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Posted: 7/18/2020 2:58:10 PM EST
[#1]
Was that Rays’s other dog impression? You guys need to knock it off with the negative waves.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:01:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That family in the Adirondacks? The Allens (I think). The documentary about them is pretty cool.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t_AfrZT3_UQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't think this is a WV thing. It's all over the place. When I was a kid, some Cornell students did a genetic study in my area of 2 large families that had been marrying eachother for generations. The same results as sister fucking, just a little slower to become obvious.  That family in the Adirondacks? The Allens (I think). The documentary about them is pretty cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t_AfrZT3_UAllentown in the Town of Day. It hasn’t changed. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:03:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly don’t remember. We had a lot of both Dari and Pastun in our area so our terps spoke both. We brought two on that operation and both said it was extremely difficult to talk with them. Those guys were both smart. You kind of have to be to know three languages fluently and run the local politics of working for Americans. Best guess is a bastardized dialect of Dari along with the accompanying problems of intelligence and speech impediments. The village elder had a trapdoor rifle. That was about the most advanced piece of technology there and I didn’t see the normal Tonda motorbikes and hilux you normally see. Not even a bicycle. It was weird. They would always come stare us for a bit and leave but EVERYONE came out in this village. We had a similar situation on our deployment. We set up an OP on a mountain overlooking some small village. When the ANA and SF guys came back from a patrol, the interpreter said he could barely understand the locals. He also said they thought the lived in Pakistan, not Afghanistan. Now idk if I believe that part, but it would make since considering we were in a pretty remote area and rather close to the border. All in all they were pretty receptive of us, never caused us any issues and the kids loved watching our birds fly around. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:04:15 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm surprised he was able to film. Lots of places where you can disappear in the areas these people tend to live. Yep, same around here. I them "one rounder" places. If you have to stop and defend yourself, always leave one round for yourself.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:04:53 PM EST
[#5]
An incidentally it's likely that these people didn't mean to inbreed and probably didn't think they were.
What you probably had was a very small number of founder families, maybe only two or three, moving into these areas that were isolated because of terrain and distance. There was probably a single influx of white settlers, and then no new people showed up. After a number of generations, everyone is effectively everyone else's first cousin. After a while more, even the first cousins are no more genetically distant than brother and sister. They keep marrying and having children and even though the children are marrying people from "other families" with different last names, they aren't. Everyone is closely related to point of genetically being virtual siblings. And the recessive pathological genes just keep building and building up till almost everyone is carrying them. Almost every breeding produces offspring with significant abnormalities. By now the population is so cognitively compromised you might see actual sibling matings. But it didn't start off that way. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:08:45 PM EST
[#6]
A whole lot of white privilege in that video
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:10:30 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An incidentally it's likely that these people didn't mean to inbreed and probably didn't think they were. What you probably had was a very small number of founder families, maybe only two or three, moving into these areas that were isolated because of terrain and distance. There was probably a single influx of white settlers, and then no new people showed up. After a number of generations, everyone is effectively everyone else's first cousin. After a while more, even the first cousins are no more genetically distant than brother and sister. They keep marrying and having children and even though the children are marrying people from "other families" with different last names, they aren't. Everyone is closely related to point of genetically being virtual siblings. And the recessive pathological genes just keep building and building up till almost everyone is carrying them. Almost every breeding produces offspring with significant abnormalities. By now the population is so cognitively compromised you might see actual sibling matings. But it didn't start off that way. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:10:53 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An incidentally it's likely that these people didn't mean to inbreed and probably didn't think they were. What you probably had was a very small number of founder families, maybe only two or three, moving into these areas that were isolated because of terrain and distance. There was probably a single influx of white settlers, and then no new people showed up. After a number of generations, everyone is effectively everyone else's first cousin. After a while more, even the first cousins are no more genetically distant than brother and sister. They keep marrying and having children and even though the children are marrying people from "other families" with different last names, they aren't. Everyone is closely related to point of genetically being virtual siblings. And the recessive pathological genes just keep building and building up till almost everyone is carrying them. Almost every breeding produces offspring with significant abnormalities. By now the population is so cognitively compromised you might see actual sibling matings. But it didn't start off that way. With that in mind I wonder how easy it would be for a virus or 'bug' to decimate an entire group of relatives? Or are their immune systems so robust due to the obviously poor living conditions that almost nothing makes them sick? |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:17:38 PM EST
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Quoted: not them, and in CNY, not the North Country...though they may have been part of the same study. I think this stuff happens more then people realize. I met a family in a town called North Western. NY. Yeah.....theyre everywherr |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:17:57 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With that in mind I wonder how easy it would be for a virus or 'bug' to decimate an entire group of relatives? Or are their immune systems so robust due to the obviously poor living conditions that almost nothing makes them sick? When genetic diversity is that low in a population you certainly have the risk of the right pathogen showing up that everyone is susceptible to. This is a problem with Canvandish Bananas which reproduce asexually by cuttings and are therefore all clones of a single plant. They are highly susceptible to Panama Disease and there is a constant danger that the entire commercial banana crop will be eradicated because of it. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:21:55 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This reminds me of a certain episode of “The X Files” Family comes first. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:22:43 PM EST
[#12]
That was messed up. Reminded me of that X-Files episode.That was the only episode they ever did that didn’t involve the paranormal. It was scary enough without it.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:23:33 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol Bethel? All I see in bethel is $350k homes Well There is paradise valley off of 61.... Eta A friend that goes north often warned me off of some back woods Maine and Vermont’s North East Kingdom Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I guess you’ve never been to Flint Michigan! Or Bethel CT Or NYS. Up by Canton or Malone. Shits all over. And it aint just the sticks. There was a story outta NYC not too long ago Lol Bethel? All I see in bethel is $350k homes Well There is paradise valley off of 61.... Eta A friend that goes north often warned me off of some back woods Maine and Vermont’s North East Kingdom I used to work with the dad. Coming from another coworker it went back quite a few gens in that family. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.courant.com/community/bethel/hc-xpm-2012-12-05-hc-ap-bethel-incest-20121205-story,amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwi9lv6s0NfqAhWnhOAKHfGUAkgQFjABegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1f64i_Unv7G5GHea-3J7oT&cf=1 Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I guess you’ve never been to Flint Michigan! Or Bethel CT Or NYS. Up by Canton or Malone. Shits all over. And it aint just the sticks. There was a story outta NYC not too long ago Not in Canton, closer to Messina——->Brasher, Hopkinton, Winthrop. Star Lake had a few doozies too. I knew a family in Canton and surrounding area. 2 last names in 90% of the family tree. And they weren't everyday names I came across familys in France. Just sayin. It aint just the south. Hell, my father's brother married a lady that has a uncle daddy. And they're in England. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:23:53 PM EST
[#14]
Your white privilege sickitates me, so I will pass on this documentary.
I am not watching that shit and ruining my weekend. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:26:47 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When genetic diversity is that low in a population you certainly have the risk of the right pathogen showing up that everyone is susceptible to. This is a problem with Canvandish Bananas which reproduce asexually by cuttings and are therefore all clones of a single plant. They are highly susceptible to Panama Disease and there is a constant danger that the entire commercial banana crop will be eradicated because of it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: With that in mind I wonder how easy it would be for a virus or 'bug' to decimate an entire group of relatives? Or are their immune systems so robust due to the obviously poor living conditions that almost nothing makes them sick? When genetic diversity is that low in a population you certainly have the risk of the right pathogen showing up that everyone is susceptible to. This is a problem with Canvandish Bananas which reproduce asexually by cuttings and are therefore all clones of a single plant. They are highly susceptible to Panama Disease and there is a constant danger that the entire commercial banana crop will be eradicated because of it. Down with the Cavendish, up with the Blue Java. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:26:58 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your white privilege sickitates me, so I will pass on this documentary. I am not watching that shit and ruining my weekend. I couldn't watch it. I felt bad for the poor souls being interviewed and it felt too much like exploitation. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:27:39 PM EST
[#17]
LoL, Arkansas Man says, hold my beer and watch this.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:29:58 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw a documentary on that. Two of the brothers never spoke and had the same first name. Larry, Darryl and Darryl. 
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Posted: 7/18/2020 3:47:48 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The peacocks |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:05:57 PM EST
[#20]
Definitely bizarre. Seemingly not that uncommon across little pockets of the US.
I won’t judge. They seem content. Appear to be bothering no one. No idea if they’re on any type of government assistance. If they are, they’re certainly not milking the system. It is sad. Especially wonder what their lives will be like when the patriarch of the family passes. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:08:00 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, came to post this. I have yet to go to a town in WV where this is NOT the normal way of life. You guys do not want to live here.... I hear Florida is welcoming to all and there is not a drop of crazy down there.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is the normal way of life in WV. It is a horrifying, depressing place. Don't ever come here. Yep, came to post this. I have yet to go to a town in WV where this is NOT the normal way of life. You guys do not want to live here.... I hear Florida is welcoming to all and there is not a drop of crazy down there.... Easy there killers.  No one mentioned wanting to move to WV for you two to get all riled up and try to discourage people from moving there and ruining your precious state. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:20:44 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We have pockets of this where we live, out in the sticks. There is even a local name for them. "Flounder Heads" (Flounders have both eyes on one side of their head). There is one family in particular we used to have to deal with a lot, last name "Bang". Lots of inbreeding and kids given names were "Squirrel", "Rabbit" "Deer" "Duck" and other names of animals. They made their living through larceny, mostly boat motors and stuff, and really were so dumb you couldn't even make them understand that what they were doing was wrong. I interviewed a brother and sister once, 15 and 16, who were from a family like that, and who were having sex with each other, with a social worker. They didn't see anything wrong with it, and it was pretty obvious that nothing we said to them was going to change their minds. Another family, we locked the father up for having sex with his underage daughters. We found out that one of them went to the prison and had a conjugal visit with him by pretending to be the wife. I've seen as bad as that video, plenty of times. My wife's friend is from Hattiesburg. She said they called them people "9 hairs", I guess they have really thin hair or something. There's a really rural county adjacent to mine, it has some really remote places considering it's in Central Texas. There are some stories about those areas. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:21:51 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Easy there killers. No one mentioned wanting to move to WV for you two to get all riled up and try to discourage people from moving there and ruining your precious state. Riled up?  I think most people understood we were joking. Or not..... 
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:23:49 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We have pockets of this where we live, out in the sticks. There is even a local name for them. "Flounder Heads" (Flounders have both eyes on one side of their head). There is one family in particular we used to have to deal with a lot, last name "Bang". Lots of inbreeding and kids given names were "Squirrel", "Rabbit" "Deer" "Duck" and other names of animals. They made their living through larceny, mostly boat motors and stuff, and really were so dumb you couldn't even make them understand that what they were doing was wrong. I interviewed a brother and sister once, 15 and 16, who were from a family like that, and who were having sex with each other, with a social worker. They didn't see anything wrong with it, and it was pretty obvious that nothing we said to them was going to change their minds. Another family, we locked the father up for having sex with his underage daughters. We found out that one of them went to the prison and had a conjugal visit with him by pretending to be the wife. I've seen as bad as that video, plenty of times. Sounds similar to a what a buddy that was a parole/probation officer had to deal with. Brother and Sister in their 30's both a probation. They were also a couple. Both lived with their father who also saw nothing wrong with his kids screwing each other. I'd bet this kind of thing is more common than most people are willing to admit, mostly in the poor areas. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:34:34 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For most people 'tell me about your memories' is a good way to get non-communicative people to talk, and it's an easy question. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Depressing. I wanted to strangle the film maker. Quit asking people who bark complex questions. The others were completely non-communicative, but that didn't stop dumb ass from asking more questions. For most people 'tell me about your memories' is a good way to get non-communicative people to talk, and it's an easy question. Really? A question that evokes memories will make a guy who barks suddenly articulate his feelings? |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:44:07 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every once in a while we'd run into a bunch of backwoods country fucks like that while dirt biking in Kentucky. One time there was a bunch of them hanging around a gas station out in the middle of nowhere. We gassed up and got the hell out of there as quickly as we could. You had a purty mouth.  |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:50:29 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This reminds me of a certain episode of "The X Files" Seeing it once was more than enough |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:02:20 PM EST
[#28]
I remember reading a similar thread like this on arfcom a couple of years ago. I remember one poster talking about the shovel head people of west virginia.
 Here is the link: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Inbreeding_in_America__Whole_towns_full_of_inbreds_/5-1860401/&page=6 |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:05:31 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An incidentally it's likely that these people didn't mean to inbreed and probably didn't think they were. What you probably had was a very small number of founder families, maybe only two or three, moving into these areas that were isolated because of terrain and distance. There was probably a single influx of white settlers, and then no new people showed up. After a number of generations, everyone is effectively everyone else's first cousin. After a while more, even the first cousins are no more genetically distant than brother and sister. They keep marrying and having children and even though the children are marrying people from "other families" with different last names, they aren't. Everyone is closely related to point of genetically being virtual siblings. And the recessive pathological genes just keep building and building up till almost everyone is carrying them. Almost every breeding produces offspring with significant abnormalities. By now the population is so cognitively compromised you might see actual sibling matings. But it didn't start off that way. Looky here, one of them edumacated Alabama boys trying to get in front of the story about Alabama's skinny family trees 
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:06:00 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The peacocks Watched it last night. Season four, episode two. Home. RIP Sheriff Andy. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:08:23 PM EST
[#31]
Pretty sure I have worked with a few of this family before, TimeWarner Telecom tier 2 tech support.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:08:35 PM EST
[#32]
Ex wife’s family was from WVa but big city folk (Beckley). Her cousin was an insurance adjuster and he was a good old boy but he said some of those hollers he had to go into we’re beyond scary.
In one place, they burned the State Police post. It was not rebuilt. Beautiful country. I miss our trips down there. TC |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:19:20 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Depressing. I wanted to strangle the film maker. Quit asking people who bark complex questions. The others were completely non-communicative, but that didn't stop dumb ass from asking more questions. This. I quit watching because of that. Just leave them alone. That’s the problem with Lberals, they think people need them in their lives. Those people are living their lives the only way they know and they aren’t interested in changing. Fuck arrogant libs who aren’t satisfied until everyone thinks, acts and looks exactly as they do. TC |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:22:59 PM EST
[#34]
This one they all talk about what hard workers they are. Though ALL of them are on government assistance and pills lol
 American Hollow (1999) [Full Movie] |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:23:17 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: After that I am now ok with being called a "damned yankee". Jfc you southerners are fucked..... Proud southerners too. On the 24hourcampfire.com there are guys there that think being as fucked as they are is still better than being black. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:25:37 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When genetic diversity is that low in a population you certainly have the risk of the right pathogen showing up that everyone is susceptible to. This is a problem with Canvandish Bananas which reproduce asexually by cuttings and are therefore all clones of a single plant. They are highly susceptible to Panama Disease and there is a constant danger that the entire commercial banana crop will be eradicated because of it. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:26:37 PM EST
[#37]
Its worse than that, the liberal doing the photos and film is doing it to show the other “elites” that they’re right about how bad flyover country is and how much they’re needed to be paternalistic to them.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:27:12 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder why no one ever makes shows about black families like that. I ran EMS in Southside VA. I’ve seen evidence of incest. It’s part of their culture too. So many of them don’t know who their real fathers are it sometimes is accidental. Poor people do crazy shit. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:28:34 PM EST
[#39]
Damn, no way in hell I would step foot or sit down in that place.
Heard tale of a few families like that but have never seen any myself. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:30:28 PM EST
[#40]
I had a Drill Sgt in Benning that could pick out folks from WV solely bases on their size of their heads lol. He got 4 out of 5 right lol
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:35:11 PM EST
[#41]
After reading through this thread, I'm not going to watch the "documentary." Even a Habsburg jaw makes me a bit queasy.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:44:56 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looky here, one of them edumacated Alabama boys trying to get in front of the story about Alabama's skinny family trees Says the guy from GA.......  You know where deliverance was filmed, dontcha? |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:51:03 PM EST
[#43]
I when down the rabbit hole on his other videos. The Warden/Executioner interview was moving. His accent is misleading, not being a southern boy I legitimately have a bias against the slow southern drawl as, not intelligent to tell the truth. To hear the warden tell his story was about the 18 people he executed was enthralling. He was a man that respected the men he executed but also respected the process.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:55:04 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This one they all talk about what hard workers they are. Though ALL of them are on government assistance and pills lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDAFy3ASNOoIs that the one with the kids who were supposed to get married at like 16, and the girl got smart and backed out? |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:55:07 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LoL, Arkansas Man says, hold my beer and watch this. LOL, a royal blue blood says "hold my cognac, and observe this!" |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 6:00:55 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the normal way of life in WV. It is a horrifying, depressing place. Don't ever come here. Both my parents grew up in the northern panhandle and at least when they were there most of the stories about ‘creepy hill people’ were about those in tiny, tiny communities in the the hills across the river in Ohio. There were a few rumours about some strange people out in the far reaches of Marshall, Wetzel and Tyler Counties, but they never saw anything. My late grandfather knew well of a few people who weren’t quite so inbred, because they ventured out of the hills to his dental practise in town (usually to insist that he just go ahead and ‘pull’ their teeth), but sure had a lot of stories about strange patients and their families. My parents’ town was about 7-10,000 people and back then at least was a really nice place to grow up, live and work. Loss of industries pretty much ended most of that. Poor Viking Glass Company. 
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Posted: 7/18/2020 6:11:32 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cruel, but hilarious. With Ray barking, my two shelties wouldn't shut up while I was trying to watch that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If Timmy fell in a well I wonder if ray could alert and lead the rescue team. Cruel, but hilarious. With Ray barking, my two shelties wouldn't shut up while I was trying to watch that. Ray was the smartest one out of the bunch. He understood and knew how to communicate. He just couldn't speak. He was the only one that expressed emotion for dead brother. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 6:34:50 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Family comes first. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This reminds me of a certain episode of “The X Files” Family comes first. Would that be the episode with the woman under the bed on the mechanic's dolly? Cause that was my first thought. 
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Posted: 7/18/2020 6:59:13 PM EST
[#49]
Ray is your typical Yankees fan.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 7:00:54 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LoL, Arkansas Man says, hold my beer and watch this. Arkansas Man ain't got shit compaired to my homie from Okie 
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