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Link Posted: 6/6/2024 9:13:44 AM EST
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JD Vance.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 9:32:39 AM EST
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Carson is obviously intelligent and gives me confidence. I think a great deal of JD Vance but would like to keep him in Ohio for now.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 9:44:01 AM EST
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I like Carson and think that he is the best choice from this list, but it won't get him the win.

If Trump has any chance to win, he needs to pick up Independent woman votes.  Tulsi would be the best option to go after that demographic.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 9:48:52 AM EST
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None of these are great. We have to choose a VP based on them being independently electable in four years.

I don't get there with these choices.

Of those:

Donalds
Carson
Stefanik

What I REALLY want:  

DeSantis (long game)
Ramaswamy (unless we're saving him for Attorney General)
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 9:51:56 AM EST
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I like Carson and think that he is the best choice from this list, but it won't get him the win.

If Trump has any chance to win, he needs to pick up Independent woman votes.  Tulsi would be the best option to go after that demographic.
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You are absolutely right, but she's still pretty far from being able to be trusted.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:01:17 AM EST
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random ...Woman......

I believe he tried to rape her and deserves the 85 million but now I see he is picking a woman as a VP

I will vote for him now  because I was wrong  he likes woman . Makes total sense
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If you say so.


random ...Woman......

I believe he tried to rape her and deserves the 85 million but now I see he is picking a woman as a VP

I will vote for him now  because I was wrong  he likes woman . Makes total sense


Do women make sense to you? Do you find them to be logical creatures?

A man pointing out how he was railroaded with those charges and judgement will be decried as a woman hater from the party that hates women. If a polished woman who managed, and ate alive, the White House Press Corps points out the inconsistencies in the story it goes a lot further in neutralizing it.

A man talking about abortion in any fashion other than taxpayer funded abortions for everybody is dismissed out of hand. A mother who speaks about it does some from a stronger position. I don't like Nicki Haley, but during the debates she was the only Republican who had a somewhat effective position on abortion.

You don't have to win the majority of women, but you need to win a larger minority of them, and a female VP helps in that regard - especially when you are dealing with a presidential candidate that has been "found guilty" of rape and is a "convicted felon." The whole point of what the left has done is to drive a further wedge between the GOP and women. They know they are losing the Black and Hispanic vote slowly but surely, and they can't afford to lose women, so you can bet your ass that abortion and "Trump's treatment of women" will be center stage in the democrat's strategy.

What's your proposal to counter it?
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:03:36 AM EST
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No hawt milf Kristie Noem?  

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She doesn’t have a dog to run in this race.
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Dude Trump doesn't need a woman as a VP pick to try and convince batshit crazies he never tried to rape that crazy bitch or that he doesn't hate women . Most of his top executives in his corporations are women .  

A women VP pick won't fix that .

If a woman after researching this case  still comes to the conclusion he tried to rape her and attacked her in a dressing room they are  either a partisan or just stupid .

A woman VP won't change that thought process .
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If you say so.

ETA my wife used to be a Sanders/Warren devotee. I challenged what she thought she knew and made her question the bullshit she’d been fed. She is more conservative than 87% of ARF easily.

Sometimes you need somebody to challenge your beliefs to get you thinking. Huckabee Sanders can make a very convincing case that the narrative is wrong. No man is going to do that period.



Dude Trump doesn't need a woman as a VP pick to try and convince batshit crazies he never tried to rape that crazy bitch or that he doesn't hate women . Most of his top executives in his corporations are women .  

A women VP pick won't fix that .

If a woman after researching this case  still comes to the conclusion he tried to rape her and attacked her in a dressing room they are  either a partisan or just stupid .

A woman VP won't change that thought process .


The problem is nobody is researching shit. They are taking the media at their word. The only way you get them to question what they believe to be true is to make a convincing argument to the contrary and spoon feed them the truth. You think a man is going to be the one to do that with women?

I managed to do that with my wife because well she was my wife and it was constant exposure day in and day out. That's not the world candidates and voters live in. It is the soundbite. It is who appears sincere. It is who you relae to. Tell me how well that will work with some rando conservative male politician and the female electorate.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:05:36 AM EST
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I disagree.   No one who thinks Trump hates woman will be swayed by Sanders.

He would be better off with Donalds.  Exploit his success with Black men.
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Trump needs a Gov but im not crazy about Burgun.

He needs a woman for helping with abortion but Stefanik isn’t a gov.

Scott is cool and would help with blacks but we dont need SC.

Carson will help with blacks and is a smart man. He just doesn’t fire up voters.

We need Sarah Huckabee Sanders.





Correct and this list might be a head fake. Huckabee Sanders is by far the best choice out there.


No value added.


While I consider you one of the smarter posters here, I will say I couldn’t disagree more.

It counters the argument that he hates women.


Are you suggesting that there is a woman or man out there who refuses to vote for Trump because they believe that “he hates women”…

…and they will change their mind if he nominates Sanders?


I am absolutely suggesting that. When you talk about the lawsuits accusing him of raping a woman (EJ Carrol) and allegedly sleeping with a prostitute (Stormy Daniels) a woman to defend against that who is known to be a strong Christian family woman is a hell of a surrogate. There are a lot of folks on the far right that don’t like Trump, and while they may not vote for Biden, they might not vote at all. Huckabee Sanders speaks to the Christian Right and if she puts her credibility on the line it will help.

There is no other woman I can see on the ticket and I think there is something to be gained by having a woman. Not a big fan of identity politics, but I understand it, and she isn’t just a woman she is an eminently qualified woman.


I disagree.   No one who thinks Trump hates woman will be swayed by Sanders.

He would be better off with Donalds.  Exploit his success with Black men.


OK, which one of them is moving?
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:06:20 AM EST
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Article II states: “The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.”

In a close election, why would anyone risk this becoming an actual issue? Especially with a state like Florida and all its electoral votes?

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I've been saying that for a fucking year. Nobody listens, or nobody is actually aware of what the Constitution says on the matter.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:09:04 AM EST
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Burgum
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I like Carson and think that he is the best choice from this list, but it won't get him the win.

If Trump has any chance to win, he needs to pick up Independent woman votes.  Tulsi would be the best option to go after that demographic.
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Tulsi or Rubio
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:10:14 AM EST
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Maybe he's just playing the press with the lists of potential candidates, and holding her in reserve as a surprise... and to spare her from the MSM flaying her history looking for skeletons for as long as possible.

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Yup, very surprised she isn’t on the list.

Maybe he's just playing the press with the lists of potential candidates, and holding her in reserve as a surprise... and to spare her from the MSM flaying her history looking for skeletons for as long as possible.



Yup, I think (hope) it is a head fake.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:11:52 AM EST
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Dr. Carson is a sharp man....I like him just fine as as a VP
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ya, except he brings no other voting block to the table...cabinet, but not veep

and fuck marco rubio
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:17:18 AM EST
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I'm good with Carson
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:20:05 AM EST
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You think a person can become a world-renowned neurosurgeon while being "too low energy".  This is funny.
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Rather than a person of color or a person of coochie, I think it's a lot more important that he pick a person of youth that matches his energy level. Picking a woman isn't going to make all the women suddenly support him, and the same goes for blacks. I think all of those old conventional electoral truisms are gone for this particular race. People who claim to still be undecided now are likely gonna vote for the dem anyway. The plan should be to get out the vote and harvest the ballots, not change anybody's mind. A good show of energy will energize voters to get out and vote for a change.

Not mutually exclusive.  Donalds is that guy.

Carson is too low energy.

You think a person can become a world-renowned neurosurgeon while being "too low energy".  This is funny.

Of course they can.  Those two things are in no way linked.  Technical proficiency has nothing to do with personality.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:21:56 AM EST
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Tulsi is the better choice for bringing non-maga voting block...

this is a meh list
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:29:41 AM EST
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I Really Want Cruz on the SC
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Why not Ted Cruz?

I really like the way he acts, talks, stands.  

Maybe it’s beneath him. Bering a Senator and all. But seems like a kick ass guy to head up domestic stuff that needs handling

How about we don't weaken the senate?



I Really Want Cruz on the SC


That is the place that he could help us the most
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:31:59 AM EST
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Article II states: “The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.

In a close election, why would anyone risk this becoming an actual issue? Especially with a state like Florida and all its electoral votes?

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More than a bit "Ironic" for a website whose most strident members all claim to be "SUPER Constitutionalists" (but clearly don't seem to have bothered to actually read the US Constitution nor understand the detail & beauty of it).

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Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:32:14 AM EST
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If Trump were some other billionaire, the fact that he was forced to stay in NYC for so many days this year would trigger NY State to go after him and claim that he is a resident (so they could tax him).  

Ironically, I bet NY State has solved the issue for him.

I don't think this an issue anymore, given that the VP is no longer the guy who came in 2nd place.
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Trump needs a Gov but im not crazy about Burgun.

He needs a woman for helping with abortion but Stefanik isn’t a gov.

Scott is cool and would help with blacks but we dont need SC.

Carson will help with blacks and is a smart man. He just doesn’t fire up voters.

We need Sarah Huckabee Sanders.





Correct and this list might be a head fake. Huckabee Sanders is by far the best choice out there.


No value added.


While I consider you one of the smarter posters here, I will say I couldn’t disagree more.

It counters the argument that he hates women.


Are you suggesting that there is a woman or man out there who refuses to vote for Trump because they believe that “he hates women”…

…and they will change their mind if he nominates Sanders?


I am absolutely suggesting that. When you talk about the lawsuits accusing him of raping a woman (EJ Carrol) and allegedly sleeping with a prostitute (Stormy Daniels) a woman to defend against that who is known to be a strong Christian family woman is a hell of a surrogate. There are a lot of folks on the far right that don’t like Trump, and while they may not vote for Biden, they might not vote at all. Huckabee Sanders speaks to the Christian Right and if she puts her credibility on the line it will help.

There is no other woman I can see on the ticket and I think there is something to be gained by having a woman. Not a big fan of identity politics, but I understand it, and she isn’t just a woman she is an eminently qualified woman.


I disagree.   No one who thinks Trump hates woman will be swayed by Sanders.

He would be better off with Donalds.  Exploit his success with Black men.


OK, which one of them is moving?


If Trump were some other billionaire, the fact that he was forced to stay in NYC for so many days this year would trigger NY State to go after him and claim that he is a resident (so they could tax him).  

Ironically, I bet NY State has solved the issue for him.

I don't think this an issue anymore, given that the VP is no longer the guy who came in 2nd place.


The problem is it is untested and this is the age of lawfare and I wouldn't want to leave that to the courts to decide.

As for NY and its tax treatment, I know a little about that having worked within that system for nearly a decade.

They use a test for how many days you are in the state per year, whether overnight or not, and it has to be the majority of the year. Now simply traveling into the state for a meeting counts as a day of "residency" for tax purposes, and it is how the got Martha Stewart on tax evasion. However, residency for tax purposes is not the same as declared residency.

What does he claim is his primary domicile? Where is he registered to vote? Where is his driver's license? What did he claim was his residence on his federal tax forms? Etc.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:35:01 AM EST
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I don't have a problem with Donalds but I thought there was an issue with both president/VP from the same state ?
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Choosing a VP from SwingStates no longer matters.  If you are picking a R senator, rep or gov, without risk of them being backfilled by a D, it ain’t really a Swing State.

Picking a chick won’t get more chicks to vote for you.  Those gals hate you, and women hate each other.

A black man will get more black men.  Donalds is most black, AND most MAGA.


I don't have a problem with Donalds but I thought there was an issue with both president/VP from the same state ?


Yes, it creates electoral college issues that could become a hinderance in what is most likely going to be a very tight race.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:35:28 AM EST
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With what I know so far, Ben Carson would be a good choice.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:36:42 AM EST
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I Really Want Cruz on the SC

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Ted Cruz on the SCOTUS would be an incredible pick - Cruz is still relatively young, so a long term would be possible.  He is legally sharp as a razor and conservative all day long.

Down side is it would open a Texas Senate seat. But we have a Republican Governor & Legislature, so a Republican replacement could be made.

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The problem is it is untested and this is the age of lawfare and I wouldn't want to leave that to the courts to decide.

As for NY and its tax treatment, I know a little about that having worked within that system for nearly a decade.

They use a test for how many days you are in the state per year, whether overnight or not, and it has to be the majority of the year. Now simply traveling into the state for a meeting counts as a day of "residency" for tax purposes, and it is how the got Martha Stewart on tax evasion. However, residency for tax purposes is not the same as declared residency.

What does he claim is his primary domicile? Where is he registered to vote? Where is his driver's license? What did he claim was his residence on his federal tax forms? Etc.
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Trump's Recent Felony Conviction might also be a factor to come into play - the Court normally has to approve any move of person under sentence or probation.

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Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:41:02 AM EST
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The country isn't interested in another hardcore Bible thumper like Pence, despite what the ARFCOM religious folks say.
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Trump’s moral duplicity cancels out any level of Bible thumpage.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:44:57 AM EST
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Trump has never been interested in dissent, especially from someone more knowledgeable than him
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 10:47:28 AM EST
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Carson brings absolutely ZERO voters to the ticket. He’s smart, but not personable.
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Trump's Recent Felony Conviction might also be a factor to come into play - the Court normally has to approve any move of person under sentence or probation.

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The problem is it is untested and this is the age of lawfare and I wouldn't want to leave that to the courts to decide.

As for NY and its tax treatment, I know a little about that having worked within that system for nearly a decade.

They use a test for how many days you are in the state per year, whether overnight or not, and it has to be the majority of the year. Now simply traveling into the state for a meeting counts as a day of "residency" for tax purposes, and it is how the got Martha Stewart on tax evasion. However, residency for tax purposes is not the same as declared residency.

What does he claim is his primary domicile? Where is he registered to vote? Where is his driver's license? What did he claim was his residence on his federal tax forms? Etc.


Trump's Recent Felony Conviction might also be a factor to come into play - the Court normally has to approve any move of person under sentence or probation.

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If anything they would force a move into NYS to either serve incarceration, house confinement, or probation. That would actually solve the problem by removing an argument that he did it for political purposes.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 11:07:40 AM EST
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He would be good maybe as Sec of Education - commie or not, he would make positive changes in Dept of Ed.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 11:12:37 AM EST
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I’m sure it will be a hardline conservative Christian like last time:



LOL!
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Trump has never been interested in dissent, especially from someone more knowledgeable than him
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Why Narcissists Can't Admit Being Wrong, featuring Dr. Guy Winch


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She is kicking ass and taking names as governor of Arkansas. It is like opposing her in Arkansas is a sure fire way to get steam rolled.
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She’s also one of the only, if not the only, female Republicans on the national stage who is known for her executive accomplishments rather than slinging her pussy around and/or being batshit crazy.

I would’ve given her my vote in the GOP nom in a fucking heartbeat.  

Which is why she didn't throw her hat in the ring with Trump.  Best case the ticket loses and she’s a loser candidate. Worst case the ticket wins, and at sone point Trump throws her under the bus to cover up another of his fuckups.

She’s going to be in the discussion for 28, and being on the outskirts of T$ is the safe place to be.  
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 11:18:25 AM EST
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One of these 2...

Doctor Ben Carson
New York Rep. Elise Stefanik
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I've been saying that for a fucking year. Nobody listens, or nobody is actually aware of what the Constitution says on the matter.
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Article II states: “The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.”

In a close election, why would anyone risk this becoming an actual issue? Especially with a state like Florida and all its electoral votes?



I've been saying that for a fucking year. Nobody listens, or nobody is actually aware of what the Constitution says on the matter.


The bigger question is does Trump know what the constitution says? Or at least have someone around him that knows that he'll actually listen to?
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 11:20:37 AM EST
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Carson is a good man but he's older.
We need a young guy to build a bench.
J.D should be the pick
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 11:21:06 AM EST
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Carson is a great man, unfortunatley "great man" doesn't make an electable man.  He isn't dynamic enough to bring in undecided voters.
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Fuck. He probably picked Tim Scott if this list is true. If he gets this guy to be VP, Trump will not last long before they manufacture a way to get him out of the big chair and Scott will be president.

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So fucking this. MAD is the only way.

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Rubio?  
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None of these are great. We have to choose a VP based on them being independently electable in four years.

I don't get there with these choices.

Of those:

Donalds
Carson
Stefanik

What I REALLY want:  

DeSantis (long game)
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Why is there all this love for Ramaswamy as AG?  He’s a fucking pussy.   When Justice will taking a gigantic shit on him, he’s just going to simp for Trump’s antigun picks to lead FBI, ATF, etc.  Sure, he’s not “swamp”, but that’s the problem.  You don’t try to clean up the local trailer park with a shit talking yankee.  You find a smart redneck.  

Trump needs a VP, COS and cabinet secretaries who know the swamp, but don’t live the swamp.  Rammy would be over his head.  

ETA: there’s also no “long game” with Trump.  Everyone on his team needs to be disposable, because he has ZERO loyalty and he WILL throw them under the bus.

That’s why SMART Republicans like Sanders and DeSantis aren’t in the conversation.  They know better.
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Hey, why's Kristi Noem not on that list?! Did I miss something????


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Was hoping to see Robinson on there.
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She’s too busy fucking boy toys and shooting puppies?
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Carson is a low energy dud. The swamp will fucking eat him alive. The only reason he survived the first term is because he was in a do-nothing position that allowed him to lay low and do nothing.
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Calvin Cooledge was low energy as well
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Rumor has it he made the short list of the final three along with Scott and Vance.
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So let’s do a former democrat.  Tulsi.  She is a vet, minority, and most converts to 2A are more diehard than others.  Also I know her personally she is a lot more conservative than many conservative senators and congressmen.
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Are you serious? How well? Shaking her hand at a book signing (for example) does not count as knowing her.
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So let’s do a former democrat.  Tulsi.  She is a vet, minority, and most converts to 2A are more diehard than others.  Also I know her personally she is a lot more conservative than many conservative senators and congressmen.
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Women who would vote for a candidate because they chose a woman VP are known as “democrats”


So let’s do a former democrat.  Tulsi.  She is a vet, minority, and most converts to 2A are more diehard than others.  Also I know her personally she is a lot more conservative than many conservative senators and congressmen.



I’d say she’s just as conservative as trump, maybe even more so.
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No thanks.

https://www.rubio.senate.gov/rubio-reed-king-scott-reintroduce-extreme-risk-protection-order-and-violence-prevention-act


Yeah, the guy who recently endorsed Rick Scott for Senate leader.
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• Florida Sen. Marco Rubio
• Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance
• S.C. Sen. Tim Scott
• N.D. Gov. Doug Burgum
• Florida Rep. Byron Donalds
• New York Rep. Elise Stefanik
• Doctor Ben Carson

No thanks.

https://www.rubio.senate.gov/rubio-reed-king-scott-reintroduce-extreme-risk-protection-order-and-violence-prevention-act

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Dumbest move Trump could make is to pick a VP the deep state could cooperate with.  He needs Ramaswamy in there to scare the shit out of the establishment.

Yeah, the guy who recently endorsed Rick Scott for Senate leader.




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