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Oh this is priceless: "Well, I think could have used a ground game, a term I wasn't even familiar with." https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12647285_10205849700618040_8206793420387262451_n.jpg?oh=73d73794a8ca9bf763f6300b7c7e4eb4&oe=572B6361&__gda__=1464034963_934b95b4db057484679fc1267743ef79 ![]() View Quote ![]() I love reading transcripts of his interviews and speeches. He talks like a complete dumbass. I'd quote my favorite paragraph from that thing but shaggy beat me to it. ![]() |
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Completely unrelated, but here's another one of my favorites of his.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/263074-trump-scalia-affirmative-action GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump says he does not agree with comments from Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia questioning the efficacy of affirmative action.
“I don’t like what he said, no, I don’t like what he said. I heard him, I was like, ‘Let me read it again,’ because I actually read it in print, and I’m going, I read a lot of stuff, and I’m going, ‘Woah,’ ” Trump said in an interview televised Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” View Quote That's the kind of oratory jewel that comes along once in a blue moon from a serious presidential candidate....or every other day from Donald J Trump. |
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Oh this is priceless: "Well, I think could have used a ground game, a term I wasn't even familiar with." https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12647285_10205849700618040_8206793420387262451_n.jpg?oh=73d73794a8ca9bf763f6300b7c7e4eb4&oe=572B6361&__gda__=1464034963_934b95b4db057484679fc1267743ef79 ![]() Trump is a complete idiot when it comes to politics. If only he had spent some money. ![]() We were told he was so brilliant he didnt have to spend money. He was owning the press and they were doing his biding! He was up in one poll by four points? He was up in EVERY poll, and one was by 10 points if I recall. Hey Donald, you lower expectations BEFORE the vote and then outperform. You don't build your expectations up, lose, and then try to own play them! ![]() How can you say that with a straight face? Love him or hate him, we can all agree he has played this game pretty well. No, I don't think we all agree on that. Bookmarked. OK... ![]() I don't think skipping a debate is playing the game pretty well I don't think Tweeting like a bird brained high school mean girl cheerleader is playing the game well I don't think not having a ground game in a state the REQUIRES it to win was playing the game well I think focusing all attention on himself by being a raging asshole is playing one aspect of the game well... But not looking like you've got your shit together when all eyes are on you is NOT playing the game well Building expectations and under delivering is not playing the game well... A smart campaigner manages expectations, exceeds them, and gains recognition for over performing |
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OK... ![]() I don't think skipping a debate is playing the game pretty well I don't think Tweeting like a bird brained high school mean girl cheerleader is playing the game well I don't think not having a ground game in a state the REQUIRES it to win was playing the game well I think focusing all attention on himself by being a raging asshole is playing one aspect of the game well... But not looking like you've got your shit together when all eyes are on you is NOT playing the game well Building expectations and under delivering is not playing the game well... A smart campaigner manages expectations, exceeds them, and gains recognition for over performing View Quote Now now, be fair. Donny never heard of the term 'ground game', he didn't know about the ground game. Now he knows about the ground game, so he'll fund the ground game and it's going to be great. You're gonna love it. You're going to love the ground game. It's going to win. You're going to love how it wins, so much that you're going to get tired of winning, but you're still going to love it. I know a lot of ground games and they all love me. |
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Quoted: OK... ![]() I don't think skipping a debate is playing the game pretty well I don't think Tweeting like a bird brained high school mean girl cheerleader is playing the game well I don't think not having a ground game in a state the REQUIRES it to win was playing the game well I think focusing all attention on himself by being a raging asshole is playing one aspect of the game well... But not looking like you've got your shit together when all eyes are on you is NOT playing the game well Building expectations and under delivering is not playing the game well... A smart campaigner manages expectations, exceeds them, and gains recognition for over performing View Quote Trump is Bronn from GoT, man. It's dangerous to underestimate him because he fights differently. |
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Trump is Bronn from GoT, man. It's dangerous to underestimate him because he fights differently. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OK... ![]() I don't think skipping a debate is playing the game pretty well I don't think Tweeting like a bird brained high school mean girl cheerleader is playing the game well I don't think not having a ground game in a state the REQUIRES it to win was playing the game well I think focusing all attention on himself by being a raging asshole is playing one aspect of the game well... But not looking like you've got your shit together when all eyes are on you is NOT playing the game well Building expectations and under delivering is not playing the game well... A smart campaigner manages expectations, exceeds them, and gains recognition for over performing Trump is Bronn from GoT, man. It's dangerous to underestimate him because he fights differently. Nice analogy... Bronn was also a sell sword with no concept of loyalty and who turned his back on his patron... Just as Trump would turn his back on his supporters. At the end of the day, Bronn was lethal because he had no sense of loyalty or honor, and gleefully admitted such. |
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Quoted: Nice analogy... Bronn was also a sell sword with no concept of loyalty and who turned his back on his patron... Just as Trump would turn his back on his supporters. At the end of the day, Bronn was lethal because he had no sense of loyalty or honor, and gleefully admitted such. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: OK... ![]() I don't think skipping a debate is playing the game pretty well I don't think Tweeting like a bird brained high school mean girl cheerleader is playing the game well I don't think not having a ground game in a state the REQUIRES it to win was playing the game well I think focusing all attention on himself by being a raging asshole is playing one aspect of the game well... But not looking like you've got your shit together when all eyes are on you is NOT playing the game well Building expectations and under delivering is not playing the game well... A smart campaigner manages expectations, exceeds them, and gains recognition for over performing Trump is Bronn from GoT, man. It's dangerous to underestimate him because he fights differently. Nice analogy... Bronn was also a sell sword with no concept of loyalty and who turned his back on his patron... Just as Trump would turn his back on his supporters. At the end of the day, Bronn was lethal because he had no sense of loyalty or honor, and gleefully admitted such. I actually wrote that comparison out, about him being amoral and unaligned, but dumped it because I figured you'd get the comparison, and it would just clutter the thread for non-fans. ![]() |
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In short Cruz's campaign operatives started a rumor. Rumor grew and got tweeted. Cnn saw Tweet and ran with the story. Was timed so perfectly that Cruz's caucus precincts may have picked up Carson's voters edging him over Trumps numbers. This is sort of a big deal if true. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Asshole Rove can hardly contain his excitement as he tries to explain how Cruz stole the win from Trump... FKR Still think this is all "Trump butthurt"? I'd wager there has been a plan in the works for some time to capitalize on anything that could be painted as Cruz moving against Carson. This REEKS of Rove. In short Cruz's campaign operatives started a rumor. Rumor grew and got tweeted. Cnn saw Tweet and ran with the story. Was timed so perfectly that Cruz's caucus precincts may have picked up Carson's voters edging him over Trumps numbers. This is sort of a big deal if true. You think Carson had 7000 voters that switched? |
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Trump is likely to win this round and with momentum being everything it will be extra good when it looks like Cruz lost because of voter push back to all the negative press he's getting. You already know he's going to say this is what happens when we expose cheaters and this is the way Iowa should have turned out. He has nothing to lose
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yeah right. Trump is imploding over a minor setback. Its becoming obvious that he is not believing in a message, but in himself and narcissism Looks like there is no one worth a shit in the top candidates, just a few slimy congressmen and a raging narcissist. I will probably vote Carson or Rand in my states primary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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To me it seems like Trump is firing a shot across the GOPe bow. He's saying that he won't put up with their shenanigans. I think there will be alot more important things they'll try to pull as the primaries go on. To his resolve I say: http://31.media.tumblr.com/8cb046e6f16e05f8521e15de31927f52/tumblr_mt80mvKYGn1rqfhi2o1_500.gif yeah right. Trump is imploding over a minor setback. Its becoming obvious that he is not believing in a message, but in himself and narcissism Looks like there is no one worth a shit in the top candidates, just a few slimy congressmen and a raging narcissist. I will probably vote Carson or Rand in my states primary. Boys...This is how you troll if you ever want too. This should be a PSA for the DU folks. |
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It's one thing to have Trump on The Apprentice. I can turn off the set. To watch him for 4 years from the bully pulpit of the Presidency................... http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a288/callgood/bobblehead_zpscow7pz29.gif I don't think it'll ever come to that. View Quote To be fair, I don't think I've heard a combined total 2 minutes of noise come out of the current President's mouth the entire time he's been in office. Same deal. If the President comes on the screen, I turn it off and go do something else. Shoot cans, jerk off, watch paint dry. Infinitely more constructive uses of my time. |
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Ya'll really don't see this? He's doing everything he can to get the Carson voters when he drops out of the race in a couple of days. He's not going to sue, he's running the media. Again. View Quote I don't think many voters work this way anymore. Information is too readily available. |
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To me it seems like Trump is firing a shot across the GOPe bow. He's saying that he won't put up with their shenanigans. I think there will be alot more important things they'll try to pull as the primaries go on. To his resolve I say: http://31.media.tumblr.com/8cb046e6f16e05f8521e15de31927f52/tumblr_mt80mvKYGn1rqfhi2o1_500.gif View Quote ![]() Oh wait, your actually serious? ![]() ![]() |
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Any of the other GOP candidates >> Trump >> any of the other Dem candidates >> Hillary
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Quoted: Trumps numbers are already falling in NH. I think it'll be closer than people think. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Ehh, he should let it go, he came in a strong 2nd, and unfortunately Cruz will not win New Hampshire...Trump probably will....suck it up... Trumps numbers are already falling in NH. I think it'll be closer than people think. |
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Which really means, "I can't believe I didn't think of that..." Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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And Cruze and Rubio are neck and neck with Rubio rising quickly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ehh, he should let it go, he came in a strong 2nd, and unfortunately Cruz will not win New Hampshire...Trump probably will....suck it up... Trumps numbers are already falling in NH. I think it'll be closer than people think. We'll have to see, so far the polls are 0-1, having ALL predicted that Trump was taking Iowa. There remains a debate before NH, wondering if Trump will be there? |
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Quoted:There is a law in Iowa that says that it is illegal to send out mail that is made to look like a government document.
Look it up. View Quote Is this what you're talking about? https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=39A#39A.2 39A.2 ELECTION MISCONDUCT IN THE FIRST DEGREE.
1. A person commits the crime of election misconduct in the first degree if the person willfully commits any of the following acts: a. Registration fraud. (1) Produces, procures, submits, or accepts a voter registration application that is known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, forged, or fraudulent. (2) Falsely swears to an oath required pursuant to section 48A.7A. b. Vote fraud. (1) Destroys, delivers, or handles an application for a ballot or an absentee ballot with the intent of interfering with the voter's right to vote. (2) Produces, procures, submits, or accepts a ballot or an absentee ballot, or produces, procures, casts, accepts, or tabulates a ballot that is known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, forged, or fraudulent. (3) Votes or attempts to vote more than once at the same election, or votes or attempts to vote at an election knowing oneself not to be qualified. (4) Makes a false or untrue statement in an application for an absentee ballot or makes or signs a false certification or affidavit in connection with an absentee ballot. (5) Otherwise deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the citizens of this state of a fair and impartially conducted election process. c. Duress. Intimidates, threatens, or coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, a person to do or to refrain from doing any of the following: (1) To register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register to vote. (2) To urge or aid a person to register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register to vote. (3) To sign a petition nominating a candidate for public office or a petition requesting an election for which a petition may legally be submitted. (4) To exercise a right under chapters 39 through 53. d. Bribery. (1) Pays, offers to pay, or causes to be paid money or any other thing of value to a person to influence the person's vote. (2) Pays, offers to pay, or causes to be paid money or any other thing of value to an election official conditioned on some act done or omitted to be done contrary to the person's official duty in relation to an election. (3) Receives money or any other thing of value knowing that it was given in violation of subparagraph (1) or (2). e. Conspiracy. Conspires with or acts as an accessory with another to commit an act in violation of paragraphs "a" through "d". f. Voting equipment tampering. Intentionally alters or damages any computer software or any physical part of voting equipment, automatic tabulating equipment, or any other part of a voting system. 2. Election misconduct in the first degree is a class "D" felony. View Quote |
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Is this what you're talking about? https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=39A#39A.2 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:There is a law in Iowa that says that it is illegal to send out mail that is made to look like a government document.
Look it up. Is this what you're talking about? https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=39A#39A.2 39A.2 ELECTION MISCONDUCT IN THE FIRST DEGREE.
1. A person commits the crime of election misconduct in the first degree if the person willfully commits any of the following acts: a. Registration fraud. (1) Produces, procures, submits, or accepts a voter registration application that is known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, forged, or fraudulent. (2) Falsely swears to an oath required pursuant to section 48A.7A. b. Vote fraud. (1) Destroys, delivers, or handles an application for a ballot or an absentee ballot with the intent of interfering with the voter's right to vote. (2) Produces, procures, submits, or accepts a ballot or an absentee ballot, or produces, procures, casts, accepts, or tabulates a ballot that is known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, forged, or fraudulent. (3) Votes or attempts to vote more than once at the same election, or votes or attempts to vote at an election knowing oneself not to be qualified. (4) Makes a false or untrue statement in an application for an absentee ballot or makes or signs a false certification or affidavit in connection with an absentee ballot. (5) Otherwise deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the citizens of this state of a fair and impartially conducted election process. c. Duress. Intimidates, threatens, or coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, a person to do or to refrain from doing any of the following: (1) To register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register to vote. (2) To urge or aid a person to register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register to vote. (3) To sign a petition nominating a candidate for public office or a petition requesting an election for which a petition may legally be submitted. (4) To exercise a right under chapters 39 through 53. d. Bribery. (1) Pays, offers to pay, or causes to be paid money or any other thing of value to a person to influence the person's vote. (2) Pays, offers to pay, or causes to be paid money or any other thing of value to an election official conditioned on some act done or omitted to be done contrary to the person's official duty in relation to an election. (3) Receives money or any other thing of value knowing that it was given in violation of subparagraph (1) or (2). e. Conspiracy. Conspires with or acts as an accessory with another to commit an act in violation of paragraphs "a" through "d". f. Voting equipment tampering. Intentionally alters or damages any computer software or any physical part of voting equipment, automatic tabulating equipment, or any other part of a voting system. 2. Election misconduct in the first degree is a class "D" felony. So ENCOURAGING people to vote is an attempt to intimidate, threaten or coerce them to NOT vote? ![]() ETA, I see what you're getting at... You're claiming the mailer is threatening people if they don't vote. It's a stretch. |
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Quoted: Is this what you're talking about? https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=39A#39A.2 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted:There is a law in Iowa that says that it is illegal to send out mail that is made to look like a government document. Look it up. Is this what you're talking about? https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=39A#39A.2 39A.2 ELECTION MISCONDUCT IN THE FIRST DEGREE. 1. A person commits the crime of election misconduct in the first degree if the person willfully commits any of the following acts: a. Registration fraud. (1) Produces, procures, submits, or accepts a voter registration application that is known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, forged, or fraudulent. (2) Falsely swears to an oath required pursuant to section 48A.7A. b. Vote fraud. (1) Destroys, delivers, or handles an application for a ballot or an absentee ballot with the intent of interfering with the voter's right to vote. (2) Produces, procures, submits, or accepts a ballot or an absentee ballot, or produces, procures, casts, accepts, or tabulates a ballot that is known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, forged, or fraudulent. (3) Votes or attempts to vote more than once at the same election, or votes or attempts to vote at an election knowing oneself not to be qualified. (4) Makes a false or untrue statement in an application for an absentee ballot or makes or signs a false certification or affidavit in connection with an absentee ballot. (5) Otherwise deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the citizens of this state of a fair and impartially conducted election process. c. Duress. Intimidates, threatens, or coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, a person to do or to refrain from doing any of the following: (1) To register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register to vote. (2) To urge or aid a person to register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register to vote. (3) To sign a petition nominating a candidate for public office or a petition requesting an election for which a petition may legally be submitted. (4) To exercise a right under chapters 39 through 53. d. Bribery. (1) Pays, offers to pay, or causes to be paid money or any other thing of value to a person to influence the person's vote. (2) Pays, offers to pay, or causes to be paid money or any other thing of value to an election official conditioned on some act done or omitted to be done contrary to the person's official duty in relation to an election. (3) Receives money or any other thing of value knowing that it was given in violation of subparagraph (1) or (2). e. Conspiracy. Conspires with or acts as an accessory with another to commit an act in violation of paragraphs "a" through "d". f. Voting equipment tampering. Intentionally alters or damages any computer software or any physical part of voting equipment, automatic tabulating equipment, or any other part of a voting system. 2. Election misconduct in the first degree is a class "D" felony. |
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Do the Trump haters in this thread even realize he's going to be the front runner again in less than a week?
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So ENCOURAGING people to vote is an attempt to intimidate, threaten or coerce them to NOT vote? ![]() View Quote 1. Read it again, that's not what the statute says. 2. Sending out mail that uses voter information while attempting to appear to look like it was from the government in order to shame people and their neighbors to vote may qualify as duress. |
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We'll have to see, so far the polls are 0-1, having ALL predicted that Trump was taking Iowa. There remains a debate before NH, wondering if Trump will be there? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ehh, he should let it go, he came in a strong 2nd, and unfortunately Cruz will not win New Hampshire...Trump probably will....suck it up... Trumps numbers are already falling in NH. I think it'll be closer than people think. We'll have to see, so far the polls are 0-1, having ALL predicted that Trump was taking Iowa. There remains a debate before NH, wondering if Trump will be there? Iowa was Cruz's to win. Trump was looking like he might take it from him. It's like if Trump ran for Prime Minister in Cruz's home country. |
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https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 720.5 FALSE REPRESENTATION OF RECORDS OR PROCESS.
Any person who represents any document or paper to be any public record or any civil or criminal process, when the person knows such representation to be false, commits a simple misdemeanor. View Quote |
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Cruz seems to be racking up the dishonesty points. I heard the Democrats might make him an honorary member.
How is someone who is supposed to be super smart and on top of his game can forget about reporting multiple loans? Then mails people a report card of their and their neighbors voting record? Then sends out a notice that Carson dropped out of the caucus and anyone who was voting for Carson should just vote for Cruz. Even if the last two aren't illegal they are dishonest as hell. Sure Trump runs his mouth and says mean things but so far he hasn't violated my privacy by mailing my neighbors a report of my activity. Democrat organizations send my ex-wife mailers informing her that she hasn't voted but they don't include the neighbors. So Cruz is behaving in such a terrible way that he makes the Democrats look good. I'll take a loud mouth over a despicable liar any day. BTW Trump is only threatening to sue because it will distract Cruz, add more stress to his campaign, shake his focus...etc. Pretty smart politics, use a candidates own unethical behavior to derail them. Trump won't lose any sleep over the lawsuit, even if it gets thrown out, but Cruz will. |
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1. Read it again, that's not what the statute says. 2. Sending out mail that uses voter information while attempting to appear to look like it was from the government in order to shame people and their neighbors to vote may qualify as duress. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So ENCOURAGING people to vote is an attempt to intimidate, threaten or coerce them to NOT vote? ![]() 1. Read it again, that's not what the statute says. 2. Sending out mail that uses voter information while attempting to appear to look like it was from the government in order to shame people and their neighbors to vote may qualify as duress. I did read it several times, and I have a picture of the notice. Clearly says paid or by Cruz for President, with a Houston, TX address. No government seals, only an abject idiot would think its an official document. As for the Duress issue, that's pretty weak. Had they said there could be civil or criminal penalties, I could see that. Instead it says what your voter participation grade is, which is in fact a public record. The law says it cannot be used for COMMERCIAL purposes. Campaigns are not commercial. So where does the duress come into play? I don't particularly like this approach myself. It has however been utilized in Iowa elections previously, with success. Now a more interesting question is who did they send these out to? All GOP voters? The ones who hadn't voted? Cruz's campaign couldn't possibly know who these people would ultimately vote for. They could just as easily turned out people who supported any of the candidates other than Cruz. The goal was to increase turnout, which most models showed helping Trump and others. In fact all of the polls that showed Trump winning were predicated on higher than ever participation, in fact, higher than even happened on Monday. So to argue that he did this to gain unfair advantage is hogwash. |
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Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 720.5 FALSE REPRESENTATION OF RECORDS OR PROCESS.
Any person who represents any document or paper to be any public record or any civil or criminal process, when the person knows such representation to be false, commits a simple misdemeanor. Clearly printed Paid for by Cruz for President with a Houston, TX return address. No Iowa government seals were used. Only an idiot would think it was official. |
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Clearly printed Paid for by Cruz for President with a Houston, TX return address. No Iowa government seals were used. Only an idiot would think it was official. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 720.5 FALSE REPRESENTATION OF RECORDS OR PROCESS.
Any person who represents any document or paper to be any public record or any civil or criminal process, when the person knows such representation to be false, commits a simple misdemeanor. Clearly printed Paid for by Cruz for President with a Houston, TX return address. No Iowa government seals were used. Only an idiot would think it was official. The trumpets have become so fucking pathetic in their attempts to bring Cruz down. It really is something to behold.... |
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The trumpets have become so fucking pathetic in their attempts to bring Cruz down. It really is something to behold.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 720.5 FALSE REPRESENTATION OF RECORDS OR PROCESS.
Any person who represents any document or paper to be any public record or any civil or criminal process, when the person knows such representation to be false, commits a simple misdemeanor. Clearly printed Paid for by Cruz for President with a Houston, TX return address. No Iowa government seals were used. Only an idiot would think it was official. The trumpets have become so fucking pathetic in their attempts to bring Cruz down. It really is something to behold.... I'll tip my hat to Trump... If anybody believed this was an official document, "How stupid are the people of Iowa?" Here's the thing, I think only low-information voters would buy into that narrative, and I think they are few and far between. The people of Iowa turned out in record numbers, and tht benefitted every candidate. Unlike a primary when you go into a booth, pull a lever in secret, and walk out, caucuses give neighbors a chance to sway neighbors. Every voter is a potential supporter if your ground game can convince them to back your guy, Now we know why Trump is pissed, Ted had a ground game to sell the Cruz message to all of those voters. Trump, didnt know what a ground game is... |
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1. Read it again, that's not what the statute says. 2. Sending out mail that uses voter information while attempting to appear to look like it was from the government in order to shame people and their neighbors to vote may qualify as duress. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So ENCOURAGING people to vote is an attempt to intimidate, threaten or coerce them to NOT vote? ![]() 1. Read it again, that's not what the statute says. 2. Sending out mail that uses voter information while attempting to appear to look like it was from the government in order to shame people and their neighbors to vote may qualify as duress. A law dictionary. Use one. Words mean things, but I don't think they mean what you think they mean. |
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Is this what you're talking about? https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=39A#39A.2 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:There is a law in Iowa that says that it is illegal to send out mail that is made to look like a government document.
Look it up. Is this what you're talking about? https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=39A#39A.2 39A.2 ELECTION MISCONDUCT IN THE FIRST DEGREE.
1. A person commits the crime of election misconduct in the first degree if the person willfully commits any of the following acts: a. Registration fraud. (1) Produces, procures, submits, or accepts a voter registration application that is known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, forged, or fraudulent. (2) Falsely swears to an oath required pursuant to section 48A.7A. b. Vote fraud. (1) Destroys, delivers, or handles an application for a ballot or an absentee ballot with the intent of interfering with the voter's right to vote. (2) Produces, procures, submits, or accepts a ballot or an absentee ballot, or produces, procures, casts, accepts, or tabulates a ballot that is known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, forged, or fraudulent. (3) Votes or attempts to vote more than once at the same election, or votes or attempts to vote at an election knowing oneself not to be qualified. (4) Makes a false or untrue statement in an application for an absentee ballot or makes or signs a false certification or affidavit in connection with an absentee ballot. (5) Otherwise deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the citizens of this state of a fair and impartially conducted election process. c. Duress. Intimidates, threatens, or coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, a person to do or to refrain from doing any of the following: (1) To register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register to vote. (2) To urge or aid a person to register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register to vote. (3) To sign a petition nominating a candidate for public office or a petition requesting an election for which a petition may legally be submitted. (4) To exercise a right under chapters 39 through 53. d. Bribery. (1) Pays, offers to pay, or causes to be paid money or any other thing of value to a person to influence the person's vote. (2) Pays, offers to pay, or causes to be paid money or any other thing of value to an election official conditioned on some act done or omitted to be done contrary to the person's official duty in relation to an election. (3) Receives money or any other thing of value knowing that it was given in violation of subparagraph (1) or (2). e. Conspiracy. Conspires with or acts as an accessory with another to commit an act in violation of paragraphs "a" through "d". f. Voting equipment tampering. Intentionally alters or damages any computer software or any physical part of voting equipment, automatic tabulating equipment, or any other part of a voting system. 2. Election misconduct in the first degree is a class "D" felony. Ask me how I know that you don't know how the Iowa Presidential Caucus works. |
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Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 720.5 FALSE REPRESENTATION OF RECORDS OR PROCESS.
Any person who represents any document or paper to be any public record or any civil or criminal process, when the person knows such representation to be false, commits a simple misdemeanor. Does the mailer claim to be "offical gov't business". Your argument is retarded. Go away political troll. |
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Now we know why Trump is pissed, Ted had a ground game to sell the Cruz message to all of those voters. Trump, didnt know what a ground game is... View Quote I agree with this and everything else you posted. I'd like to add that Trump REALLY shouldn't have skipped that debate, it really bit him in the ass in Iowa ... |
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A law dictionary. Use one. Words mean things, but I don't think they mean what you think they mean. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So ENCOURAGING people to vote is an attempt to intimidate, threaten or coerce them to NOT vote? ![]() 1. Read it again, that's not what the statute says. 2. Sending out mail that uses voter information while attempting to appear to look like it was from the government in order to shame people and their neighbors to vote may qualify as duress. A law dictionary. Use one. Words mean things, but I don't think they mean what you think they mean. In the context of the statute, try again. Besides, tell that to Iowa's secretary of state. |
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Does the mailer claim to be "offical gov't business". Your argument is retarded. Go away political troll. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 720.5 FALSE REPRESENTATION OF RECORDS OR PROCESS.
Any person who represents any document or paper to be any public record or any civil or criminal process, when the person knows such representation to be false, commits a simple misdemeanor. Does the mailer claim to be "offical gov't business". Your argument is retarded. Go away political troll. What's retarded is Cruz's slimeball tactics and his slimeball humpers defending them. |
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In the context of the statute, try again. Besides, tell that to Iowa's secretary of state. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So ENCOURAGING people to vote is an attempt to intimidate, threaten or coerce them to NOT vote? ![]() 1. Read it again, that's not what the statute says. 2. Sending out mail that uses voter information while attempting to appear to look like it was from the government in order to shame people and their neighbors to vote may qualify as duress. A law dictionary. Use one. Words mean things, but I don't think they mean what you think they mean. In the context of the statute, try again. Besides, tell that to Iowa's secretary of state. The Secretary of State has nothing to do with the caucus process. It is totally and wholly a party affair. Nice try though. ![]() |
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The Secretary of State has nothing to do with the caucus process. It is totally and wholly a party affair. Nice try though. ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So ENCOURAGING people to vote is an attempt to intimidate, threaten or coerce them to NOT vote? ![]() 1. Read it again, that's not what the statute says. 2. Sending out mail that uses voter information while attempting to appear to look like it was from the government in order to shame people and their neighbors to vote may qualify as duress. A law dictionary. Use one. Words mean things, but I don't think they mean what you think they mean. In the context of the statute, try again. Besides, tell that to Iowa's secretary of state. The Secretary of State has nothing to do with the caucus process. It is totally and wholly a party affair. Nice try though. ![]() The Cruz bullshit mailers are part of the caucus process? Try again, Einstein. |
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What's retarded is Cruz's slimeball tactics and his slimeball humpers defending them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 720.5 FALSE REPRESENTATION OF RECORDS OR PROCESS.
Any person who represents any document or paper to be any public record or any civil or criminal process, when the person knows such representation to be false, commits a simple misdemeanor. Does the mailer claim to be "offical gov't business". Your argument is retarded. Go away political troll. What's retarded is Cruz's slimeball tactics and his slimeball humpers defending them. So you have no argument...Just accusations. Fuck off. |
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So you have no argument...Just accusations. Fuck off. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 720.5 FALSE REPRESENTATION OF RECORDS OR PROCESS.
Any person who represents any document or paper to be any public record or any civil or criminal process, when the person knows such representation to be false, commits a simple misdemeanor. Does the mailer claim to be "offical gov't business". Your argument is retarded. Go away political troll. What's retarded is Cruz's slimeball tactics and his slimeball humpers defending them. So you have no argument...Just accusations. Fuck off. Rafael Edward Cruz's mailer was a fabrication, huh? "The ends justify the means" would make a great slogan for the world's most conservative conservative. |
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Does the mailer claim to be "offical gov't business". Your argument is retarded. Go away political troll. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh, also, this: https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=720#720.5 720.5 FALSE REPRESENTATION OF RECORDS OR PROCESS.
Any person who represents any document or paper to be any public record or any civil or criminal process, when the person knows such representation to be false, commits a simple misdemeanor. Does the mailer claim to be "offical gov't business". Your argument is retarded. Go away political troll. Further, Sec. 720 has to do with interference with judicial process. |
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The mailer, while you may not like it, does not bear any seals, statements that it is an official document,and was marked Paid for by Cruz for President with a Houston address right on the outside. Before even opening it you could see it was a campaign mailing. Whatever happened to personal responsibility around here?
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The mailer, while you may not like it, does not bear any seals, statements that it is an official document,and was marked Paid for by Cruz for President with a Houston address right on the outside. Before even opening it you could see it was a campaign mailing. Whatever happened to personal responsibility around here? ![]() View Quote Aww, don't worry, chum. Nobody is going to really bother to sue Cruz. It'll be down to Trump and Rubio after super Tuesday. |
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Aww, don't worry, chum. Nobody is going to really bother to sue Cruz. It'll be down to Trump and Rubio after super Tuesday. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The mailer, while you may not like it, does not bear any seals, statements that it is an official document,and was marked Paid for by Cruz for President with a Houston address right on the outside. Before even opening it you could see it was a campaign mailing. Whatever happened to personal responsibility around here? ![]() Aww, don't worry, chum. Nobody is going to really bother to sue Cruz. It'll be down to Trump and Rubio after super Tuesday. Cruz is living rent free in Trumps head. Not a good thing for an alleged real estate mogul. |
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View Quote In before the Trumpeteers rip into Levin for being a GOPe stooge! ![]() |
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