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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:46:58 PM EST
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I remember from an old "aliens ufo files" type show they had recordings of radio traffic using experimental call sign "dark star" ivo Creech or one of those spooky areas. I think it ended up being the B2 or something.
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:05:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lockheed Martin has had some very interesting and cryptic tweets recently regarding the dark star.. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:10:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The biggest bullshit of the movie was a Naval Aviator flying off into the sunset in a fucking P51 instead of an F4U Corsair!!! Well, it is Tom's personal Mustang. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:14:16 PM EST
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Why would the Navy develop a land based hypersonic spy plane. Seems more like an airforce thing, amiright?
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:17:33 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would the Navy develop a land based hypersonic spy plane. Seems more like an airforce thing, amiright? Testing an aircraft from land removes a shitload of problems from the test program. Get it flying, then make it work from a carrier. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:18:36 PM EST
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Had dinner with a retiring aerospace engineer in 2007 who was working on engines capable of Mach 10.
That’s all he knew and all he could say. Might not look like the one in the film but bet on there one already flying. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:20:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Testing an aircraft from land removes a shitload of problems from the test program. Get it flying, then make it work from a carrier. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why would the Navy develop a land based hypersonic spy plane. Seems more like an airforce thing, amiright? Testing an aircraft from land removes a shitload of problems from the test program. Get it flying, then make it work from a carrier.  I imagine you expect it to land back on the deck afterwards too? That thing would have an approach speed of about 250 knots.... minimum. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:26:07 PM EST
[#8]
As I understand it , blowing the roof off the guard shack wasn't intentional but a happy accident .
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:31:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As I understand it , blowing the roof off the guard shack wasn't intentional but a happy accident . On some podcast where they were discussing it someone said something alongside the lines of. “Oh shit, we could have cut Ed Harris’s head off!” |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:33:36 PM EST
[#10]
Looks as gay as the first one
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:36:39 PM EST
[#11]
I really liked the music they used.
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:37:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It felt like a weird intersection of product placement and trolling to me. “We can’t have the F-35C be the star airplane, but we can do this.”  That said, whenever I think about that scene this is the song that comes to mind. Perhaps someday someone will edit the 2 together.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0-7fg8oAO4They filmed all of the Top Gun 'pilots' in the back seat of an F-18 so their facial expressions could accurately depict g forces. F-35C has no back seat and they probably didn't want cameras in the cockpit. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:40:40 PM EST
[#13]
Talk to me Goose
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:42:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The biggest bullshit of the movie was a Naval Aviator flying off into the sunset in a fucking P51 instead of an F4U Corsair!!! There are Probably 10 times the Mustangs flying than Corsairs. Plus Cruise owns that P-51 |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 9:49:55 PM EST
[#15]
It's a cool sequence but it didn't really fit storywise.
The movie starts with the iconic carrier launch sequence but then immediately moves to Maverick in his hangar so it's a jarring juxtaposition. If you look at the original, its approach made more sense since the carrier launch transitions to Maverick/Goose in the air. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 10:57:24 PM EST
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The movies a masterpiece followup to the original. Anyone who disagrees is wrong and stupid...
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Posted: 3/19/2023 11:03:26 PM EST
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The funny part is that probably happened in the mid 90s when that tech was new. But then again a white tic tac uav randomly moving a Mach Jesus in random direction doesn't make for good cinematography.
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Posted: 3/19/2023 11:09:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The biggest bullshit of the movie was a Naval Aviator flying off into the sunset in a fucking P51 instead of an F4U Corsair!!! Why a Corsair when he can fly the plane he owns? |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 11:14:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was kinda cool until the part where he survived ejection at Mach 10 with not so much a scratch. not true. His hair was seriously mussed up and he had dust everywhere. I love the darkstar sequence, it was a good lead in I thought. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 11:25:02 PM EST
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Has anyone explained why he starts to go into a turn at mach 10, instead of just flying straight?
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Posted: 3/19/2023 11:33:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That sequence was the one part of the whole movie I had a hard time with lol. Mostly the ejection part. There's a lot of "it's in the script" i'm ok with for a fun movie but at some point when you start really just throwing all physics out the window I just kind of roll my eyes lol. The F14 sequence was awesome. I was so happy they did it. While watching I knew it was pure cheese and nostalgia, but I loved it. Brought a tear to my eye, for 14 year old me. Had to covertly wipe my eyes before the lights came back on. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 12:27:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has anyone explained why he starts to go into a turn at mach 10, instead of just flying straight? Probably so he didn't run out of CONUS airspace and the base tracking him or overflying population centers. Keep in mind at Mach10 he was doing over 7,500MPH. And it probably wasn't a "sharp" turn, the SR-71 needed about 145 miles to make a 180 at speed, and this fictional plane was supposedly going 3 times as fast. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 12:51:12 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryAw man, I totally forgot about that movie....adding to watch list...
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Posted: 3/20/2023 1:27:40 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The sharp turn as he approaches Mach 10 was also a bit stupid. The F14 sequence was awesome. I was so happy they did it. While watching I knew it was pure cheese and nostalgia, but I loved it. Brought a tear to my eye, for 14 year old me. Had to covertly wipe my eyes before the lights came back on. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 2:53:50 AM EST
[#25]
Top Gun II = Star Wars I
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Posted: 3/20/2023 8:34:33 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The biggest bullshit of the movie was a Naval Aviator flying off into the sunset in a fucking P51 instead of an F4U Corsair!!! Yeah, uhm...which of Uncle Sam's airplanes someone flew is not a limitation for which private or museum owned aircraft that person is able to own or fly. Ahem. https://www.airforceheritageflight.org/news/2022/04/20/meet-the-pilot-bruce-doc-winter/ |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 8:34:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...and every one of them is trolling to the "I want to believe" crowd. If you think major defense manufacturers are leaking/hinting the existence of TS/SAR high altitude ISR aircraft in movies and on social media, you need to put down the pipe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lockheed Martin has had some very interesting and cryptic tweets recently regarding the dark star.. ...and every one of them is trolling to the "I want to believe" crowd. If you think major defense manufacturers are leaking/hinting the existence of TS/SAR high altitude ISR aircraft in movies and on social media, you need to put down the pipe.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 8:37:02 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As I understand it , blowing the roof off the guard shack wasn't intentional but a happy accident . Created in the studio using CGI. This is the raw footage of a Hornet that the movie footage was created over the top of, and as you can see the guard shack is perfectly intact.  FA-18 Low Pass for Top Gun Maverick  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 9:08:57 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks as gay as the first one |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:09:42 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, uhm...which of Uncle Sam's airplanes someone flew is not a limitation for which private or museum owned aircraft that person is able to own or fly. Ahem. https://www.airforceheritageflight.org/news/2022/04/20/meet-the-pilot-bruce-doc-winter/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The biggest bullshit of the movie was a Naval Aviator flying off into the sunset in a fucking P51 instead of an F4U Corsair!!! Yeah, uhm...which of Uncle Sam's airplanes someone flew is not a limitation for which private or museum owned aircraft that person is able to own or fly. Ahem. https://www.airforceheritageflight.org/news/2022/04/20/meet-the-pilot-bruce-doc-winter/ I must be the wrong kind of doctor. I can’t afford that cool shit |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:21:20 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I imagine you expect it to land back on the deck afterwards too? That thing would have an approach speed of about 250 knots.... minimum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why would the Navy develop a land based hypersonic spy plane. Seems more like an airforce thing, amiright? Testing an aircraft from land removes a shitload of problems from the test program. Get it flying, then make it work from a carrier. I imagine you expect it to land back on the deck afterwards too? That thing would have an approach speed of about 250 knots.... minimum. To me, the Darkstar was the most unrealistic aspect of the movie. Not the plane itself, or the fact that Maverick could survive a Mach 10 ejection... But the fact that the USAF would allow the Navy to conduct such a program? No fuckin way. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:24:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I must be the wrong kind of doctor. I can’t afford that cool shit Indeed. In the name of equity, we must all be given our own Mustang and a well endowed operating/maintenance/insurance costs fund. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:27:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed. In the name of equity, we must all be given our own Mustang and a well endowed operating/maintenance/insurance costs fund. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I must be the wrong kind of doctor. I can’t afford that cool shit Indeed. In the name of equity, we must all be given our own Mustang and a well endowed operating/maintenance/insurance costs fund. Speaking of mustangs, this thing is at the warbird museum in Titusville. Apparently, the one at the museum is the only one left that's air worthy since it's been restored and is for sale  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:30:10 AM EST
[#34]
DARKSTAR JUDY JUDY, I'M GOING IN FOR GUNS!
  Going in for Guns - Dos Gringos |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:31:10 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, uhm...which of Uncle Sam's airplanes someone flew is not a limitation for which private or museum owned aircraft that person is able to own or fly. Ahem. https://www.airforceheritageflight.org/news/2022/04/20/meet-the-pilot-bruce-doc-winter/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The biggest bullshit of the movie was a Naval Aviator flying off into the sunset in a fucking P51 instead of an F4U Corsair!!! Yeah, uhm...which of Uncle Sam's airplanes someone flew is not a limitation for which private or museum owned aircraft that person is able to own or fly. Ahem. https://www.airforceheritageflight.org/news/2022/04/20/meet-the-pilot-bruce-doc-winter/ The Fighter Pilot Podcast late last year did an episode about the F4U. The guy who owned/flew it spent some time describing how he got qualified and insured to run the thing. Basically he had to get checked out on the P-51 first. There are no 2 seat F4U’s but there are 2 seat Mustangs. Moreover since there aren’t 2 seat Corsairs Maverick couldn’t fly off into the sunset with Penny in one. Never mind the fact that it was Cruise’s personal aircraft. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 11:43:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What they showed in the movie was cute and much too small to carry enough fuel to fly from ground to Mach 10. Unless it was propelled by some wacky thing like metallic hydrogen. If you’ve ever seen an SR-71 in person you can see that they are kinda big. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lockheed Martin has had some very interesting and cryptic tweets recently regarding the dark star.. What they showed in the movie was cute and much too small to carry enough fuel to fly from ground to Mach 10. Unless it was propelled by some wacky thing like metallic hydrogen. If you’ve ever seen an SR-71 in person you can see that they are kinda big. There's a cool YouTube channel I subscribe to, Sam Eckholm, and he went to Skunk Works and spoke with them about the Dark Star. Not a real jet. You can actually touch an SR-71 at the Cosmosphere in Hutchinson, KS. So very awesome the first time (and every time) I walk up and see that Black Bird. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 11:56:28 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The biggest bullshit of the movie was a Naval Aviator flying off into the sunset in a fucking P51 instead of an F4U Corsair!!!  Baa Baa Black Sheep Opening |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 12:14:06 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryThat one bothered the heck out of me. "You mean to tell me that when I graduated high school I could have applied to be a fighter pilot, even though I wore glasses?" I know... a RIO isn't flying the plane. But they're still subject to G-forces. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 4:02:33 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are no 2 seat F4U’s but there are 2 seat Mustangs. Moreover since there aren’t 2 seat Corsairs Maverick couldn’t fly off into the sunset with Penny in one. There are a handful of Corsairs that have jumpseats to give rides and somewhat concealed windows for the riders to look out. The one in the second photo with the dark blue tinted windows is very subtle. 
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Posted: 3/20/2023 4:13:03 PM EST
[#40]
Page two and on one has mentioned Jennifer Connelly yet
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Posted: 3/20/2023 4:15:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI can hear lead saying “5, you coming with us?” Dude took a minute.
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Posted: 3/20/2023 4:17:51 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a handful of Corsairs that have jumpseats to give rides and somewhat concealed windows for the riders to look out. The one in the second photo with the dark blue tinted windows is very subtle. https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-72ba823ad56d5176db05536ac65c08d6 https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/2800_opt_1/b4bb00137477637.620bfa8f33d3a.jpg Hmm, not very cinematic. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 7:07:32 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like how the young pilots come in and go "but we're the best, who is going to teach us" lol. The real best are the old dudes with thousands of hours. This us actually becoming more and more a problem as boomers retire/die. Too many yutes, not enough Elders sometimes |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 1:31:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like how the young pilots come in and go "but we're the best, who is going to teach us" lol. The real best are the old dudes with thousands of hours. The fighter community eats its own when they start to get a little too big for themselves. Even TOPGUN grads wouldn't find themselves saying that in public (even if they were thinking it in private). |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 2:09:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This us actually becoming more and more a problem as boomers retire/die. Too many yutes, not enough Elders sometimes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like how the young pilots come in and go "but we're the best, who is going to teach us" lol. The real best are the old dudes with thousands of hours. This us actually becoming more and more a problem as boomers retire/die. Too many yutes, not enough Elders sometimes |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 2:45:56 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The movies a masterpiece followup to the original. Anyone who disagrees is wrong and stupid... See GP100revs Post above yours. |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 2:47:21 AM EST
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Posted: 3/21/2023 3:58:50 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks as gay as the first one Sorry your Firebirds movie lost. 
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Posted: 3/21/2023 9:56:36 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess the movie did make the point that the newer generation is a lost cause? Brings in Maverick to teach, who only lasted a couple months as instructor originally. Basically the best pilot, but worst teacher imaginable. Proceeds to teach, but it's nothing more than showing the new recruits how good he is. Was there ever a scene where he taught anything? Then says they all suck and he'll do it himself. Also a real problem. I've known a few GenX who were of the mind "What? Me? I'm the best this outfit has left to teach/lead?" GenX being small, it was never going to be possible to pass on the same knowledge and skill in the same quantity that was present in the boomers, and there's only so much most millennials would ever be able to absorb and rise up early to. A demographic capability cliff that millenials/Genz will have to find their own way past. |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 12:57:23 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The biggest bullshit of the movie was a Naval Aviator flying off into the sunset in a fucking P51 instead of an F4U Corsair!!! |
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