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I never would have recognized that design
Is it worse, same-same, or no worse than the other side rocking the hammer & sickle |
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some guy, somewhere, slaps some patch on and no idea who this guy is, or where.
Critical thinking people? what a stupid thread. Strangely, some of the de-nazification workers have nazi tatoos, the ultimate paradox. |
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I don’t think the UKR or Orcs care what we think, so long as the money flows.
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What does it mean to them and what's their reasoning? They is plenty of things used today and words that groups say that have terrible meanings in history but its widely accepted as normal and okay.
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Always amazes me that people throw stuff out like this, and have never researched into our own revolutionary war.
Murders, rapes, tortures, anything and everything you can imagine was committed by US troops against loyalists during our own revolutionary war. Did that make the right not honorable? Absolutely not. Did it take away from our efforts? I'm sure a bit, but then if you went around talking about it, you might be charged for treason. But then again, this is what happens when people on social media LOVE to spout off about stuff they can't critically think about. |
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Nazis and commies killing each other, I thought GD would be okay with letting them fight (minus the part where our government wastes money).
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I don't follow the Ukraine shit much as I really don't give two shits about either of their governments. Feel bad for the folks dying for it and , but just like a number of wars across our globe and history , this one doesn't matter much to me.
Anyway , the optics are not so hot , but I can understand using the symbols to a degree. What's weird though is the Germans never treated the Ukrainians all that hot either. |
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I wonder if there are Ukrainian units sporting Makhnov's "Black Flag".
Or, aren't they so proud of this Ukrainian "hero"? |
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I don't care at all. good for them.
I'm not a lefty. I'm not going to get outraged every time a journalist tells me to. |
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Wonder how many people in the US mil have patches that they don't understand the history behind, but think they look cool. Or how many know the history and keep it anyway.
Guess we're next, didn't the marine scout snipers use some SS flair in their logos? |
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Quoted: This. Not the same unit, not even the same f---ing country or army. Probably adopted to intimidate the Russians. If that works then it's good. View Quote I don't care either. Polish people might. The unit is famous for raping and slaughtering Warsaw civilians. If anyone supports either side of this war; they're wrong. |
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Quoted: Hmmmmm Wonder when the Ukraine Bros will figure out they are backing A holed as bad as the Russians themselves.... View Quote I just realized that Ukraine is also invading a neighbor, bombing civilian infrastructure, kidnapping children and distributing them via filtration camps to Russia, torturing and raping civillians. Yup. Ukraine is just bad as Russia |
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Quoted: No, numerous photos of them using it. https://i.imgur.com/suR5VvV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8hQsAoI.jpg View Quote Fucking Nazi scum. IVe said it before, the Ukes had many many volunteers during the holocaust and helped murder millions. The whole nation is vile shithole. Nothing like wearing an insignia from a convicted child rapist, sadist, murderer and alcoholic asshole... the only good thing that happened is that the Czechs got their hands on that vile scumbag and treated him proper like. |
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Quoted: I don't care either. Polish people might. The unit is famous for raping and slaughtering Warsaw civilians. If anyone supports either side of this war; they're wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This. Not the same unit, not even the same f---ing country or army. Probably adopted to intimidate the Russians. If that works then it's good. I don't care either. Polish people might. The unit is famous for raping and slaughtering Warsaw civilians. If anyone supports either side of this war; they're wrong. Considering the Poles have sent a monumental amount of their own equipment to Ukraine and have logistically aided in tons of Western equipment getting there, I doubt they're as easily influenced as GD in terms of thinking that one guy is representative of the Ukranian military as a whole. |
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Quoted: They can't be that stupid. That unit was the worst of the worst, absolute animals. I don't believe it. Lots of propaganda on both sides here. View Quote Its real Ive seen it dozens of times on all sorts of things from uniforms, to vehicles to flags.. hey its what they like it seems. Disgusting people... |
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Quoted: They can't be that stupid. That unit was the worst of the worst, absolute animals. I don't believe it. Lots of propaganda on both sides here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: They can't be that stupid. That unit was the worst of the worst, absolute animals. I don't believe it. Lots of propaganda on both sides here. Yep... even the Nazis were disgusted by them. |
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Quoted: They can't be that stupid. That unit was the worst of the worst, absolute animals. I don't believe it. Lots of propaganda on both sides here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: They can't be that stupid. That unit was the worst of the worst, absolute animals. I don't believe it. Lots of propaganda on both sides here. lol |
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Quoted: Our platoon sigil was a totemkopf. Many units did similar things. Some of our guys got that tattooed on them. And no one in SoCal ever said a word about them, then. I've never seen the crossed Stielhandgranate before though. View Quote Ironically the death heads insignia isnt a nazi emblem and originated with the Prussians and saw use during WW1 on many uniforms in some units. Nothing associated with ideology, racism or anything else as it was used later by the SS. |
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Quoted: Lets see how many people know what SS units were Ukrainian in WW2. View Quote What's your point? That some Ukranians were on the wrong side in WW2? That's not hard to prove. Poland is still pissed about this, but Poland still stepping up and helping their neighbor because Russia is 100% wrong. War is not an internet argument you can just grab a random point and feel like that counterbalances the entire opposing side. A little more nuanced than that, sorry it's hard for some of the geniuses here to grasp. |
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Quoted: Fucking Nazi scum. IVe said it before, the Ukes had many many volunteers during the holocaust and helped murder millions. The whole nation is vile shithole. Nothing like wearing an insignia from a convicted child rapist, sadist, murderer and alcoholic asshole... the only good thing that happened is that the Czechs got their hands on that vile scumbag and treated him proper like. View Quote You're totally not siding with Russia, though. |
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Quoted: Considering the Poles have sent a monumental amount of their own equipment to Ukraine and have logistically aided in tons of Western equipment getting there, I doubt they're as easily influenced as GD in terms of thinking that one guy is representative of the Ukranian military as a whole. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This. Not the same unit, not even the same f---ing country or army. Probably adopted to intimidate the Russians. If that works then it's good. I don't care either. Polish people might. The unit is famous for raping and slaughtering Warsaw civilians. If anyone supports either side of this war; they're wrong. Considering the Poles have sent a monumental amount of their own equipment to Ukraine and have logistically aided in tons of Western equipment getting there, I doubt they're as easily influenced as GD in terms of thinking that one guy is representative of the Ukranian military as a whole. THANK YOU |
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Quoted: Remember when USMC Scout Snipers were all about sporting SS runes on tattoos, patches, flags, challenge coins, etc etc? Pepper Ridge Farms remembers. View Quote My USMC unit during Desert Storm adopted a modified Afrika Corps design. Instead of a swastika and a palm tree, it was an EGA and a palm tree. Someone made stencils and we marked tanks and humvees with it. I never heard any beef about it until after I got out. Apparently the USMC got it's panties in a wad over it. So in true E-4 mafia form, I got a tattoo of it as a final fuck you to the Suck. |
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Quoted: They can't be that stupid. That unit was the worst of the worst, absolute animals. I don't believe it. Lots of propaganda on both sides here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: They can't be that stupid. That unit was the worst of the worst, absolute animals. I don't believe it. Lots of propaganda on both sides here. I would not have known that symbol. I would have worn it becuase wel 2 grenades are better than 1 I suppose Never the less it does not change Russia unilaterally invading a country they agreed under international law not to invade. I hope Ukriane kicks facsist Russia in the wanger..... |
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What how much cross pollination there is between pro SS/nazi ideology and pro russia sentiment in the USA. I'm going to guess... lots.
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Quoted: Russians killed millions of them and got away with it internationally because of fellow travelers in the US. It's like the Slavic equivalent of wearing a Crusader patch while killing Muslims. View Quote So does the American left now hate the Russkies because they got rid of communism? |
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Quoted: Yep... even the Nazis were disgusted by them. View Quote Yeah says alot when the other SS units wanted this child rapers units moved out of their area. Similar to their thoughts on Kaminski brigade. Perhaps the Russians should wear Kaminski insignias to fight against the Dirlewanger units... odd times. |
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Will you guys just quit with the whole nazi thing! You can find nazi dickheads in the russian army too! At this point your just regurgitating russian propaganda. For you putin puffers just take a look at who he has aligned himself with(Iran,Nor Korea,) Think for yourself's for fucks sake.
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WWII you have Stalin on one side of you, who starved about 6 million of you to death, and Hitler on the other side. Hitler wants to kill Stalin.
Do the math. funny thing happened: one group fought along side the Russians, another along side the Germans, and a third group fought against both. Ukraine is complicated because of this. IDGAF what patches anybody wears. I just want Russia to get its ass kicked. |
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Not my circus not my monkeys I don't care what kind of Insignia they're wearing
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Quoted: What's your point? That some Ukranians were on the wrong side in WW2? That's not hard to prove. Poland is still pissed about this, but Poland still stepping up and helping their neighbor because Russia is 100% wrong. War is not an internet argument you can just grab a random point and feel like that counterbalances the entire opposing side. A little more nuanced than that, sorry it's hard for some of the geniuses here to grasp. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Lets see how many people know what SS units were Ukrainian in WW2. What's your point? That some Ukranians were on the wrong side in WW2? That's not hard to prove. Poland is still pissed about this, but Poland still stepping up and helping their neighbor because Russia is 100% wrong. War is not an internet argument you can just grab a random point and feel like that counterbalances the entire opposing side. A little more nuanced than that, sorry it's hard for some of the geniuses here to grasp. Stalin just starved 6 million of your people to death. why would fighting with the Germans against Stalin be the wrong side? why would fighting for Stalin be the right side? Evil vs Evil. you're in the middle. |
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