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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:05:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the issue. Maybe they were allowed "access," but not meaningful access. Which is what I believe they are suing over. Sure, they were let into a building, but kept away from the counting. It's also humorous that ANYONE would prop up a Bush appointee for judge as some arbiter for the right. We all know what a right-wing zealot Roberts has been.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ummmm.... last I checked numerous cases have been filed. Hell, in Pennsylvania, Trump's lawyers had suggested their poll observers had been shut out of the locations where ballots were being counted. So when the lawyers then got caught lying by the judge and acknowledged that the observers had, in fact, been permitted within 15 feet of the poll workers, U.S. District Judge Paul Diamond, appointed by then-President George W. Bush, appeared baffled and flat out said the following. "I'm asking you, as a member of the bar of this court, are people representing Donald J. Trump for president, representing the plaintiff, in that room?" Judge Paul Diamond, asked. Trump's Attorney answered, "Yes." Judge Paul Diamond responded with "I'm sorry, then what's your problem?" Not quite following you.........walk 15 feet away from a ballot sized piece of paper with a box checked the size of a Biden or Trump box on a typical ballot and tell me if you can see which one is filled in VERY quickly because they don't hold it there for you for seconds in order for you to get your binoculars out to see it. That's the issue. Maybe they were allowed "access," but not meaningful access. Which is what I believe they are suing over. Sure, they were let into a building, but kept away from the counting. It's also humorous that ANYONE would prop up a Bush appointee for judge as some arbiter for the right. We all know what a right-wing zealot Roberts has been. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:05:32 AM EDT
[#2]
Did they do it ?? Did we win?? Didnt read 20+ pages.
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:07:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is like that. But then you go and call the cops for a DV and claim that she beat you. When all she did was flash you the phone. I wonder if that might be the reason Trump let those attorneys resign? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:07:57 AM EDT
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I saw the article about the latest lawyer switch on Politico last night.
With so many changes, it has just become white noise. Wake me up when something happens. ETA - Politico or The Hill...can't remember. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:09:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they do it ?? Did we win?? Didnt read 20+ pages. Bombshell soon! 2 weeks and we have the White House again! Click follow and retweet. Signup for the newsletter and donation link to stop the deep state! |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:22:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were caught red handed inflating their claim. That is a major issue on establishing credibility. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Left unsaid is that there were (a) several other locations where they were, in fact, shut out completely and (b) they were not permitted to be in close enough proximity to verify the validity of the ballot. Being in the room doesn't count for shit. Being able to perform the function is the only criteria that can be used. That's it. This is RICH. RICH, I tell you. I see you've decided to slither out of the shadows again and you're back to your usual bullshit. So, if one person on the Right exaggerates, then they're caught red-handed, lost all credibility, have no case, must give-up, must submit yada yada yada. Where do you even get the BALLS? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:28:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya know I didn't even think about that. Ma-thur-fucker.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hey now, maybe a 7% error rate *is* the best it's ever been Ma-thur-fucker. Even government standards require a 95% success rate for everything!! anything!!! I guess another 2% safety buffer, just in case, ain't bad. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:29:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just saw a TV commercial advertising that there was no voter fraud. Wow. shareholder capitalism |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 11:35:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think WaPo is bad now... Bezos is about to buy CNN. We are going to see super bullshit in print and on screen. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Brad Heath, Reuters journo, just happens to be a contributor to the World Economic Forum. He's a communist. Fuck him, fuck whatever dumbass made-up source he got that made-up bullshit from (probably WaPo, /again/). The "most PA lawyers quit" bullshit was proven false 36 hours ago. You think WaPo is bad now... Bezos is about to buy CNN. We are going to see super bullshit in print and on screen.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 12:45:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is RICH. RICH, I tell you. I see you've decided to slither out of the shadows again and you're back to your usual bullshit. So, if one person on the Right exaggerates, then they're caught red-handed, lost all credibility, have no case, must give-up, must submit yada yada yada. Where do you even get the BALLS? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Left unsaid is that there were (a) several other locations where they were, in fact, shut out completely and (b) they were not permitted to be in close enough proximity to verify the validity of the ballot. Being in the room doesn't count for shit. Being able to perform the function is the only criteria that can be used. That's it. This is RICH. RICH, I tell you. I see you've decided to slither out of the shadows again and you're back to your usual bullshit. So, if one person on the Right exaggerates, then they're caught red-handed, lost all credibility, have no case, must give-up, must submit yada yada yada. Where do you even get the BALLS? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 3:55:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they do it ?? Did we win?? Didnt read 20+ pages. The hearing is ongoing right now. I got kicked off the dial-in just a few minutes ago. They're having technical difficulties. Thus far, however, the Trump's campaign argument has literally been Rudy Giuliani making a bunch of hyperbolic claims. He was challenged specifically on one exhibit he submitted in which it was claimed observers were so far away they had to use binoculars. The defense asked him to represent, as an officer of the court, that the exhibit is from Philadelphia County and Giuliani refused to do so. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 4:00:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The hearing is ongoing right now. I got kicked off the dial-in just a few minutes ago. They're having technical difficulties. Thus far, however, the Trump's campaign argument has literally been Rudy Giuliani making a bunch of hyperbolic claims. He was challenged specifically on one exhibit he submitted in which it was claimed observers were so far away they had to use binoculars. The defense asked him to represent, as an officer of the court, that the exhibit is from Philadelphia County and Giuliani refused to do so. Ugh. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 4:33:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ugh. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The hearing is ongoing right now. I got kicked off the dial-in just a few minutes ago. They're having technical difficulties. Thus far, however, the Trump's campaign argument has literally been Rudy Giuliani making a bunch of hyperbolic claims. He was challenged specifically on one exhibit he submitted in which it was claimed observers were so far away they had to use binoculars. The defense asked him to represent, as an officer of the court, that the exhibit is from Philadelphia County and Giuliani refused to do so. Ugh. They literally couldn't handle this case worse than if they were INTENTIONALLY trying to blow it. Rudy has no business being anywhere near a courtroom and has been out of practice with federal court procedure for years. And it shows. Badly. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 4:40:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The hearing is ongoing right now. I got kicked off the dial-in just a few minutes ago. They're having technical difficulties. Thus far, however, the Trump's campaign argument has literally been Rudy Giuliani making a bunch of hyperbolic claims. He was challenged specifically on one exhibit he submitted in which it was claimed observers were so far away they had to use binoculars. The defense asked him to represent, as an officer of the court, that the exhibit is from Philadelphia County and Giuliani refused to do so. Oof. I think at this point it's fair to say Trump is locked in the old-school-businessman mood, where you hire good guys and then they get it done. That's not a recipe for winning today. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 4:40:38 PM EDT
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Back on the call but the Judge hasn't returned yet.
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Posted: 11/17/2020 4:41:51 PM EDT
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So Rudy's point that the ballots could not be properly observed for verification purposes is invalid because they may have been close enough to use opera glasses vs binoculars to read them?
It was a dumb thing to say (idioms don't play well with humorless and hostile judges) but it's not like his point was refuted by him using that word. That tidbit seems like a "gotcha!" snippet someone trying to protray Rudy as incompetent would raise, when in reality it doesn't really budge the merits of tr argument/case. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:01:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The hearing is ongoing right now. I got kicked off the dial-in just a few minutes ago. They're having technical difficulties. Thus far, however, the Trump's campaign argument has literally been Rudy Giuliani making a bunch of hyperbolic claims. He was challenged specifically on one exhibit he submitted in which it was claimed observers were so far away they had to use binoculars. The defense asked him to represent, as an officer of the court, that the exhibit is from Philadelphia County and Giuliani refused to do so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did they do it ?? Did we win?? Didnt read 20+ pages. The hearing is ongoing right now. I got kicked off the dial-in just a few minutes ago. They're having technical difficulties. Thus far, however, the Trump's campaign argument has literally been Rudy Giuliani making a bunch of hyperbolic claims. He was challenged specifically on one exhibit he submitted in which it was claimed observers were so far away they had to use binoculars. The defense asked him to represent, as an officer of the court, that the exhibit is from Philadelphia County and Giuliani refused to do so. I thought they had several witnesses and affidavits proving that point? He should have been able to answer Mike Smith's affidavit is on page 235 and states he was pushed back 20 feet away from the ballot and told he would be kicked out if he moved any closer. That is the type of evidence Rudy, Kayleigh, Sidney and others have been claiming they had this whole time. Where is it? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:07:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They literally couldn't handle this case worse than if they were INTENTIONALLY trying to blow it. Rudy has no business being anywhere near a courtroom and has been out of practice with federal court procedure for years. And it shows. Badly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The hearing is ongoing right now. I got kicked off the dial-in just a few minutes ago. They're having technical difficulties. Thus far, however, the Trump's campaign argument has literally been Rudy Giuliani making a bunch of hyperbolic claims. He was challenged specifically on one exhibit he submitted in which it was claimed observers were so far away they had to use binoculars. The defense asked him to represent, as an officer of the court, that the exhibit is from Philadelphia County and Giuliani refused to do so. Ugh. They literally couldn't handle this case worse than if they were INTENTIONALLY trying to blow it. Rudy has no business being anywhere near a courtroom and has been out of practice with federal court procedure for years. And it shows. Badly. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They literally couldn't handle this case worse than if they were INTENTIONALLY trying to blow it. Rudy has no business being anywhere near a courtroom and has been out of practice with federal court procedure for years. And it shows. Badly. According to GD this is 6D chess to get to SCOTUS where the 6-3 Court will hand the President the election without a hearing |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:13:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So Rudy's point that the ballots could not be properly observed for verification purposes is invalid because they may have been close enough to use opera glasses vs binoculars to read them? It was a dumb thing to say (idioms don't play well with humorless and hostile judges) but it's not like his point was refuted by him using that word. That tidbit seems like a "gotcha!" snippet someone trying to protray Rudy as incompetent would raise, when in reality it doesn't really budge the merits of tr argument/case. He wouldn't say it happened at the location in question is how I read it. Rudy has been erratic at best lately. The crazy press conference, appearances on TV talking big with little to substantiate his claims and now this. Maybe it's time he takes a supervisory role. Razzle dazzle is good for getting the base all fired up but doesn't impress judges. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:17:13 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: According to GD this is 6D chess to get to SCOTUS where the 6-3 Court will hand the President the election without a hearing Also if you think it's over you're either a troll or a paid communist sympathizer lol |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:17:59 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought they had several witnesses and affidavits proving that point? He should have been able to answer Mike Smith's affidavit is on page 235 and states he was pushed back 20 feet away from the ballot and told he would be kicked out if he moved any closer. That is the type of evidence Rudy, Kayleigh, Sidney and others have been claiming they had this whole time. Where is it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did they do it ?? Did we win?? Didnt read 20+ pages. The hearing is ongoing right now. I got kicked off the dial-in just a few minutes ago. They're having technical difficulties. Thus far, however, the Trump's campaign argument has literally been Rudy Giuliani making a bunch of hyperbolic claims. He was challenged specifically on one exhibit he submitted in which it was claimed observers were so far away they had to use binoculars. The defense asked him to represent, as an officer of the court, that the exhibit is from Philadelphia County and Giuliani refused to do so. I thought they had several witnesses and affidavits proving that point? He should have been able to answer Mike Smith's affidavit is on page 235 and states he was pushed back 20 feet away from the ballot and told he would be kicked out if he moved any closer. That is the type of evidence Rudy, Kayleigh, Sidney and others have been claiming they had this whole time. Where is it? Maybe it was, just not in that twelve second snippet of the hearing Nope, gotta be he just abruptly dropped his sworn claims the observers were physically prevented from performing their duties, after being asked about binoculars. Trump is finished.
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:18:55 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Also if you think it's over you're either a troll or a paid communist sympathizer lol I'm trying to see where I said that but I'm coming up blank. Maybe you can provide evidence of tha |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:19:18 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He wouldn't say it happened at the location in question is how I read it. Rudy has been erratic at best lately. The crazy press conference, appearances on TV talking big with little to substantiate his claims and now this. Maybe it's time he takes a supervisory role. Razzle dazzle is good for getting the base all fired up but doesn't impress judges. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So Rudy's point that the ballots could not be properly observed for verification purposes is invalid because they may have been close enough to use opera glasses vs binoculars to read them? It was a dumb thing to say (idioms don't play well with humorless and hostile judges) but it's not like his point was refuted by him using that word. That tidbit seems like a "gotcha!" snippet someone trying to protray Rudy as incompetent would raise, when in reality it doesn't really budge the merits of tr argument/case. He wouldn't say it happened at the location in question is how I read it. Rudy has been erratic at best lately. The crazy press conference, appearances on TV talking big with little to substantiate his claims and now this. Maybe it's time he takes a supervisory role. Razzle dazzle is good for getting the base all fired up but doesn't impress judges. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:21:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is all so people donate to the Trump legal fund, which is in reality a Trump PAC and nothing more. Originally it was being used to pay off the campaign debt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So Rudy's point that the ballots could not be properly observed for verification purposes is invalid because they may have been close enough to use opera glasses vs binoculars to read them? It was a dumb thing to say (idioms don't play well with humorless and hostile judges) but it's not like his point was refuted by him using that word. That tidbit seems like a "gotcha!" snippet someone trying to protray Rudy as incompetent would raise, when in reality it doesn't really budge the merits of tr argument/case. He wouldn't say it happened at the location in question is how I read it. Rudy has been erratic at best lately. The crazy press conference, appearances on TV talking big with little to substantiate his claims and now this. Maybe it's time he takes a supervisory role. Razzle dazzle is good for getting the base all fired up but doesn't impress judges. You straight up sound like pundits in 2016 claiming he wasn't *really* running for president, just trying to build publicity for Trump TV |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:21:51 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm trying to see where I said that but I'm coming up blank. Maybe you can provide evidence of tha You never said that, many in GD have though. Hilarious |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:25:02 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He wouldn't say it happened at the location in question is how I read it. Rudy has been erratic at best lately. The crazy press conference, appearances on TV talking big with little to substantiate his claims and now this. Maybe it's time he takes a supervisory role. Razzle dazzle is good for getting the base all fired up but doesn't impress judges. People convinced of vote tampering listen to Rudy and then aren't convinced anymore....... Loyalty of all things is going to be Trump's downfall. Rudy was too far gone for these arguments 10 years ago. Hopefully the Kraken will do better. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:28:24 PM EDT
[#28]
I'm not sure if this is the same one...but according to The Hill, this was rebuffed already. 5-2
Maybe a different case? https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/526397-top-pennsylvania-court-rebuffs-trump-campaigns-vote-count-observation |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:29:32 PM EDT
[#29]
I've read several news articles describing how some of the other attorneys are exasperated with Rudy's behavior and his constant meddling with their otherwise very carefully crafted cases, like the proverbial bull in a china shop. He's obviously enjoying all the limelight and the cameras in his face. I think Trump made a big mistake putting him in charge of the whole thing.
As far as Powell..... well, jeez, man.... it's hard to believe she'd risk flushing her entire career and her pristine professional reputation down the toilet. The world wonders.... |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:34:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've read several news articles describing how some of the other attorneys are exasperated with Rudy's behavior and his constant meddling with their otherwise very carefully crafted cases, like the proverbial bull in a china shop. He's obviously enjoying all the limelight and the cameras in his face. I think Trump made a big mistake putting him in charge of the whole thing. Probably; Rudy is something of an ass, after all. But I suspect this palace intrigue is somewhat exaggerated, too. Reminds me strongly of the initial Team Trump drama being outright manufactured via "anonymous sources" in the early days of the administration, which most subsequently learned to ignore. Remember how we had multiple daily stories about all the infighting, incompetence, failure, betrayal, etc that were supposed to comprised the whole of the Trump cabinet? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:35:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You straight up sound like pundits in 2016 claiming he wasn't *really* running for president, just trying to build publicity for Trump TV Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So Rudy's point that the ballots could not be properly observed for verification purposes is invalid because they may have been close enough to use opera glasses vs binoculars to read them? It was a dumb thing to say (idioms don't play well with humorless and hostile judges) but it's not like his point was refuted by him using that word. That tidbit seems like a "gotcha!" snippet someone trying to protray Rudy as incompetent would raise, when in reality it doesn't really budge the merits of tr argument/case. He wouldn't say it happened at the location in question is how I read it. Rudy has been erratic at best lately. The crazy press conference, appearances on TV talking big with little to substantiate his claims and now this. Maybe it's time he takes a supervisory role. Razzle dazzle is good for getting the base all fired up but doesn't impress judges. You straight up sound like pundits in 2016 claiming he wasn't *really* running for president, just trying to build publicity for Trump TV Here's the fine print. Contributions to TMAGAC made by an Individual/Federal Multicandidate Political Committee will be allocated according to the following formula: 60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000, then to DJTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800/$5,000. 40% of each contribution to the RNC’s Operating account, up to a maximum of $35,500/$15,000. Any additional funds will go to the RNC for deposit in the RNC’s Legal Proceedings account or Headquarters account, up to a maximum of $213,000/$90,000. Contributions to Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. (“DJTFP”) are not tax deductible for federal income tax purposes. Funds received in response to this solicitation will be subject to federal source and amount limitations. Contributions from corporations, labor unions, federal contractors, and foreign nationals are prohibited. By donating through this page, you agree that your contribution to DJTFP will be allocated as follows (Multicandidate PAC amounts in parentheses): 50% of each contribution, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000), to be designated toward DJTFP’s 2020 general election account for general election debt retirement until such debt is retired. 50% of each contribution, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000), to be designated toward DJTFP’s Recount Account. Any amount that exceeds the applicable contribution limit for 2020 general election debt retirement, including any amounts donated to DJTFP after such debt has been retired, will be designated in full toward DJFTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000). Donations to DJTFP’s Recount Account will be used solely in connection with any post-election recounts and election contests and not for the purpose of influencing any federal election. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:37:21 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure if this is the same one...but according to The Hill, this was rebuffed already. 5-2 Maybe a different case? https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/526397-top-pennsylvania-court-rebuffs-trump-campaigns-vote-count-observation That's PA Supreme Court. The case in question is in Federal Court in the Middle District of Pennsylvania. Arguments are still ongoing. One of the defense attorneys for the Commonwealth has been blabbing for the last 45 minutes about how defective Trump's amended complaint is and that Giuliani couldn't address deficiencies in standing or lack of a justiciable claim. He's also been blasting Giuliani's preparation and compared him to a 1st year law student. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:38:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Screaming fraud where there is none to dupe people into donating. Class act. Best. President. Ever.
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:42:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's PA Supreme Court. The case in question is in Federal Court in the Middle District of Pennsylvania. Arguments are still ongoing. One of the defense attorneys for the Commonwealth has been blabbing for the last 45 minutes about how defective Trump's amended complaint is and that Giuliani couldn't address deficiencies in standing or lack of a justiciable claim. He's also been blasting Giuliani's preparation and compared him to a 1st year law student. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm not sure if this is the same one...but according to The Hill, this was rebuffed already. 5-2 Maybe a different case? https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/526397-top-pennsylvania-court-rebuffs-trump-campaigns-vote-count-observation That's PA Supreme Court. The case in question is in Federal Court in the Middle District of Pennsylvania. Arguments are still ongoing. One of the defense attorneys for the Commonwealth has been blabbing for the last 45 minutes about how defective Trump's amended complaint is and that Giuliani couldn't address deficiencies in standing or lack of a justiciable claim. He's also been blasting Giuliani's preparation and compared him to a 1st year law student. I'm sure he's got many, many successful mob prosecutions under his belt. Doesn't sound like he's actually refuting Rudy's claims, though, just attacking the man & the document in a bid to get them tossed out of hand. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:43:15 PM EDT
[#35]
Cat fight in GA
Georgia elections chief says Trump 'suppressed' GOP vote, cost himself state https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526395-georgia-elections-chief-says-trump-depressed-gop-vote-cost-himself-state |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:43:59 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cat fight in GA Georgia elections chief says Trump 'suppressed' GOP vote, cost himself state https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526395-georgia-elections-chief-says-trump-depressed-gop-vote-cost-himself-state |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ooooffff Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cat fight in GA Georgia elections chief says Trump 'suppressed' GOP vote, cost himself state https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526395-georgia-elections-chief-says-trump-depressed-gop-vote-cost-himself-state My statement from then. "When you vote doesn't really matter. Actually voting and who you vote for does. All the article says is more registered Democrats showed up to early voting which is what we would expect. You don't see Democrat leaders saying "only vote in person on Nov 3rd like God intended" like Republican leaders and people are." https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/PSA-go-VOTE--don-t-be-a-Moran-Last-chance-to-stop-tyranny--/5-2381908/?page=1 |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:47:50 PM EDT
[#38]
I've rarely heard opposing counsel blast a fellow attorney in federal court like this. Normally, by now, the Judge has stepped in or has at least asked counsel to calm down a bit. Now, with that said, the Judge also gave Giuliani extremely wide latitude to say whatever he wanted to say earlier in the hearing.
Nonetheless, it's pretty jarring to hear counsel absolutely berate someone like Giuliani, who actually used to be a respected attorney, multiple times in a hearing. I really can't say that Giuliani doesn't deserve it, though. He was totally unprepared and couldn't remember much of the existing case law -- including a lot of the RECENT court decisions that are involved in this case. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:50:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It wasn't just Trump, almost all Republican leaders were discouraging mail in voting and early voting. I was trying to warn people this could happen go back to at least Oct 23. My statement from then. "When you vote doesn't really matter. Actually voting and who you vote for does. All the article says is more registered Democrats showed up to early voting which is what we would expect. You don't see Democrat leaders saying "only vote in person on Nov 3rd like God intended" like Republican leaders and people are." https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/PSA-go-VOTE--don-t-be-a-Moran-Last-chance-to-stop-tyranny--/5-2381908/?page=1 "Angry cat ladies everywhere!" LOL... No one listened to you. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:52:18 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cat fight in GA Georgia elections chief says Trump 'suppressed' GOP vote, cost himself state https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526395-georgia-elections-chief-says-trump-depressed-gop-vote-cost-himself-state so GA has numbers to show 20K registered republicans that all voted in the last election but did not vote on Nov 3 2020? im having a hard time believing that. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:54:18 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It wasn't just Trump, almost all Republican leaders were discouraging mail in voting and early voting. I was trying to warn people this could happen go back to at least Oct 23. My statement from then. "When you vote doesn't really matter. Actually voting and who you vote for does. All the article says is more registered Democrats showed up to early voting which is what we would expect. You don't see Democrat leaders saying "only vote in person on Nov 3rd like God intended" like Republican leaders and people are." https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/PSA-go-VOTE--don-t-be-a-Moran-Last-chance-to-stop-tyranny--/5-2381908/?page=1 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cat fight in GA Georgia elections chief says Trump 'suppressed' GOP vote, cost himself state https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526395-georgia-elections-chief-says-trump-depressed-gop-vote-cost-himself-state My statement from then. "When you vote doesn't really matter. Actually voting and who you vote for does. All the article says is more registered Democrats showed up to early voting which is what we would expect. You don't see Democrat leaders saying "only vote in person on Nov 3rd like God intended" like Republican leaders and people are." https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/PSA-go-VOTE--don-t-be-a-Moran-Last-chance-to-stop-tyranny--/5-2381908/?page=1 |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:55:12 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure he's got many, many success mob prosecutions under his belt. Doesn't sound like he's actually refuting Rudy's claims, though, just attacking the man & the document in a bid to get them tossed out of hand. Ahh yes... The GD method. If I can't win the argument I'll offer my condolences about your girl. Bold strategy. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:56:02 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: so GA has numbers to show 20K registered republicans that all voted in the last election but did not vote on Nov 3 2020? im having a hard time believing that. I read that as in the primary....but I'm still lost. Volume didn't work, so I could not hear is exact words. Did they not vote at all? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:56:32 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It wasn't just Trump, almost all Republican leaders were discouraging mail in voting and early voting. I was trying to warn people this could happen go back to at least Oct 23. My statement from then. "When you vote doesn't really matter. Actually voting and who you vote for does. All the article says is more registered Democrats showed up to early voting which is what we would expect. You don't see Democrat leaders saying "only vote in person on Nov 3rd like God intended" like Republican leaders and people are." https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/PSA-go-VOTE--don-t-be-a-Moran-Last-chance-to-stop-tyranny--/5-2381908/?page=1 GD was telling people that if they voted early their ballots would be changed to Biden votes by the nefarious USPS |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:57:45 PM EDT
[#45]
I can’t imagine sending Rudy into a hearing. Is Sekulow out sick?
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:57:46 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rudy is just an senile as Biden. It’s true, he lives in the same building as my father in law on the island. I didn’t know him back when he was saving New York so I’ll give those days the benefit of doubt but the handful of times I’ve talked to him in the past four or five years... meh. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:59:18 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've rarely heard opposing counsel blast a fellow attorney in federal court like this. Normally, by now, the Judge has stepped in or has at least asked counsel to calm down a bit. Now, with that said, the Judge also gave Giuliani extremely wide latitude to say whatever he wanted to say earlier in the hearing. Nonetheless, it's pretty jarring to hear counsel absolutely berate someone like Giuliani, who actually used to be a respected attorney, multiple times in a hearing. I really can't say that Giuliani doesn't deserve it, though. He was totally unprepared and couldn't remember much of the existing case law -- including a lot of the RECENT court decisions that are involved in this case. Giuliani, once "America's mayor" and worthy GOP presidential candidate, has really bottomed out. All the other respected attorneys ejected from this shit show... |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 5:59:59 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Angry cat ladies everywhere!" LOL... No one listened to you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It wasn't just Trump, almost all Republican leaders were discouraging mail in voting and early voting. I was trying to warn people this could happen go back to at least Oct 23. My statement from then. "When you vote doesn't really matter. Actually voting and who you vote for does. All the article says is more registered Democrats showed up to early voting which is what we would expect. You don't see Democrat leaders saying "only vote in person on Nov 3rd like God intended" like Republican leaders and people are." https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/PSA-go-VOTE--don-t-be-a-Moran-Last-chance-to-stop-tyranny--/5-2381908/?page=1 "Angry cat ladies everywhere!" LOL... No one listened to you. I warned of this exact scenario playing out and encourage people to vote back on 10/23. Why do you seem bitter and feel the need to attack me with nonsense? |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 6:01:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's true, he lives in the same building as my father in law on the island. I didn't know him back when he was saving New York so I'll give those days the benefit of doubt but the handful of times I've talked to him in the past four or five years... meh. |
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Posted: 11/17/2020 6:02:59 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I warned of this exact scenario playing out and encourage people to vote back on 10/23. Why do you seem bitter and feel the need to attack me with nonsense? |
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