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Posted: 8/14/2020 3:55:00 PM EDT
[#1]
I can haz MAWL now?!?
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Posted: 8/14/2020 3:55:12 PM EDT
[#2]
I guess I better hurry up and buy a Soldano amp now. After CWII kicks off and the grid shuts down, I will not be able to enjoy it.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 3:56:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some perspective: 1. The US government is going to go broke 2. They will continue to print money and send it out 3. Somebody somewhere is going to get that money 4. Might as well be me I will use the federal money printer money to pay off the loans they gave me at 0% interest... 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 3:57:28 PM EDT
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I thought giving everyone free stuff was bad because "socialism". Might as well vote for Andrew yang at this point...
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Posted: 8/14/2020 3:58:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, we elected a businessman who has multiple bankruptcies to his name. That ship sailed a long time ago. "We?" 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 3:58:42 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought giving everyone free stuff was bad because "socialism". Might as well vote for Andrew yang at this point...  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:02:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. My family of four won't see a dime. Everyone that gets one of those checks should be barred from voting until the debt is repaid. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fake news. Not "every" Yep. My family of four won't see a dime. Everyone that gets one of those checks should be barred from voting until the debt is repaid. I'm done voting as it is. But I'll love my Benelli M4 like it's my firstborn. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:02:17 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @belted_guns Did you complete the info on the IRS website so they had bank info and such? Regardless, the first EIP (stimulus) payments will be reconciled on the 2020 tax return, so if you didn't receive it in 2019, you should get it when you file for 2020, if you qualify. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We didn't get jack s××t from the last stimulus. We qualified. @belted_guns Did you complete the info on the IRS website so they had bank info and such? Regardless, the first EIP (stimulus) payments will be reconciled on the 2020 tax return, so if you didn't receive it in 2019, you should get it when you file for 2020, if you qualify. I tried daily from apr 16 thru May. All I got was the error msg no data available. Except one day got the put in your bank info, then next day back to no info available. We qual for the kids portion. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:02:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 100% bullshit that was invented out of whole cloth. The government creates inflation to steal your purchasing power in order to use it themselves, and also to reward those that are in bed with them. Inflation is a tax, and it screws over normal people who want to save money. Futhermore, if you buy assets with your money to try and beat inflation, when you sell those assets the government is going to take a big chunk as capital gains taxes, even if there were no actual capital gains but only asset price inflation due to the monetary inflation that they themselves created. Bingo, except you left out - its the cruelest f'in tax of them all. And, you left out the part where the government issues bonds, and then creates inflation so as to cheat the very people that loaned them money. Brazil, Mexico, US. You know, all the banana republics. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:02:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought giving everyone free stuff was bad because "socialism". Might as well vote for Andrew yang at this point... Only if he gets that R after his name. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:05:01 PM EDT
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“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.”
? Alexis de Tocqueville |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:06:27 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now all those California people will really buy up all the mags. You got that right!...
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:07:43 PM EDT
[#13]
If you ain’t first you’re last!!!
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:12:34 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought giving everyone free stuff was bad because "socialism". Might as well vote for Andrew yang at this point... Yes but Trumpbux sounds better than Yangbux |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:20:17 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "GMT"? Global Muff of Terror 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:26:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes but Trumpbux sounds better than Yangbux Correction: IT'S OUR FUCKING MONEY already. Sending it back to us means they don't get to waste it. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:31:11 PM EDT
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I'm voting for whoever gives me the most free shit. Fuck it. I'm FSA now.
Muh stimulus |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:42:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Today’s dollar purchases about 1/10 of what it did 45 years ago. $10 = $1. So that's not entirely accurate. While inflation has definitely happened, the factor you are not considering is the quality of item your dollar is purchasing today is exponentially better than what you could purchase in 1975. For example a $10,000 economy car today will drive for 250,000 miles without a problem. Try that with a vehicle from 1975. Also, a 43" TV today can be had for less than $300, in 2010, the same size TV (worse quality) would be $1200. Where your argument is true is for everyday purchases like groceries. So inflation effects the poorest people the most. Those considered middle class have arguably more purchasing power today than they did in 1975, even accounting for the loss in value of the dollar. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:44:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correction: IT'S OUR FUCKING MONEY already. Sending it back to us means they don't get to waste it. They didn't send anything back. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:49:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: do some of you have problems with reading or comprehension? the important part is.... DEMOCRATS ARE HOLDING THIS UP! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2917/Trumpimage-20200814-001_jpg-1546016.JPG Show me where it says “high earners” will not be excluded this go around. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:51:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  I am pretty sure the problem is government handing out free money to people who (probably) pay shit in for taxes They’re going to get your tax dollars regardless. I’m not going to bitch about getting a tax refund for the lack of services provided by the government since this began. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 4:55:59 PM EDT
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I'm all for extending the unemployment payments for people who are legit out of work due to the pandemic. I'm not for just sending stimulus checks to everyone below a certain income level regardless of their employment situation. I freely admit I'm biased because I make too much to qualify, but even if I didn't I'd still think it was wasting money that could be better targeted.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:04:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re going to get your tax dollars regardless. I’m not going to bitch about getting a tax refund for the lack of services provided by the government since this began. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am pretty sure the problem is government handing out free money to people who (probably) pay shit in for taxes They’re going to get your tax dollars regardless. I’m not going to bitch about getting a tax refund for the lack of services provided by the government since this began. No shit, the .gov, at least in my mind, totally own this whole mess. It has been a total political shit show since the start. So what if they add some more imaginary numbers to the "deficit", at this point, who cares. I'll give Trump a pass this time, he basically has to get another stimulus through. Hopefully Nancy and her minions will be blamed for any delay, but the Trump hate is strong on the left. We shall see. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:05:18 PM EDT
[#24]
Everyone complains about the government taking their money, now they just want to give it back.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:09:12 PM EDT
[#25]
This thread
 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:11:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BatMan first Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Awe yissss one step closer to a GMT Pepsi, red/black, all black or Batman? BatMan first Pepsi all the way! |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:30:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone complains about the government taking their money, now they just want to give it back. This is not "giving it back" - this will be wealth redistribution, just like the last one. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:33:01 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a problem with using the Public Treasury in such a manner to basically buy votes. This is shit done in 3rd World Tropical Dictatorships. This is shit that Fidel Castro would endorse. 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:33:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is not "giving it back" - this will be wealth redistribution, just like the last one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Everyone complains about the government taking their money, now they just want to give it back. This is not "giving it back" - this will be wealth redistribution, just like the last one. Wealth, smealth. I'm still getting my Benelli M4. Thanks. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:45:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't care. Still haven't got the first stimulus $. Undecided whether to actually chase the IRS for it. Ontarians don't qualify. 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:47:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a family of 6, how much gibs will they gibs me? I don't think they should be doing this. Then go vote for Joe Biden if you can't handle TrueTM ConservatismTM. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 5:50:45 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wealth, smealth. I'm still getting my Benelli M4. Thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Everyone complains about the government taking their money, now they just want to give it back. This is not "giving it back" - this will be wealth redistribution, just like the last one. Wealth, smealth. I'm still getting my Benelli M4. Thanks. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 6:59:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Instead of bickering on money go Brrrrtttt. How does ar15 guys protect their own?
What should we be flipping this money into? tangible items to save the value of the money given? |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:02:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:25:05 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought giving everyone free stuff was bad because "socialism". Might as well vote for Andrew yang at this point... All those poor candidates that got ripped for being socialists!! A few months later and China flu and everything is FREE MONEY FOR EVERYONE (except the dopes working hard). Brrrrrrrrrrr! |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:29:00 PM EDT
[#36]
I hope I get mine before Christmas............Ho, Ho, Ho !!!
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:30:38 PM EDT
[#37]
NODs here I come.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:32:38 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So that's not entirely accurate. While inflation has definitely happened, the factor you are not considering is the quality of item your dollar is purchasing today is exponentially better than what you could purchase in 1975. For example a $10,000 economy car today will drive for 250,000 miles without a problem. Try that with a vehicle from 1975. Also, a 43" TV today can be had for less than $300, in 2010, the same size TV (worse quality) would be $1200. Where your argument is true is for everyday purchases like groceries. So inflation effects the poorest people the most. Those considered middle class have arguably more purchasing power today than they did in 1975, even accounting for the loss in value of the dollar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Today’s dollar purchases about 1/10 of what it did 45 years ago. $10 = $1. So that's not entirely accurate. While inflation has definitely happened, the factor you are not considering is the quality of item your dollar is purchasing today is exponentially better than what you could purchase in 1975. For example a $10,000 economy car today will drive for 250,000 miles without a problem. Try that with a vehicle from 1975. Also, a 43" TV today can be had for less than $300, in 2010, the same size TV (worse quality) would be $1200. Where your argument is true is for everyday purchases like groceries. So inflation effects the poorest people the most. Those considered middle class have arguably more purchasing power today than they did in 1975, even accounting for the loss in value of the dollar. True for gasoline, food, homes (which are about 20x but considering better quality in some ways but not others like chipboard instead of plywood so at least 10x). Even China shoes are 10x compared to old times USA. Car maintenance and parts are likely 10x. Cars and electronics being more of the exceptions. But the big life long expenses are at least 10x. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:34:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1294308655718969345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw I have directed @stevenmnuchin1 to get ready to send direct payments ($3,400 for family of four) to all Americans. DEMOCRATS ARE HOLDING THIS UP! It's better for the country for him to do this now to help him win vs doing nothing and increasing the odds of Jo-Ho winning. If Jo-ho wins, then you ain't seen nothing yet with the money printers going BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR x 87. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:39:11 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this real? WTF Politics is a win/lose proposition. Trump is standing in the way of funding blue state governments to the tune of $2T. Give him control of the legislative branch and we might get everything we want. But that's not happening. Choose now. I'd rather families get money than DiBlasio et al get it to pay down their debts. I'm 62 years old. In my lifetime there has never been an election with a choice like we have. It's win most of what we want, or lose everything. Every fucking thing. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:40:13 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not a fan of that either. But at least they will have to get a bill through both chambers and to the president's desk. You know, the right way to do things? As opposed to one dude in the White House deciding he gets to spend a trillion bucks buying votes because it is election season. Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not a fan of that either. But at least they will have to get a bill through both chambers and to the president's desk. You know, the right way to do things? As opposed to one dude in the White House deciding he gets to spend a trillion bucks buying votes because it is election season. Muh constitutional scholar, and the last money he used was FEMA money that he was allowed to use for emergencies. "I'm waiting for the Democrats to approve it," Trump said during a White House press briefing, clarifying that he was not planning to act unilaterally on the stimulus checks. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:43:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pepsi all the way! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Awe yissss one step closer to a GMT Pepsi, red/black, all black or Batman? BatMan first Pepsi all the way! I already have a Pepsi seiko |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:44:13 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: BatMan first Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Awe yissss one step closer to a GMT Pepsi, red/black, all black or Batman? BatMan first Aww yeahhhhh |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:44:53 PM EDT
[#44]
What about family of 9???.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:45:35 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: do some of you have problems with reading or comprehension? the important part is.... DEMOCRATS ARE HOLDING THIS UP! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2917/Trumpimage-20200814-001_jpg-1546016.JPG Exactly! Kinda like what does multiple question marks mean (???) at the end of a group of words  |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:45:44 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ontarians don't qualify. Why not? |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:49:22 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Straight to the saving acct. Why? So you can continue to watch its value erode while just sitting there? Buying a hard asset like NODs or ammo is actually a much smarter course of action. Even putting it into the market to offset some of the loss it's going to experience. In a savings account with its already atrocious interest rate, that Trump is pushing to drop even lower, is just about the worst thing you could do with it. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:52:37 PM EDT
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Trump once again pulling the Republican senate's balls out of the fire.
It is funny though to see retired people on facebook complaining about this. The entire country's economy was shut down because some old people got scared, at the time it was "Lives are more important than the economy!", and now that the reality of destroying everyone's livelihood is setting in these same old people are moaning about fiscal responsibility. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 7:58:08 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So that's not entirely accurate. While inflation has definitely happened, the factor you are not considering is the quality of item your dollar is purchasing today is exponentially better than what you could purchase in 1975. For example a $10,000 economy car today will drive for 250,000 miles without a problem. Try that with a vehicle from 1975. Also, a 43" TV today can be had for less than $300, in 2010, the same size TV (worse quality) would be $1200. Where your argument is true is for everyday purchases like groceries. So inflation effects the poorest people the most. Those considered middle class have arguably more purchasing power today than they did in 1975, even accounting for the loss in value of the dollar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Today’s dollar purchases about 1/10 of what it did 45 years ago. $10 = $1. So that's not entirely accurate. While inflation has definitely happened, the factor you are not considering is the quality of item your dollar is purchasing today is exponentially better than what you could purchase in 1975. For example a $10,000 economy car today will drive for 250,000 miles without a problem. Try that with a vehicle from 1975. Also, a 43" TV today can be had for less than $300, in 2010, the same size TV (worse quality) would be $1200. Where your argument is true is for everyday purchases like groceries. So inflation effects the poorest people the most. Those considered middle class have arguably more purchasing power today than they did in 1975, even accounting for the loss in value of the dollar. This is VERY debatable. I'm still using a Made In America General Electric kitchen mixer that's almost as old as I am. How long you think your typical Made In China mixer sold at Walmart right now will last? How about the quality of construction of a 1970s house versus quality of construction in your average McMansion? Even in your example of the car, you're only kind of right. Who is going to be doing barn finds on a 2005 Honda Accord in 50 years? |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:01:13 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your tax return was due July 15th. Did you file an extension? Lol. We filed ours in early February. Got our stimulus about 7-8 weeks after they were authorized, but still waiting on actual tax returns. Same accounts, same direct deposit, still listed as received and approved and waiting for payment authorization. |
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