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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:31:04 PM EDT
[#1]
This and weed are stupid hills to die on.
I’m not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it’s mostly democrats getting them. Why are we stacking the deck against our own interests? They’re still gonna get abortions. Just like gay guys are still gonna have sex with each other, legally married or not. You don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. They don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Freedom goes both ways. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:32:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This and weed are stupid hills to die on. I'm not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it's mostly democrats getting them. Why are we stacking the deck against our own interests? They're still gonna get abortions. Just like gay guys are still gonna have sex with each other, legally married or not. You don't like abortion? Don't get one. They don't like guns? Don't buy one. Freedom goes both ways. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:32:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Wait, I thought he was a fake Christian?
And your title is misleading - he supports a ban after 15 weeks (second trimester). Anyone who thinks that's controversial wasn't voting for him anyway. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:33:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Trump is a dumbass.
Congressional legislation does not make a abortion ban constitutional, only a ratified amendment can do that. It is a state matter to regulate or not regulate. Congress, like the courts cannot change that. Dipshits, all of them. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:37:14 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is a dumbass. Congressional legislation does not make a abortion ban constitutional, only a ratified amendment can do that. It is a state matter to regulate or not regulate. Congress, like the courts cannot change that. Dipshits, all of them. SCOTUS said it is not constitutionally protected left it to state legislation in the absence of federal legislation. There is nothing stopping federal legislation from banning or permitting, overriding the states. It does NOT have to be a constitutional amendment. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:40:01 PM EDT
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Well unfortunately abortion is a lose/lose issue for republicans and the left knows it.
Sound pro-choice and the religious right may not turn out, and that traditionally is a dependable voting block for republicans. Come out pro-life and you'll lose many women on the right because they vote their pussies over their principles. Try to not take a stand and you get attacked from both camps. Say it is a states' rights issue and it will be spun as you favor a ban because you don't support an absolute right to abortion. It is the most polarizing issue because we were dumb enough to give women the right to vote. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:42:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This and weed are stupid hills to die on. I’m not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it’s mostly democrats getting them. Why are we stacking the deck against our own interests? They’re still gonna get abortions. Just like gay guys are still gonna have sex with each other, legally married or not. You don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. They don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Freedom goes both ways. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:43:14 PM EDT
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Trump is swinging wildly. He's on the ropes and he knows it.
This position will piss everyone off. Evangelical circles I'm in are already crying foul because it allows abortions for 15 weeks. Anyone pro abortion will balk at any kind of ban. Its like he's trying to lose the election. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:43:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SCOTUS said it is not constitutionally protected left it to state legislation in the absence of federal legislation. There is nothing stopping federal legislation from banning or permitting, overriding the states. It does NOT have to be a constitutional amendment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Trump is a dumbass. Congressional legislation does not make a abortion ban constitutional, only a ratified amendment can do that. It is a state matter to regulate or not regulate. Congress, like the courts cannot change that. Dipshits, all of them. SCOTUS said it is not constitutionally protected left it to state legislation in the absence of federal legislation. There is nothing stopping federal legislation from banning or permitting, overriding the states. It does NOT have to be a constitutional amendment. Yes it does. There is no authority in the constitution to regulate abortion. SCOTUS is wrong, and they are protecting the centralising authority set by prescient for Congress to craft 'national' law. They are wrong. This is not a delegated authority outlined under Article 1, Section 10. State matter. God, please let people relearn federalism. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:43:48 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This and weed are stupid hills to die on. I’m not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it’s mostly democrats getting them. Why are we stacking the deck against our own interests? They’re still gonna get abortions. Just like gay guys are still gonna have sex with each other, legally married or not. You don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. They don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Freedom goes both ways. I agree. It’s things like this that will get dems elected. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:45:28 PM EDT
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GOP needs to be silent on the issue. They can say its important but will not be the focus this election cycle. Need to focus on other issues like border security.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:45:53 PM EDT
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The USSC said it is a state’s rights issue.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:45:58 PM EDT
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national, no longer a states rights issue. trump has picked a winner. i think he wants to loose. he's under some secret compulsion from bidet, bidets son or the chycoms.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:47:28 PM EDT
[#14]
So Trump isn’t up to killing babies like the NAZIS and Democrats are?
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:47:36 PM EDT
[#15]
Why is a federal candidate weighing in on a state issue?
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:47:41 PM EDT
[#16]
Grabbing the third rail with both hands.
Hope it works out. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:49:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is a federal candidate weighing in on a state issue? Because Congress/the President, the federal judiciary, doesn't know anything. Nearly everyone in DC is educated in 'constitutional law', aka case law, not constitutional originalism. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:49:30 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is a dumbass. The voters that primaried him are dumbasses |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:49:43 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This and weed are stupid hills to die on. I’m not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it’s mostly democrats getting them. Why are we stacking the deck against our own interests? They’re still gonna get abortions. Just like gay guys are still gonna have sex with each other, legally married or not. You don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. They don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Freedom goes both ways. This. Prohibition doesn't work. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:50:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The voters that primaried him are dumbasses |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:50:51 PM EDT
[#21]
If the Republic needs abortion, let it fall.
I don't care. I'd rather be right with God. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:51:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: GOP needs to be silent on the issue. They can say it's important but will not be the focus this election cycle. Need to focus on other issues like border security. Women lose their fucking minds over this issue. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:51:43 PM EDT
[#23]
The only thing Trump should say about abortion is "it's a state-level issue".
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:54:23 PM EDT
[#24]
"We need to be more like Europe"
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:54:25 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The USSC said it is a state’s rights issue. It is a state issue. Trump is allowed his opinion just like everyone else. My opinion is that abortion is murder. I don’t care what others the Mk about my opinion. He is entitled to his opinion. I also think there should be national ban on performing gender reassignment surgery on minors. Another opinion |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:54:56 PM EDT
[#26]
I guess we have to let a lot of babies die at the hands of their mothers in order to save the Republic.
Should we count them as Killed in Action?  |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:55:02 PM EDT
[#27]
still stepping on your dick, eh donald?
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:55:14 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is a federal candidate weighing in on a state issue? Because free speech and all |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:55:31 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This and weed are stupid hills to die on. I’m not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it’s mostly democrats getting them. Why are we stacking the deck against our own interests? They’re still gonna get abortions. Just like gay guys are still gonna have sex with each other, legally married or not. You don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. They don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Freedom goes both ways. I guess anyone can murder you and you won't have a problem because of freedom? |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:55:44 PM EDT
[#30]
I think this is the definition of an unforced error.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:56:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The USSC said it is a state's rights issue. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:57:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Abortion wouldn't be such the political detriment it appears to be if the messaging is effective. We haven't had that and have been slapped around by the MSM forever on it. It's devolved into an entire industry that's been corrupted to its core, financially benefits a few parties, and preys on young woman. A normal society would treat the issue of unwanted pregnancies in a different manner, with less government interference, so those solutions should be promoted. People need to be educated on this - I've always wondered how exactly does abortion affect a particular individual - does it really have such a severe effect on their lives, such a dramatic impact that it becomes the sole reason for a vote? I posit that most women never have to even deal with it - the outrage has been ginned up by the left purely for political gain. If this becomes messaged properly, it might lessen the impact. To disclose - I am 100% against it. I know life begins at conception and abortion is an evil, however I am not in a position to force what I think on everyone via the threat of violence at the heel of the government boot.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:58:15 PM EDT
[#33]
Abortions are in fact very fiscally conservative.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 12:59:54 PM EDT
[#34]
You know what… I enjoy losing elections too!!
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:00:09 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, I thought he was a fake Christian? And your title is misleading - he supports a ban after 15 weeks (second trimester). Anyone who thinks that's controversial wasn't voting for him anyway. Help me out here. A human pregnancy is typically 40 weeks, right? Abortion from Roe was legalized for pregnancies up until the end of the second trimester. Or ballpark 26-27 weeks. Is that right? If so, then while 15 weeks is within the second trimester (which begins at Week 13 or 14), it's certainly a large restriction from the previous position, and that would be controversial. Where am I wrong? |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:00:40 PM EDT
[#36]
Why would he do that? Why not say something like it's a probably a state matter, and it will be considered more closely later when in office when more resources for additional information are available? Like so many others have wisely stated before, every green haired loony female that no one would ever have sex with is gonna make this a battle cry. Goodness gracious alive....
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:01:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This and weed are stupid hills to die on. I’m not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it’s mostly democrats getting them. Why are we stacking the deck against our own interests? They’re still gonna get abortions. Just like gay guys are still gonna have sex with each other, legally married or not. You don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. They don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Freedom goes both ways. Agreed. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:01:45 PM EDT
[#38]
And this is the day he actually lost the election.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:02:14 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This and weed are stupid hills to die on. I’m not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it’s mostly democrats getting them. Why are we stacking the deck against our own interests? They’re still gonna get abortions. Just like gay guys are still gonna have sex with each other, legally married or not. You don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. They don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Freedom goes both ways. Freedom to live is always nice.... |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:02:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is a federal candidate weighing in on a state issue? Fucking A. Is this so hard to understand? |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:04:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Abortion wouldn't be such the political detriment it appears to be if the messaging is effective. We haven't had that and have been slapped around by the MSM forever on it. It's devolved into an entire industry that's been corrupted to its core and preys on young woman. A normal society would treat the issue of unwanted pregnancies in a different manner, with less government interference. If this becomes messaged properly, it might lessen the impact. To disclose - I am 100% against it. I know life begins at conception and abortion is an evil, however I am not in a position to force what I think on everyone via the threat of violence at the heel of the government boot. You said a phrase and probably don't even realize how central it is and what a powerful driver to abortion it has turned out to be. "Unwanted pregnancies" - decades of you'll ruin your life if you have a baby being pounded into the minds of young people have helped ruin the idea of having babies being a wonderful thing. Not only does it drive women to abortion providers, it plants the seed that kids are a largely negative thing and has greatly contributed to the collapse in birth rate. This is a left and a right problem. We need people to have kids, and have them earlier in life. Also, L-O-fucking-L that only liberals have abortions. 
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:04:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Trump won’t lose against Biden
He’ll lose against his own big mouth |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:06:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is a dumbass. Congressional legislation does not make a abortion ban constitutional, only a ratified amendment can do that. It is a state matter to regulate or not regulate. Congress, like the courts cannot change that. Dipshits, all of them. This, it's a YUGE mistake. With all the problems that we have now, was ANYONE thinking about this? Not only should it be left to the states, but why in the heck bring this up? Is he trying to lose? 
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:07:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes it does. There is no authority in the constitution to regulate abortion. SCOTUS is wrong, and they are protecting the centralising authority set by prescient for Congress to craft 'national' law. They are wrong. This is not a delegated authority outlined under Article 1, Section 10. State matter. God, please let people relearn federalism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Trump is a dumbass. Congressional legislation does not make a abortion ban constitutional, only a ratified amendment can do that. It is a state matter to regulate or not regulate. Congress, like the courts cannot change that. Dipshits, all of them. SCOTUS said it is not constitutionally protected left it to state legislation in the absence of federal legislation. There is nothing stopping federal legislation from banning or permitting, overriding the states. It does NOT have to be a constitutional amendment. Yes it does. There is no authority in the constitution to regulate abortion. SCOTUS is wrong, and they are protecting the centralising authority set by prescient for Congress to craft 'national' law. They are wrong. This is not a delegated authority outlined under Article 1, Section 10. State matter. God, please let people relearn federalism. ICC has been used to allow feds to regulate wheat grown for ones own consumption and to require me, a man, to purchase insurance for birth control. I’m sure .gov can argue murdering babies in the womb impacts commerce. However I agree with your take on how it should work. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:08:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: still stepping on your dick, eh donald? DeSantis does too |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:09:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it’s mostly democrats getting them.  Lemme buy you a beer my guy. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:09:34 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is a federal candidate weighing in on a state issue? I do not understand it. I guess they are stupid or simply crazed with "I am the king/prince/ruler of humanity" type power. Almost all the politicians at the federal level seem to think like this, Just my opinion. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:11:15 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryCan you imagine Haley and DeSantis combining to get almost 20% of the primary vote in Trump's home state, in a race they aren't even participating in? lol |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:11:44 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. It’s things like this that will get dems elected. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This and weed are stupid hills to die on. I’m not in favor of abortion. But it has its place, especially considering it’s mostly democrats getting them. Why are we stacking the deck against our own interests? They’re still gonna get abortions. Just like gay guys are still gonna have sex with each other, legally married or not. You don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. They don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Freedom goes both ways. I agree. It’s things like this that will get dems elected. I agree. It’s things like this that Fixed it for you  |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:11:54 PM EDT
[#50]
Making 2024 about abortion bans is a great way to make sure the Democrats win.
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