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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:19:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By design. By whose design? |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:20:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dispute that there will always be world police. A scenario where no entity is strong enough to do more than patrol their borders is imaginable. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Like it or not, we are. And frankly, thank God for it. We've got the immense peace and prosperity of the post WW2 years to show for it. Nature abhors a vacuum and someone will be the "world police". So, your choice: us or the Russia/China Axis. I dispute that there will always be world police. A scenario where no entity is strong enough to do more than patrol their borders is imaginable. Who/how would you resolve international trade disputes, piracy and other transnational issues? |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:22:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dispute that there will always be world police. A scenario where no entity is strong enough to do more than patrol their borders is imaginable. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Like it or not, we are. And frankly, thank God for it. We've got the immense peace and prosperity of the post WW2 years to show for it. Nature abhors a vacuum and someone will be the "world police". So, your choice: us or the Russia/China Axis. I dispute that there will always be world police. A scenario where no entity is strong enough to do more than patrol their borders is imaginable. While that is a fun thing to dream about and imagine, When in even semi modern history has that ever been the case or possible? |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:23:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dispute that there will always be world police. A scenario where no entity is strong enough to do more than patrol their borders is imaginable. The only imaginable scenario I see "no entity is strong enough to do more than patrol their borders" is a one world gov, but then they are the defacto world police. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:40:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would never be sustainable, because expansionist dictators have always existed, do exist today, and will in the future. The only imaginable scenario I see "no entity is strong enough to do more than patrol their borders" is a one world gov, but then they are the defacto world police. Tyranny is a more stable and more common outcome than democracy or republicanism historically. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:49:29 AM EDT
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Purse swinging aside, do we have an accurate AAR yet?
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:55:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Purse swinging aside, do we have an accurate AAR yet? No. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 12:11:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Purse swinging aside, do we have an accurate AAR yet? Who is this person who asked a relevant question on page 6? Behead him immediately! |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 12:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Purse swinging aside, do we have an accurate AAR yet? No. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 3:06:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's probably a communication discrepancy. You're accustomed to an environment where calling someone an asshole is a big deal. I'm accustomed to an environment where I probably dialed down my first three responses because I've learned through experience that "cousin-fucking moron" doesn't carry over well on text absent the contextual clues that indicate when it's meant lovingly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just not clear on how I was being an asshole for having a reasoned discourse with someone I thought I largely agreed with. People are way too emotional about this stuff across the board. Like the clay holster dude who was the first to publicly "click" me for disagreeing on this topic (only). That, for not being conservative enough, when now his take on it is perfectly inline with the lib squad. "The risk of nuclear weapons being used has been estimated to be higher now than at any timesince the height of the Cold War. Given the catastrophic possibilities of nuclear escalation and miscalculation, which only increase the longer this war continues, we agree with your goal of avoiding direct military conflict as an overriding national-security priority. Given the destruction created by this war for Ukraine and the world, as well as the risk of catastrophic escalation, we also believe it is in the interests of Ukraine, the United States, and the world to avoid a prolonged conflict. For this reason, we urge you to pair the military and economic support the United States has provided to Ukraine with a proactive diplomatic push, redoubling efforts to seek a realistic framework for a ceasefire. This is consistent with your recognition that "there's going to have to be a negotiated settlement here," and your concern that Vladimir Putin "doesn't have a way out right now, and I'm trying to figure out what we do about that."" ... "Sincerely, Pramila Jayapal Chair Earl Blumenauer Member of Congress Cori Bush Member of Congress .... It's probably a communication discrepancy. You're accustomed to an environment where calling someone an asshole is a big deal. I'm accustomed to an environment where I probably dialed down my first three responses because I've learned through experience that "cousin-fucking moron" doesn't carry over well on text absent the contextual clues that indicate when it's meant lovingly. 
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Posted: 10/31/2022 3:07:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think that's wrong. There may not be a negotiated settlement in this, and the time to negotiate a settlement probably isn't when Ukraine is pushing in russia's shit. russia shouldn't be allowed to keep property they're stolen. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just not clear on how I was being an asshole for having a reasoned discourse with someone I thought I largely agreed with. People are way too emotional about this stuff across the board. Like the clay holster dude who was the first to publicly "click" me for disagreeing on this topic (only). That, for not being conservative enough, when now his take on it is perfectly inline with the lib squad. "The risk of nuclear weapons being used has been estimated to be higher now than at any timesince the height of the Cold War. Given the catastrophic possibilities of nuclear escalation and miscalculation, which only increase the longer this war continues, we agree with your goal of avoiding direct military conflict as an overriding national-security priority. Given the destruction created by this war for Ukraine and the world, as well as the risk of catastrophic escalation, we also believe it is in the interests of Ukraine, the United States, and the world to avoid a prolonged conflict. For this reason, we urge you to pair the military and economic support the United States has provided to Ukraine with a proactive diplomatic push, redoubling efforts to seek a realistic framework for a ceasefire. This is consistent with your recognition that "there's going to have to be a negotiated settlement here," and your concern that Vladimir Putin "doesn't have a way out right now, and I'm trying to figure out what we do about that."" ... "Sincerely, Pramila Jayapal Chair Earl Blumenauer Member of Congress Cori Bush Member of Congress .... I think that's wrong. There may not be a negotiated settlement in this, and the time to negotiate a settlement probably isn't when Ukraine is pushing in russia's shit. russia shouldn't be allowed to keep property they're stolen. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 3:35:40 PM EDT
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We can read lic plates from outer space but no one can say if a ship was hit or not.
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Posted: 10/31/2022 3:37:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can read lic plates from outer space but no one can say if a ship was hit or not. But in our defense, the standard Russian license plate is required to be eight feet tall. Cite: I made it up. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 4:22:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tyranny is a more stable and more common outcome than democracy or republicanism historically. The animated contest of freedom. FWIW, an oligarchy of any kind will have a better looking government than we ever have. That's because the government controls everything. In a free country, the government doesn't control anything except maybe international trade and national defense. The balkanization of the several states shall see to it presently. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 4:27:38 PM EDT
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Excellent.
Every piece of hardware the Russians lose reduces their threat and allows the U.S. to reallocate more of its conventional forces to the Pacific to counter China. We still need to be pushing the Germans to live up to their commitment to expand their military. If the Germans could increase/modernizer their military that combined with Finland, Poland, and the UK I think we could finally at least for a time leave European security up to the damn Europeans. Asia needs to be westernized and under U.S. influence more heavily. The bulk of our military and foreign policy focus needs to be on China. We allow traitors to feed our enemy the CCP until now they are a big beast that has to be addressed. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 6:31:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who/how would you resolve international trade disputes, piracy and other transnational issues? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Like it or not, we are. And frankly, thank God for it. We've got the immense peace and prosperity of the post WW2 years to show for it. Nature abhors a vacuum and someone will be the "world police". So, your choice: us or the Russia/China Axis. I dispute that there will always be world police. A scenario where no entity is strong enough to do more than patrol their borders is imaginable. Who/how would you resolve international trade disputes, piracy and other transnational issues? There won't be such things in this scenario, so no resolution needed. We're talking carrington event, nuclear war, a real pandemic, an asteroid, etc. But at least america won't be the world police and there won't be any cops and everyone (who survived) will be free. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 6:33:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While that is a fun thing to dream about and imagine, When in even semi modern history has that ever been the case or possible? It's not only possible, it's inevitable. Because sooner or later something will break and this insane population bubble will return to agrarian. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 7:18:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically a "suicide drone" is a radio guided gravity bomb. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The germans sunk the Roma with a Fritz X, which was a radio guided gravity bomb, not a powered drone. Basically a "suicide drone" is a radio guided gravity bomb. No - it is a very different thing. Clue is in the word "gravity". |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 7:45:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No - it is a very different thing. Clue is in the word "gravity". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The germans sunk the Roma with a Fritz X, which was a radio guided gravity bomb, not a powered drone. Basically a "suicide drone" is a radio guided gravity bomb. No - it is a very different thing. Clue is in the word "gravity". Gravity affects them both equally. Maybe “gravity bombs” should be “non lift-producing bombs”. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:00:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:14:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d tell you a joke about Kharkiv and Kyiv, but you’d never get it. Bakhmut |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:19:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:48:29 PM EDT
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If the Russians are no longer a counterbalance to the godless commie Chinese, what good are they?
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:09:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the Russians are no longer a counterbalance to the godless commie Chinese, what good are they? Theyre allied with them 
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:14:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “Dibs on all the seamen”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/479088/92E92F8A-592B-40F6-B4B5-69E72FC5CA71_jpe-2583434.JPG He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:21:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: “Dibs on all the seamen”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/479088/92E92F8A-592B-40F6-B4B5-69E72FC5CA71_jpe-2583434.JPG He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Putin getting whooped by a faggot would be funny. Hopefully Zelensky’s POS liberal ass is ousted somehow before that though. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:24:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: “Dibs on all the seamen”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/479088/92E92F8A-592B-40F6-B4B5-69E72FC5CA71_jpe-2583434.JPG He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Better yet, Z-man should force Putin to wear that outfit to the Surrender Ceremony. Bigger_Hammer 
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Posted: 11/1/2022 2:36:36 AM EDT
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REALWAR posted this Video in another thread that is some pretty damn good action footage!
Thanks REALWAR!!  @RealWar Footage appears to show drone boat attack on Russian ships in Crimea Bigger_Hammer
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Posted: 11/1/2022 2:51:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By whose design? Use your detective skills and think about it for a minute. There are folks that intentionally derail threads that don’t fit into their social engineering efforts. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 3:16:51 PM EDT
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Any real confirmation the Admiral Makarov damaged and sunk?
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Posted: 11/1/2022 4:03:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any real confirmation the Admiral Makarov damaged and sunk? Didn’t sink. Damaged |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 8:57:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t sink. Damaged Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any real confirmation the Admiral Makarov damaged and sunk? Didn’t sink. Damaged reading comprehension is not a strong suit in GD. "real confirmation" implies verifiable. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 9:42:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gravity affects them both equally. Maybe “gravity bombs” should be “non lift-producing bombs”. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The germans sunk the Roma with a Fritz X, which was a radio guided gravity bomb, not a powered drone. Basically a "suicide drone" is a radio guided gravity bomb. No - it is a very different thing. Clue is in the word "gravity". Gravity affects them both equally. Maybe “gravity bombs” should be “non lift-producing bombs”. Not just lift. Better terms woudl be "unguided ballistic" verses "guided ballistic" verses "automotive". |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 9:49:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not just lift. Better terms woudl be "unguided ballistic" verses "guided ballistic" verses "automotive". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The germans sunk the Roma with a Fritz X, which was a radio guided gravity bomb, not a powered drone. Basically a "suicide drone" is a radio guided gravity bomb. No - it is a very different thing. Clue is in the word "gravity". Gravity affects them both equally. Maybe “gravity bombs” should be “non lift-producing bombs”. Not just lift. Better terms woudl be "unguided ballistic" verses "guided ballistic" verses "automotive". Ballistic weapons are solely influenced by gravity, physics and the atmosphere after being fired/launched/released, while guided weapons have post launching/firing/releasing input to their course. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 9:56:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Putin getting whooped by a faggot would be funny. Hopefully Zelensky’s POS liberal ass is ousted somehow before that though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: “Dibs on all the seamen”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/479088/92E92F8A-592B-40F6-B4B5-69E72FC5CA71_jpe-2583434.JPG He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Putin getting whooped by a faggot would be funny. Hopefully Zelensky’s POS liberal ass is ousted somehow before that though. I certainly hope that the war is over long before his current term ends in 2024. How do you want him to be ousted before that? |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 9:58:44 AM EDT
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APC pulled from storage now used by Russian forces in Ukraine ...
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Posted: 11/3/2022 10:19:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not just lift. Better terms woudl be "unguided ballistic" verses "guided ballistic" verses "automotive". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The germans sunk the Roma with a Fritz X, which was a radio guided gravity bomb, not a powered drone. Basically a "suicide drone" is a radio guided gravity bomb. No - it is a very different thing. Clue is in the word "gravity". Gravity affects them both equally. Maybe “gravity bombs” should be “non lift-producing bombs”. Not just lift. Better terms woudl be "unguided ballistic" verses "guided ballistic" verses "automotive". I was just being snarky and pedantic. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 10:20:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just being snarky and pedantic. 
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Posted: 11/3/2022 10:24:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent. Every piece of hardware the Russians lose reduces their threat and allows the U.S. to reallocate more of its conventional forces to the Pacific to counter China. We still need to be pushing the Germans to live up to their commitment to expand their military. If the Germans could increase/modernizer their military that combined with Finland, Poland, and the UK I think we could finally at least for a time leave European security up to the damn Europeans. Asia needs to be westernized and under U.S. influence more heavily. The bulk of our military and foreign policy focus needs to be on China. We allow traitors to feed our enemy the CCP until now they are a big beast that has to be addressed. And South America will rise and conquer. ?? |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 10:46:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh good. I wonder how much of my tax money was used to buy the worthless Urks their fun little drone boats.  I hope Russia nukes the whole slaggin worthless country, and then gets globally rejected and starves. Fuck Ukraine and Russia… This is a great example of people I though were among “the good guys” who turned out to not to be good at all. It’s been a real wakeup call. So many here are just as narcissistic and hateful as Pelosi, Biden or any of the worst democrats. Two sides of the same coin. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 10:49:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a great example of people I though were among “the good guys” who turned out to not to be good at all. This topic has been a real wakeup call. There are so many here just as narcissistic and hateful as Pelosi, Biden or any of the worst democrats. Two sides of the same coin. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh good. I wonder how much of my tax money was used to buy the worthless Urks their fun little drone boats. I hope Russia nukes the whole slaggin worthless country, and then gets globally rejected and starves. Fuck Ukraine and Russia… This is a great example of people I though were among “the good guys” who turned out to not to be good at all. This topic has been a real wakeup call. There are so many here just as narcissistic and hateful as Pelosi, Biden or any of the worst democrats. Two sides of the same coin. It's been insanely eye opening. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 11:06:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I certainly hope that the war is over long before his current term ends in 2024. How do you want him to be ousted before that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: “Dibs on all the seamen”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/479088/92E92F8A-592B-40F6-B4B5-69E72FC5CA71_jpe-2583434.JPG He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Putin getting whooped by a faggot would be funny. Hopefully Zelensky’s POS liberal ass is ousted somehow before that though. I certainly hope that the war is over long before his current term ends in 2024. How do you want him to be ousted before that? Use your imagination. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 11:10:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Use your imagination. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: “Dibs on all the seamen”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/479088/92E92F8A-592B-40F6-B4B5-69E72FC5CA71_jpe-2583434.JPG He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Putin getting whooped by a faggot would be funny. Hopefully Zelensky’s POS liberal ass is ousted somehow before that though. I certainly hope that the war is over long before his current term ends in 2024. How do you want him to be ousted before that? Use your imagination. Use your words if you feel so strongly. I for one don't wish a democratically elected president to be removed by unlawful means because you have an emotional response to him. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 11:22:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Use your words if you feel so strongly. I for one don't wish a democratically elected president to be removed by unlawful means because you have an emotional response to him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: “Dibs on all the seamen”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/479088/92E92F8A-592B-40F6-B4B5-69E72FC5CA71_jpe-2583434.JPG He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Putin getting whooped by a faggot would be funny. Hopefully Zelensky’s POS liberal ass is ousted somehow before that though. I certainly hope that the war is over long before his current term ends in 2024. How do you want him to be ousted before that? Use your imagination. Use your words if you feel so strongly. I for one don't wish a democratically elected president to be removed by unlawful means because you have an emotional response to him. Putin was elected also.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 11:28:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's been insanely eye opening. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Oh good. I wonder how much of my tax money was used to buy the worthless Urks their fun little drone boats. I hope Russia nukes the whole slaggin worthless country, and then gets globally rejected and starves. Fuck Ukraine and Russia… This is a great example of people I though were among “the good guys” who turned out to not to be good at all. This topic has been a real wakeup call. There are so many here just as narcissistic and hateful as Pelosi, Biden or any of the worst democrats. Two sides of the same coin. It's been insanely eye opening. They are victims of Ideological Subversion, but that doesn’t excuse them, any more than the victims of Nazi propaganda can be excused for their respective crimes. Each person is responsible for maintaining a value system. A clear understanding of Right and Wrong. Based on Reason, Critical Thinking and Morality. It’s independent of culture and religion. It’s something we all have to hold sacred. And it’s Entirely Independent of the actions of your enemies.  KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov's warning to America |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 11:33:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a great example of people I though were among “the good guys” who turned out to not to be good at all. It’s been a real wakeup call. So many here are just as narcissistic and hateful as Pelosi, Biden or any of the worst democrats. Two sides of the same coin.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 11:47:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is a great example of people I though were among “the good guys” who turned out to not to be good at all. It’s been a real wakeup call. So many here are just as narcissistic and hateful as Pelosi, Biden or any of the worst democrats. Two sides of the same coin. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg In many more ways than many people know. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 12:20:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: “Dibs on all the seamen”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/479088/92E92F8A-592B-40F6-B4B5-69E72FC5CA71_jpe-2583434.JPG He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Putin getting whooped by a faggot would be funny. Hopefully Zelensky’s POS liberal ass is ousted somehow before that though. I certainly hope that the war is over long before his current term ends in 2024. How do you want him to be ousted before that? Use your imagination. Use your words if you feel so strongly. I for one don't wish a democratically elected president to be removed by unlawful means because you have an emotional response to him. Putin was elected also. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/laugh-29.gif I can't say that Putin being removed through a coup or other extralegal means would be good either. That said, comparing Russian elections to Ukraine's where election observers had mostly positive things to say (questionable use of office by Poroshenko being noteworthy exceptions) is more than a little disingenuous. |
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Posted: 11/3/2022 1:54:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't say that Putin being removed through a coup or other extralegal means would be good either. That said, comparing Russian elections to Ukraine's where election observers had mostly positive things to say (questionable use of office by Poroshenko being noteworthy exceptions) is more than a little disingenuous. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: “Dibs on all the seamen”. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/479088/92E92F8A-592B-40F6-B4B5-69E72FC5CA71_jpe-2583434.JPG He should dress like that when they force Putin to sign the peace treaty Putin getting whooped by a faggot would be funny. Hopefully Zelensky’s POS liberal ass is ousted somehow before that though. I certainly hope that the war is over long before his current term ends in 2024. How do you want him to be ousted before that? Use your imagination. Use your words if you feel so strongly. I for one don't wish a democratically elected president to be removed by unlawful means because you have an emotional response to him. Putin was elected also. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/laugh-29.gif I can't say that Putin being removed through a coup or other extralegal means would be good either. That said, comparing Russian elections to Ukraine's where election observers had mostly positive things to say (questionable use of office by Poroshenko being noteworthy exceptions) is more than a little disingenuous. Who should we compare them to then, our elections? |
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