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Posted: 1/23/2020 10:53:15 AM EST
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I'm just paying attention to what this thing looks like when it hits a western advanced modern medical system.
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Posted: 1/23/2020 10:58:21 AM EST
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Singapore, Vietnam and Saudi Arabia become the latest countries to confirm cases
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:00:10 AM EST
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I'm just paying attention to what this thing looks like when it hits a western advanced modern medical system. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:02:58 AM EST
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599 confirmed cases now 
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:03:25 AM EST
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That’s the hope right, it hits modern western medicine and gets run through a buzz saw and turns into nothing here. That’s probably the best case scenario. As expected, a strong immune system is likely critical. Eat your spinach boys and girls. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:27:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm no MD MPH nor some PhD virologist... infectious disease does fall into my professional focus though. Yea it's really clear they are fellating PRC. I'm guessing PRC is pressuring them behind the scenes to both praise PRC and not to declare the emergency. 1. Calm people down - Don't panic things are under control. We're working with china and are managing it but its really all the international community's responsibility to work with us! 2. Give as little information as possible 3. Don't piss off China - Chinese are in control and they could quickly stop cooperating with the WHO. Also, they are very conservative people and now they have a lot of money and influence so, another reason not to piss them off. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:36:36 AM EST
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630 infected per BBC.
Four people in Scotland who recently visited Wuhan and have respiratory symptoms are being tested. BBC |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:38:49 AM EST
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Can we just call this the Wuhan Flu or would that be too simple? N95 masks are still in stock at your local Home Depot. If you get the big box it runs around $.90 per mask. We don't know if they were wearing goggles! |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:42:47 AM EST
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A doctor at a Wuhan hospital tells BBC News of her alarm at the spread of the outbreak. We have chosen to protect the doctor's identity.
It's my first epidemic. The first time we heard about coronavirus was 31 December, when there were a few cases. But in the last two weeks, there has been an alarming rate of spread. I am scared because this is a new virus and the figures are alarming. The hospitals have been flooding with patients, there are thousands, I haven't seen so many before. They have to wait for hours before they see a doctor - you can imagine their panic. It's a new virus, so there isn't much information. The incubation period is usually seven days, with two to three days the minimum period and 10 to 12 days the maximum. It is spread through human-to-human transmission and there are also medical-staff infections. The virus may mutate, so there is further risk of spread. BBC |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:43:15 AM EST
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Then you do cultures and PCRs which will tell you is this nCoV2019 or is it influenza or is it something else (RSV, bacterial, etc)? The results come back a day later or so leaving time for the media to froth. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:46:48 AM EST
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Is it contagious before the patient in symptomatic?
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:56:28 AM EST
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Same feeling here, but I figure I have another day or two to remain optimistic of a favorable outcome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, I already see the genie out of the bottle on this. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:59:34 AM EST
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AND Now this from our local news...
https://q13fox.com/2020/01/23/at-least-16-people-in-king-snohomish-counties-being-monitored-by-phone-for-coronavirus-symptoms/ Frackn edge won't let me hotlink 
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:00:37 PM EST
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AND Now this from our local news... https://q13fox.com/2020/01/23/at-least-16-people-in-king-snohomish-counties-being-monitored-by-phone-for-coronavirus-symptoms/ https://q13fox.com/2020/01/23/at-least-16-people-in-king-snohomish-counties-being-monitored-by-phone-for-coronavirus-symptoms/ At least 16 people in King & Snohomish Counties being monitored by phone for Coronavirus symptoms |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:00:51 PM EST
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Searching twitter is showing up lots of videos like this.
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:04:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just came to post and saw your post; At least 16 people in King & Snohomish Counties being monitored by phone for Coronavirus symptoms |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:05:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My thoughts exactly .... I may extend that to another week depending on circumstances. A week is probably appropriate due to the likely incubation period. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:07:11 PM EST
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Poor people the world over are gonna die, people with access to modern healthcare not so much.
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:13:48 PM EST
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No doubt most are from the first clinic he went to & not Providence, since they picked him up from home using containment equipment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Just came to post and saw your post; At least 16 people in King & Snohomish Counties being monitored by phone for Coronavirus symptoms |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:14:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That could be some poetic justice/karma at work right there. 
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:17:24 PM EST
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If my neighbors are infected, what temperature do I need to cook them at to still be safe?
... just trying to plan ahead before the internet goes down and society collapses. 
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:23:04 PM EST
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If my neighbors are infected, what temperature do I need to cook them at to still be safe? ... just trying to plan ahead before the internet goes down and society collapses. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:25:29 PM EST
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Searching twitter is showing up lots of videos like this.
Also the people standing near by without masks... 
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:35:50 PM EST
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It could go as high as 600. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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599 confirmed cases now |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:41:54 PM EST
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:43:18 PM EST
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Apparently there was a patent in 2015 for a cure.... Thought this was a new virus
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701 |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:43:33 PM EST
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Not 601, or 607, or 623.... 600. Wonder if test kits come in cases of 600 units. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:47:47 PM EST
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Apparently there was a patent in 2015 for a cure.... Thought this was a new virus https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701 |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:52:43 PM EST
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Fourth city in China entering quarantine.
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:55:23 PM EST
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Fourth city in China entering quarantine.
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:57:31 PM EST
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A passenger on a flight to Los Angeles International Airport from Mexico City has been hospitalized and quarantined after showing 'disturbing' symptoms consistent with China's deadly coronavirus, health officials announced Thursday.
The passenger, who has not been identified, arrived at LAX on American Airlines flight 2546 on Wednesday evening and was met by Los Angeles firefighters and police. Officials conducted a 'deep contamination process' after transporting the patient to a local hospital. DM |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:58:06 PM EST
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So how much of this is standard hype train over standard chinese procedure? Or is it really habbening now? they now have seven cities quarantined over 20 million people looks to me like it's happening |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:59:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WHO briefing starts in a few minutes. ETA: I read that they've deferred decision again, until tomorrow. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:00:08 PM EST
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China has never quarantine a single city or town they now have seven cities quarantined over 20 million people looks to me like it's happening Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So how much of this is standard hype train over standard chinese procedure? Or is it really habbening now? they now have seven cities quarantined over 20 million people looks to me like it's happening Dr Guan Yi, director of the State Key Laboratory of Emerging Infectious Diseases at the University of Hong Kong, confessed to Chinese media that the situation in Wuhan - where the virus originated - was already 'uncontrollable'. He also claimed that the Chinese authorities missed the 'golden period' to control the virus and prevent it from spreading. 'I have experienced so much and never felt scared. Most [viruses] are controllable, but this time I am scared,' Dr Guan told the press, predicting the worst is yet to come. Link ETA: In an interview with Chinese news outlet Caixin, Dr Guan feared that 'much more' people from Wuhan had been infected by the new virus than the total number of SARS cases, and many of them had already left Wuhan because of the Chinese New Year. He doubted the effect of putting Wuhan under lockdown right now, claiming that the sources of infection had 'spread out completely'. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:02:32 PM EST
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No doubt most are from the first clinic he went to & not Providence, since they picked him up from home using containment equipment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Just came to post and saw your post; At least 16 people in King & Snohomish Counties being monitored by phone for Coronavirus symptoms |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:03:51 PM EST
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If my neighbors are infected, what temperature do I need to cook them at to still be safe? ... just trying to plan ahead before the internet goes down and society collapses. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:11:52 PM EST
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Singapore, Vietnam and Saudi Arabia become the latest countries to confirm cases DM^ |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:27:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck. I was hoping it wouldnt show up this close to me.... |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:45:51 PM EST
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China has never quarantine a single city or town they now have seven cities quarantined over 20 million people looks to me like it's happening Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So how much of this is standard hype train over standard chinese procedure? Or is it really habbening now? they now have seven cities quarantined over 20 million people looks to me like it's happening And what do they know about the mortality rate that they’re not sharing? |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:47:27 PM EST
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If my neighbors are infected, what temperature do I need to cook them at to still be safe? ... just trying to plan ahead before the internet goes down and society collapses. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:49:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah It appears they’re not being completely honest in how bad this really is. I wouldn’t judge it on the number of infected being reported as much as I would the growing quarantine zones. And what do they know about the mortality rate that they’re not sharing? Also worth considering is what happens once the healthcare system is overwhelmed and the critical care cases can no longer be adequately supported? |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:50:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah It appears they’re not being completely honest in how bad this really is. I wouldn’t judge it on the number of infected being reported as much as I would the growing quarantine zones. And what do they know about the mortality rate that they’re not sharing? |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 1:54:31 PM EST
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That's pretty much where I'm at. Based on the official numbers, if you compare this to the flu this is nothing. However, the quarantine response is severely disproportionate to the numbers. Something and some things aren't adding up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yeah It appears they’re not being completely honest in how bad this really is. I wouldn’t judge it on the number of infected being reported as much as I would the growing quarantine zones. And what do they know about the mortality rate that they’re not sharing? |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 2:02:29 PM EST
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That's pretty much where I'm at. Based on the official numbers, if you compare this to the flu this is nothing. However, the quarantine response is severely disproportionate to the numbers. Something and some things aren't adding up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yeah It appears they’re not being completely honest in how bad this really is. I wouldn’t judge it on the number of infected being reported as much as I would the growing quarantine zones. And what do they know about the mortality rate that they’re not sharing? |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 2:05:43 PM EST
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That’s what I was saying yesterday. They are downplaying the severity and hiding the real numbers. In my mind it means they tried to hide what may amount to a global pandemic, keeping other nations from locking down international travel and essentially guaranteeing the virus is successful. Those communist motherfuckers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Yeah It appears they’re not being completely honest in how bad this really is. I wouldn’t judge it on the number of infected being reported as much as I would the growing quarantine zones. And what do they know about the mortality rate that they’re not sharing? |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 2:12:20 PM EST
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That's something I've been thinking about this morning. It's been almost 24 hours since they've updated the mort numbers? Gives me a bad feeling. Also worth considering is what happens once the healthcare system is overwhelmed and the critical care cases can no longer be adequately supported? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yeah It appears they’re not being completely honest in how bad this really is. I wouldn’t judge it on the number of infected being reported as much as I would the growing quarantine zones. And what do they know about the mortality rate that they’re not sharing? Also worth considering is what happens once the healthcare system is overwhelmed and the critical care cases can no longer be adequately supported? We’re not going to have any idea how contagious or deadly this is until there’s widespread cases here. Communist censorship even dealing with a possible pandemic. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 2:14:36 PM EST
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Well, they cooked the bats before eating and that doesn't seem to have helped... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If my neighbors are infected, what temperature do I need to cook them at to still be safe? ... just trying to plan ahead before the internet goes down and society collapses. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 2:20:14 PM EST
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Posted: 1/23/2020 2:21:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's something I've been thinking about this morning. It's been almost 24 hours since they've updated the mort numbers? Gives me a bad feeling. Also worth considering is what happens once the healthcare system is overwhelmed and the critical care cases can no longer be adequately supported? |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 2:23:12 PM EST
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A doctor at a Wuhan hospital tells BBC News of her alarm at the spread of the outbreak. We have chosen to protect the doctor's identity. It's my first epidemic. The first time we heard about coronavirus was 31 December, when there were a few cases. But in the last two weeks, there has been an alarming rate of spread. I am scared because this is a new virus and the figures are alarming. The hospitals have been flooding with patients, there are thousands, I haven't seen so many before. They have to wait for hours before they see a doctor - you can imagine their panic. It's a new virus, so there isn't much information. The incubation period is usually seven days, with two to three days the minimum period and 10 to 12 days the maximum. It is spread through human-to-human transmission and there are also medical-staff infections. The virus may mutate, so there is further risk of spread. BBC That's one of the reasons Ebola doesn't spread that far. It acts too quickly. |
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