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Quoted: Funny story - Back when I was a local LEO, I saw a car blow thru a stop sign near a school, which was dismissing. Initiated traffic stop. Out of state tags......New York tags, to be exact. Info comes back negative stolen, blah blah blah. I get out of my car to see wtf this dude is thinking, and I'm met with the occupant holding a badge and just looking ahead. An NYPD badge. I tell him - "ok, cool. I need your license and registration please". NYPD cops jaw drops and he gets dickish with me. He tells me that "up north, cops don't pull over other cops". I told him we do things differently here down south, and he just starts grumbling to himself. I gave him a ticket. Not because he was a dickhead trying to use his badge to get out of a ticket, but because he could have actually fucking killed a kid. Moral of the story? Fuck your "courtesy". If you endanger others, you deserve what you get. You deserve it even more if you have a badge, because you enforce the very laws you just fucking broke. ETA: I was not well-liked by my peers due to this mentality. I had the last laugh though- I moved on to nuke land and my starting pay was more than the brass at my old agency. View Quote We can hang out. Lead by example. Cops are some of the worse drivers around here. I drive a schoolbus. |
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Before my move here, I was over here getting stuff ready for my move.
Nice lady at rental company gave me an upgrade to a huge SUV. It was so quiet that I found myself hitting 90mph thinking I was doing 70mph. Anyway - late afternoon I find myself on a laser straight 2 lane through a desert environment. I can see to the horizon for miles behind and in front - nobody else around. So, I let the speed creep up. Eventually found a "pimped" suv in front - illegally dark tints, gaudy alloy wheels etc Overtook at about 70mph. Gradually left it behind. 10 mins later it appears behind out of nowhere - just as I said to myself "Hmm I wonder is it a cop" - it lit up like a Christmas tree. He approached. Pointed out 100+ mph. I showed remorse and understood he had a job to do but pointed to horizon 10 miles in every direction with no other car or house and smooth straight road etc. He explained that up to 99 was a ticket. 100 and over was arrest and jail overnight then court in morning in that State ! I said that was embarrassing for a foreign retired cop moving to the US. He explained the stop was logged so he had to do something. Recorded it as 80 instead of 100+ and gave me option of 1 day drivers school. Which was very nice of him. I learned so much on that one day of school that I took the AZ drivers license written test with no further study - and passed first time. And drive a bit less playfully now........ Edit - human nature to "help" those you feel "deserve" help. Exists in every walk of life. Whether its helping your kid or a friends kid at a job interview by making a call to a friend in high places. Or a golf club member giving the contract to another member over other tenders. Or making a call to help your kid get a college place Etc etc etc Very few have never "helped" another person.................... |
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There is no speed limit on the NYS Thruway if you have a family member who is a New York State Trooper. Lots of courtesy catch and release among LEO's and their families.
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Quoted: Wow just fucking wow I can't fucking believe anyone thinks this is ok. View Quote Connections, the good ol boy network, whatever you call it has always existed and it always will. All men are not equal. Instead of bitching about it, position yourself to benefit. Get connected. Trying to change it is a Sisyphean task. I’m ok with it because I understand human nature, and realize the perfect, equal world is unattainable. |
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In this thread we find out who's ok with corruption.
I've never understood people that would brag about this. |
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Quoted: In this thread we find out who's ok with corruption. I've never understood people that would brag about this. View Quote And these same people though it was crazy that Hillary and the rest of the Clinton bullshit went unpunished haha. It starts somewhere... Maybe some should look in the mirror. |
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My Dad just kept his police ID next to his license. I only ever saw him get pulled over one time and it did the trick.
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Quoted: Here's a little piece of life advice. Don't get shitty with other people when the world doesn't conform to the perfect version that exists in your head. It's your problem, not theirs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I pulled over a car once, ran a stop sign. Walked up to the car, the driver was a Marine, in uniform. He already had his license out, and I was like, "Yeah, I don't need that. Watch those signs. Have a nice day." Uniform worked better than any card. Some people you just don't write. Never wrote cops, firemen, or military people. This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever read. Some animals are more equal than others I guess. People like you might or might not be the cause of the downfall of the Republic, but you certainly are a sign of its degradation. I'm sure you've thoroughly rationalized this internally and you're obviously older and set in your ways so I don't expect you to see why such things are odious to liberty. Here's a little piece of life advice. Don't get shitty with other people when the world doesn't conform to the perfect version that exists in your head. It's your problem, not theirs. How about not being fucking corrupt? |
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Quoted: In this thread we find out who's ok with corruption. I've never understood people that would brag about this. View Quote No shit... And it's the same ones that crow the loudest about muh tHiN bLuE LiNe. The same ones that accept and carry cards will be the first ones to take your guns and other unconstitutional acts with their jack boots on the necks of the People |
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Quoted: It’s corrupt for an officer to have discretion? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How about not being fucking corrupt? It’s corrupt for an officer to have discretion? It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards |
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Quoted: And these same people though it was crazy that Hillary and the rest of the Clinton bullshit went unpunished haha. It states somewhere. Maybe some should look in the mirror. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In this thread we find out who's ok with corruption. I've never understood people that would brag about this. And these same people though it was crazy that Hillary and the rest of the Clinton bullshit went unpunished haha. It states somewhere. Maybe some should look in the mirror. Bears repeating... Corruption breeds more corruption |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I pulled over a car once, ran a stop sign. Walked up to the car, the driver was a Marine, in uniform. He already had his license out, and I was like, "Yeah, I don't need that. Watch those signs. Have a nice day." Uniform worked better than any card. Some people you just don't write. Never wrote cops, firemen, or military people. This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever read. Some animals are more equal than others I guess. People like you might or might not be the cause of the downfall of the Republic, but you certainly are a sign of its degradation. I'm sure you've thoroughly rationalized this internally and you're obviously older and set in your ways so I don't expect you to see why such things are odious to liberty. Here's a little piece of life advice. Don't get shitty with other people when the world doesn't conform to the perfect version that exists in your head. It's your problem, not theirs. How about not being fucking corrupt? The whole “political contributors” thing I understand. We don’t have elected LEO where I’m at so that’s not thing. But you really think it’s corruption for an LEO not to write Paramedics, Firefighters, or nice old ladies on their way to church on a Sunday morning? |
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Quoted: Connections, the good ol boy network, whatever you call it has always existed and it always will. All men are not equal. Instead of bitching about it, position yourself to benefit. Get connected. Trying to change it is a Sisyphean task. I’m ok with it because I understand human nature, and realize the perfect, equal world is unattainable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Wow just fucking wow I can't fucking believe anyone thinks this is ok. Connections, the good ol boy network, whatever you call it has always existed and it always will. All men are not equal. Instead of bitching about it, position yourself to benefit. Get connected. Trying to change it is a Sisyphean task. I’m ok with it because I understand human nature, and realize the perfect, equal world is unattainable. Yes this is known But the good old boys normally have the brains to keep that shit hidden. Eventually the peasants will get uppity. |
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Quoted: No, sir, I don’t know. That’s why I asked for your driver’s license. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "Do you know who I am?!" is real. No, sir, I don’t know. That’s why I asked for your driver’s license. A couple of years ago I was talking to a semi local LEO at the range. I asked him about the "Do you know who you're talking to?" people he runs into. His face lit up like a Christmas tree and he told me that trying to pull that crap on him is an automatic ticket AND he looks for any add-on he can find. He also said that he pays no attention to whatever stickers people put on their vehicles...either way. He also added that he tends to let good working stiff off unless they are assholes and work at it. He also said the Do you know who you are talking to are a lot scarcer than one would think. They're out there but they are not as common as some people think. |
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Quoted: It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: The whole “political contributors” thing I understand. We don’t have elected LEO where I’m at so that’s not thing. But you really think it’s corruption for an LEO not to write Paramedics, Firefighters, or nice old ladies on their way to church on a Sunday morning? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I pulled over a car once, ran a stop sign. Walked up to the car, the driver was a Marine, in uniform. He already had his license out, and I was like, "Yeah, I don't need that. Watch those signs. Have a nice day." Uniform worked better than any card. Some people you just don't write. Never wrote cops, firemen, or military people. This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever read. Some animals are more equal than others I guess. People like you might or might not be the cause of the downfall of the Republic, but you certainly are a sign of its degradation. I'm sure you've thoroughly rationalized this internally and you're obviously older and set in your ways so I don't expect you to see why such things are odious to liberty. Here's a little piece of life advice. Don't get shitty with other people when the world doesn't conform to the perfect version that exists in your head. It's your problem, not theirs. How about not being fucking corrupt? The whole “political contributors” thing I understand. We don’t have elected LEO where I’m at so that’s not thing. But you really think it’s corruption for an LEO not to write Paramedics, Firefighters, or nice old ladies on their way to church on a Sunday morning? You answered your own question |
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Quoted: My uncle was a high level mason and active in veteran's organizations. He had a deck of courtesy cards thicker than his wallet. He was pulled over a few times while I was with him. He always had a card from the Sheriff or the Chief. He passed this Saturday morning at 95. I miss him terribly and I'm not the only one. View Quote Am I the only one that read that as the guy literally passed you going 95? I need to to get out of the house I think. |
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Quoted: I don't think you know what that word means, unless you're assuming all the cards are bought and sold. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about not being fucking corrupt? It's corrupt for an officer to have discretion? It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards The mere fact they exist is corrupt and that is an indisputable fact |
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Quoted: A couple of years ago I was talking to a semi local LEO at the range. I asked him about the "Do you know who you're talking to?" people he runs into. His face lit up like a Christmas tree and he told me that trying to pull that crap on him is an automatic ticket AND he looks for any add-on he can find. He also said that he pays no attention to whatever stickers people put on their vehicles...either way. View Quote I worked with a guy who did that in his nice Queens precinct, he was transferred to the ghetto in Brownsville the next week. I guess the motorist actually did know someone. |
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Quoted: The mere fact they exist is corrupt and that is an indisputable fact View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about not being fucking corrupt? It's corrupt for an officer to have discretion? It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards So all the states that give veterans special license plates and markings on their licenses are corrupt in your eyes too... or are you picking and choosing? Alrighty then. |
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Quoted: I pulled over a car once, ran a stop sign. Walked up to the car, the driver was a Marine, in uniform. He already had his license out, and I was like, "Yeah, I don't need that. Watch those signs. Have a nice day." Uniform worked better than any card. Some people you just don't write. Never wrote cops, firemen, or military people. View Quote Read: Some people are just above the law. This sort of mentality is one of the many reasons people have such distaste towards LEOs these days. |
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Quoted: So all the states that give veterans special license plates and markings on their licenses are corrupt in your eyes too... or are you picking and choosing? Alrighty then. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about not being fucking corrupt? It's corrupt for an officer to have discretion? It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards So all the states that give veterans special license plates and markings on their licenses are corrupt in your eyes too... or are you picking and choosing? Alrighty then. CoC #6 ~Subnet Please cite any local, state, or federal law that explicitly allows for the creation and distribution of courtesy cards. You can choose from literally any city, county, or state in the entire country. I'll wait |
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Story is rumored the man blew his horn and was pulled over for it. I guess gives you the right to storm out of your car towards the officer if you’re a judge. Glad the officer has restraint. I can see why the judge is mad but he shouldn’t have got out and had that demeanor about approaching the officers car.
https://youtu.be/C6n_SC5xgeA |
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My LTC seems to work pretty well.
Except for State Troopers. It took a literal act of God to get out of a soul crushing, job destroying ticket once. ONCE. |
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Quoted: CoC #6 ~Subnet Please cite any local, state, or federal law that explicitly allows for the creation and distribution of courtesy cards. You can choose from literally any city, county, or state in the entire country. I'll wait View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about not being fucking corrupt? It's corrupt for an officer to have discretion? It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards So all the states that give veterans special license plates and markings on their licenses are corrupt in your eyes too... or are you picking and choosing? Alrighty then. CoC #6 ~Subnet Please cite any local, state, or federal law that explicitly allows for the creation and distribution of courtesy cards. You can choose from literally any city, county, or state in the entire country. I'll wait Laws restrict what you're allowed to do. So if there's no law that means its allowed so..... |
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Quoted: Laws restrict what you're allowed to do. So if there's no law that means its allowed so..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about not being fucking corrupt? It's corrupt for an officer to have discretion? It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards So all the states that give veterans special license plates and markings on their licenses are corrupt in your eyes too... or are you picking and choosing? Alrighty then. CoC #6 ~Subnet Please cite any local, state, or federal law that explicitly allows for the creation and distribution of courtesy cards. You can choose from literally any city, county, or state in the entire country. I'll wait Laws restrict what you're allowed to do. So if there's no law that means its allowed so..... His strawman was equating veteran license plates that have gone through a state's congressional voting process to institutionalized corruption by way of distributing courtesy cards |
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Dunno about cards, but a friend of mine got pulled over by a local department some years back. Got ticketed. After receiving the ticket, he inquired about his ex-neighbor, who worked for the same department. The officer was visibly unhappy about ticketing him, being a friend of the other officer and asked why he didn't tell him that sooner. My friend told him because he figured he deserved the ticket and wasn't trying to get out of it.
Apparently, the guy called my friend's ex-neighbor immediately and told him what happened and apologized. Dude told him not to worry about it and called my friend, laughing his ass off. Guess he and the other officer didn't get along so well and he was worried my friend's ex-neighbor was going to get mad over it. He IS a big dude, but not the type to get uptight over anything so trivial. So, no cards or nothing, but I'm pretty sure he could have name dropped and got out of the ticket. |
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Former Sheriff in my area "deputized" friends and donors. They all got Sheriff ID cards and badge. A lot of my friends got them. Personally, I didn't get one and probably wouldn't carry it anyway. My feeling is trying to use it on the wrong PO could make things worse for you. My understanding is the new Sheriff didn't continue the practice.
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Quoted: Laws restrict what you’re allowed to do. So if there’s no law that means its allowed so..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about not being fucking corrupt? It's corrupt for an officer to have discretion? It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards So all the states that give veterans special license plates and markings on their licenses are corrupt in your eyes too... or are you picking and choosing? Alrighty then. Nice straw man, jack boot Please cite any local, state, or federal law that explicitly allows for the creation and distribution of courtesy cards. You can choose from literally any city, county, or state in the entire country. I'll wait Laws restrict what you’re allowed to do. So if there’s no law that means its allowed so..... And there are laws that specifically restrict courtesy cards. I assume from your username you are in California. California Penal Code Section 67.5 PC & 68 PC Someone acts with “corrupt intent” when they act in order to unlawfully gain a financial or other form of advantage for themselves or for someone else. |
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Quoted: You don’t understand how laws work. You’ll wait. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Please cite any local, state, or federal law that explicitly allows for the creation and distribution of courtesy cards. You can choose from literally any city, county, or state in the entire country. I'll wait You don’t understand how laws work. You’ll wait. OK, *redacted* |
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Quoted: NYPD has cards for different ranks. I will have to dig out the minature badge they use to hand out. https://i.imgur.com/UmWq5c4.jpg View Quote I have one from a good friend of mine. Used it once when I got pulled over for a left turn where it wasn't permitted. It worked. @Extorris Since you are the resident NYPD expert... Do the shields work better than PBA cards? Since my buddy retired due to leukemia, I don't receive PBA cards on regular bases anymore. |
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Quoted: This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever read. Some animals are more equal than others I guess. People like you might or might not be the cause of the downfall of the Republic, but you certainly are a sign of its degradation. I'm sure you've thoroughly rationalized this internally and you're obviously older and set in your ways so I don't expect you to see why such things are odious to liberty. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I pulled over a car once, ran a stop sign. Walked up to the car, the driver was a Marine, in uniform. He already had his license out, and I was like, "Yeah, I don't need that. Watch those signs. Have a nice day." Uniform worked better than any card. Some people you just don't write. Never wrote cops, firemen, or military people. This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever read. Some animals are more equal than others I guess. People like you might or might not be the cause of the downfall of the Republic, but you certainly are a sign of its degradation. I'm sure you've thoroughly rationalized this internally and you're obviously older and set in your ways so I don't expect you to see why such things are odious to liberty. I think he forgot nurses and doctors. |
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Quoted: I can’t argue with that. Also, it’s easier to keep the information under control with less eyes around. Here is one example of many that have happened with Sheriffs pocketing money from the jail food funds. From 2019 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383515/FFAD4B01-5CEC-4889-A127-EC873F924048_png-1378624.JPG Link ETA. There are “bad” people everywhere, regardless of geographic location, race or sex. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Some of the most blatantly corrupt police agencies are rural, and southern. But let's not talk about that, m'kay? I can’t argue with that. Also, it’s easier to keep the information under control with less eyes around. Here is one example of many that have happened with Sheriffs pocketing money from the jail food funds. From 2019 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383515/FFAD4B01-5CEC-4889-A127-EC873F924048_png-1378624.JPG Link ETA. There are “bad” people everywhere, regardless of geographic location, race or sex. Whats with you southern boys and church scandals. |
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Quoted: It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about not being fucking corrupt? It’s corrupt for an officer to have discretion? It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards Would military folk who hand their ID over with their DL etc also be complacent in it? Considering their military ID has jack and dick to do with the actual stop. |
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Quoted: CoC #6 ~Subnet Please cite any local, state, or federal law that explicitly allows for the creation and distribution of courtesy cards. You can choose from literally any city, county, or state in the entire country. I'll wait View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about not being fucking corrupt? It's corrupt for an officer to have discretion? It's corrupt to give/have the cards/plates/badges/etc Either apply the same discretion across the board or not at all. There would be no use for the corruption gang cards So all the states that give veterans special license plates and markings on their licenses are corrupt in your eyes too... or are you picking and choosing? Alrighty then. CoC #6 ~Subnet Please cite any local, state, or federal law that explicitly allows for the creation and distribution of courtesy cards. You can choose from literally any city, county, or state in the entire country. I'll wait You're asking what law allows people to print words on pieces of paper? Wait till you find out about business cards! |
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Perhaps it is numbers, but I know I made a $300ish donation to a pet project of my chief of police last year, and the next month I got a $300 ticket for not mowing my yard - so it did not work well for me. FWIW, because of that @#$@#$ ticket I am in the process of moving and have drastically cut all donations to bastards in this town.
The ticket was the result of a push by the city council. They did a survey a few months afterwards to see how pleased the town was for their efforts to keep it beautiful. They refused to publish the results, only to say they were quite negative and contained a number of threats. —- My favorite was a proposed “courtesy card” system for handling certain speeding tickets. You would pay up front for the cards, so when you got stopped, you could hand one over and avoid it going on your record. It was prepaid citations. |
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Quoted: His strawman was equating veteran license plates that have gone through a state's congressional voting process to institutionalized corruption by way of distributing courtesy cards View Quote Should it be illegal for a less qualified person to be hired over a more qualified person - because they know the boss, owner, county commissioner, etc? Should it be illegal for me to go into the county permit office and get my permit approved quicker, because the office manager is one of my good friends mom? Should it be illegal for Trump to fire more qualified appointees and appoint less qualified ones based on the personal politics of the individual? Life isn’t fair, never was, never will be. It’s up to you to develop connections that benefit you in life. “But it shouldn’t be this way!” Oh? The perfect theoretical works doesn’t exist. And howling about but it should will get you no where. Being an anti-social, autistic GD poster, “I hate people” personality will work against you in real life. Just being personable, affable, confident and willing to interact positively with people in daily life can take you far. |
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