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Posted: 10/28/2019 10:51:27 AM EDT
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It's not pedo because she's 15, but it is creepy as fuck. ETA see this was all addressed later. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 10:54:10 AM EDT
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Sounds like a Naked_Gunman move
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Posted: 10/28/2019 10:55:03 AM EDT
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Yeah right tell it to the judge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not pedo because she's 15, but it is creepy as fuck. ETA see this was all addressed later. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 10:57:37 AM EDT
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I don't know of any grown adult men who should be "friends" on instagram with underage girls unless family or maaaaaybeeee sports related (coach, mentor etc) but that's kind of a stretch. Lock that down asap. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:01:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:04:42 AM EDT
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100% Agreed Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:04:44 AM EDT
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I tend to shy away from underage girls. About 13 years ago my step daughter's friend was working at the grocery store up the street from my house and as I went through her line she was begging me for a ride on my Honda Hurricane 1000F. I've known this girl for years and my step daughter has spent the night at her friend's house many times. Now, I know she and my step daughter are the same age so she was only 17 at the time. I asked her how old she was just to hear her lie and she told me that she was 18. I told her that I knew that she was in fact 17 and told her I knew her birthday. No way, no how was I going to take that girl for a ride. I did tell her that I would give her a ride when she turned 18 but I sold the bike before her birthday. There is zero chance that I'm going to allow myself to even be alone with an underage girl, there's too much of a chance that it would be misconstrued.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:11:37 AM EDT
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Definite creep.
Contact law enforcement and get him on their radar. Unfortunately you can't count on the church to do what needs to be done, because they might not want to "ruin his reputation" until there is definitive proof that he already has physically victimized someone. The local pedo task force is in a unique position to do something about this, and they may be able to take care of him before some girl becomes a victim. Will you be able to forgive yourself if you knew and could have done something about this, and didn't, and later got to read about it in the news? |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:11:58 AM EDT
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Well the church is certainly the go-to for anything pedophile related, the track record is impeccable.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:14:37 AM EDT
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Well the church is certainly the go-to for anything pedophile related, the track record is impeccable. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:27:41 AM EDT
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Inappropriate yes. Pedo no. She's 15. BTW, what does the grinning pear image mean? |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:29:20 AM EDT
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Yeah that wrong. Shut that shit down now
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:32:25 AM EDT
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Tell the girl to document and screenshot everything. Dude is a creep and is seeing how receptive she is to him. It's harmless now but all it takes is someone to get friendly and it will escalate. Quickly. It's time for some LEO to at least be made aware of.
Wife was molested by her uncle when she was twelve. He knew exactly what he was doing and did everything so when he got caught there wasn't anything the police could do legally, since he didn't break any of the laws according to the book. From my personal experience of delving into this subject, he's testing the waters. Not sure what the age of consent is but I'd wager he is trying to pass it off as being supportive of the youth in the area while attempting to influence her into sex once she's legal. If he gets caught doing that, by law, he has done nothing wrong. While saying the kid was a harlot and charlatan and was sent as a test of God and he failed. He will use it as a teachable moment that the devil can come in many forms or some shit. If he succeeds here there will be more and will start getting younger too. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:32:39 AM EDT
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I'd probably make a stink. I mean I would try to get the body taken care of before it started to decompose but you dont have long. So even with my best intentions, I'd probably end up making a stink.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:35:29 AM EDT
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Can the kid block the old man and / or stop posting too? I would share that with the cops and let them talk to old man. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:47:11 AM EDT
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Police have nothing to talk to him about. Being creepy isn't against the law unfortunately. There’s some weird mother fuckers out there, stay frosty. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:02:52 PM EDT
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Police have nothing to talk to him about. Being creepy isn't against the law unfortunately. Not every place, but some places will dig a bit. Ya never know who turns out to have a record they are hiding - hell, he might be violating the terms of some parole agreement... |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:06:13 PM EDT
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Is a Yankee Nickel different from a Southern Nickel?  |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:08:11 PM EDT
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Hand out full sized candy bars on halloween, apparently
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:09:32 PM EDT
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Yankee nickle is worth $0.05, while a Southern Nickel has been worthless since 1865... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is a Yankee Nickel different from a Southern Nickel?
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:11:10 PM EDT
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Wtf is "pedo grooming"?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Wtf is "pedo grooming"?? Child grooming is befriending and establishing an emotional connection with a child, and sometimes the family, to lower the child's inhibitions with the objective of sexual abuse.[1][2] Child grooming is also regularly used to lure minors into various illicit businesses such as child trafficking, child prostitution, or the production of child pornography. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda weird that the parents are looking to you to handle, who the hell are you to them? You should back out of the situation and tell the father of the girl to grow some nuts and handle it himself. That is if this even happened. There’s some strange mofo’s that have posted here over the years that just make up stories and bait people into long drawn out threads to discuss their own creepy fetishes, the guy that baited everyone to discuss spanking kids comes to mind. Someone looked at his posting history and literally every thread he posted was about spanking kids. 
Not saying this is you OP but I’m ALWAYS skeptical about these kinds of threads. It is true, but I’m just a voice on the internet, so take as many grains of salt as you like. It doesn’t offend me. Let me clarify one thing. I haven’t been asked to handle it. The girl first mentioned this contact to my wife. But we know the family and the dynamic. I just know what’s going on and know girl has no father and the mother is into escapism of the alcoholic variety. As I said, I’ve spoken to a LE contact about it and it isn’t likely criminal yet. But it looks like mom kinda has to step up to get that “warning” ball rolling. My concern at this point is that I don’t know if I can legally disclose private communications to 3rd parties since the consent to do so came from the 15 year old and not explicitly the mom. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:14:01 PM EDT
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Sounds like a Naked_Gunman move I have come across assholes like that a few times in my life. They use religion to serve as the opportunity to engage with underaged girls. They need the shit beat out of them at minimum. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:14:41 PM EDT
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I immediately suspected he would be involved in a church when I read the OP. Fucking pedos use it like camouflage.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:15:42 PM EDT
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Five pages arguing about definitions lol.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:17:58 PM EDT
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I am the father of 2 very pretty girls aged 15 and 17. If a kid's dad sends my daughters messages like that we are having a talk.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:22:59 PM EDT
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Social media has changed the dynamics of how folks interact.
An adult male should refrain from making such comments because it can look bad even if no actual "bad thoughts" are in play. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:28:05 PM EDT
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The guys' a creep. Not a pedo. But he's a creep. He's a weirdo. What the Hell's he doing there? He don't belong there.
Around these parts I know a lot of young girls who wind up in the human trafficking biz thanks to creeps like him. They're teenagers with daddy issues and suddenly some creep with money and some kind of sick father figure vibe going on who are desperate enough to fall for about anything. It's big money. And the creeps get to play with the girls for a while first before turning them out. I have a special kind of hatred for these people and some day I'll gladly be part of the door kicking party once the State of Ohio gets it's head out of it's ass. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:28:58 PM EDT
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If creeper holds any leadership position in the church involving youth, your church leaders should know what you know, which is what the girl's parents told you.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:29:31 PM EDT
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That's just flat out wrong. Shut that guy down quickly!
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:34:46 PM EDT
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Sounds very similar to what my HS GF experienced from a married guy in our church.
She was friends with the daughter, eventually she stopped hanging out with her and sleeping over because the dad was really creepy; made comments about her appearance (esp in night gowns), always seemed to be walking by the bedroom lingering at the door, saying she should date his son, offering her roses wherever. Luckily she was always super hard headed and willing to stand up for herself and had a very well ruined creep meter. Mind you, I didn't know about this when we were dating, only when she told me in her late twenties after they ran into each other at the store and he was displaying the same behavior. Oh yeah, this same guy was later found out to have had raped a teenager from our church in the late 90s after grooming her the same way while she was baby sitting their kids. Huge scandal for our church when it came out 2011. Take it up with the church immediately, if you don't trust the church to take care of it then talk to an LE professional. This is exactly how creeps take advantage of the church. Hopefully this is the first time he's behaved like this, otherwise might be time for a new church |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:37:58 PM EDT
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The moment he made the first comment on her IG account, it was creepy.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:38:22 PM EDT
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You have no self control?
Don't solicit 15 year old girls and you won't have any problems. Don't become a raging alcoholic and you won't have any problems... I have Instagram, I drink alcohol, I don't have these problems. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Social Media often causes "problems." This is the reason I avoid it like the plague. Alcohol often causes "problems." I avoid it like a plague. Recreational drugs often cause "problems." I avoid them like a plague. Do you see a pattern developing here? Someone needs to have a talk with this "church leader" and point out to him how his actions "look." If this is an ongoing problem there should be some "stronger" action taken. I think this would go a long way in taking care of the problem. I think I read where the young lady had lost her father. This makes her more vulnerable and perhaps the "church leader" is trying to fill that void. He may not be socially astute enough to realize how creepy he is coming off. Hence my suggestion to let him know he is not the only one aware of the girls situation. If it was an innocent mistake on his part, he can correct it. If he really is a "creeper," I'm sure that will be taken care of quickly with little collateral damage to the girl. I am high school staff and I handle a lot of discipline problems related to "social media." I would also point out that it can also be inappropriate for a teen aged girl to communicate with an adult male(or female for that matter.) depending on the content of that communication. For this reason I do not engage in social media contacts with any of my students, even the ones related to me. I avoid any appearance of impropriety. When I find myself in a room alone with a student, I open the door and prop it open. I care for my students and often comment to them but I choose my words carefully.
Don't solicit 15 year old girls and you won't have any problems. Don't become a raging alcoholic and you won't have any problems... I have Instagram, I drink alcohol, I don't have these problems. 
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:40:31 PM EDT
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Get giant print outs of these messages and display them in his church.
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:50:03 PM EDT
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No time to read all the pages in this thread, but I'll offer this, based on a similar situation I had to handle.
I'd just message him or talk to him and in a non-accusing way say, "Dude, that looks bad. You gotta admit. Just check yourself and leave the girl alone, she already has good guys in her life." No way to know his intentions at this point. But knowing that his actions are known and under scrutiny should give him pause. If it doesn't, only then would I involve church leadership. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 12:55:01 PM EDT
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Well there you have it. Pervy church dude, ya don't say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ha. Seriously. He's in leadership at a local church. Girl's family confided in wife and me. It sets off alarm bells for me and my wife. I'm considering taking it to his church leadership. Pervy church dude, ya don't say. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda weird that the parents are looking to you to handle, who the hell are you to them? You should back out of the situation and tell the father of the girl to grow some nuts and handle it himself. That is if this even happened. There's some strange mofo's that have posted here over the years that just make up stories and bait people into long drawn out threads to discuss their own creepy fetishes, the guy that baited everyone to discuss spanking kids comes to mind. Someone looked at his posting history and literally every thread he posted was about spanking kids.
Not saying this is you OP but I'm ALWAYS skeptical about these kinds of threads. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:03:51 PM EDT
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It's definitely time to get folks involved.
I would either have a not so private conversation with him with a majority of involved parties present. Or have a discussion with other church leadership first. Keep things cordial but make it clear a line has been crossed. If he was accidentally creepy he'll get the message. If on purpose he'll move on to someone else at the very least. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:07:47 PM EDT
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Ha. Seriously. He’s in leadership at a local church. Girl’s family confided in wife and me. It sets off alarm bells for me and my wife. I’m considering taking it to his church leadership. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds creepy. You should stop sending her messages  Seriously. He’s in leadership at a local church. Girl’s family confided in wife and me. It sets off alarm bells for me and my wife. I’m considering taking it to his church leadership. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:08:25 PM EDT
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Wtf is "pedo grooming"?? Child grooming is befriending and establishing an emotional connection with a child, and sometimes the family, to lower the child's inhibitions with the objective of sexual abuse.[1][2] Child grooming is also regularly used to lure minors into various illicit businesses such as child trafficking, child prostitution, or the production of child pornography. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:10:05 PM EDT
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Could this be the first time in GD history that we are all 100% in agreement that the guy is creepy and needs an intervention (or more)? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:12:32 PM EDT
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as someone that has worked as a volunteer in a church for the last 35 years I would be going to the pastor and board of elders right now. No church that I have ever worked for would allow this kind of shenanigans. matter of fact we have a 2 person minuimn when talking to member of the opposite sex and every office and room is monitored with security cameras The person in charge of the PE program sets off my pedo meter but has not done anything wrong. I just get a vibe from him. It is an odd position for a 30 something male. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:15:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha. Seriously. He’s in leadership at a local church. Girl’s family confided in wife and me. It sets off alarm bells for me and my wife. I’m considering taking it to his church leadership. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:15:06 PM EDT
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No time to read all the pages in this thread, but I'll offer this, based on a similar situation I had to handle. I'd just message him or talk to him and in a non-accusing way say, "Dude, that looks bad. You gotta admit. Just check yourself and leave the girl alone, she already has good guys in her life." No way to know his intentions at this point. But knowing that his actions are known and under scrutiny should give him pause. If it doesn't, only then would I involve church leadership. I think that would just push the guy more under cover, and the girl (and others likely) would continue to be at risk. This needs to be called out loudly, and publicly. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:16:44 PM EDT
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I'm kinda here too. Why is this girl from church showing the OP and his wife these messages instead of her mom or close friends? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Kinda weird that the parents are looking to you to handle, who the hell are you to them? You should back out of the situation and tell the father of the girl to grow some nuts and handle it himself. That is if this even happened. There's some strange mofo's that have posted here over the years that just make up stories and bait people into long drawn out threads to discuss their own creepy fetishes, the guy that baited everyone to discuss spanking kids comes to mind. Someone looked at his posting history and literally every thread he posted was about spanking kids.
Not saying this is you OP but I'm ALWAYS skeptical about these kinds of threads. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:21:04 PM EDT
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Poster's avatar and the image he posted. lol. Likes critters with lots of teeth. BTW, what does the grinning pear image mean? |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:22:26 PM EDT
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Please do. That's completely inappropriate and honestly if he's in church leadership I think that's also a problem with this kind of behavior. That said to answer your question technically no it is not pedo grooming because at 15 she is developed and pedophilia has specific definitions Still creepy and inapproriate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ha. Seriously. He’s in leadership at a local church. Girl’s family confided in wife and me. It sets off alarm bells for me and my wife. I’m considering taking it to his church leadership. That said to answer your question technically no it is not pedo grooming because at 15 she is developed and pedophilia has specific definitions Still creepy and inapproriate. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:27:28 PM EDT
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Well, I didn’t read pages 2-4 so maybe it’s already been said, but addressing it to him or the church may not be the best option. It may put an end to this specific situation, but if he is a creeper he’s likely to just do it to someone else. If you believe it is that inappropriate, and your local law enforcement (or even county sheriff) has some Internet crime unit, put it to them to have an officer pose as the girl and see if he pushes further, or put a different bait out there and see if he goes for it.
It’s creepy as is. I’d want to know if he’s just inappropriate or if he has other urges. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:40:41 PM EDT
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I've dealt with this before. I had some guy sending FB messages to my 15 or 16 year old step-daughter and wouldn't stop even though she never responded. She showed me the messages.
A message from me cleared that shit right up. Tell the girl's Dad to tell that fucker to never contact her again. Go to his church? Fuck that. Go to him. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 1:41:49 PM EDT
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I think it crashes through “The appearance of impropriety” and is well into the grooming stage as you put it. She’s aware of it though so it's not going anywhere. I sometimes give a ride to my neighbor’s 15 y/o daughter to school who I pick up along with bringing my own kids. I have one of my kids sit up front and she sits in back with the others. My kids need to be there earlier but I drop her off first. I will ask a generic “how’s school going” just to acknowledge she’s there, but otherwise there is no reason for me to talk to her. |
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