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Link Posted: 6/6/2024 12:22:23 PM EST
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Whoever the VP pick is, it needs to be somebody who is a slam-dunk candidate for 2028 to carry on. They need to look at this as the next Republican candidate for president; not simply a running mate in this election cycle. The VP pick needs to approach the nomination as the presumptive candidate to run for president in the next cycle. Republicans need to improve their minor league roster to have suitable candidates to call up to the major leagues. They don't seem to do well with that. There is no depth. If Trump were not the nominee, the Republicans would have to scramble to put up a candidate to beat the Biden machine and despite all of Biden's weaknesses, I don't think they could this go around.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 12:30:31 PM EST
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Whoever the VP pick is, it needs to be somebody who is a slam-dunk candidate for 2028 to carry on. They need to look at this as the next Republican candidate for president; not simply a running mate in this election cycle. The VP pick needs to approach the nomination as the presumptive candidate to run for president in the next cycle. Republicans need to improve their minor league roster to have suitable candidates to call up to the major leagues. They don't seem to do well with that. There is no depth. If Trump were not the nominee, the Republicans would have to scramble to put up a candidate to beat the Biden machine and despite all of Biden's weaknesses, I don't think they could this go around.
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Whoever the VP pick is, it needs to be somebody who is a Slam-Dunk Candidate to actually serve as President from 2025 on...

Trump is Pretty Damn Old, and no one wants a Co-Pilot who is at best a "DEI for Votes" selection Vs. Competent & Ready to Go.  

We need someone in the right seat (VP) on the 2024 ticket who can effectively keep America flying if the P.I.C. (Trump) can't.

Bigger_Hammer
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 12:42:53 PM EST
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Whoever the VP pick is, it needs to be somebody who is a slam-dunk candidate for 2028 to carry on. They need to look at this as the next Republican candidate for president; not simply a running mate in this election cycle. The VP pick needs to approach the nomination as the presumptive candidate to run for president in the next cycle. Republicans need to improve their minor league roster to have suitable candidates to call up to the major leagues. They don't seem to do well with that. There is no depth. If Trump were not the nominee, the Republicans would have to scramble to put up a candidate to beat the Biden machine and despite all of Biden's weaknesses, I don't think they could this go around.
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The problem is, most people who would be good candidates in 28 and have any sense, are not going to associate themselves with trump
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 12:54:52 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:00:51 PM EST
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Guess Alex Jones didn’t make the cut…


If those listed, I like Doug the most
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:19:06 PM EST
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This isn't brain surgery, it's politics.
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Rather than a person of color or a person of coochie, I think it's a lot more important that he pick a person of youth that matches his energy level. Picking a woman isn't going to make all the women suddenly support him, and the same goes for blacks. I think all of those old conventional electoral truisms are gone for this particular race. People who claim to still be undecided now are likely gonna vote for the dem anyway. The plan should be to get out the vote and harvest the ballots, not change anybody's mind. A good show of energy will energize voters to get out and vote for a change.

Not mutually exclusive.  Donalds is that guy.

Carson is too low energy.

You think a person can become a world-renowned neurosurgeon while being "too low energy".  This is funny.



This isn't brain surgery, it's politics.

It's fair that you are naive as to what takes in place in climbing the ranks in academic medicine, much less at a place the level of prestige that is Johns Hopkins. I can assure you his auspicious career was a game of politics every day. His time actually spent in operating rooms saving lives was a relatively small fraction how he spent the average day.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:20:35 PM EST
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Alex Jones is being saved to become the next Whitehouse Press Secretary...

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Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:23:29 PM EST
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You guys really didnt learn your lesson the first time around?

Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:27:58 PM EST
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Trump lives in Florida as do two people on the list. The president and vice president cannot be from the same state. Who’s going to relocate?
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The Constitution does not say that the Pres and VP cannot be from the same state.

What it says is that electors from that particular state cannot cast a vote for both if they are from the same state.

That means that they would cast votes for Pres but not for VP in Florida.

In a close race, you could end up with a Republican Pres and Democrat VP as a result.

Picking a VP from a different state, however, would allow the Florida electors to cast ballots for both Pres and VP and put the Republican VP nominee above the Democrat VP nominee in total electoral votes.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:32:31 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:32:46 PM EST
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I like Carson but not sure he is a fighter.  He is going to need someone tough and reliable.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:35:34 PM EST
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Byron Donalds is awesome but it needs to be someone who's not from FL.

If Trump is doing his usual thing, it'll be nobody from that list and he'll pick them after the media wastes all their energy talking shit about the listed "potentials".
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This.  But I sure love the Dr. Carson possibility.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:39:19 PM EST
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I disagree.   No one who thinks Trump hates woman will be swayed by Sanders.

He would be better off with Donalds.  Exploit his success with Black men.
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Trump needs a Gov but im not crazy about Burgun.

He needs a woman for helping with abortion but Stefanik isn’t a gov.

Scott is cool and would help with blacks but we dont need SC.

Carson will help with blacks and is a smart man. He just doesn’t fire up voters.

We need Sarah Huckabee Sanders.





Correct and this list might be a head fake. Huckabee Sanders is by far the best choice out there.


No value added.


While I consider you one of the smarter posters here, I will say I couldn’t disagree more.

It counters the argument that he hates women.


Are you suggesting that there is a woman or man out there who refuses to vote for Trump because they believe that “he hates women”…

…and they will change their mind if he nominates Sanders?


I am absolutely suggesting that. When you talk about the lawsuits accusing him of raping a woman (EJ Carrol) and allegedly sleeping with a prostitute (Stormy Daniels) a woman to defend against that who is known to be a strong Christian family woman is a hell of a surrogate. There are a lot of folks on the far right that don’t like Trump, and while they may not vote for Biden, they might not vote at all. Huckabee Sanders speaks to the Christian Right and if she puts her credibility on the line it will help.

There is no other woman I can see on the ticket and I think there is something to be gained by having a woman. Not a big fan of identity politics, but I understand it, and she isn’t just a woman she is an eminently qualified woman.


I disagree.   No one who thinks Trump hates woman will be swayed by Sanders.

He would be better off with Donalds.  Exploit his success with Black men.



He can't pick Donalds being both from Florida.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:48:48 PM EST
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Agree with this absolutely.
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Not mutually exclusive.  Donalds is that guy.

Carson is too low energy.

Agree with this absolutely.


Agreed.

Carson is low energy, can't pick anyone from Florida without risking an electoral issue with the same state issue, Vance would be a strategically terrible pick to remove from senate, I'm not sure another white male is the most appealing to the electorate so that leaves out Bergum, leaves only Stefanik and Scott.

I agree with others Huckabee Sanders should be considered.

As the list is, I'm going to have to go with Tim Scott.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:49:37 PM EST
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Thanks for posting the actual verbiage.  As crazy as the world has been the last ten years I can see this happening.  Trump has just enough dumb people around him to completely ignore this.  Democrat lawfare around this would make hanging chads look like a jaywalking ticket.
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Article II states: “The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.”

In a close election, why would anyone risk this becoming an actual issue? Especially with a state like Florida and all its electoral votes?




Thanks for posting the actual verbiage.  As crazy as the world has been the last ten years I can see this happening.  Trump has just enough dumb people around him to completely ignore this.  Democrat lawfare around this would make hanging chads look like a jaywalking ticket.


Trump would still be president but who knows the vice president would be.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:50:51 PM EST
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Vance or Carson.

My worry with Carson would be the...not "extreme Christian-ism" ...but I think that needs to be toned down if they want mass appeal and buy in.  "The pyramids are grain silos!" Is not what we need.
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Pick Vance you have a very realistic chance of ending up with Trump completely neutered with a democrat senate later on. Terrible idea.

Link Posted: 6/6/2024 1:53:04 PM EST
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If anything they would force a move into NYS to either serve incarceration, house confinement, or probation. That would actually solve the problem by removing an argument that he did it for political purposes.
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The problem is it is untested and this is the age of lawfare and I wouldn't want to leave that to the courts to decide.

As for NY and its tax treatment, I know a little about that having worked within that system for nearly a decade.

They use a test for how many days you are in the state per year, whether overnight or not, and it has to be the majority of the year. Now simply traveling into the state for a meeting counts as a day of "residency" for tax purposes, and it is how the got Martha Stewart on tax evasion. However, residency for tax purposes is not the same as declared residency.

What does he claim is his primary domicile? Where is he registered to vote? Where is his driver's license? What did he claim was his residence on his federal tax forms? Etc.


Trump's Recent Felony Conviction might also be a factor to come into play - the Court normally has to approve any move of person under sentence or probation.

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If anything they would force a move into NYS to either serve incarceration, house confinement, or probation. That would actually solve the problem by removing an argument that he did it for political purposes.


That is a possibility but why even create the potential for such a legal battle you know the democrats will try to exploit.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 2:11:16 PM EST
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Bannon?
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 2:21:09 PM EST
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Carson doesn't have the temperament to lead.  He seems like a genuinely good guy but he does not project strength.  As for the rest of the list, I don't see anyone that can give 2028 a strong run.  Obviously four years as VP can allow them to make a solid impression if they are active and effective in the position.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 2:27:39 PM EST
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Erik Prince (but he’s probably campaigning for SecDef after his recent podcasts)
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Link Posted: 6/6/2024 2:35:53 PM EST
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You guys are trying to find a ‘28 pres candidate for VP. None of the viable ones will want it because they won’t gamble on tying themselves to Trump.

Someone who doesn’t want to run as pres afterwards (so a true outsider) or someone who could be a good candidate but has a damaged or weak enough brand currently that it’s worth the dice roll.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 2:35:58 PM EST
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She doesn’t have a dog to run in this race.
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No hawt milf Kristie Noem?  

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She doesn’t have a dog to run in this race.


Doesn’t have a goat to run, either.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 2:42:08 PM EST
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Press Secretary is my guess. He is sharp and quick.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 2:56:56 PM EST
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Whoever the VP pick is, it needs to be somebody who is a Slam-Dunk Candidate to actually serve as President from 2025 on...

Trump is Pretty Damn Old, and no one wants a Co-Pilot who is at best a "DEI for Votes" selection Vs. Competent & Ready to Go.  

We need someone in the right seat (VP) on the 2024 ticket who can effectively keep America flying if the P.I.C. (Trump) can't.

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Bingo
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 2:58:36 PM EST
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Press Secretary is my guess. He is sharp and quick.
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He must have a Cabinet position in mind for Ramaswami.

Press Secretary is my guess. He is sharp and quick.

I'm not a Vivak fan.  But honestly.... that would be fucking epic.  And not necessarily a bad call even.  that would be... epic.

Link Posted: 6/6/2024 3:18:08 PM EST
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The bigger question is does Trump know what the constitution says? Or at least have someone around him that knows that he'll actually listen to?
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Article II states: “The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.”

In a close election, why would anyone risk this becoming an actual issue? Especially with a state like Florida and all its electoral votes?



I've been saying that for a fucking year. Nobody listens, or nobody is actually aware of what the Constitution says on the matter.


The bigger question is does Trump know what the constitution says? Or at least have someone around him that knows that he'll actually listen to?


“trUmP iZ dA smArTeSt pERson iN ‘MeriCa! GOd seNt hIM tA saVE uS.”

Listen to any speech Trump gives and it’s very clear what a flunkie dunce he is especially on the founding era.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 3:32:13 PM EST
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No hawt milf Kristie Noem?  

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• Florida Sen. Marco Rubio
• Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance
• S.C. Sen. Tim Scott
• N.D. Gov. Doug Burgum
• Florida Rep. Byron Donalds
• New York Rep. Elise Stefanik
• Doctor Ben Carson

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She shot herself in the foot, so to speak.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 3:42:41 PM EST
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vivek + trump = scorched earth presidency.  not as good a Ghengis Khan, but close enough to vote for  

these others are fucking pussies in comparison
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 3:47:51 PM EST
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You mean Gov. Dances With Dead Dogs?

She'll be lucky to stay in office.
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• Florida Sen. Marco Rubio
• Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance
• S.C. Sen. Tim Scott
• N.D. Gov. Doug Burgum
• Florida Rep. Byron Donalds
• New York Rep. Elise Stefanik
• Doctor Ben Carson

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You mean Gov. Dances With Dead Dogs?

She'll be lucky to stay in office.

Caribou Barbie 2.0
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 3:59:45 PM EST
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No Tucker or Kid Rock on the list? Is he even trying to win??

Lil' Wayne would also be a good option.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 5:05:27 PM EST
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I'm not a Vivak fan.  But honestly.... that would be fucking epic.  And not necessarily a bad call even.  that would be... epic.

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Trump is screwing up not picking him for VP.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 5:16:14 PM EST
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Trump is screwing up not picking him for VP.
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I'm not a Vivak fan.  But honestly.... that would be fucking epic.  And not necessarily a bad call even.  that would be... epic.


Trump is screwing up not picking him for VP.

Because of all the additional fence sitting votes that choice would get him?
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 5:32:26 PM EST
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Trump will likely die of heart attack or be assassinated during his four years. We don’t need a woman running this country. Name a pertinent business they run well, definitely not education. Go with someone who cannot be bought and will kick liberal and commie ass when they take over.
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This....
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At this point I don't see much strong talent in the Republican Party to pick from, too bad Lake lost her bid for Governor (or it was stolen, whatever), a win would have made her a more viable VP choice.
As much as you guys disagree, off those mentioned I would pick

The Democratic Party has zero talent also, wow is America in trouble!!
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 5:44:37 PM EST
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I don't think the country is ready to accept Vivek in that capacity.  Most people don't really like people who are smarter than themselves, but haven't learned to suppress it.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 6:12:40 PM EST
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DeSantis is not on that list.  Weren't a bunch of posters here pushing the idea of DeSantis as VP?  

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Whoever the VP pick is, it needs to be somebody who is a slam-dunk candidate for 2028 to carry on. They need to look at this as the next Republican candidate for president; not simply a running mate in this election cycle. The VP pick needs to approach the nomination as the presumptive candidate to run for president in the next cycle. Republicans need to improve their minor league roster to have suitable candidates to call up to the major leagues. They don't seem to do well with that. There is no depth. If Trump were not the nominee, the Republicans would have to scramble to put up a candidate to beat the Biden machine and despite all of Biden's weaknesses, I don't think they could this go around.
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You're funny.  The VP candidate needs to be a throwaway with no future because he'll end up the same way as Pence.
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Latino and a damn sight more conservative than Trump.  Growing Latino populations in 2 critical swing states. If the Dems lawfare Article 2 after the election, Rubio is dropped as ineligible, T$ appoints one of his kids, Rubio gets T$’s backing for Senate majority leader.
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You guys are trying to find a ‘28 pres candidate for VP. None of the viable ones will want it because they won’t gamble on tying themselves to Trump.

Someone who doesn’t want to run as pres afterwards (so a true outsider) or someone who could be a good candidate but has a damaged or weak enough brand currently that it’s worth the dice roll.
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This.  

Anyone who fills VP, State, Defense, Justice or Treasury stands a very good chance of getting thrown under the bus.
Link Posted: 6/6/2024 7:52:39 PM EST
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Carson.
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I think he is going to pick a woman because it is the most pandering.
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The vetting paperwork:

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So every brain surgeon who has climbed the "ranks in academic medicine" is qualified to be an effective politician?

And I'm the one who is naive?   lol


If you don't believe that Carson is "too low energy" to be Trump's VP, why not ask Trump?

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."


Ouch.
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Rather than a person of color or a person of coochie, I think it's a lot more important that he pick a person of youth that matches his energy level. Picking a woman isn't going to make all the women suddenly support him, and the same goes for blacks. I think all of those old conventional electoral truisms are gone for this particular race. People who claim to still be undecided now are likely gonna vote for the dem anyway. The plan should be to get out the vote and harvest the ballots, not change anybody's mind. A good show of energy will energize voters to get out and vote for a change.

Not mutually exclusive.  Donalds is that guy.

Carson is too low energy.

You think a person can become a world-renowned neurosurgeon while being "too low energy".  This is funny.



This isn't brain surgery, it's politics.

It's fair that you are naive as to what takes in place in climbing the ranks in academic medicine, much less at a place the level of prestige that is Johns Hopkins. I can assure you his auspicious career was a game of politics every day. His time actually spent in operating rooms saving lives was a relatively small fraction how he spent the average day.


So every brain surgeon who has climbed the "ranks in academic medicine" is qualified to be an effective politician?

And I'm the one who is naive?   lol


If you don't believe that Carson is "too low energy" to be Trump's VP, why not ask Trump?

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."


Ouch.

Nobody is entertaining false dichotomy that every neurosurgeon is qualified to be an effective politician.  If you think Ben Carson doesn't have what it takes to be an effective politician, that is fair.  But saying it's because he is "low energy" is simply ridiculous and laughable. Fact is that "Low energy persons" don't make it through 7 grueling years of a Neurosurgery Residency working 110-120 hours a week, which is very likely what he had to endure at the time he trained and no work hour restrictions existed. In spite of the soft-spoken demeanor, the man is more "high energy" than anyone else on that list.

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