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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:22:16 AM EST
[#1]
How many times have you had a serial number checked on a gun? I can think of zero times in my life.
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:24:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No worries since LE will not be enforcing, correct? We’re all in this together, right? Former Nevadan here. About 75% of the state population lives in Clark County, the big urban shit hole of the state. The sheriff is beholden to the casinos and left tard prostiticians who run the county and Las Vegas and is thus not a friend of the 2A. If push comes to shove the Las Vegas Metropolitan PD (combined county sheriff/city police) will enforce this bullshit law. As far as the rural BFE red counties, they have some good pro-2A sheriffs but still have to worry about Nevada Highway Patrol, the state level police. Yet another reason I moved to South Dakota with the money my late mom left me. Nevada's government went all blue in both legislative chambers and all statewide offices except secretary of state, and she is a gutless coward, in 2018. The dems move quick pushing their bullshit through while the state dead elephant party sticks its thumb up its ass. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:26:06 AM EST
[#3]
If passed, this is beyond fucked up.
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:26:47 AM EST
[#4]
Would if a manufacture sells an unfinished receiver with a serial number to you. Since it is not a firearm yet, is a background check even needed?
Many are selling both finished firearms receivers and unfinished receiver parts. Seems to e there may be a loophole to still sell them without a BGC. I did not read the whole law. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:26:48 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No it doesn't seem to be that easy. Section 5.5.2(b) The unfinished frame or receiver is required by federal law to be imprinted with a serial number issued by an importer or manufacturer and the unfinished frame or receiver has been imprinted with the serial number. I see this being challenged under current law but it looks like they are just getting ahead of what the ATF is doing which is going to require this to be done. The ATF does not require a home builder to engrave a serial on a frame because Federal law only mandates licensed manufacturers to do so. For the sake of argument, is Nevada saying you broke Nevada state law by buying a rectangular aluminum billet and finished it into a receiver? What if you engrave a serial number into it? Is Nevada saying everyone everywhere in the entire State has to engrave a serial number into every piece of metal, wood, or plastic that could potentially be finished into a gun frame? |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:27:00 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: California east I have been calling Nevada this ever since the blue wave swamped it in 2018. I pushed my retirement plans up 20 years and moved to SD. The writing was on the wall when that fuckface guvnah King Stupid Shittypants became governor. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:27:40 AM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bans unfinished frames ? What about the ones already finished and in use. Can they be kept ? Sounds unclear. I guess I'll get an engraver to put serial number one through five on the ones I have. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:27:54 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Welp, that just moved my timetable for leaving up. I hear you. The 2018 Nevada elections pushed me out. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:29:56 AM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you guys not reading what has been posted? No you can not put a serial number on it and be ok. No a gunsmith cannot put a serial number on it for you and be ok Any 80% that is out there completed or not, must be turned in to the government or destroyed. Failure to do so will will land your azz in jail. He didn't say anything about 80%s People were making homemade guns long before P80 existed. A "completed 80%" is just another name for a homemade gun. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:31:38 AM EST
[#10]
I think you are missing the gist is no one gives a shit. Fuck em. Fuck overstepping draconian bullshit.
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:32:12 AM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From the amended version. You must be a qualifying importer or manufacturer to assign a serial. The relevant USC section for importers and manufacturers: The NV senate is heavily D. Hope they have some staunch defenders and some smart legislative tricks to head this off- it would be the most draconian bill of the sort nationwide to my knowledge. I'm sure they'll have some cocksucker like their state trooper commander or some similar wonk there to slob sisolak's knob and talk about how all the criminals are using p80s and 3d printed guns. The NV senate is short of 2/3 demtard by only 1 vote. They will pay off, arm twist, or blackmail one of the dead elephants to "cross the aisle in the spirit of bipartisanship" easily. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:32:24 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll get an engraver to put serial number one through five on the ones I have. Get a cri-cut or other cheap hobby lobby or joanns fabrics cnc vinyl plotter. Make vinyl stickers and acid etch whatever you want on them. It'll look factory professional and be deep enough to meet ATF specs on engraving. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:34:29 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What about older firearms from before serial numbers were required? |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:38:03 AM EST
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:38:33 AM EST
[#15]
Quoted: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/81st2021/Bill/7778/Overview Looks like NV decided to make law bidding citizens into criminals today. Nevada Assembly Bill 286, which would ban unfinished receivers, was heard by the Senate Judiciary Committee on May 5th. Today it passed with a 26 to 16 vote Sorry OP, but where is your information coming from? NELIS shows it going before the committee on 5/11, which is the same information one of the senators sent yesterday. WE NEED HELP!!! We need EVERYONE to submit an opinion on the matter. There are minimal exhibits AND the liberal left has been censoring our opinions. None of mine were in the initial bill. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:40:06 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The ATF does not require a home builder to engrave a serial on a frame because Federal law only mandates licensed manufacturers to do so. For the sake of argument, is Nevada saying you broke Nevada state law by buying a rectangular aluminum billet and finished it into a receiver? What if you engrave a serial number into it? Is Nevada saying everyone everywhere in the entire State has to engrave a serial number into every piece of metal, wood, or plastic that could potentially be finished into a gun frame? This is how the bill defines it. 9. “Unfinished frame or receiver” means a blank, a casting or a machined body that is intended to be turned into the frame or lower receiver of a firearm with additional machining and which has been formed or machined to the point at which most of the major machining operations have been completed to turn the blank, casting or machined body into a frame or lower receiver of a firearm even if the fire-control cavity area of the blank, casting or machined body is still completely solid and unmachined. As for the engraving it states that only licensed manufacturers and importers can mark the items and and must be done before sale. They are treating their definition of a "firearm" to be that of the new ATF proposed ruling. Basically all items that meet their definition will that have not been serialized by a federally licensed importer or manufacturer will be illegal to possess and any citizen with one will be subject to arrest. This applies to everyone regardless if you had it before or after the bill. They know who has them as well because the records from p80, stamps.com and other companies have already been seized by the government. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:43:55 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is how the bill defines it. 9. “Unfinished frame or receiver” means a blank, a casting or a machined body that is intended to be turned into the frame or lower receiver of a firearm with additional machining and which has been formed or machined to the point at which most of the major machining operations have been completed to turn the blank, casting or machined body into a frame or lower receiver of a firearm even if the fire-control cavity area of the blank, casting or machined body is still completely solid and unmachined. As for the engraving it states that only licensed manufacturers and importers can mark the items and and must be done before sale. They are treating their definition of a "firearm" to be that of the new ATF proposed ruling. Basically all items that meet their definition will that have not been serialized by a federally licensed importer or manufacturer will be illegal to possess and any citizen with one will be subject to arrest. This applies to everyone regardless if you had it before or after the bill. They know who has them as well because the records from p80, stamps.com and other companies have already been seized by the government. So a scratch built home made gun that hasn't been engraved at all is still good to go according to Nevada law? |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:44:14 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly! I dont think too many people outside the gun community understand that serial numbers are a pretty new requirement and millions of guns dont have them. There is an exemption for C&R guns. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:44:35 AM EST
[#19]
How the fuck do they think this can be enforced? Guns rarely even get run unless there are extenuating circumstances. Even then, as far as most street cops are concerned, a s/n check of a firearm that has not been entered into NCIC (as flagged or stolen, for example) will come up as “no record found”. This means that legal guns don’t exist on current databases. Even an ATF trace yields the most basic of info.
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:47:48 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is how the bill defines it. 9. “Unfinished frame or receiver” means a blank, a casting or a machined body that is intended to be turned into the frame or lower receiver of a firearm with additional machining and which has been formed or machined to the point at which most of the major machining operations have been completed to turn the blank, casting or machined body into a frame or lower receiver of a firearm even if the fire-control cavity area of the blank, casting or machined body is still completely solid and unmachined. As for the engraving it states that only licensed manufacturers and importers can mark the items and and must be done before sale. They are treating their definition of a "firearm" to be that of the new ATF proposed ruling. Basically all items that meet their definition will that have not been serialized by a federally licensed importer or manufacturer will be illegal to possess and any citizen with one will be subject to arrest. This applies to everyone regardless if you had it before or after the bill. They know who has them as well because the records from p80, stamps.com and other companies have already been seized by the government. Glad there are a lot of people that I know that paid cash for them at the gun show so there aren't any records. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:50:27 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So a scratch built home made gun that hasn't been engraved at all is still good to go according to Nevada law? No. Neither is completed 80% firearms. Sec. 4. 1. A person shall not manufacture or cause to be manufactured or assemble or cause to be assembled a firearm that is not imprinted with a serial number issued by a firearms importer or manufacturer in accordance with federal law and any regulations adopted thereunder unless the firearm: (a) Has been rendered permanently inoperable; (b) Is an antique firearm; or (c) Has been determined to be a collector’s item pursuant to 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53 or a curio or relic pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44. 2. A person who violates this section: (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. 3. As used in this section: (a) “Assemble” means to fit together component parts. (b) “Manufacture” means to fabricate, make, form, produce or construct by manual labor or machinery. Sec. 5. 1. A person shall not possess, sell, offer to sell, transfer, purchase, transport or receive a firearm that is not imprinted with a serial number issued by a firearms importer or manufacturer in accordance with federal law and any regulations adopted thereunder unless: (a) The person is: (1) A law enforcement agency; or (2) A firearms importer or manufacturer; or (b) The firearm: (1) Has been rendered permanently inoperable; (2) Is an antique firearm; or (3) Has been determined to be a collector’s item pursuant to 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53 or a curio or relic pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44. 2. A person who violates this section: (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. 3. As used in this section, “law enforcement agency” has the meaning ascribed to it in NRS 239C.065. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:54:18 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Neither is completed 80% firearms. Sec. 4. 1. A person shall not manufacture or cause to be manufactured or assemble or cause to be assembled a firearm that is not imprinted with a serial number issued by a firearms importer or manufacturer in accordance with federal law and any regulations adopted thereunder unless the firearm: (a) Has been rendered permanently inoperable; (b) Is an antique firearm; or (c) Has been determined to be a collector’s item pursuant to 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53 or a curio or relic pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44. 2. A person who violates this section: (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. 3. As used in this section: (a) “Assemble” means to fit together component parts. (b) “Manufacture” means to fabricate, make, form, produce or construct by manual labor or machinery. Sec. 5. 1. A person shall not possess, sell, offer to sell, transfer, purchase, transport or receive a firearm that is not imprinted with a serial number issued by a firearms importer or manufacturer in accordance with federal law and any regulations adopted thereunder unless: (a) The person is: (1) A law enforcement agency; or (2) A firearms importer or manufacturer; or (b) The firearm: (1) Has been rendered permanently inoperable; (2) Is an antique firearm; or (3) Has been determined to be a collector’s item pursuant to 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53 or a curio or relic pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44. 2. A person who violates this section: (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. 3. As used in this section, “law enforcement agency” has the meaning ascribed to it in NRS 239C.065. Not engraving a firearm you built at home IS in accordance with Federal law. Don't tell them that. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:54:50 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, engrave a serial number on it. I think 12345 should do nicely. @Quarterbore  I imagine there will be a lot of "SPACEBALL's - The Home Made Firearms" around this year ...  BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:55:43 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is an exemption for C&R guns. Except that there are THOUSANDS of guns that do not have serial numbers and do not fall in line with being recognized as C&R. This bill will essentially ban them with ZERO recourse. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:55:58 AM EST
[#25]
Honestly, if you're really that worried about it, just fucking counterfeit the shit out of manufacturer's markings.
It's entirely doable these days. Easily so. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:56:49 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not engraving a firearm you built at home IS in accordance with Federal law. Don't tell them that. It won't be allowed, as only a licensed manufacturer can engrave. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:56:50 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Quarterbore https://reinhartmarketing.com/wp-content/uploads/mel-brooks-spaceballs-luggage-combination-600x350x338.jpg I imagine there will be a lot of "SPACEBALL's - The Home Made Firearms" around this year ... https://i.imgur.com/k4H460l.gif BIGGER_HAMMER MERCHANDISING! MERCHANDISING! |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:57:52 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not engraving a firearm you built at home IS in accordance with Federal law. Don't tell them that. Not according to the new ATF rules that have just came out. NV was just ahead of the game. The ATF has been working with NV to get this done since last year. P80 headquarters is in Dayton NV. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:58:09 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It won't be allowed, as only a licensed manufacturer can engrave. Not engraving a firearm won't be allowed since only a licensed manufacturer can engrave? Re-read that sentence. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:58:45 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not according to the new ATF rules that have just came out. NV was just ahead of the game. The ATF has been working with NV to get this done since last year. P80 headquarters is in Dayton NV. ATF just said that all homemade firearms have to be engraved? Really? Link to that? |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 1:12:20 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My serial number is P80. ETA and AR15 on this one. Mine is SAFE |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 1:13:46 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not engraving a firearm won't be allowed since only a licensed manufacturer can engrave? Re-read that sentence. Correct. A serial number is required, so it must be engraved. Not engraving it is not allowed.... that is the illegal part. You can't do it, unless you are a licensed manufacturer or importer.  |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 1:15:30 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ATF just said that all homemade firearms have to be engraved? Really? Link to that? They said that ALL.... "unfinished" firearms have to be engraved as they are to be now considered "firearms" And they took away the 80% distinction meaning now that any blank with just one hole drilled can be constructive intent. Much like other current state laws. California and Connecticut require all firearms to have serial numbers, including 80% receivers before they're cut and drilled, making them a firearm under those states' legal definitions. California Bill A.B. 857 requires that all firearms in the state either have a unique serial number engraved, or that they be destroyed. Connecticut's legislation requires all firearms and firearm blanks, including unfinished 80% lowers, to have unique serial numbers engraved before they're made into a firearm. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 1:15:33 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. A serial number is required, so it must be engraved. Not engraving it is not allowed.... that is the illegal part. You can't do it, unless you are a licensed manufacturer or importer. Except that Federal law doesn't require a serial number. And they wrote the bill predicate on being in accordance with Federal law. Not engraving a serial number on a home built firearm by an unlicensed person is perfectly in accordance with Federal law. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 1:17:28 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They said that ALL.... "unfinished" firearms have to be engraved as they are to be now considered "firearms" And they took away the 80% distinction meaning now that any blank with just one hole drilled can be constructive intent. Much like other current state laws. California and Connecticut require all firearms to have serial numbers, including 80% receivers before they're cut and drilled, making them a firearm under those states' legal definitions. California Bill A.B. 857 requires that all firearms in the state either have a unique serial number engraved, or that they be destroyed. Connecticut's legislation requires all firearms and firearm blanks, including unfinished 80% lowers, to have unique serial numbers engraved before they're made into a firearm. So as I said... a FINISHED homemade firearm still doesn't require a serial number, according to Federal law.... YES? |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 1:18:21 AM EST
[#36]
Wow they beat NY
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Posted: 5/11/2021 1:21:30 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So as I said... a FINISHED homemade firearm still doesn't require a serial number, according to Federal law.... YES? 
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Posted: 5/11/2021 1:26:50 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryI'm telling you to grind any identifying marks that shows it was ever anything but something you made entirely from scrach in your garage jesus fucking christ why do I have to spell everything out. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 1:31:21 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many times have you had a serial number checked on a gun? I can think of zero times in my life. I have had it happen twice.Both times were traffic stops.I informed the police I was concealed carrying and both times it was taken from me,I assume ran to see if it was stolen and then handed back to me disassembled in a ziploc bag with all the rounds removed from the magazine...Both times were complete and total fishing expeditions.One time I was hassled for D.W.B. but I was smart enough to pull into a very busy Hooters parking lot with outdoor seating so there were lots of witnesses.Rookie cop was profiling for sure.He saw me in the wrong neighborhood in a beater car and he for sure thought I’d at least have warrants.He asked to search my car and I refused.Told him to call his superiors.He did,they came in hot expecting a felony arrest.I’m clean as a whistle and the sergeant apologized for the inconvenience and proceeded to give the rookie an earful for hassling me once he seen I had absolutely zero priors and no reason to search my car. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:18:14 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have had it happen twice.Both times were traffic stops.I informed the police I was concealed carrying and both times it was taken from me,I assume ran to see if it was stolen and then handed back to me disassembled in a ziploc bag with all the rounds removed from the magazine...Both times were complete and total fishing expeditions.One time I was hassled for D.W.B. but I was smart enough to pull into a very busy Hooters parking lot with outdoor seating so there were lots of witnesses.Rookie cop was profiling for sure.He saw me in the wrong neighborhood in a beater car and he for sure thought I’d at least have warrants.He asked to search my car and I refused.Told him to call his superiors.He did,they came in hot expecting a felony arrest.I’m clean as a whistle and the sergeant apologized for the inconvenience and proceeded to give the rookie an earful for hassling me once he seen I had absolutely zero priors and no reason to search my car. I wonder what his reaction would have been if when he asked to take your gun.. Office: Do you have any weapons in the vehicle? You: Yes sir I do.. Office: May I have them so that I can be sure that they are not stolen? You: Well how would you do that officer? Office: We can check the serial number in our system.(and also put that gun in the record we keep under your name.. you know the notes that we put into the system about every encounter you have with LE. What for, how you reacted, ect but you dont need to know about that little detail.)  You: Well gee officer my guns don't have serial numbers. Office: officer pulls his gun on you and calls for backup before putting you in handcuffs. Guilty until proven innocent.. In a precrime law enforcement society these rulings and laws only ensure that law abiding citizens are hassled, accused, and put in jail when no crime has been committed. Try to resist and envoke your civil rights, and you will be charged with: Resisting arrest Impeding an investigation Obstruction of justice Disorderly conduct Peace disturbance A little help from the LEO guys here... what else do you guys charge innocent people with? I've noticed that you guys have been awful quite in this thread about whether or not you would enforce laws like this. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:26:47 AM EST
[#41]
Just stamp a number one on it. No big deal.
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:29:42 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not unless you have an FFL. It would still be illegal. Or rather, unless you are a manufacturer or importer, even an ffl doesnt seem to qualify. The person who finishes an 80% is the manufacturer. They are just not a licensed manufacturer. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:30:23 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just stamp a number one on it. No big deal. No. Marking it yourself isn't allowed. Neither is having a gunsmith do it. This has been answered many times in this thread. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:31:02 AM EST
[#44]
 Not just for your state OP but any state including my own. I’m not caring what laws they pass in regards to firearms. They constantly move the goal post and I comply. Well fuck that. I’m done with that. I’m doing what I want. 
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:34:01 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The person who finishes an 80% is the manufacturer. They are just not a licensed manufacturer. Not anymore. You are not allowed to manufacture. Sec. 4. 1. A person shall not manufacture or cause to be manufactured or assemble or cause to be assembled a firearm that is not imprinted with a serial number issued by a firearms importer or manufacturer in accordance with federal law and any regulations adopted thereunder unless the firearm: (a) Has been rendered permanently inoperable; (b) Is an antique firearm; or (c) Has been determined to be a collector’s item pursuant to 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53 or a curio or relic pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44. 2. A person who violates this section: (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. 3. As used in this section: (a) “Assemble” means to fit together component parts. (b) “Manufacture” means to fabricate, make, form, produce or construct by manual labor or machinery ETA: and with this wording it looks like you can't even "assemble" a gun from parts even if the receiver was a factory serialized one. Say goodbye to clone builds or any build for that matter. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:35:47 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This has been answered many times in this thread. I guess I should read the thread then. 
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:37:56 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder what his reaction would have been if when he asked to take your gun.. Office: Do you have any weapons in the vehicle? You: Yes sir I do.. Office: May I have them so that I can be sure that they are not stolen? You: Well how would you do that officer? Office: We can check the serial number in our system.(and also put that gun in the record we keep under your name.. you know the notes that we put into the system about every encounter you have with LE. What for, how you reacted, ect but you dont need to know about that little detail.) You: Well gee officer my guns don't have serial numbers. Office: officer pulls his gun on you and calls for backup before putting you in handcuffs. Guilty until proven innocent.. In a precrime law enforcement society these rulings and laws only ensure that law abiding citizens are hassled, accused, and put in jail when no crime has been committed. Try to resist and envoke your civil rights, and you will be charged with: Resisting arrest Impeding an investigation Obstruction of justice Disorderly conduct Peace disturbance A little help from the LEO guys here... what else do you guys charge innocent people with? I've noticed that you guys have been awful quite in this thread about whether or not you would enforce laws like this. If I’m being completely honest I know that based purely on my appearance alone I get waaaaaaay more attention from police than I’d like.Even though p-80’s and the like are legal here, there is just no way I’d carry one unless it’s a shtf scenario. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:47:06 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m doing what I want. I completely ignored the AWB for ten years. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:48:22 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I’m being completely honest I know that based purely on my appearance alone I get waaaaaaay more attention from police than I’d like.Even though p-80’s and the like are legal here, there is just no way I’d carry one unless it’s a shtf scenario. I get what you are saying. But I have 3 custom 1911s built from 80% One is a 416 SS frame and the other 2 are 4140. These are hand fit to the slide and the barrels were hand fit as well. I trust them more than any Kimber or Springfield. I consider them all to be on par with ed brown, Wilson, or Nighthawk And my AR that goes wherever I go was machined from a cerro keyhole forging on my 3 axis mill to within +/-.003" and adheres to the COLT blueprints. So I would not consider 80% built firearms to be all backyard bubba junk. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 2:54:05 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I completely ignored the AWB for ten years. Yep.. And I remember that the used gi magazine prices at the gun shows back then being $100 too. |
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