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Link Posted: 1/24/2020 10:02:03 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/24/2020 10:05:03 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/24/2020 10:20:38 PM EST
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I've seen videos of rural/back country Chinese justice. That guy better be able to run fast.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 10:22:02 PM EST
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6 months huh?
Yeah...uhmmm...about that lead time....might need something a little closer to say...6 days.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 10:33:18 PM EST
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DFW fox affiliate reporting a student at A&M who just returned from China apparently has it now.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 10:39:59 PM EST
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I don't think it's likely to be as big a deal as people fear, but at the same time - it is all the fuck over several US cities already.    Media and public health orgs are way behind the curve.

It's pretty obvious that this was kicking around prior to any widespread efforts at testing for it.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 10:49:11 PM EST
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41 out of 1125  is higher then 2% deaths.
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41 out of 1125  is higher then 2% deaths.
its actually 3.649%
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 10:52:11 PM EST
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Was the report to confirm that the student has nCoV-2019 or was it is it just suspected?

ETA the results for the TACU student will be available Monday.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 11:17:56 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/24/2020 11:22:53 PM EST
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its actually 3.649%
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41 out of 1125  is higher then 2% deaths.
its actually 3.649%
But that is still comparing unresolved cases.

All we can measure right now is a very small sampling of people who died vs people who beat it. That mortality figure, at least for the moment, is extremely high.

Weighing deaths vs people who currently have it is meaningless info, because some of those 1125 1300 will die. How many is the question.
Link Posted: 1/24/2020 11:23:12 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/24/2020 11:50:44 PM EST
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I'm not going to worry until this isn't a thing anymore.  There's still a whole hell of alot of air traffic going on in China. When you see dead airspace, then you know it's the real deal.

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Good point.  What's the link for the live air traffic volume?
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:04:13 AM EST
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How many Chinese fans go to the superbowl?
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:07:53 AM EST
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When will this be blamed on Trump for sanctions on China?
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:10:41 AM EST
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Thousands upon thousands upon thousands infected and 41 deaths.

Oh no. Pandemic. Plague. We're all going to die.

Get back to me when it becomes more deadly than a paper cut.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:12:30 AM EST
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Good point.  What's the link for the live air traffic volume?
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I'm not going to worry until this isn't a thing anymore.  There's still a whole hell of alot of air traffic going on in China. When you see dead airspace, then you know it's the real deal.

https://i.imgur.com/06t2Q6T.jpg
Good point.  What's the link for the live air traffic volume?
This will get you started. Flightradar24: Live Flight Tracker
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:16:11 AM EST
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Thousands upon thousands upon thousands infected and 41 deaths.

Oh no. Pandemic. Plague. We're all going to die.

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What you’re failing to factor in is how many have gotten better.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:19:17 AM EST
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Harvard School of Public Health guy speaking here . . .
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:20:25 AM EST
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Thousands upon thousands upon thousands infected and 41 deaths.

Oh no. Pandemic. Plague. We're all going to die.

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Seriously do you think China prompted this response for a “paper cut?”
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:20:50 AM EST
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Hopefully it will burn itself out faster then.  It's sad how many people are going to die.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:21:39 AM EST
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Thousands upon thousands upon thousands infected and 41 deaths.

Oh no. Pandemic. Plague. We're all going to die.

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@olds442tyguy - Your post is confusing.

Either you believe the Chinese numbers, in which case there have been only around 1200 infected, 41 dead, and 38 recovered.... or you believed there have been, as you said, "Thousands upon thousands upon thousands infected". If you believed the published number of infected patients is off by orders of magnitude, what leads you to believe that the death toll is accurate?
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:22:44 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:24:02 AM EST
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So 100 people are going to die?
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:24:08 AM EST
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He is being sarcastic on multiple fronts... the guy should know that highly contextualized sarcasm carries extremely poorly in a tweet. It makes him more of a Twit.

We use R0 as one of many values for epidemiological modeling purposes. GleamViz engine with an appropriate model accurately modeled the H1N1 outbreak. R0 is greatly useful for calculating vaccination needs to have community immunity (herd immunity).

R0 is an elusive value though...
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:29:01 AM EST
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Thousands upon thousands upon thousands infected and 41 deaths.

Oh no. Pandemic. Plague. We're all going to die.

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Getting back to you. It appears to be worse than a paper cut.
China has locked down close to 40 million people over the coronavirus.
I don't think they believe it's less than a papercut.

Maybe you can help us with this and explain to them why people are not actually dying and continue to be infected?
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:29:32 AM EST
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He is being sarcastic on multiple fronts... the guy should know that highly contextualized sarcasm carries extremely poorly in a tweet. It makes him more of a Twit.

We use R0 as one of many values for epidemiological modeling purposes. GleamViz engine with an appropriate model accurately modeled the H1N1 outbreak. R0 is greatly useful for calculating vaccination needs to have community immunity (herd immunity).

R0 is an elusive value though...
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Ok - so this means jack shit?
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:30:47 AM EST
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He is being sarcastic on multiple fronts... the guy should know that highly contextualized sarcasm carries extremely poorly in a tweet. It makes him more of a Twit.

We use R0 as one of many values for epidemiological modeling purposes. GleamViz engine with an appropriate model accurately modeled the H1N1 outbreak. R0 is greatly useful for calculating vaccination needs to have community immunity (herd immunity).

R0 is an elusive value though...
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He is being sarcastic on multiple fronts... the guy should know that highly contextualized sarcasm carries extremely poorly in a tweet. It makes him more of a Twit.

We use R0 as one of many values for epidemiological modeling purposes. GleamViz engine with an appropriate model accurately modeled the H1N1 outbreak. R0 is greatly useful for calculating vaccination needs to have community immunity (herd immunity).

R0 is an elusive value though...
Probably not a real good idea for someone in his position to be sarcastic right now concerning this.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:35:54 AM EST
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Probably not a real good idea for someone in his position to be sarcastic right now concerning this.
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Probably not, but I inagine that every single career field has that oft-expressed concern that eventually earns a sarcastic reply. Doctors, mechanics, weathermen, etc.

Unfortunately the written word is a poor medium for imparting sarcasm.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:36:09 AM EST
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Disgusting, I hate raw slice tomatoes.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:36:10 AM EST
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He is being sarcastic on multiple fronts... the guy should know that highly contextualized sarcasm carries extremely poorly in a tweet. It makes him more of a Twit.

We use R0 as one of many values for epidemiological modeling purposes. GleamViz engine with an appropriate model accurately modeled the H1N1 outbreak. R0 is greatly useful for calculating vaccination needs to have community immunity (herd immunity).

R0 is an elusive value though...
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Harvard School of Public Health guy speaking here . . .
He is being sarcastic on multiple fronts... the guy should know that highly contextualized sarcasm carries extremely poorly in a tweet. It makes him more of a Twit.

We use R0 as one of many values for epidemiological modeling purposes. GleamViz engine with an appropriate model accurately modeled the H1N1 outbreak. R0 is greatly useful for calculating vaccination needs to have community immunity (herd immunity).

R0 is an elusive value though...
Did you read the whole sequence of tweets? He is being deadly serious.

Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:39:37 AM EST
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Did you read the whole sequence of tweets? He is being deadly serious.

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Harvard School of Public Health guy speaking here . . .
He is being sarcastic on multiple fronts... the guy should know that highly contextualized sarcasm carries extremely poorly in a tweet. It makes him more of a Twit.

We use R0 as one of many values for epidemiological modeling purposes. GleamViz engine with an appropriate model accurately modeled the H1N1 outbreak. R0 is greatly useful for calculating vaccination needs to have community immunity (herd immunity).

R0 is an elusive value though...
Did you read the whole sequence of tweets? He is being deadly serious.

I’m so confused now. Lol. Anybody else care to shed light on drericding’s post.  Is it true or sarcasm that us non medical folks don’t understand.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:39:53 AM EST
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Shit, we are so interconnected these days a 2%+ death rate is going to be insane.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:44:31 AM EST
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Shit, we are so interconnected these days a 2%+ death rate is going to be insane.
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Did you read the whole sequence of tweets? He is being deadly serious.

Shit, we are so interconnected these days a 2%+ death rate is going to be insane.
A 2%+ death rate on an uncontrolled pathogen is insane. That doesn't even take into account the collateral effects on society of people withdrawing and sheltering to avoid infection and the effects on the economy.
Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:45:51 AM EST
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5 day incubation period.  Quarantine new arrivals.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:46:54 AM EST
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LoL, sanctions?

They will say it was prophecy and Trump is the ANTICHRIST.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:50:36 AM EST
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I’m so confused now. Lol. Anybody else care to shed light on drericding’s post.  Is it true or sarcasm that us non medical folks don’t understand.
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Read this man's twitter profile and tell me where a drop of sarcasm exists? That concept was introduced by a poster above me who has an overactive bullshit filter. This guy is a serious epidemiologist who is seriously concerned and using his platform to alert people. Namely, to get the WHO to take this seriously and quit kissing the Chinese government's ass.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:51:28 AM EST
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Figures...

He trusts the .chinesegov  data.

Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:52:15 AM EST
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@olds442tyguy - Your post is confusing.

Either you believe the Chinese numbers, in which case there have been only around 1200 infected, 41 dead, and 38 recovered.... or you believed there have been, as you said, "Thousands upon thousands upon thousands infected". If you believed the published number of infected patients is off by orders of magnitude, what leads you to believe that the death toll is accurate?
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Cognitive challenges.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:52:36 AM EST
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Read this man's twitter profile and tell me where a drop of sarcasm exists? That concept was introduced by a poster above me who has an overactive bullshit filter. This guy is a serious epidemiologist who is seriously concerned and using his platform to alert people. Namely, to get the WHO to take this seriously and quit kissing the Chinese government's ass.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing
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On behalf of the Chinese government I kindly insist you redact your post.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:53:38 AM EST
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I didn't detect sarcasm and he is rightfully concerned.

If he had accurate data [impossible to acquire], he'd be pissing his pants.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:54:50 AM EST
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Most likely too late, for the US.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:55:34 AM EST
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So odd questions as I don't twitter but...

Do you know this man personally?
Do you know if he is really a doctor? Or pathologist?
Are you taking the post at face value because the title of his account?
Can I create a twitter account with Dr in my name?
I'm a meteorologist by trade. Can I post that global warming is gonna kill us all like 10 years ago? Or maybe in 50?

I guess most important question: Why do you believe that to be genuine?
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:56:18 AM EST
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Read this man's twitter profile and tell me where a drop of sarcasm exists? That concept was introduced by a poster above me who has an overactive bullshit filter. This guy is a serious epidemiologist who is seriously concerned and using his platform to alert people. Namely, to get the WHO to take this seriously and quit kissing the Chinese government's ass.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing
On behalf of the Chinese government I kindly insist you redact your post.
This is ARFCOM! I'm not editing anything unless Her Majesty's Royal Bobbies insist.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 12:58:13 AM EST
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So odd questions as I don't twitter but...

Do you know this man personally?
Do you know if he is really a doctor? Or pathologist?
Are you taking the post at face value because the title of his account?
Can I create a twitter account with Dr in my name?
I'm a meteorologist by trade. Can I post that global warming is gonna kill us all like 10 years ago? Or maybe in 50?

I guess most important question: Why do you believe that to be genuine?
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The context of the Dr's post correlates generally with most observations of this matter.

Suggesting he is genuine.

A little common sense needs to be applied.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 1:00:29 AM EST
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So odd questions as I don't twitter but...

Do you know this man personally?
Do you know if he is really a doctor? Or pathologist?
Are you taking the post at face value because the title of his account?
Can I create a twitter account with Dr in my name?
I'm a meteorologist by trade. Can I post that global warming is gonna kill us all like 10 years ago? Or maybe in 50?

I guess most important question: Why do you believe that to be genuine?
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There aren’t any posts in his past that I saw that do not indicate anything misleading.

His language he used and terminology are in line with what other medical professionals are using to describe potentials.

I say legit.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 1:01:24 AM EST
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So odd questions as I don't twitter but...

Do you know this man personally?
Do you know if he is really a doctor? Or pathologist?
Are you taking the post at face value because the title of his account?
Can I create a twitter account with Dr in my name?
I'm a meteorologist by trade. Can I post that global warming is gonna kill us all like 10 years ago? Or maybe in 50?

I guess most important question: Why do you believe that to be genuine?
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Did you read the whole sequence of tweets? He is being deadly serious.

So odd questions as I don't twitter but...

Do you know this man personally?
Do you know if he is really a doctor? Or pathologist?
Are you taking the post at face value because the title of his account?
Can I create a twitter account with Dr in my name?
I'm a meteorologist by trade. Can I post that global warming is gonna kill us all like 10 years ago? Or maybe in 50?

I guess most important question: Why do you believe that to be genuine?
The Harvard page states he has a doctorate in epidemiology.

So while he might still not be the highest authority on the matter, he sure as shit has more credibility than some random arfcommer.
Link Posted: 1/25/2020 1:05:32 AM EST
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The context of the Dr's post correlates generally with most observations of this matter.

Suggesting he is genuine.

A little common sense needs to be applied.
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Ok, fair enough. Speaking in line of common sense, is this doctor of a similar vein that said Bird/Pig/whatever flu was going to kill everybody? There was much made of such claims when those were the hotness a few years back. Several claims by individuals with Dr or MD in their name. Why should I believe this random one? Where's the hundreds of other virologists et al crying out at inaction?
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So odd questions as I don't twitter but...

Do you know this man personally?
Do you know if he is really a doctor? Or pathologist?
Are you taking the post at face value because the title of his account?
Can I create a twitter account with Dr in my name?
I'm a meteorologist by trade. Can I post that global warming is gonna kill us all like 10 years ago? Or maybe in 50?

I guess most important question: Why do you believe that to be genuine?
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Did you read the whole sequence of tweets? He is being deadly serious.

So odd questions as I don't twitter but...

Do you know this man personally?
Do you know if he is really a doctor? Or pathologist?
Are you taking the post at face value because the title of his account?
Can I create a twitter account with Dr in my name?
I'm a meteorologist by trade. Can I post that global warming is gonna kill us all like 10 years ago? Or maybe in 50?

I guess most important question: Why do you believe that to be genuine?
Well he's obviously drawing conclusions from data that has been corroborated by multiple sources today.
Whether his conclusions are correct or not; I don't have a clue.
But it's enough to get me to pay better attention to what's going on.
How about you?
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