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I was floored when I read that earlier.  Unbelievable, really, to have someone involved with this be a descendent of Isidor and Ida Straus.

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I also heard that the search area was "half a Belgium"

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Yeah the company where they should have bought their submersible from uses full Acrylic hulls. They have a few models that could make it down to the Titanic. Pretty interesting that they would decide to try to make their own rather than get one of these or have one built


https://tritonsubs.com/subs/ultradeep/

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How do you feel if a boat full of refugees capsizes and the refugees drown? How does most of this website feel?

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That guys youtube page only has 2 vids in 8 years.

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How much cheaper would 7 small tanks cost vs. The H tank option.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if their co2 scrubber was 3 ferns in the back.

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There's been an undercurrent of class envy in this thread for a long time.

It's one thing to hate people for being stupid or arrogant; it's quite another to hate them for being wealthy.

There was at least one screenshot where some leftist had written an article pearl-clutching about the CEO's conservative leanings and political donations. We expect such from the left; our own side should act better.

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I wish Communists, Socialists, Marxists, Despots, Fascists, Child Sex Predators, Gun Grabbers, and Authoritarians dead.

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A lesson I learned from the owner of a company I worked for a while back: You can tell how much a business values its customers by looking at their bathrooms.  
The skipper here had the customers on a bucket with ziplock baggies.

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C/e laminates are just about as good in compression (or can be). I'm still not sure why someone would want to build a sub out of it. Are subs really that weight critical?

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I have categorically rejected a lot of the speculation and sensationalized reporting based on a lack of details. My entire life I've been taught to ignore noise and focus on signal, and most news reporting is, well, noise.

But in the absence of any actual signal, it's hard to keep ignoring the noise, so I've sorted through the noise looking for clues. At this point, I believe that the mother ship has suspected since Sunday afternoon that the sub simply imploded due to material fatigue from being worked beyond its limits.

I also believe they've been tight-lipped about that, for the reasons you state. I have read thousands of posts here and dismissed them as peanut-gallery speculation (and they are, to be sure - that hasn't changed) on the assumption that surely there are more details known only to the mother ship and the rescuers. But those 'more details' simply aren't emerging now, and it's beginning to look like they never will. Because those other details apparently don't exist. I fear that I've been waiting on a 'rest of the story' that never existed.

I have hoped since day one of this that, at a minimum, the mother ship had at least an idea of where the sub was, a sonar ping or something, and once the rescuers were in place they'd be able to home in on that area and find the sub in minutes, or hours. But that hasn't happened. I have hoped that the mother ship had an operating theory about what went wrong and either a highly educated guess as to where the ship was or a well-informed suspicion that it had been destroyed due to catastrophic failure. But if that's true, we haven't been told yet.

I had hoped that the pictures shown with random cables sticking everywhere on the ship were prototype pictures. To some extent that hope was realized - it does look, based on the most recent evidence, like the last iteration of the design included some protection for the exterior cabling and other junk hanging off the ship. That's good. Obviously not good enough, though.

Again, all of this could be speculation. They may be quietly winching the sub to the surface with five living passengers in it right now. But I'll freely admit that my hopes to that end are pretty much gone now. I have hoped all along that we'd have more reason to hope as the search went on and more details were released. But that simply hasn't happened, and as time goes on I'm more and more convinced that they aren't releasing any more details because they simply don't have anything good to release. The only details they have to release would just make their incompetence and recklessness more obvious. So they're sitting on those until the lawsuits come.



(And again....the above is still peanut gallery level stuff. The people on site obviously know much more than we know. It may be that what they 'know' is simply the certainty of what the rest have been speculating all along)

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It’s not their wealth.
It’s their arrogance that comes from their wealth. The wealthiest person in any given room will almost always feel like their options or vote should count the most.  
     I’m the wealthiest person amongst all my family and wife’s family by a pretty large margin.  I hate it, but it’s my default stance when I’m anround them.  I have to remind myself at get togethers etc not to be that Dick.   I grew up dirt poor, so I remember what it was like having people dismiss my ideas.
 That helps me fight the urge and stay humble.
Let’s not even pretend like I’m anybody though. Im a big fish in an extremely tiny pond.  What I’ve earned in life is not even a drop of piss in a bucket for the world these billionaires live in.
         
       It’s human psychology.  Rich = the adult who knows best amongst the poor helpless children.   Look no further than our government as an example.

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What's disgusting is the amount of resources and money wasted. Hope their estates get hit with full bill. The average US Citizen will be bankrupted by a life flight ride to their nearest ER when they get t-boned by a drunk illegal.

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I would not be surprised if a U.S.N. Sub was there with a towed array. But I doubt that would ever be made public.