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Diaz may not look like he,s ripped , but the man has
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Connor brought the skill , will and gameplan. Great fighter. How does he not bring the cardio? There's a reason these guys cut so much weight. Having done a little bjj it's AMAZING how fast you can get tired. That was 30 pounds ago And I wasn't getting punched in the face which zaps your cardio really, really bad. He didn't cut. He went UP in weight class by 25 lbs? More muscle means that muscle needs more oxygen. Going up in weight is never gonna give you more stamina. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Next time they fight...UFCs going to make bazillions. View Quote This! I'm not a big conspiracy guy but.... Connor losing twice to Nate is simply bad for everyone! It's bad for the UFC, It's bad for MMA, it's bad for Connor, hell it's even bad for Nate. The $$$$ is in Connor fighting @145/155 and then fighting Nate a 3rd time. 2 losses in a row kills the whole Connor golden goose .... |
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Connor brought the skill , will and gameplan. Great fighter. How does he not bring the cardio? There's a reason these guys cut so much weight. Having done a little bjj it's AMAZING how fast you can get tired. That was 30 pounds ago And I wasn't getting punched in the face which zaps your cardio really, really bad. He didn't cut. He went UP in weight class by 25 lbs? That's my point. He has to diet and exercise a great deal to make 145. He's carrying way more weight than he is used to in fights. Having to diet and exercise so hard to make 145 will help his cardio. |
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Connor brought the skill , will and gameplan. Great fighter. How does he not bring the cardio? View Quote Going up in weight means you're... heavier. And he's probably used to putting away guys sooner than that. I've been watching the Diaz brothers fight since the Diego Sanchez days. Congrats to both fighters for making the UFC untold amounts of money. |
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Some of the best fighters don't look like fighters. It's kind of a mind-fuck. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Diaz may not look like he,s ripped , but the man has great stamina , he does a lot of ironman & triathlons thats why his cardio is so good Some of the best fighters don't look like fighters. It's kind of a mind-fuck. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile True that. Prime BJ Penn looked like a little turd. He could twist me into a pretzel on his worst day. |
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This! I'm not a big conspiracy guy but.... Connor losing twice to Nate is simply bad for everyone! It's bad for the UFC, It's bad for MMA, it's bad for Connor, hell it's even bad for Nate. The $$$$ is in Connor fighting @145/155 and then fighting Nate a 3rd time. 2 losses in a row kills the whole Connor golden goose .... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Next time they fight...UFCs going to make bazillions. This! I'm not a big conspiracy guy but.... Connor losing twice to Nate is simply bad for everyone! It's bad for the UFC, It's bad for MMA, it's bad for Connor, hell it's even bad for Nate. The $$$$ is in Connor fighting @145/155 and then fighting Nate a 3rd time. 2 losses in a row kills the whole Connor golden goose .... Connor won that fight. It wasn't close enough for conspiracy theories |
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Fucking suck it Diaz. Aldo, you're up for another beating. Fuck yes McGregor.
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Was at that fight. Was the best fight I have ever seen. In person or on TV. Not even close. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's the best fight I've ever seen. I'd like to see a third fight. Lawler v Mcdonald 2 Was at that fight. Was the best fight I have ever seen. In person or on TV. Not even close. What was it like inside the building? Im jealous. |
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True that. Prime BJ Penn looked like a little turd. He could twist me into a pretzel on his worst day. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Diaz may not look like he,s ripped , but the man has great stamina , he does a lot of ironman & triathlons thats why his cardio is so good Some of the best fighters don't look like fighters. It's kind of a mind-fuck. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile True that. Prime BJ Penn looked like a little turd. He could twist me into a pretzel on his worst day. Chuck Lidell looked like a biker uncle with a beer belly. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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View Quote Annnnnnd he still got his ass whooped |
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That was deep into the ass whooping. Watching that fight I could only compare McGregor's technical game plan to pulling a Mayweather. He knew what he had to do, even if it wasn't what the crowd wanted, and he stuck to it. Pointed Diaz to death, while also fucking his face up pretty good along the way. |
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Was just reading some Twitter replies posted in a news article about the fight.
One said "Nate Diaz got punched so much that his face looked like Nick Diaz." Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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No post fight press conference because the almost 400 million dollar doesn't have a room that size. WTF
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Next time they fight...UFCs going to make bazillions. This! I'm not a big conspiracy guy but.... Connor losing twice to Nate is simply bad for everyone! It's bad for the UFC, It's bad for MMA, it's bad for Connor, hell it's even bad for Nate. The $$$$ is in Connor fighting @145/155 and then fighting Nate a 3rd time. 2 losses in a row kills the whole Connor golden goose .... Connor won that fight. It wasn't close enough for conspiracy theories I skipped a couple pages, but I saw it just like the judges, with the exception of the 10-8 round 3. Rounds 1 & 4 were clear Connor. Round 3 was clear Diaz. Round 2 was close, I called Connor by the virtue of the 2 knockdowns early in the round, but the last 90 seconds or so you could see Round 3 coming from Diaz. IMO, not enough to swing the round, but it was close. Round 5 was close. Diaz had a lot of control, but it was ineffective control. The takedown at the end, IMO, won that round for Diaz. Thus 48-47 Connor, and I think that's the way most people saw it as well. Connor fought a great fight. He couldn't knock Diaz out - probably the only opponent he's faced that issue with - but he game planned appropriately, and the low kicks were a masterful way to both take power out of Diaz and keep the distance open so Connor could score points. I didn't think he had it in him, honestly, but I thought that was the only way he could win. |
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That was deep into the ass whooping. Watching that fight I could only compare McGregor's technical game plan to pulling a Mayweather. He knew what he had to do, even if it wasn't what the crowd wanted, and he stuck to it. Pointed Diaz to death, while also fucking his face up pretty good along the way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Annnnnnd he still got his ass whooped That was deep into the ass whooping. Watching that fight I could only compare McGregor's technical game plan to pulling a Mayweather. He knew what he had to do, even if it wasn't what the crowd wanted, and he stuck to it. Pointed Diaz to death, while also fucking his face up pretty good along the way. That's the perfect way to put it. He had a narrow path to victory, and that path revolved around cutting Diaz's power down with the kicks and counterpunching - and NOT getting exposed to Diaz's power. He saw it, and he took it. A lot of growth in him as a fighter from these two fights. As he said after, you win, or you learn. He took that to heart. |
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Also see Mike Zambidis vs Chahid Oulad El Hadj 1 Holly shit what a war that was! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I skipped a couple pages, but I saw it just like the judges, with the exception of the 10-8 round 3. Rounds 1 & 4 were clear Connor. Round 3 was clear Diaz. Round 2 was close, I called Connor by the virtue of the 2 knockdowns early in the round, but the last 90 seconds or so you could see Round 3 coming from Diaz. IMO, not enough to swing the round, but it was close. Round 5 was close. Diaz had a lot of control, but it was ineffective control. The takedown at the end, IMO, won that round for Diaz. Thus 48-47 Connor, and I think that's the way most people saw it as well. Connor fought a great fight. He couldn't knock Diaz out - probably the only opponent he's faced that issue with - but he game planned appropriately, and the low kicks were a masterful way to both take power out of Diaz and keep the distance open so Connor could score points. I didn't think he had it in him, honestly, but I thought that was the only way he could win. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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On a more positive note we were able to watch two girls from my gym fight last night on a smaller outfit. MMAfutures is the name of it. The streaming was kind of shitty, but for $10 it was worth the watch. Some really good guys pitted against some total amateurs. Damn, train before you step in the ring.
Our girls both fought for the first time last night. One won by mounting and beating down her opponent, the other lost in a decision. Good for them. They both trained hard for this and looked good. |
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Guys like Nate Diaz it's the reason you carry a gun. What I mean is, there is no way to make some guys quit. View Quote Very true, Diaz is 1 tough hombre. Factor drugs into the equation on the street and you would be forced to break something for a perp to stop. And then he might still keep coming. The super human stregnth factor induced then is also what is scary. |
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Connor brought the skill , will and gameplan. Great fighter. How does he not bring the cardio? Carrying more weight than he is used too. He weighed in at 168 for this fight. He usually fights at 145. I bet he wasn't carrying much extra weight. I bet he normally walks around at 165-170. Not terribly uncommon for fighters to cut 20-30lbs |
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Just caught the fight. As much a a Conor fan boy I am I kinda feel like Diaz got robbed. Great fucking fight though, can't wait for pt. 3. |
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Fucking suck it Diaz. Aldo, you're up for another beating. Fuck yes McGregor. Edit: Fuck the judge who scored round three 10-8 Diaz. Jack ass. I think the commission added some changes to the scoring process that would result in more 10-8 rounds. Not sure if/when they went into effect though. I like the new rule changes especially the scoring and now to be "grounded" you have to have both hands down. Here is a link explaining the new rules and scoring New rules don't begin until Jan 1 2017 |
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I think too much chance to wait 18 months. bigger money is ASAP. the longer they wait, the greater the chance of it loosing interest and the cash payout.
Imagine if Conor got hurt or severely beaten within 18 months. or if Diaz fucks up even more, which Im sure he will do eventually. It will be in Diaz best interest to get the fight inked ASAP. |
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They oughta just let him fight Nick a time or two while Nate serves his suspension.
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I think too much chance to wait 18 months. bigger money is ASAP. the longer they wait, the greater the chance of it loosing interest and the cash payout. Imagine if Conor got hurt or severely beaten within 18 months. or if Diaz fucks up even more, which Im sure he will do eventually. It will be in Diaz best interest to get the fight inked ASAP. View Quote Agree that it's in Diazs best interest but Dana is against it. He wants Connor to defend his belt of give it up. If he doesn't want to fight Aldo at 145 he should fight Alvarez at 155 and if he wins they should let Diaz cut to 155 for a title fight. That would be a money maker right there. |
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Agree that it's in Diazs best interest but Dana is against it. He wants Connor to defend his belt of give it up. If he doesn't want to fight Aldo at 145 he should fight Alvarez at 155 and if he wins they should let Diaz cut to 155 for a title fight. That would be a money maker right there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think too much chance to wait 18 months. bigger money is ASAP. the longer they wait, the greater the chance of it loosing interest and the cash payout. Imagine if Conor got hurt or severely beaten within 18 months. or if Diaz fucks up even more, which Im sure he will do eventually. It will be in Diaz best interest to get the fight inked ASAP. Agree that it's in Diazs best interest but Dana is against it. He wants Connor to defend his belt of give it up. If he doesn't want to fight Aldo at 145 he should fight Alvarez at 155 and if he wins they should let Diaz cut to 155 for a title fight. That would be a money maker right there. Bring it! |
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Quoted: Agree that it's in Diazs best interest but Dana is against it. He wants Connor to defend his belt of give it up. If he doesn't want to fight Aldo at 145 he should fight Alvarez at 155 and if he wins they should let Diaz cut to 155 for a title fight. That would be a money maker right there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I think too much chance to wait 18 months. bigger money is ASAP. the longer they wait, the greater the chance of it loosing interest and the cash payout. Imagine if Conor got hurt or severely beaten within 18 months. or if Diaz fucks up even more, which Im sure he will do eventually. It will be in Diaz best interest to get the fight inked ASAP. Agree that it's in Diazs best interest but Dana is against it. He wants Connor to defend his belt of give it up. If he doesn't want to fight Aldo at 145 he should fight Alvarez at 155 and if he wins they should let Diaz cut to 155 for a title fight. That would be a money maker right there. I don't believe he has a choice. Aldo is an interim title holder, if McGregor doesn't fight him next I believe he is required to give up his belt. Aldo McGregor 2 is still a huge, HUGE, money maker for the UFC.
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I don't believe he has a choice. Aldo is an interim title holder, if McGregor doesn't fight him next I believe he is required to give up his belt. Aldo McGregor 2 is still a huge, HUGE, money maker for the UFC. Diaz McGregor 3 can wait until after that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think too much chance to wait 18 months. bigger money is ASAP. the longer they wait, the greater the chance of it loosing interest and the cash payout. Imagine if Conor got hurt or severely beaten within 18 months. or if Diaz fucks up even more, which Im sure he will do eventually. It will be in Diaz best interest to get the fight inked ASAP. Agree that it's in Diazs best interest but Dana is against it. He wants Connor to defend his belt of give it up. If he doesn't want to fight Aldo at 145 he should fight Alvarez at 155 and if he wins they should let Diaz cut to 155 for a title fight. That would be a money maker right there. I don't believe he has a choice. Aldo is an interim title holder, if McGregor doesn't fight him next I believe he is required to give up his belt. Aldo McGregor 2 is still a huge, HUGE, money maker for the UFC. Diaz McGregor 3 can wait until after that. True. I'd love to see him fight Aldo again. He won't knock him out that easy again. Aldo is a bad man in his own right. The outcome of that first fight really surprised me. If he beats him again then let him have an immediate shot at the 155 also if he wants it. Then like I said before, if he wins that 1 too maybe Diaz can put down the bong long enough to drop to 155 for a title fight. |
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Weight divisions exist for a reason. Conor proved a point and probably learned a lot in the process, he also took a lot of damage. Nate is taller/longer than most other 155s, Conor has no business fighting at 170. Conor's advantage of speed/power/movement is perfect for 145 and maybe 155, but it's not going to make him champ at 170. I know you will all give me the for this one, but I have no desire to see Nate and Conor fight again. Get Conor in against people his own size. 145 to 170 is not the same as Cowboy moving to 170 or Rumble fighting at 245. |
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Quoted: Here's my 2 cents that nobody cares about. Weight divisions exist for a reason. Conor proved a point and probably learned a lot in the process, he also took a lot of damage. Nate is taller/longer than most other 155s, Conor has no business fighting at 170. Conor's advantage of speed/power/movement is perfect for 145 and maybe 155, but it's not going to make him champ at 170. I know you will all give me the for this one, but I have no desire to see Nate and Conor fight again. Get Conor in against people his own size. 145 to 170 is not the same as Cowboy moving to 170 or Rumble fighting at 245. View Quote I won't. I didn't think he should have taken the first fight to begin with. I still think he would have been better off not taking it. Although judging by the second fight he seems to have learned something about himself, game planning and his limitations, so in the end it probably made him a better fighter... Which should scare the shit out of the rest of the featherweights. In the end Conor is still led by the money, and he is honest and open about it, which is kind of refreshing. That is why he took the fight the first time, and is probably why there will be a third fight. |
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I won't. I didn't think he should take the first fight to begin with. I still think he would have been better off not taking it. Although judging by the second fight he seems to have learned something about himself, game planning and his limitations, so in the end it probably made him a better fighter... Which should scare the shit out of the rest of the featherweights. In the end Conor is still led by the money, and he is honest and open about it, which is kind of refreshing. That is why he took the fight the first time, and is probably why there will be a third fight. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here's my 2 cents that nobody cares about. Weight divisions exist for a reason. Conor proved a point and probably learned a lot in the process, he also took a lot of damage. Nate is taller/longer than most other 155s, Conor has no business fighting at 170. Conor's advantage of speed/power/movement is perfect for 145 and maybe 155, but it's not going to make him champ at 170. I know you will all give me the for this one, but I have no desire to see Nate and Conor fight again. Get Conor in against people his own size. 145 to 170 is not the same as Cowboy moving to 170 or Rumble fighting at 245. I won't. I didn't think he should take the first fight to begin with. I still think he would have been better off not taking it. Although judging by the second fight he seems to have learned something about himself, game planning and his limitations, so in the end it probably made him a better fighter... Which should scare the shit out of the rest of the featherweights. In the end Conor is still led by the money, and he is honest and open about it, which is kind of refreshing. That is why he took the fight the first time, and is probably why there will be a third fight. Fully agree. Conor is far and away the smartest businessman in the UFC and these other rubes who fight for the UFC still think he's just an annoying trash talker. It's so painfully obvious they just don't get it. Maybe down the line I don't have a problem with the fight, but not for at least a few years. |
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Here's my 2 cents that nobody cares about. Weight divisions exist for a reason. Conor proved a point and probably learned a lot in the process, he also took a lot of damage. Nate is taller/longer than most other 155s, Conor has no business fighting at 170. Conor's advantage of speed/power/movement is perfect for 145 and maybe 155, but it's not going to make him champ at 170. I know you will all give me the for this one, but I have no desire to see Nate and Conor fight again. Get Conor in against people his own size. 145 to 170 is not the same as Cowboy moving to 170 or Rumble fighting at 245. View Quote I agree he doesn't have the size to be champ at 170 but it's still fun to watch. Same as like GSP at 170 when he was champ. If he had wanted to fight a big name light heavy at the time like Rampage it would have been awesome. |
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