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Posted: 3/18/2023 12:15:59 PM EST
I seriously get goosebumps during this whole thing. It's just amazing.
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Posted: 3/18/2023 12:21:39 PM EST
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It felt like a weird intersection of product placement and trolling to me.
“We can’t have the F-35C be the star airplane, but we can do this.”  That said, whenever I think about that scene this is the song that comes to mind. Perhaps someday someone will edit the 2 together.  Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Is In) |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 12:26:25 PM EST
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I like Top Gun 2. The storyline is so simple, my 7 year-old niece was able to follow along easily.
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Posted: 3/18/2023 12:35:04 PM EST
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There is a fascinating fan theory that goes, (I'll put in a spoiler tag even though you should have seen it by now)
Click To View Spoiler I actually love that theory. 
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Posted: 3/18/2023 12:51:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a fascinating fan theory that goes, (I'll put in a spoiler tag even though you should have seen it by now) Click To View Spoiler I actually love that theory. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 12:53:13 PM EST
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Posted: 3/18/2023 12:53:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There is a fascinating fan theory that goes, (I'll put in a spoiler tag even though you should have seen it by now) Click To View Spoiler I actually love that theory. Click To View Spoiler That sequence was the one part of the whole movie I had a hard time with lol. Mostly the ejection part. There's a lot of "it's in the script" i'm ok with for a fun movie but at some point when you start really just throwing all physics out the window I just kind of roll my eyes lol. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 12:56:13 PM EST
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Posted: 3/18/2023 1:02:50 PM EST
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I like how the young pilots come in and go "but we're the best, who is going to teach us" lol.
The real best are the old dudes with thousands of hours. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 1:13:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That sequence was the one part of the whole movie I had a hard time with lol. Mostly the ejection part. There's a lot of "it's in the script" i'm ok with for a fun movie but at some point when you start really just throwing all physics out the window I just kind of roll my eyes lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There is a fascinating fan theory that goes, (I'll put in a spoiler tag even though you should have seen it by now) Click To View Spoiler I actually love that theory. Click To View Spoiler That sequence was the one part of the whole movie I had a hard time with lol. Mostly the ejection part. There's a lot of "it's in the script" i'm ok with for a fun movie but at some point when you start really just throwing all physics out the window I just kind of roll my eyes lol. I hear ya, but physics aside, the whole narrative point of the scene was to try to recapture that special something from the Right Stuff. Perhaps a bit manipulative of the audience, but if they do it well enough I'll allow it. I had the same feeling with the Tale of Two Cities reading at Bruce Wayne's 'funeral' in Dark Knight Rises - they did a good enough job that what could have elicited an eye-roll instead fit and supplemented the narrative. (For an unsuccessful attempt at another French Revolution reference being too on-the-nose, see the moment in the Honorverse where a character signs his name as Rob. S. Pierre. Ok, David Weber, we get it, it's Horatio Hornblower in space.) |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 1:15:59 PM EST
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 F-14 Vs SU-57 Dogfight (Top Gun: Maverick) I liked this one...so cheesy. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 1:23:16 PM EST
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I always get aggravated with movie fighter pilots taking off their oxygen mask once the dramatic sequence is over.
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Posted: 3/18/2023 1:25:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always get aggravated with movie fighter pilots taking off their oxygen mask once the dramatic sequence is over. And then panting for breath as though the mask has been cutting off all oxygen somehow |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 2:29:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And then panting for breath as though the mask has been cutting off all oxygen somehow Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I always get aggravated with movie fighter pilots taking off their oxygen mask once the dramatic sequence is over. And then panting for breath as though the mask has been cutting off all oxygen somehow Not contradicting Hollywood silliness abounds, but the mental and physical stresses while maneuvering a jet like a dog fight or missile evasion are very well illustrated in the voice recordings of the F16 pilot evading SAM launches over Iraq, back during the no fly zone troubles after Desert Storm. Also in the recordings of the F14's shooting down the Libyans. Its some good listening... You can really get a whiff of the stress in the lead F14 pilot, "hes jinked BACK into me again!"..."fox 1!"...and the other one saying "awe jesus" Gulf Of Sidra 1989 F14 vs MiG23 F16 dodges 6 SAMs This one gave me chills the first time I watched it. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 2:33:48 PM EST
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It kinda reminded me of Firefox.
 Firefox (1982) Major Gant (Clint Eastwood) steals the MIG-31 code named Firefox |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 2:35:35 PM EST
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Of everything in all time that's it?
Ok I guess. Eta. For airplane movies this is better in every way.  Major Kong - Survival Kit Contents Check |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 2:39:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like Top Gun 2. The storyline is so simple, my 7 year-old niece was able to follow along easily. That’s because it was already done a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. I will agree with OP. Great beginning. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 2:39:21 PM EST
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Surviving a breakup at Mach multiples is documented as having had happened. So… while unlikely, it is proved to be possible. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 2:41:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hear ya, but physics aside, the whole narrative point of the scene was to try to recapture that special something from the Right Stuff. Perhaps a bit manipulative of the audience, but if they do it well enough I'll allow it. I had the same feeling with the Tale of Two Cities reading at Bruce Wayne's 'funeral' in Dark Knight Rises - they did a good enough job that what could have elicited an eye-roll instead fit and supplemented the narrative. (For an unsuccessful attempt at another French Revolution reference being too on-the-nose, see the moment in the Honorverse where a character signs his name as Rob. S. Pierre. Ok, David Weber, we get it, it's Horatio Hornblower in space.) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There is a fascinating fan theory that goes, (I'll put in a spoiler tag even though you should have seen it by now) Click To View Spoiler I actually love that theory. Click To View Spoiler That sequence was the one part of the whole movie I had a hard time with lol. Mostly the ejection part. There's a lot of "it's in the script" i'm ok with for a fun movie but at some point when you start really just throwing all physics out the window I just kind of roll my eyes lol. I hear ya, but physics aside, the whole narrative point of the scene was to try to recapture that special something from the Right Stuff. Perhaps a bit manipulative of the audience, but if they do it well enough I'll allow it. I had the same feeling with the Tale of Two Cities reading at Bruce Wayne's 'funeral' in Dark Knight Rises - they did a good enough job that what could have elicited an eye-roll instead fit and supplemented the narrative. (For an unsuccessful attempt at another French Revolution reference being too on-the-nose, see the moment in the Honorverse where a character signs his name as Rob. S. Pierre. Ok, David Weber, we get it, it's Horatio Hornblower in space.)
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Posted: 3/18/2023 2:52:17 PM EST
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It was better when it was called The Right Stuff.
 THE RIGHT STUFF Chuck Yeager (Sam Shepard) breaks The Sound Barrier |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 4:14:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: …. Surviving a breakup at Mach multiples is documented as having had happened. So… while unlikely, it is proved to be possible. There was an A12 or SR71, I forget which, that broke up at Mach 3. I believe the RIO survived. ETA: Bill Weaver was the pilot and survivor. Mach 3.18 @ 78k feet. His story |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 4:18:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like Top Gun 2. The storyline is so simple, my 7 year-old niece was able to follow along easily. In so many ways, it's the perfect movie. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 4:23:02 PM EST
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Quoted: I seriously get goosebumps during this whole thing. It's just amazing.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PTxm1lBQeQ Of course you do |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 4:36:10 PM EST
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It was kinda cool until the part where he survived ejection at Mach 10 with not so much a scratch.
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Posted: 3/18/2023 4:39:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was better when it was called The Right Stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgR-KadhgMIYEP- Pretty much that whole Chuck Yeager scene just a fancier plane and Tom Cruise plugged in. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 4:39:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was kinda cool until the part where he survived ejection at Mach 10 with not so much a scratch. See above… maybe he didn’t. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 5:36:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryEnjoyed Kenneth Colley (Admiral Piett) in that picture |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 5:49:33 PM EST
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So is the Darkstar the aurora and is it real? I've heard about the aurora for over 20 years but it's still allegedly science fiction but so was the f117
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Posted: 3/19/2023 5:50:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was better when it was called The Right Stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgR-KadhgMIThis. It was a straight rip off of a classic. The cringiest part of an intentionally cheesy movie. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 5:53:34 PM EST
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It was good, but I have to say Independence Day was a significantly better movie along with being more realistic.
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:03:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So is the Darkstar the aurora and is it real? I've heard about the aurora for over 20 years but it's still allegedly science fiction but so was the f117 Lockheed Martin has had some very interesting and cryptic tweets recently regarding the dark star.. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:06:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lockheed Martin has had some very interesting and cryptic tweets recently regarding the dark star.. What they showed in the movie was cute and much too small to carry enough fuel to fly from ground to Mach 10. Unless it was propelled by some wacky thing like metallic hydrogen. If you’ve ever seen an SR-71 in person you can see that they are kinda big.
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:08:19 PM EST
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 Going in for Guns Darkstar, Judy, Judy. I'm going in for guns! |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:17:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was kinda cool until the part where he survived ejection at Mach 10 with not so much a scratch. I am calling BS, he was so parched he couldn't talk!  Top Gun Local Diner Scene | Top Gun: Maverick |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:20:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryWhat am I looking at here? Pilots don't wear glasses? |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:21:33 PM EST
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:25:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That sequence was the one part of the whole movie I had a hard time with lol. Mostly the ejection part. There's a lot of "it's in the script" i'm ok with for a fun movie but at some point when you start really just throwing all physics out the window I just kind of roll my eyes lol. what is throwing all physics out by having the entire cockpit eject, or having a clamshell system like the XB-70 was designed to have? |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:30:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryVin Diesel attacked a submarine in a hot rod. Compared to that, Top Gun is the fucking Seventh Seal. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:26:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. It was a straight rip off of a classic. The cringiest part of an intentionally cheesy movie. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It was better when it was called The Right Stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgR-KadhgMIThis. It was a straight rip off of a classic. The cringiest part of an intentionally cheesy movie. Yeah, well, the target audiences probably aren't ever going to see a 40 year old movie that bombed so bad it killed the studio that released it. It's not in the zeitgeist. Good movie though, and pretty much launched Ed Harris' movie career. On the other hand, Top Gun: Maverick is a sequel to a 37 year old movie that broke box office records, helmed by the most bankable living actor, and is a huge part of the 80's culture and beyond. And I give the Darkstar segment extra credit for bringing Ed Harris in. They knew what they were doing. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:27:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So is the Darkstar the aurora and is it real? I've heard about the aurora for over 20 years but it's still allegedly science fiction but so was the f117 IMO, Aurora is a real manned hypersonic aircraft and Darkstar was its original callsign. There was also a Skunkworks UAV program called Darkstar with the 1st flight in 1996. The UAV Darkstar program was canceled in the late 90's. The UAV was not even supersonic. My theory is that the UAV program was a real, separate program, but was named Darkstar to cover for the real Aurora program when people monitoring military freqs started hearing the Darkstar callsign in the early 90's. ETA, Darkstar is now used as a callsign for AWAC. I was really into researching black projects / Area 51 stuff in the 90s and is when I first heard about Aurora.  The SR-91 Aurora - Does it Exists? - Documentary . |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:30:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am calling BS, he was so parched he couldn't talk! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZp1UoqU3oUQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It was kinda cool until the part where he survived ejection at Mach 10 with not so much a scratch. I am calling BS, he was so parched he couldn't talk! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZp1UoqU3oUThey missed a huge callback opportunity by not having a reference to his hair being on fire. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:49:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryBob is absolutely my favorite character in the movie. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:51:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What am I looking at here? Pilots don't wear glasses? That dude is a Weapons System Officer, not a pilot |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:07:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IMO, Aurora is a real manned hypersonic aircraft and Darkstar was its original callsign. There was also a Skunkworks UAV program called Darkstar with the 1st flight in 1996. The UAV Darkstar program was canceled in the late 90's. The UAV was not even supersonic. My theory is that the UAV program was a real, separate program, but was named Darkstar to cover for the real Aurora program when people monitoring military freqs started hearing the Darkstar callsign in the early 90's. ETA, Darkstar is now used as a callsign for AWAC. I was really into researching black projects / Area 71 stuff in the 90s and is when I first heard about Aurora. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P7ssFbqjbY. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So is the Darkstar the aurora and is it real? I've heard about the aurora for over 20 years but it's still allegedly science fiction but so was the f117 IMO, Aurora is a real manned hypersonic aircraft and Darkstar was its original callsign. There was also a Skunkworks UAV program called Darkstar with the 1st flight in 1996. The UAV Darkstar program was canceled in the late 90's. The UAV was not even supersonic. My theory is that the UAV program was a real, separate program, but was named Darkstar to cover for the real Aurora program when people monitoring military freqs started hearing the Darkstar callsign in the early 90's. ETA, Darkstar is now used as a callsign for AWAC. I was really into researching black projects / Area 71 stuff in the 90s and is when I first heard about Aurora. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P7ssFbqjbY. Falcon/Blackswift is another good rabbit hole |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:09:37 PM EST
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:18:21 PM EST
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:30:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lockheed Martin has had some very interesting and cryptic tweets recently regarding the dark star.. ...and every one of them is trolling to the "I want to believe" crowd. If you think major defense manufacturers are leaking/hinting the existence of TS/SAR high altitude ISR aircraft in movies and on social media, you need to put down the pipe. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:30:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What am I looking at here? Pilots don't wear glasses? BOB is an NFO. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:36:43 PM EST
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:37:57 PM EST
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The biggest bullshit of the movie was a Naval Aviator flying off into the sunset in a fucking P51 instead of an F4U Corsair!!!
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:42:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Supposed pic of RQ-180 from HERE https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/17506/mystery_uav-2752509.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Supposed pic of RQ-180 from HERE https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/17506/mystery_uav-2752509.jpg There's some really cool stuff out there about Tacit Blue as well, the Whale. I personally think Tacit Blue merged into Gorgon Stare |
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