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Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:33:34 PM EDT
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What constitutes a "Massive" accidentally drug OD?
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Hmmmm!  I never got the “accidental” part of an overdose figured out.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:33:58 PM EDT
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Heroin is a hella drug
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:34:46 PM EDT
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I guess it's a gateway drug after all.
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I surely thought it was going to be an accidental overdose of marijuanna. GD and Jeff Sessions has assured me that it is super dangerous and this guy sang songs about it.
I guess it's a gateway drug after all.
Yep. It's all because of weed.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:35:17 PM EDT
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I was at one of his very last shows, less than a month before he died. He was saying goodbye... nothing was accidental, he killed himself.

I even told my wife that the whole show sounded like a suicide note... a positive one, but it was obiviois he was done living.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:35:25 PM EDT
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Damn, he had the fentanyl variety pack going
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:36:04 PM EDT
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And two benzodiazepines to boot.  Benzo + opiate = high risk of death, especially in someone with already compromised respiratory system. (The article mentions emphysema)
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:36:47 PM EDT
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I was at one of his very last shows, less than a month before he died. He was saying goodbye... nothing was accidental, he killed himself.
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Like to expand on that?
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:36:56 PM EDT
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Easy enough to doctor shop and get a bunch of crazy shit, especially when you have cash.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:39:00 PM EDT
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If you're intentionally doing drugs, frequently & repeatedly, then I'm not sure how it's really an accident.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and all that.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:39:14 PM EDT
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And two benzodiazepines to boot.  Benzo + opiate = high risk of death, especially in someone with already compromised respiratory system. (The article mentions emphysema)
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"Suicide by Doctor" should be added to the lexicon at this point.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:39:59 PM EDT
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Let's all light a candle under a spoon to memorialize him.
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A fitting memorial.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:41:20 PM EDT
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How long ago did this happen

I've got the Mandela Effect like a motherfucker; I could swear that he checked out a couple of years ago.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:42:09 PM EDT
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What about the Cranberries singer?
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Nobody cares because they sucked.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:42:56 PM EDT
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So sad.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:43:46 PM EDT
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He was talking about his life and career and band mates as though it was past tense... like he was already gone. It was all very positive and one of the best shows I’ve ever seen...  But he spent at least 5 minutes per band member explaining his relationship with them, how they met, etc... they were the words of a very appreciative, dying man who had nothing else to prove.  I’ll cherish that show forever as I knew it was his goodbye.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:44:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:46:32 PM EDT
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Another minstrel, juggling clown down. He had one or two songs that were ok, but even those couple songs were played to adnauseum .
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:47:42 PM EDT
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He was talking about his life and career and band mates as though it was past tense... like he was already gone. It was all very positive and one of the best shows I’ve ever seen...  But he spent at least 5 minutes per band member explaining his relationship with them, how they met, etc... they were the words of a very appreciative, dying man who had nothing else to prove.  I’ll cherish that show forever as I knew it was his goodbye.
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He was talking about his life and career and band mates as though it was past tense... like he was already gone. It was all very positive and one of the best shows I’ve ever seen...  But he spent at least 5 minutes per band member explaining his relationship with them, how they met, etc... they were the words of a very appreciative, dying man who had nothing else to prove.  I’ll cherish that show forever as I knew it was his goodbye.
Wow, that's really weird.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:48:34 PM EDT
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Another minstrel, juggling clown down. He had one or two songs that were ok, but even those couple songs were played to adnauseum .
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You have no idea what you're going on about.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:49:03 PM EDT
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From my hometown
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:51:04 PM EDT
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Wow, that's really weird.
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He was talking about his life and career and band mates as though it was past tense... like he was already gone. It was all very positive and one of the best shows I’ve ever seen...  But he spent at least 5 minutes per band member explaining his relationship with them, how they met, etc... they were the words of a very appreciative, dying man who had nothing else to prove.  I’ll cherish that show forever as I knew it was his goodbye.
Wow, that's really weird.
It was actually quite soothing, man... reminded me of my old man before he died, there was a lot of dignity and grace.  When I heard he died my wife texted me within 20 minutes and said “you were right!!”
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 8:53:30 PM EDT
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Another minstrel, juggling clown down. He had one or two songs that were ok, but even those couple songs were played to adnauseum .
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Hahahahahhahahah!!! You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. The dude had dozens of hits that spanned more decades than you’ve been alive...
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:00:58 PM EDT
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He fent'ayled
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:01:46 PM EDT
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And two benzodiazepines to boot.  Benzo + opiate = high risk of death, especially in someone with already compromised respiratory system. (The article mentions emphysema)
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@NavyDoc1 This is something I've learned over the past year or so. That combo right there is what seems to kill most people - not the prescription opiates alone. It seems like just about every time you really look into it, they're also taking prescribed benzos.

Really sad. I'm not a doctor, so I'll ask you - is this something doctors should be really thinking carefully about? As in, should this prescribed combo be extremely rare to non-existent?
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:02:18 PM EDT
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A waste of a good life.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:02:23 PM EDT
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The entertainment industry has culture of recreational drug use  and I am not surprised that many died because of direct or indirect drug usage. Unfortunate.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:03:04 PM EDT
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Who gives a a shit.
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Not you apparently.  You're hard as fuck.  And the edge .....
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:04:35 PM EDT
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accidents happen I guess.  Some meth almost accidentally fell into my mouth, glad I got quick reflexes
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Don't be an idiot.  I see what you are trying to get at but it's not even remotely the same.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:04:55 PM EDT
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A waste of a good life.
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Meh... he drove the wheels off life if you ask me. Saw more places, met more people, had more fun than half this board combined. Not to mention he left a library of toe tapping, drunk girl signing, American music that will live on for generations.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:05:54 PM EDT
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Last dance with Mary jane
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:06:21 PM EDT
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Sucks.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:06:37 PM EDT
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That's a shame.  I have fond memories of seeing him live.

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We saw him in concert a few years ago.  The tour before his last tour.  Absolutely stunning performance.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:07:28 PM EDT
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And two benzodiazepines to boot.  Benzo + opiate = high risk of death, especially in someone with already compromised respiratory system. (The article mentions emphysema)
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This. Hypotension, sedation, apnea. Lots of fun on the way down.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:08:40 PM EDT
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Tom's autopsy report shows the singer was on several pain meds, including Fentanyl patches, oxycodone, temazepam, alprazolam, citalopram, acetylfentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl.  The reason doctors prescribed the meds was because of a number of medical problems, including emphysema, knee problems and a fractured hip.

Opiates strike again
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Doc shopping with multiple scripts from Doctor feel Goods. He was always a druggy, used just to be pot though.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:09:50 PM EDT
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@NavyDoc1 This is something I've learned over the past year or so. That combo right there is what seems to kill most people - not the prescription opiates alone. It seems like just about every time you really look into it, they're also taking prescribed benzos.

Really sad. I'm not a doctor, so I'll ask you - is this something doctors should be really thinking carefully about? As in, should this prescribed combo be extremely rare to non-existent?
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It’s a serious combination as they together cause synergistic respiratory depression and apnea.  Docs should be really cautious and, IMHO benzodiazepines should not be prescribed regularly for outpatients.  The typical diagnosis is for “anxiety.”  There are better treatments for that than a highly addictive and dangerous drug TID.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:09:52 PM EDT
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"shows the singer was on several pain meds, including Fentanyl patches, oxycodone (Oxycontin), temazepam (Restoril), alprazolam (Xanax), citalopram (Celexa), acetyl fentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl"

Wow, I only know what one of those are. Does that mean I had a lame childhood?
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:10:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:13:18 PM EDT
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Hell I kind of figured it was a given
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:15:05 PM EDT
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He was 66. You'd think from decades of indulgences he'd have had the details worked out.

http://k106fm.com/files/2015/05/today-in-rock-historymay-11th.jpg

Tom Petty fan.

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One never knows for sure the potency of what one was...given. It's not like he had it analyzed at a lab.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:18:37 PM EDT
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@NavyDoc1 This is something I've learned over the past year or so. That combo right there is what seems to kill most people - not the prescription opiates alone. It seems like just about every time you really look into it, they're also taking prescribed benzos.

Really sad. I'm not a doctor, so I'll ask you - is this something doctors should be really thinking carefully about? As in, should this prescribed combo be extremely rare to non-existent?
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there is no prescription pain med stronger than fentanyl. as far as i know (i used to be a pharmacist) there isnt another similar opiate that is as potent. my mother was on them when she had terminal cancer. any doc prescribing fentanyl of any kind has got be either deeply concerned about drug interactions with any other medication the patient is taking and if the person as a decreased lung capacity alone should be of great concern. to mix benzos with fentanyl with compromised lung capacity is about on par with the doc that give michael jackson propofol via a drip. its like sleeping with a black mamba. its crazy.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:19:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:22:02 PM EDT
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Who gives a a shit.
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If your reading comprehension wasn't so poor you'd notice that plenty of people care.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:24:09 PM EDT
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accidents happen I guess.  Some meth almost accidentally fell into my mouth, glad I got quick reflexes
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Yea the accidental overdose thing always makes me snicker.  Yea it's not an accident.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 9:32:27 PM EDT
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So pretty much exactly the same as Prince.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 10:01:42 PM EDT
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Another minstrel, juggling clown down. He had one or two songs that were ok, but even those couple songs were played to adnauseum .
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So edgy.

Adults are talking. Go play somewhere else.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 10:12:04 PM EDT
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I like this version of American Girl with Jungle Pam

Jungle Jim and Jungle Pam - Drag Racing Legends
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 10:15:22 PM EDT
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Yea the accidental overdose thing always makes me snicker.  Yea it's not an accident.
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accidents happen I guess.  Some meth almost accidentally fell into my mouth, glad I got quick reflexes
Yea the accidental overdose thing always makes me snicker.  Yea it's not an accident.
Well. In this case it very well could be. He received meds from a physician. Even in normal doses. Benzodiazepines and opiates can kill.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 10:29:20 PM EDT
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It’s a serious combination as they together cause synergistic respiratory depression and apnea.  Docs should be really cautious and, IMHO benzodiazepines should not be prescribed regularly for outpatients.  The typical diagnosis is for “anxiety.”  There are better treatments for that than a highly addictive and dangerous drug TID.
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Patients who are drug seekers lie through their teeth to get what they want.  I've met a number of people who were taking xanax for anxiety over a long term.  Are there really that many physicians prescribing that shit on basically open ended prescriptions or is it doctor shopping?   The latter seems more likely.
Link Posted: 1/19/2018 10:35:59 PM EDT
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Well. In this case it very well could be. He received meds from a physician. Even in normal doses. Benzodiazepines and opiates can kill.
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Well. In this case it very well could be. He received meds from a physician. Even in normal doses. Benzodiazepines and opiates can kill.
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Tom's autopsy report shows the singer was on several pain meds, including Fentanyl patches, oxycodone, temazepam, alprazolam, citalopram, acetylfentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl.
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Acetyl fentanyl has not been approved for medical use in
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Link Posted: 1/19/2018 10:36:46 PM EDT
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Damn, that's some bad shit he mixed.
Accident, suuuuuuuuuurrre it was.
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