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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:11:32 PM EDT
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"Pot" legalization will likely cost Pharma companies billions per year. Just think of all the people now addicted to highly dangerous benzos and opioids, etc who could switch to non-physically addictive (and cheaper?) Marijuana. Oklahoma's legalization was opposed by a nice (even) half a million dollar grant to a newly founded 501c, wonder where that money came from? CBD oil is a God send to lots of people. CBD oil was legalized in Oklahoma 2015 Katie and Cayman's Law (named after children whom the law was targeted at helping), but with no legal way to obtain it people have been illegally smuggling it from out of state for years now. What a mess. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:15:34 PM EDT
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Dopeheads are called that for a reason. Legal pot has no redeeming results. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:23:08 PM EDT
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It’s inevitable should go ahead and do it, no one is harmed by a plant that’s been around forever
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:28:25 PM EDT
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Weed prohibition is retared, and I personally hate the shit.
Trump should capitalize on the legalization movement, and also, if he wants to kill the Dems grip on minorities, blanket pardon and expunge all weed convictions in the US. It would be like Christmas for the party and the plantation would shatter for good. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:30:07 PM EDT
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Like we need more stoned idiots running around loose. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:33:07 PM EDT
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In “modern times” (post 1970) most of the time when people refer to dope or dopeheads they are referring to hard drugs. Not a guy that smokes a joint once or twice a week. I’ve seen people do far worse things to themselves and others under the influence of doctor prescribed pills compared to people under the influence of weed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dopeheads are called that for a reason. Legal pot has no redeeming results. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:42:16 PM EDT
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Conservative states are about 50/50 on the subject and are moving towards legalization.
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:46:57 PM EDT
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It's inevitable should go ahead and do it, no one is harmed by a plant that's been around forever Oleanders have been around forever. Castor beans have been around forever. Azaleas have been around forever. Manchineel trees been around forever. Nightshade plants been around forever. All will kill you is consumed in sufficient quantities. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 10:59:02 PM EDT
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All will kill you is consumed in sufficient quantities. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's inevitable should go ahead and do it, no one is harmed by a plant that's been around forever 
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:00:35 PM EDT
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If Trump legalized weed AND built a wall, it'd drain the Democratic voting base so hard, this country would be bleeding red for decades to come.
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:01:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Marijuana won't Never say 'never'. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:02:53 PM EDT
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He should push for federal deregulation and allow states to ban if they so desire. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:02:53 PM EDT
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if he is smart he will do just that...
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:04:42 PM EDT
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If you drink enough water it can kill you. Never say 'never'. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Marijuana won't Never say 'never'. ...It's physically impossible. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:07:35 PM EDT
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Dopeheads are called that for a reason. Legal pot has no redeeming results. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:10:10 PM EDT
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He should push for federal deregulation and allow states to ban if they so desire. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:10:51 PM EDT
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What kind of schmoe uses 'motherfuckin' in mixed company, on TV, in the Oval Office? Now I know I don't like the guy. Now I know I don't like the guy. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:12:10 PM EDT
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Agreed. Like we need more socially disengaged and brain dead people in this country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dopeheads are called that for a reason. Legal pot has no redeeming results. Also many seem to have no idea what the effects of marijuana are. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:15:10 PM EDT
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So swing voters are pot heads? It makes sense now why they can't pick of 2 people to vote for. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:21:48 PM EDT
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I would advise to push for it to be up to the individual states (the defacto situation on the ground now). Everybody happy President Trump could even leave it alone and win but the one thing that just might cost him the election however is a big anti weed push. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I mean if Trump wanted to guarantee a major win in 2020, he should push for legalization. Thoughts? President Trump could even leave it alone and win but the one thing that just might cost him the election however is a big anti weed push. Are the drug Prohibitionist crowd much of a factor? To the point they’d sit out an election or vote for a Dem? I doubt it. Trump’s already shown low regard for international treaties, and the UN in general; attacking Cannabis’s position on the UNODC schedules would be a natural extension of that. There’s plenty of reason to take it off Schedule 4 already - and arguments supporting a move to schedule 2 from 1. It would still be a prescription drug, but open it up to a shitload more research. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:22:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Marijuana won't Like, that would be groovy, man. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:25:55 PM EDT
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Laws are not stopping pot smokers, just putting people in prison for having a plant.
Trump should just let states decide and be done with it. Tax the shit out of it and call it a day. Do we not like freedom?? If pot is banned are we truly free?? Democrats ban guns and we ban a damn plant. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:26:38 PM EDT
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Here's a redeeming result: people not being locked in a cage or killed for possessing the wrong plant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dopeheads are called that for a reason. Legal pot has no redeeming results. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:27:51 PM EDT
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Legalization/Deregulation would definitely be looked favorably in the black community as they are more likely to get busted for drugs. Think it would be a HUGE win for the Trumpster.
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:43:57 PM EDT
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I agree with you. It is also President Trump’s position. He is of the belief that it is a 10th amendment issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He should push for federal deregulation and allow states to ban if they so desire. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:46:00 PM EDT
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This next glass of Tito's is raised to the end of all federal prohibition.
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:46:40 PM EDT
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He should push for federal deregulation and allow states to ban if they so desire. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:46:50 PM EDT
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Opium poppies have been around forever. Oleanders have been around forever. Castor beans have been around forever. Azaleas have been around forever. Manchineel trees been around forever. Nightshade plants been around forever. All will kill you is consumed in sufficient quantities. IDGAF about pot, but i do GAF about about free choice and political capital. |
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Posted: 10/11/2018 11:47:19 PM EDT
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This next glass of Tito's is raised to the end of all federal prohibition. 
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:09:13 AM EDT
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You want to know how to ensure Trump is NOT re-elected?
This.... The Left will NEVER vote for him not matter what he does. The Far Right will stay home or primary him if he does this. If he pushes for legalization......he's a one term president. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:12:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:14:20 AM EDT
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Overbearing assholes who like to tell others how to live their life have no redeeming value either. It's a states rights issue, and I would think most here would support it on those grounds. Forgot though that many here adore big brother as long as he isn't touching their sacred cow. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:15:42 AM EDT
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You want to know how to ensure Trump is NOT re-elected? This.... The Left will NEVER vote for him not matter what he does. The Far Right will stay home or primary him if he does this. If he pushes for legalization......he's a one term president. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:17:19 AM EDT
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You want to know how to ensure Trump is NOT re-elected? This.... The Left will NEVER vote for him not matter what he does. The Far Right will stay home or primary him if he does this. If he pushes for legalization......he's a one term president. And, if he starts with an attack on the WHO and UNODC, it will appeal to a broad swath of both. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:17:52 AM EDT
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It's a no brainer. Full legalization is inevitable and would bring over swing voters. I don’t care one way or the other as I don’t partake, but the writing is on the wall. The people want it, the feds don’t need to be regulating it, and it will be deregulated in my lifetime. I don’t see trump going that route, but I think it would be a smart move if he did. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:23:00 AM EDT
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I would advise to push for it to be up to the individual states (the defacto situation on the ground now). Everybody happy President Trump could even leave it alone and win but the one thing that just might cost him the election however is a big anti weed push. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I mean if Trump wanted to guarantee a major win in 2020, he should push for legalization. Thoughts? President Trump could even leave it alone and win but the one thing that just might cost him the election however is a big anti weed push. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:27:00 AM EDT
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I'm not a pot guy, but I agree with this. It's coming, it's going to happen. Some states have the tip in, no way to walk that back. I think it is foolish to lose elections over it at this point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I mean if Trump wanted to guarantee a major win in 2020, he should push for legalization. Thoughts? President Trump could even leave it alone and win but the one thing that just might cost him the election however is a big anti weed push. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:27:51 AM EDT
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I'm not a pot guy, but I agree with this. It's coming, it's going to happen. Some states have the tip in, no way to walk that back. I think it is foolish to lose elections over it at this point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I mean if Trump wanted to guarantee a major win in 2020, he should push for legalization. Thoughts? President Trump could even leave it alone and win but the one thing that just might cost him the election however is a big anti weed push. because of it here. Fuck their California values..... |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:33:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not really about existing polarized voters. It’s about non-voters or cynical middle of the roaders. And, if he starts with an attack on the WHO and UNODC, it will appeal to a broad swath of both. It wouldn't take much to tip the balance. The Democrats will be coming for blood in 2020 and if he alienates a key part of his base, he'll lose. They will just stay home. As much as the dope pushing Socially Left Liberaltarians on this site think they are the masses, there are still enough conservatives/religious people in this country to make a big difference in the election. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:40:09 AM EDT
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Overbearing assholes who like to tell others how to live their life have no redeeming value either. It's a states rights issue, and I would think most here would support it on those grounds. Forgot though that many here adore big brother as long as he isn't touching their sacred cow. See how easy that was. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 12:54:47 AM EDT
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People that actually need opioids for their level of pain generally don't get enough relief from marijuana. I know my sister didn't. Her relief came when she died. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Pot" legalization will likely cost Pharma companies billions per year. Just think of all the people now addicted to highly dangerous benzos and opioids, etc who could switch to non-physically addictive (and cheaper?) Marijuana. Oklahoma's legalization was opposed by a nice (even) half a million dollar grant to a newly founded 501c, wonder where that money came from? CBD oil is a God send to lots of people. CBD oil was legalized in Oklahoma 2015 Katie and Cayman's Law (named after children whom the law was targeted at helping), but with no legal way to obtain it people have been illegally smuggling it from out of state for years now. What a mess. Then these poor people end up taking Benzos to help deal with their anxiety over their unmitigated pain, and they die in their sleep. (because you stop breathing on the combo) Seen that happen too. I'm not saying Marijuana is a cure all, but CBD oil is some no-shit amazing stuff. And Marijuana could replace Benzos, easily. People who are in pain need more options. ETA: Note the current opioid epidemic fueled by decades of doctors handing out Hydrocodone like it was candy. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 2:17:47 AM EDT
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Umm, he would lose an important part of his voter base. It wouldn't take much to tip the balance. The Democrats will be coming for blood in 2020 and if he alienates a key part of his base, he'll lose. They will just stay home. As much as the dope pushing Socially Left Liberaltarians on this site think they are the masses, there are still enough conservatives/religious people in this country to make a big difference in the election. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It’s not really about existing polarized voters. It’s about non-voters or cynical middle of the roaders. And, if he starts with an attack on the WHO and UNODC, it will appeal to a broad swath of both. It wouldn't take much to tip the balance. The Democrats will be coming for blood in 2020 and if he alienates a key part of his base, he'll lose. They will just stay home. As much as the dope pushing Socially Left Liberaltarians on this site think they are the masses, there are still enough conservatives/religious people in this country to make a big difference in the election. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 6:03:46 AM EDT
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Yes he should. Kanye in a MAGA hat and federally legal weed? Dems won't be able to touch him in 2020.
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Posted: 10/12/2018 6:16:34 AM EDT
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never messed with the stuff but its a plant. there is no reason for it to be illegal.
I would support Trump legalizing it as it would directly undercut his only real challenger, Bernie. The is a good chance RBG of dropping dead in the next 6 years, that alone is worth it. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 7:12:52 AM EDT
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He should:
Mention it's a states issue Spin it in with the prison reform narrative to let them think it might expand to other drugs Then say he's going to "come up with a plan" for these things right before the election But then take his time doing it. I don't think it will garner many votes, and it may rile up some nevertrumpers that are about to stop being retards. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 7:24:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Democrat and Independent Governor candidates in Kansas are both pushing it and they are both going to lose because of it here. Fuck their California values..... What is right for Kansas is not what is right for Commifornia. You agree with that yes? Those guys are miscalculating what the people of Kansas want in their state. But that doesn't mean other states won't have people that would vote for it (WI would). States rights is MORE freedom for everybody, not less. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 7:26:43 AM EDT
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Like we need more stoned idiots running around loose. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 7:31:09 AM EDT
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People that actually need opioids for their level of pain generally don't get enough relief from marijuana. I know my sister didn't. Her relief came when she died. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 7:31:20 AM EDT
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People that actually need opioids for their level of pain generally don't get enough relief from marijuana. I know my sister didn't. Her relief came when she died. Why wouldn't we want people to have options that aren't addictive. On that note, since we have legal alcohol and people drink for purely recreational reasons....why would we not want people would would rather use pot (which is less bad for people) to go that way instead of become alcoholics? I just do not get it. Legalize it and be done with this dumbass argument. This is supposed to be the land of the free, not the land of possession crimes. |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 7:32:39 AM EDT
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Opium poppies have been around forever. Oleanders have been around forever. Castor beans have been around forever. Azaleas have been around forever. Manchineel trees been around forever. Nightshade plants been around forever. All will kill you is consumed in sufficient quantities. |
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