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I appreciate having the opportunity to speak to members of this forum. Troy Asymmetric, part of the “World of Troy,” is a business entity with a director who until this past week, held exclusive hiring authority.  I am its owner, it bears my name and as we have witnessed in recent days, effects public opinion of all Troy divisions. Earlier this week, I terminated an instructor who did not support the Second Amendment as ardently as I and members of the community do.

Troy Asymmetric provides training to military and law enforcement personnel.  If you spend 5 seconds on the website you’ll see a graphical depiction of a bomb explosion - the primary focus of the company.  Take a moment to read the course list and you’ll note a common theme: training pertaining to explosions, bomb threats, post-blast crime scenes, incident command and crisis management.  Instructors’ primary areas of expertise lie in the “bomb world,” with EOD experience, critical incident response, and tactical decision making.  Some posters on the forum have said we only train “Jack Booted Thugs” and there is a secret agenda. These same posters conveniently ignore Troy Prepared: www.troyprepared.com. Troy Asymmetric to this date has offered no firearms training for Gov’t and LE, but in comparison, Troy Prepared has always offered firearms training to qualified civilians.  From a factual, non-emotional context, it is impossible to draw the conclusion that we somehow do not support the Second Amendment and are only training “secret army”.

On August 22, 1992, Dale was an HRT Operator tasked to a mission in which he found himself facing armed adversaries. His thoughts were not only on the situation at hand, but the tragic death of a child and a U.S. Marshal. During this type of confrontation when people die, you don’t have the ability to pick sides, they are drawn before you arrive. Dale did what he was trained to do as a sniper / observer.  He was fortunate not to have to take a life at this engagement. Special Agent Horiuchi made the regrettable shot, a mistake for which he will never be forgiven.  Of the FBI Agents assigned to the Ruby Ridge tragedy, Dale has been one of the most outspoken. He has delivered dozens of presentations to more than 1000 civilians titled “Mistakes and Lessons of Ruby Ridge”.  I weighed carefully the decision whether or not to retain Dale and could find no ethical or moral reason to remove him.  Dale has not committed a criminal act, he answered all questions honestly, he did not cover anything up and he did not shoot anyone at Ruby Ridge. Dale was asked to join TA for his critical incident management expertise. Dale was never slated by TA for firearms instruction.

We all know from our biggest failures come the greatest lessons in life.  Providing training that is relevant with experienced, qualified instructors can prevent a tragedy like Ruby Ridge. Dale will be able to deliver this powerful message and lessons learned in crisis management and incident command.  I am driven and passionate about bringing effective change through pertinent training and speakers that have lived through these nightmares. Many times I have seen posts in forums that state “if you weren’t there then SDASTFU”, with that same school of thought, there is no one better than Dale to speak about tragedies like Ruby Ridge.

I have been a longtime and outspoken supporter of the Second Amendment.  I always choose to do what’s right, even if my stance goes against others opinion.  I will not throw this man to the wolves as he has demonstrated throughout his life high integrity and honor.  I know most of those who would disagree are using this forum to voice your anger towards the United States Government. In some cases that anger is justified. The Ruby Ridge tragedy and the loss of life there make no bigger example of abuse of power and Government gone wrong.  However, I disagree with your personal attacks on my family and company as we are not the Government and we are not training “Jack Booted Thugs”.  I am a patriot and I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of The United States, all of it. Those who have taken that same oath recognize the importance of keeping it. Thank you.  -Steve Troy

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Really, a sub MOA shooter and sub MOA gun shot the wrong person? That must take some incredible mental agility to believe.

He must have really sucked if its true.

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Have BCM, LaRue, or Noveske said anything publicly on the subject yet?

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Actually you have a lot of that wrong.

Weaver was arrested by US Marshals posing as stranded motorists on the NFA charge.

Weaver told them the next time they tried to arrest him there would be blood spilled.

He never planned to attend the court hearing, told them as much. Wrong date and warrant thing only fueled his paranoia (don't blame him)

US Attorneys office hired Weaver his own lawyer. Offered to negotiate his surrender, he refused.

Vicki Weaver then starts sending letters to the local newspapers and US Attorneys office basically saying come up here on the mountain and get Randy if you have the balls.

Newspapers start going with why is is the white racist guy with outstanding warrants not being arrested putting pressure on US Attorney.

US Attorney sends US Marshals up on the mountain to install surveillance devices not engage anyone.

Then the shooting happened.

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If you really want someone to be upset with, ask why Kevin G. Miles (Directory of Troy Asymmetric and Troy Prepared) hired both Weis and Monroe.

Mr. Miles has strange taste in employees.

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Lets get Goatboy. Lets get him

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"5. The position of Vicki Weaver. Horiuchi claims he
was unaware that Mrs. Weaver was standing behind the door when he shot through it at Harris. Yet again, Horiuchi's testi- mony on this point has been less than consistent. Horiuchi tes- tified that, when he fired at Harris, he thought someone else might be standing behind the door, because Harris"was trying to hold the door open or moving somebody out of the way." Id. at 108. Other witnesses, too, contradict Horiuchi's claim. Sara Weaver testified that the curtain on the door was open, see Preliminary Hearing Testimony at 21, and so Horiuchi could have seen her mother through the glass pane on the door. Both Sara and Randy Weaver testified that, after the first shot, Vicki Weaver came onto the porch and called out,and so Horiuchi could have seen or heard her. See id. at 10, 92. Of course, there is evidence that supports Horiuchi's ver- sion as well. But there remain disputed facts on this issue. If Horiuchi shot through the door knowing, or having reason to believe, someone else was standing behind it, then his second shot could not be deemed reasonable."

Option A:  It was an accidental shooting, Horiuchi could not see through the door.
Option B: It was an accidental shooting, Horiuchi could see Vicki but did not plan to kill her
Option C: It was an intentional shooting, Horiuchi could see Vicki and planned to kill her.

Result:  FBI used her death to mock, humiliate and traumatize her husband and her children.  They intentionally FLAUNTED her death as a badge of honor for them.  A coup.  A successful completion of of intentional action.

Where is the offer of a cease-fire?  Where is the attempt to send in medical care for Vicki?  The direct intervention of MONROE who KNEW or CLAIMED it was an accidental shooting to DIRECTLY intercede on her behalf and prevent her death?

Crickets from Monroe.

TRG

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Lets get Goatboy. Lets get him

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The Department of Justice Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) Ruby Ridge Task Force Report (June 10, 1994) stated in section I. Executive Summary subhead B. Significant Findings that the second shot did not satisfy constitutional standards for legal use of deadly force.

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WTF is this about and where did this start.  im lost.

cliff notes for someone who just found this 24 pg thread that started last night who doesnt understand what TROYs invovlement is and how it started?

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People wondering why Monroe won't come out and speak contrary to his sworn statements are pretty naive.