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1/22/2020 9:29:58 AM EDT
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M-O-O-N!  That spells quarantine!
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1/22/2020 9:34:26 AM EDT
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Historically, they have always downplayed outbreaks, until they could not.

They did it with H1N1, H5N1 and with SARS.

SO not sure what you are getting at. When did the chinese ever tell the world about the truth about anything?
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They downplay outbreaks that affect their agricultural production.
1/22/2020 9:35:05 AM EDT
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You are right. It could be much larger as time goes on and hospital vents get all used and lots don't get a vent. Plus in could take 2 weeks to die and lots of people are not at the death point yet.

Or it could be a lot less with many infections that are unknown because they are not that sick and don't go to the hospital.

It is too early to tell.
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There’s that could word again
1/22/2020 9:39:48 AM EDT
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"Baby, can you dig your man?"

"He's a righteous man."

What a great time to watch ole Randy Flagg unleash Captain Trips on the world's population.
1/22/2020 9:42:28 AM EDT
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So climate change isn't the #1 killer now?
1/22/2020 10:52:56 AM EDT
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Recent press conference in Hubei states official counts as 444 infections, 17 deceased.
1/22/2020 11:19:35 AM EDT
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Recent press conference in Hubei states official counts as 444 infections, 17 deceased.
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Basic math says that’s approximately 4% without being able to calculate based on other factors.

Chinese authorities are making certain to note the fatalities are those with compromised immune systems and/or other underlying health problems. I’m interested to know the rates of recovery.

I live near a huge university with a significant population of ethnic Chinese. One thing I noticed during my time in grad school is the Chinese students in my program didn’t really exercise sanitary conduct- what I mean is they rarely covered their mouths when coughing or sneezing. They fired it off in close proximity to their peers. They also seemed to wash their hands before using the toilet but not after. So that might contribute to the rapid spread as much as anything.
1/22/2020 11:35:56 AM EDT
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Basic math says that’s approximately 4% without being able to calculate based on other factors.

Chinese authorities are making certain to note the fatalities are those with compromised immune systems and/or other underlying health problems. I’m interested to know the rates of recovery.

I live near a huge university with a significant population of ethnic Chinese. One thing I noticed during my time in grad school is the Chinese students in my program didn’t really exercise sanitary conduct- what I mean is they rarely covered their mouths when coughing or sneezing. They fired it off in close proximity to their peers. They also seemed to wash their hands before using the toilet but not after. So that might contribute to the rapid spread as much as anything.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jS24DjSPVWa4iuxuD4OAXrE3QeI8c9BC1hSlqr-NMiU/htmlview#

I found this spreadsheet that’s being updated with data from the dxy.cn website, which is a Chinese medical community site.  It’s maintained with notes on updates values.

There are obviously many unknown variables at play regarding the infectiousness, but sanitation and personal hygiene may indeed be a major factor.
1/22/2020 11:36:12 AM EDT
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News reports here revealed officials are not saying what local clinic he walked into initially and got tested prior to being transported to the hospital quarantine. No telling how many more may have been exposed.

"Last night, the Snohomish Health District coordinated with local partners to safely transport the patient to Providence Regional Medical Center in Everett. This is all being done following our jointly developed infectious disease protocols. No one wants to be the first in the nation in these types of situations, but these are the types of situations that public health and its partners train and prepare for. Because of this, everything has been going along quite smoothly," said Dr. Chris Spitters, Health Officer, Snohomish Health District.
The assclown Inslee had the audacity to laugh it off as minor risk at his press conference.https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_angry.gif
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Saw that on the news last night, take your kids to Snohomish, I would without issue.
1/22/2020 11:38:11 AM EDT
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I believe this to be true as well. And whatever it is is going to totally fucking suck for who’s ever around when it happens
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Eventually the world's population will need a check, and mother nature will provide it
It's probably gonna be bad when it happens
I believe this to be true as well. And whatever it is is going to totally fucking suck for who’s ever around when it happens
Because of all the past warnings/viruses/panics; it is a big joke, until it is not.
1/22/2020 11:40:18 AM EDT
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Word is that despite the precautions a good number of them have fallen ill to it.
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From the video clips it looks like their medical teams are using a significant level of PPE. If that’s how they’re responding then either they’re being extra cautious or they’ve been working it for awhile.
Word is that despite the precautions a good number of them have fallen ill to it.
I read yesterday the Doctor in charge of the original team to go in and check this out caught the virus. Being a Doctor and all, recognizing the potential severity, that is scary.
1/22/2020 11:44:41 AM EDT
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I read yesterday the Doctor in charge of the original team to go in and check this out caught the virus. Being a Doctor and all, recognizing the potential severity, that is scary.
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Look at this one. Seems like some real Benny Hill shit going on as far as personal hygiene.

1/22/2020 11:49:08 AM EDT
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REUTERS

JAN 22, 2020

BEIJING – A Chinese physician who was investigating the outbreak of a deadly new virus in central China says he has himself been infected.

Wang Guangfa, who heads the Department of Pulmonary Medicine at Beijing’s Peking University First Hospital, was part of a team of experts that earlier this month visited Wuhan, where the virus emerged.

“I was diagnosed and my condition is fine,” Wang told Kong’s Cable TV on Tuesday, thanking people for their concern.
1/22/2020 11:54:18 AM EDT
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https://www.en24.news/2020/02/mexico-deals-with-2-possible-cases-of-coronavirus.html

2 possible cases in Mexico now. 1 has been ruled out.
1/22/2020 12:05:35 PM EDT
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Look at this one. Seems like some real Benny Hill shit going on as far as personal hygiene.

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Not compared to North America

Asians (particularly Japanese) have a social norm of everyday normal people masking when they are sick, or just preventative when well.

When is the last time you saw people masking outside of a hospital in the US? Americans go out and cough without cover, or maybe into their hands, and then don't wash their hands.

Yea, we have a lower pop density and far less public transit, and so we get away with it, but if we masked like Asians, cold and flu season would be way less bad.

But our obese smoking/vaping types can't handle the inconvenience of the mask... and otherwise healthy Americans just can't be bothered. Americans wear CPAP masks in bed, not droplet masks when out.

1/22/2020 12:32:11 PM EDT
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So are we picking and choosing when and where we take the Chinese word for things or do you always believe the Chinese?
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Lol how else would you do it?
1/22/2020 12:43:47 PM EDT
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PCRs are resulting

540 confirmed cases

17 deaths
1/22/2020 12:49:30 PM EDT
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Not compared to North America

Asians (particularly Japanese) have a social norm of everyday normal people masking when they are sick, or just preventative when well.

When is the last time you saw people masking outside of a hospital in the US? Americans go out and cough without cover, or maybe into their hands, and then don't wash their hands.

Yea, we have a lower pop density and far less public transit, and so we get away with it, but if we masked like Asians, cold and flu season would be way less bad.

But our obese smoking/vaping types can't handle the inconvenience of the mask... and otherwise healthy Americans just can't be bothered. Americans wear CPAP masks in bed, not droplet masks when out.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dG3lbVGrkPk/maxresdefault.jpg
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Fair points.
1/22/2020 12:50:11 PM EDT
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Not compared to North America

Asians (particularly Japanese) have a social norm of everyday normal people masking when they are sick, or just preventative when well.

When is the last time you saw people masking outside of a hospital in the US? Americans go out and cough without cover, or maybe into their hands, and then don't wash their hands.

Yea, we have a lower pop density and far less public transit, and so we get away with it, but if we masked like Asians, cold and flu season would be way less bad.

But our obese smoking/vaping types can't handle the inconvenience of the mask... and otherwise healthy Americans just can't be bothered. Americans wear CPAP masks in bed, not droplet masks when out.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dG3lbVGrkPk/maxresdefault.jpg
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If you have kids or interact with anyone that does then it's hard to avoid. I am pretty over the top at trying to prevent getting a cold but I still do once a year.

Didn't somebody get a felony Monday in VA for wearing a mask?
1/22/2020 12:58:31 PM EDT
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If you have kids or interact with anyone that does then it's hard to avoid. I am pretty over the top at trying to prevent getting a cold but I still do once a year.

Didn't somebody get a felony Monday in VA for wearing a mask?
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I think the point he's trying to make is due diligence in ensuring that your illness doesn't infect others.  Kids are fucking petri dishes though.  Our two week tally here with four kids has been 2 Influenza-B, 2 Double Ear Infections, 3 Strep Throat, 1 RSV... which incidentally resulted in a Ear re-infection.  Oh and we found out our youngest is allergic to amoxicillin.

Kids are the worst if you like to avoid illness.
1/22/2020 1:01:08 PM EDT
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Something is not right about those videos.

Why so many healthcare workers in full PPE?
There are dozens in the same room, with other people just walking around that are not in PPE.

Something is not right about that.
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Propaganda.
1/22/2020 1:24:53 PM EDT
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Yeah, the elderly and others with compromised immune systems...
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This.  Fuck the flu vaccine.
1/22/2020 1:27:55 PM EDT
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This nCoV seems to be infecting and spreading far differently than H5N1 in 2006.
1/22/2020 1:36:08 PM EDT
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This nCoV seems to be infecting and spreading far differently than H5N1 in 2006.
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it is supposed to be as contagious as the common cold which is many factors above the contagiousness of the flu
1/22/2020 1:40:14 PM EDT
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Why does this shit always start in China? They eat their own shit or something?
1/22/2020 1:46:47 PM EDT
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Why does this shit always start in China? They eat their own shit or something?
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Crudely put, but...

"This" seems far different than the usual bird/chicken flu China deals with.

Consider 'someone' WANTED a virus to start in China for appearances and strategic reasons.

And placed it there...
1/22/2020 1:49:01 PM EDT
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Let's hope it doesn't 'spread' to DC and impeachment trial...

Or worse...
1/22/2020 1:50:30 PM EDT
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Let's hope it doesn't spread to DC and impeachment trial...

Or worse...
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Fuck that, let's hope it does!
1/22/2020 1:52:47 PM EDT
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Why does this shit always start in China? They eat their own shit or something?
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Live animal markets packed with anything that moves
1/22/2020 1:53:23 PM EDT
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homeless camps probably.
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Great... Where in Washington State??
homeless camps probably.
Whole Foods or a really conservative church.

1/22/2020 1:57:04 PM EDT
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Why does this shit always start in China? They eat their own shit or something?
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Huge numbers of people living in close quarters with animals in rural areas abutting very populous cities increases the chances of a zoonotic infection mutating into something that can go human to human.

Coronaviruses are mostly found in birds and mammals... think chickens and pigs... and then they jump. Like SARS did.
1/22/2020 2:00:46 PM EDT
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Donald Trump says America has a plan to contain the spread of a deadly new virus from China after the first case was confirmed in the states.

The President, speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, praised the Centers for Disease Control and said the situation was being handled 'very well'.


^^^^^^^ Judge in Seattle/Portland/San Fran; NOPE, NOPE, NOPE, You can't do that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Calling it now.

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1/22/2020 2:03:31 PM EDT
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Why does this shit always start in China? They eat their own shit or something?
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Seems all the invasive species come from Asia to.
1/22/2020 2:08:15 PM EDT
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Nvm
1/22/2020 2:13:24 PM EDT
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Experts say its possible up to 10,000 people in China alone have been exposed to the virus, which is from the same family that caused previous outbreaks of SARS and MERS, killing hundreds of people in dozens of countries.

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1/22/2020 2:14:25 PM EDT
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LOL, nice shot of the north wing. Isn’t that mostly parking?

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1/22/2020 2:19:07 PM EDT
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Experts say its possible up to 10,000 people in China alone have been exposed to the virus, which is from the same family that caused previous outbreaks of SARS and MERS, killing hundreds of people in dozens of countries.

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Yea, it sounds like everything is getting unreported at this point. Thousands of infections potentially.

https://www.mobs-lab.org/2019ncov.html
1/22/2020 2:25:14 PM EDT
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Yea, it sounds like everything is getting unreported at this point. Thousands of infections potentially.

https://www.mobs-lab.org/2019ncov.html
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Experts say its possible up to 10,000 people in China alone have been exposed to the virus, which is from the same family that caused previous outbreaks of SARS and MERS, killing hundreds of people in dozens of countries.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/farrel3mvoaz_jpg-1244740.JPG

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Yea, it sounds like everything is getting unreported at this point. Thousands of infections potentially.

https://www.mobs-lab.org/2019ncov.html
Never heard of Wuhan before the outbreak;

11 million live there.

WIKI
1/22/2020 2:28:37 PM EDT
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SARS had IIRC a R naught of 3-4, which meant the average person who had the virus in turn infected 3-4 others.

If this virus is also a Coronavirus like SARS then it might be comparable in that regard.

The reservoir species for SARS was probably bats and they were found in a cave in Yunnan province which is in the extreme south of the country (next to Burma and Vietnam).  There are large cave complexes in many parts of China, and the biggest is (I think) Yin Shui, which is about 70 miles from Wuhan.

Anyhoo, China has a demonstrated history of under-reporting and I don't expect much different this time.
1/22/2020 2:34:56 PM EDT
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Crudely put, but...

"This" seems far different than the usual bird/chicken flu China deals with.

Consider 'someone' WANTED a virus to start in China for appearances and strategic reasons.

And placed it there...
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Plot twist, it was developed in an american lab and was stolen by a chinese national.
1/22/2020 2:35:44 PM EDT
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Seems all the invasive species come from Asia to.
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Thats racist
1/22/2020 2:36:38 PM EDT
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Plot twist, it was developed in an american lab and was stolen by a chinese national.
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Prolly happens every day...
1/22/2020 2:37:00 PM EDT
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Plot twist, it was developed in an american lab and was stolen by a chinese national.
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I heard it was a vaccine that was created to cure cancer that mutated into its present form.
1/22/2020 2:38:51 PM EDT
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There wasn't a treatment in China.

This is a first world country. My bet is that this fizzles out as a nothing burger just like every other time.
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The "other times" "fizzled out as a nothing burger" because of dramatic, self-sacrificing acts on the part of health care workers, and it was still a very close run thing.
1/22/2020 2:41:04 PM EDT
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I heard it was a vaccine that was created to cure cancer that mutated into its present form.
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Plot twist, it was developed in an american lab and was stolen by a chinese national.
I heard it was a vaccine that was created to cure cancer that mutated into its present form.
ORLY?
1/22/2020 2:43:05 PM EDT
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West nile virus.
We had mad cow.
the swine flu.
the bird flu.
This is it fellas. This is the one.
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You left out:

Ebolla
Marburg
Lassa
Yellow fever
Scarlet Fever
MERSA
Crimean-Congo Haemorrhagic Fever
Nipah Virus (NiV)
Rift Valley Fever (RVF)
1/22/2020 2:47:22 PM EDT
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Corona Virus?
Drink Modello!

The Chicoms poisoned the Corona!
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I would rather have the poisoned Corona.  Modello tastes awful.
1/22/2020 2:49:32 PM EDT
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Why do all the new novel viruses all come from China?

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Has to do with their agricultural processes.  For example - feeding chickens in cages where the poop and excess feed falls below to pigs in cages, where the poop and excess feed falls to the fish tanks below.

Enjoy that Chinese tilapia!
1/22/2020 2:52:07 PM EDT
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Experts say its possible up to 10,000 people in China alone have been exposed to the virus, which is from the same family that caused previous outbreaks of SARS and MERS, killing hundreds of people in dozens of countries.

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Yeah it doesn’t make sense to me that only 540+/- cases reported and yet every province in China is reporting infections. Tens of thousands of infections makes more sense.
1/22/2020 2:53:11 PM EDT
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