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The notice was a successful tactic from the Iowa GOP in 2014 to drive turn out. It WORKS! He did not say Carson dropped out, View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cruz did something I'd expect from democrats TWICE, first with the election notice letters with grades, along with neighbor's grades, second with announcing Carson dropped out. Trump did something extremely stupid TWICE, first with the debate, second by threatening to sue. The notice was a successful tactic from the Iowa GOP in 2014 to drive turn out. It WORKS! He did not say Carson dropped out, A nice letter notice is a good reminder, but putting neighbor's names with grades on it too? That's too much like the low shit dems pull, sorry. As for the notice about Carson, it came from the Cruz campaign, which Cruz is held accountable for. |
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God help Iowa, if Trump becomes president
Trump what an ass-clown... |
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Trump's initial statement upon losing the Iowa caucus was tasteful and adult. Why in the blue-painted FUCK
did he throw that away with this bullshit move? Trump is stepping on his dick. |
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Trump will pout, stomp off and run independent.
The "conservative vote" will get split a la' Ross Perot, and a Clinton will win. All part of the plan. |
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Quoted: Good lord the people who believe this are pathetic. I'm quickly losing faith in a large chunk of our society. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: To me it seems like Trump is firing a shot across the GOPe bow. He's saying that he won't put up with their shenanigans. I think there will be alot more important things they'll try to pull as the primaries go on. To his resolve I say: http://31.media.tumblr.com/8cb046e6f16e05f8521e15de31927f52/tumblr_mt80mvKYGn1rqfhi2o1_500.gif Cruz is GOPe now. I guess in Trumpland, everyone other than Trump is GOPe. Good lord the people who believe this are pathetic. I'm quickly losing faith in a large chunk of our society. |
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View Quote This is Trump's real strategy: keep the circus going and distract enough voters with his inane blather until super Tuesday. Every week it will be a new outrageously controversial statement from this liberal-fraud, statements obviously designed only to keep the media spotlight on him. Sad to see it working so well for this calculating con-artist, |
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If cruz announced carson had pulled out when he hadn't, and benefited from that lie enough to win the iowa caucus, it sounds pretty shady to me.
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CNN reported it. I saw it with my own eyes. You can't blame a busy campaign worker for missing their clarification a half hour later. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Trump is saying that cruz announced that carson had dropped out of the race, just before the iowa caucus. And refused to correct that until after the caucus was over. CNN reported it. I saw it with my own eyes. You can't blame a busy campaign worker for missing their clarification a half hour later. |
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If Trump doesn't win NH the meltdown will be epic. I figure he's going to take NH though because it's overrun with massholes.
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Quoted: If cruz announced carson had pulled out when he hadn't, and benefited from that lie enough to win the iowa caucus, it sounds pretty shady to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: If cruz announced carson had pulled out when he hadn't, and benefited from that lie enough to win the iowa caucus, it sounds pretty shady to me. Quoted: Quoted: Trump is saying that cruz announced that carson had dropped out of the race, just before the iowa caucus. And refused to correct that until after the caucus was over. CNN reported it. I saw it with my own eyes. You can't blame a busy campaign worker for missing their clarification a half hour later. If that was the case, it stands to reason both Rubio and Trump would have also received a boost from some of those votes that were meant for Carson. So honestly, what's Trump complaining about? Realistically though, it didn't matter. RarestRX posted this in another thread: Here’s some back-of-the-envelope math based on Carson finishing with 17,000+ votes on caucus night. If you assume, implausibly, that thousands of Carson supporters peeled off at the last second due to the erroneous bulletin about him dropping out, and if you further assume that those voters split 50 percent for Cruz, 25 percent for Trump, and 25 percent for Rubio and others, you’d need to believe that something like 24,000 Carson voters abandoned him at the last second to generate the 6,000-vote margin over Trump that Cruz ended up with. That is to say, you’d need to believe that Ben Carson’s "true” support in Iowa was something like 41,000 votes total — which would have put him neck and neck with Rubio for third place at around 22-23 percent. Carson’s final polling average in Iowa was 7.7 percent. He would, in other words, have had to nearly triple his expected take to make the "Cruz won because of the Carson bulletin” theory tenable. As bad as the polls were, none of them missed Cruz’s, Trump’s, or Rubio’s vote totals by anything close to that amount. Rubio did six points better than expected, Cruz did not quite four points better than expected, and Trump did nearly five points worse. Carson isn’t claiming that Cruz won because of him, do note, but that’s the theory that’s floating around in some quarters online today. It doesn’t fly. The best you can do here to indict Cruz is to claim, without hard evidence, that Carson would have finished several points higher if not for the bulletin, which would have left him better positioned in South Carolina than he currently is. Although even there, he’ll be on the far outside looking in at what’s likely to be a three-man race among an electorate that’s voting strategically. |
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Gutfeld had it right. Trump, a guy who tried to make people think if Cruz was nominated the Dems would disqualify him due to citizenship, wants to sue because Cruz supposedly pulled a 'dirty trick'??.....
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He really needs to shut up about this. He is probably going to knock the wind out of Cruz in NH so there is no need to revisit Iowa for any reason. Both he and Cruz need to start targeting Rubio ASAP. Yeah, whatever happens, Romnio needs to be defeated. I have a terrible feeling that Rubio will be the nominee. Too bad, because I looked forward to voting in this election. |
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And Trump wins another news cycle. View Quote and is up 24 points in NH. and in SC Cruz is losing favor amongst a portion of the evangelicals - which is the only thing that saved his bacon in Iowa. Well that and his underhanded tactics. Looks like it is going to be between Trump and Rubio |
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A nice letter notice is a good reminder, but putting neighbor's names with grades on it too? That's too much like the low shit dems pull, sorry. As for the notice about Carson, it came from the Cruz campaign, which Cruz is held accountable for. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cruz did something I'd expect from democrats TWICE, first with the election notice letters with grades, along with neighbor's grades, second with announcing Carson dropped out. Trump did something extremely stupid TWICE, first with the debate, second by threatening to sue. The notice was a successful tactic from the Iowa GOP in 2014 to drive turn out. It WORKS! He did not say Carson dropped out, A nice letter notice is a good reminder, but putting neighbor's names with grades on it too? That's too much like the low shit dems pull, sorry. As for the notice about Carson, it came from the Cruz campaign, which Cruz is held accountable for. CNN reported it, Cruz's campaign Tweeted and included a screen grab for people to see. Here's an idea, how about message control from Carson's camp, how bout not putting out a statement before the caucus saying you're going home rather than on to NH like every other candidate. The confusion started with Carson's people creating an easily misinterpreted narrative. |
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If cruz announced carson had pulled out when he hadn't, and benefited from that lie enough to win the iowa caucus, it sounds pretty shady to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
If cruz announced carson had pulled out when he hadn't, and benefited from that lie enough to win the iowa caucus, it sounds pretty shady to me. Quoted:
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Trump is saying that cruz announced that carson had dropped out of the race, just before the iowa caucus. And refused to correct that until after the caucus was over. CNN reported it. I saw it with my own eyes. You can't blame a busy campaign worker for missing their clarification a half hour later. People have run several models, and under no model I've seen could this have changed the outcome. None. It's a BS attempt to explain away poor performance. |
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CNN reported it, Cruz's campaign Tweeted and included a screen grab for people to see. Here's an idea, how about message control from Carson's camp, how bout not putting out a statement before the caucus saying you're going home rather than on to NH like every other candidate. The confusion started with Carson's people creating an easily misinterpreted narrative. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cruz did something I'd expect from democrats TWICE, first with the election notice letters with grades, along with neighbor's grades, second with announcing Carson dropped out. Trump did something extremely stupid TWICE, first with the debate, second by threatening to sue. The notice was a successful tactic from the Iowa GOP in 2014 to drive turn out. It WORKS! He did not say Carson dropped out, A nice letter notice is a good reminder, but putting neighbor's names with grades on it too? That's too much like the low shit dems pull, sorry. As for the notice about Carson, it came from the Cruz campaign, which Cruz is held accountable for. CNN reported it, Cruz's campaign Tweeted and included a screen grab for people to see. Here's an idea, how about message control from Carson's camp, how bout not putting out a statement before the caucus saying you're going home rather than on to NH like every other candidate. The confusion started with Carson's people creating an easily misinterpreted narrative. Yep. Carson's situation is bizarre. He's running for President of the United States of America, and he has to run home to Florida after the first primary to pick up some clean clothes? I'm sure Ben Carson is a nice guy, a great doctor and a very smart man, but he's completely out of his element here. You can tell any time he's talking about foreign affairs or almost anything that he's just doing his best to remember what someone told him to say. He should GTFO before he really hurts his reputation, he's just coming off as silly. |
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I'm not going to let this go...something needs to be said here.
Desperation doesn't come from when you are leading. Yeah I know Trump was 2nd at Iowa where coin tosses and "rock paper scissors" rule and all the retarded hand slapping caucusing shit rules...but thats not the rest of the US (thank God). Want till after NH and even super Tuesday. That said it was a low blow by Cruz's campaign to say Carson had dropped out when he had not at the last minute, in fact he had a campaign staffer killed in a car crash while going to Iowa and briefly suspended his campaign a few days prior in order to deal the grief and family of the killed staffer. Then we had the fake voting memo sent out by Cruz saying they would name you as a non voter or some shit if you did not vote for Cruz. Now honestly, had Trump did this same Bullshit what would the reaction be by all these hypocrites? you bet; outrage. Trump would be a motherfucker for doing that...except it was Cruz...so its all good. "Desperation" is using the death of someone's campaign staffer to gain points at the last minute..."desperation" is making up false official looking documents to scare elderly people into voting for them...that is desperation. I was a Cruz supporter, and more and more he's pushed me away. He's looking more and more like mealy mouthed desperate candidate, in debt up to his eyeballs with Goldman Sachs; Do you think these Globalists will want favors for all these loans owed, they can make them aaall go away with one vote on amnesty? - you bet. Thats how this works. Cruz/Hillary can win the retard coin tosses/dirty tricks BS shit in Iowa, but wait till the "normal" voting process starts and see just how desperate he becomes then. All I ask is for Cruz supporters (and I used to be one of them) to use the same litmus test later, knowing what we know happened here/now and not cry foul being there are no longer any rules....just remember that, cuz I will. |
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I'm not going to let this go...something needs to be said here. Desperation doesn't come from when you are leading. Yeah I know Trump was 2nd at Iowa where coin tosses and "rock paper scissors" rule and all the retarded hand slapping caucusing shit rules...but thats not the rest of the US (thank God). Want till after NH and even super Tuesday. That said it was a low blow by Cruz's campaign to say Carson had dropped out when he had not at the last minute, in fact he had a campaign staffer killed in a car crash while going to Iowa and briefly suspended his campaign a few days prior in order to deal the grief and family of the killed staffer. Then we had the fake voting memo sent out by Cruz saying they would name you as a non voter or some shit if you did not vote for Cruz. Now honestly, had Trump did this same Bullshit what would the reaction be by all these hypocrites? you bet; outrage. Trump would be a motherfucker for doing that...except it was Cruz...so its all good. "Desperation" is using the death of someone's campaign staffer to gain points at the last minute..."desperation" is making up false official looking documents to scare elderly people into voting for them...that is desperation. I was a Cruz supporter, and more and more he's pushed me away. He's looking more and more like mealy mouthed desperate candidate, in debt up to his eyeballs with Goldman Sachs; Do you think these Globalists will want favors for all these loans owed, they can make them aaall go away with one vote on amnesty? - you bet. Thats how this works. Cruz/Hillary can win the retard coin tosses/dirty tricks BS shit in Iowa, but wait till the "normal" voting process starts and see just how desperate he becomes then. All I ask is for Cruz supporters (and I used to be one of them) to use the same litmus test later, knowing what we know happened here/now and not cry foul being there are no longer any rules....just remember that, cuz I will. View Quote Well, except, everything you said is BS. First, neither Cruz or his campaign said Carson dropped out. It said he would stop campaigning. That's a suspension of the race, not dropping out. Second, the voters' notices is something that has been done in Iowa by the state GOP for years. It's successful, and why people do it. It got people to the caucuses, good. It didnt force them to support a candidate. Threatening to sue over these BS issues is desperation. |
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and is up 24 points in NH. and in SC Cruz is losing favor amongst a portion of the evangelicals - which is the only thing that saved his bacon in Iowa. Well that and his underhanded tactics. Looks like it is going to be between Trump and Rubio View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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And Trump wins another news cycle. and is up 24 points in NH. and in SC Cruz is losing favor amongst a portion of the evangelicals - which is the only thing that saved his bacon in Iowa. Well that and his underhanded tactics. Looks like it is going to be between Trump and Rubio I think we'll end up with a brokered convention due to the changes they made last cycle. Those three are going to keep beating each other down for months with Jeb taking pot shots wherever he can and nobody will meet the requirements in the end. This is my 7th primary and the first time I've ever had the possibility of my vote actually meaning something. |
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What is it about Trump that makes normally rational people step all over themselves to suck his dick? I don't see it. He's a guy that hasn't been consistent in his positions, and is an asshole to boot. He has, even recently, pledged support for the things that make conservatives cringe the most, and people are lining up and fighting each other to swallow every last drop that he can piss down on them. His track record is decidedly not conservative, and just because he says he is one now, a lot of generally intelligent folks are all in for him.
I'm not going to come on here and shill for any candidate at this point, but Jesus, wake up people! Trump is NOT the guy the country needs. He's more into stroking his own ego than he is into making the hard decisions that need to be made to lead this country. He's nothing more than a narcissistic carnival barker. He's already telling us that he's ready to make deals with the people in Washington that conservatives despise the most. How is that going to fix anything? The man is entertaining in a low-brow sort of way, and he's done a service by saying some things that most politicians won't but he's clearly not the right guy for the job. |
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I'm not going to let this go...something needs to be said here. Desperation doesn't come from when you are leading. Yeah I know Trump was 2nd at Iowa where coin tosses and "rock paper scissors" rule and all the retarded hand slapping caucusing shit rules...but thats not the rest of the US (thank God). Want till after NH and even super Tuesday. That said it was a low blow by Cruz's campaign to say Carson had dropped out when he had not at the last minute, in fact he had a campaign staffer killed in a car crash while going to Iowa and briefly suspended his campaign a few days prior in order to deal the grief and family of the killed staffer. Then we had the fake voting memo sent out by Cruz saying they would name you as a non voter or some shit if you did not vote for Cruz. Now honestly, had Trump did this same Bullshit what would the reaction be by all these hypocrites? you bet; outrage. Trump would be a motherfucker for doing that...except it was Cruz...so its all good. "Desperation" is using the death of someone's campaign staffer to gain points at the last minute..."desperation" is making up false official looking documents to scare elderly people into voting for them...that is desperation. I was a Cruz supporter, and more and more he's pushed me away. He's looking more and more like mealy mouthed desperate candidate, in debt up to his eyeballs with Goldman Sachs; Do you think these Globalists will want favors for all these loans owed, they can make them aaall go away with one vote on amnesty? - you bet. Thats how this works. Cruz/Hillary can win the retard coin tosses/dirty tricks BS shit in Iowa, but wait till the "normal" voting process starts and see just how desperate he becomes then. All I ask is for Cruz supporters (and I used to be one of them) to use the same litmus test later, knowing what we know happened here/now and not cry foul being there are no longer any rules....just remember that, cuz I will. View Quote Once again Cruz did not pull any shady shit with regards to Carson dropping out. CNN reported it Cruz campaign tweeted it with a screen shot of the CNN announcement. Trump is a fucking man child who pouts and throws tantrums when shit doesn't go his way. I will be voting for Cruz in SC the rest can take a hike. |
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If cruz announced carson had pulled out when he hadn't, and benefited from that lie enough to win the iowa caucus, it sounds pretty shady to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Trump is saying that cruz announced that carson had dropped out of the race, just before the iowa caucus. And refused to correct that until after the caucus was over. CNN reported it. I saw it with my own eyes. You can't blame a busy campaign worker for missing their clarification a half hour later. Except they did not say he had pulled out. They quoted CNN and asked Carson supporters to caucus for Cruz. |
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What's he gonna do when he can't sue everyone if he's elected? What a fucking joke of a candidate.
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Quoted: CNN reported it, Cruz's campaign Tweeted and included a screen grab for people to see. Here's an idea, how about message control from Carson's camp, how bout not putting out a statement before the caucus saying you're going home rather than on to NH like every other candidate. The confusion started with Carson's people creating an easily misinterpreted narrative. View Quote I have a better idea: leave the bitching about Carson at home. We have nothing to gain and lots to lose by doubling down on this. Carson is seen as a 'good guy', and throwing him under the bus will damage Cruz, even if the charge has merit. Trump and Rubio will simply capitalize on it and point out the claims that everybody hates Cruz are well founded. |
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Quoted: I have a better idea: leave the bitching about Carson at home. We have nothing to gain and lots to lose by doubling down on this. Carson is seen as a 'good guy', and throwing him under the bus will damage Cruz, even if the charge has merit. Trump and Rubio will simply capitalize on it and point out the claims that everybody hates Cruz are well founded. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: CNN reported it, Cruz's campaign Tweeted and included a screen grab for people to see. Here's an idea, how about message control from Carson's camp, how bout not putting out a statement before the caucus saying you're going home rather than on to NH like every other candidate. The confusion started with Carson's people creating an easily misinterpreted narrative. I have a better idea: leave the bitching about Carson at home. We have nothing to gain and lots to lose by doubling down on this. Carson is seen as a 'good guy', and throwing him under the bus will damage Cruz, even if the charge has merit. Trump and Rubio will simply capitalize on it and point out the claims that everybody hates Cruz are well founded. |
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Quoted: To me it seems like Trump is firing a shot across the GOPe bow. He's saying that he won't put up with their shenanigans. I think there will be alot more important things they'll try to pull as the primaries go on. To his resolve I say: http://31.media.tumblr.com/8cb046e6f16e05f8521e15de31927f52/tumblr_mt80mvKYGn1rqfhi2o1_500.gif View Quote This |
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Rubio's camp tweeted it before the Cruz camp. This is all just a bunch of bullshit to knockdown the one they fear winning the most, Cruz. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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CNN reported it, Cruz's campaign Tweeted and included a screen grab for people to see. Here's an idea, how about message control from Carson's camp, how bout not putting out a statement before the caucus saying you're going home rather than on to NH like every other candidate. The confusion started with Carson's people creating an easily misinterpreted narrative. I have a better idea: leave the bitching about Carson at home. We have nothing to gain and lots to lose by doubling down on this. Carson is seen as a 'good guy', and throwing him under the bus will damage Cruz, even if the charge has merit. Trump and Rubio will simply capitalize on it and point out the claims that everybody hates Cruz are well founded. Yep. Not a peep about Rubio's camp doing the same and doing it first. Wonder why all the Trumpalos are ignoring this fact? |
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Well, except, everything you said is BS. First, neither Cruz or his campaign said Carson dropped out. It said he would stop campaigning. That's a suspension of the race, not dropping out. Second, the voters' notices is something that has been done in Iowa by the state GOP for years. It's successful, and why people do it. It got people to the caucuses, good. It didnt force them to support a candidate. Threatening to sue over these BS issues is desperation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm not going to let this go...something needs to be said here. Desperation doesn't come from when you are leading. Yeah I know Trump was 2nd at Iowa where coin tosses and "rock paper scissors" rule and all the retarded hand slapping caucusing shit rules...but thats not the rest of the US (thank God). Want till after NH and even super Tuesday. That said it was a low blow by Cruz's campaign to say Carson had dropped out when he had not at the last minute, in fact he had a campaign staffer killed in a car crash while going to Iowa and briefly suspended his campaign a few days prior in order to deal the grief and family of the killed staffer. Then we had the fake voting memo sent out by Cruz saying they would name you as a non voter or some shit if you did not vote for Cruz. Now honestly, had Trump did this same Bullshit what would the reaction be by all these hypocrites? you bet; outrage. Trump would be a motherfucker for doing that...except it was Cruz...so its all good. "Desperation" is using the death of someone's campaign staffer to gain points at the last minute..."desperation" is making up false official looking documents to scare elderly people into voting for them...that is desperation. I was a Cruz supporter, and more and more he's pushed me away. He's looking more and more like mealy mouthed desperate candidate, in debt up to his eyeballs with Goldman Sachs; Do you think these Globalists will want favors for all these loans owed, they can make them aaall go away with one vote on amnesty? - you bet. Thats how this works. Cruz/Hillary can win the retard coin tosses/dirty tricks BS shit in Iowa, but wait till the "normal" voting process starts and see just how desperate he becomes then. All I ask is for Cruz supporters (and I used to be one of them) to use the same litmus test later, knowing what we know happened here/now and not cry foul being there are no longer any rules....just remember that, cuz I will. Well, except, everything you said is BS. First, neither Cruz or his campaign said Carson dropped out. It said he would stop campaigning. That's a suspension of the race, not dropping out. Second, the voters' notices is something that has been done in Iowa by the state GOP for years. It's successful, and why people do it. It got people to the caucuses, good. It didnt force them to support a candidate. Threatening to sue over these BS issues is desperation. Totally unhinged. What good do you expect to do for Cruz by freaking out in GD multiple times a day anyways? At this rate your going to suffer a brain aneurysm before SC . |
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Huh, calling out voter fraud, illegal flyers, unethical tweets, and 90 uncounted precincts, and somehow you want to fantasize trump and Bernie as the ones with a problem?
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