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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:49:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: d Ironically the death heads insignia isnt a nazi emblem and originated with the Prussians and saw use during WW1 on many uniforms in some units. Nothing associated with ideology, racism or anything else as it was used later by the SS. Quote HistoryQuoted: d Quoted: Our platoon sigil was a totemkopf. Many units did similar things. Some of our guys got that tattooed on them. And no one in SoCal ever said a word about them, then. I've never seen the crossed Stielhandgranate before though. Ironically the death heads insignia isnt a nazi emblem and originated with the Prussians and saw use during WW1 on many uniforms in some units. Nothing associated with ideology, racism or anything else as it was used later by the SS. The death's head was used by many armies. The UK 17th / 21st Lancers, etc. It predates the SS and the Panzertruppen use by at least a century. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:49:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Democrats started seeing Nazis everywhere in 2016 Mostly in the mirror. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:50:25 AM EDT
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COC ~ Thread Ban ~ Bollocks44
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:51:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were crusaders the baddies though  ?Also, a 800 year past s not the same as a 80 years past The Crusaders have a somewhat checkered history of killing Jew and Muslim civilian populations because they wanted the real estate. One of their first acts after taking Jerusalem was to burn down the synagogue. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:51:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All Canadians must be communist because Trudeau is right? I should fucking hate Canada and all Canadians, even if they move here, because of Trudeau and the Marxists in the Canadian government right? The USA should NEVER help out that weak ass Canadian military if ithat country ever gets invaded because Canada is full of gun banning communists, right? Well at least you got some stuff right with what you said above. Yes your likely right, most Canadians are in fact communists.. Canada doesnt need US help, apparently we are now aligned with China. 
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:51:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it isn't well known. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Of course, as you mentioned, US military members have SS tattoos and patches, and it's been known for decades that the US military has a massive white supremacist gang problem. No, it isn't well known. That post was satirical, if you couldn't tell. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:53:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The death's head was used by many armies. The UK 17th / 21st Lancers, etc. It predates the SS and the Panzertruppen use by at least a century. Likely youve seen the old variant. Its quite large in comparison to what was used later. Barely fit on a hat the death head was so big. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:55:03 AM EDT
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So while Russia is emptying its prisons of actual murderers and rapists to use in this war our usual suspects are worried about a morale patch.
Whatever. Comrades. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:57:32 AM EDT
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Based.
 
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:58:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: why should we care, it's not our war It sure is. We are paying for it |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:58:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Photoshop? I don’t care if they are actual nazis, or being framed, still not our problem, or our fight. It’s europes. I’ll support actual nazis if the fight is in our interests, and Ukraine is not. Fighting the fight , the REAL THREAT that’s already on us soil , the one that’s more dangerous to ME, than Russia ever was, is, or ever was is my priority. If I’m fighting in another war, it’s this one, right here, not in fucking Ukraine, over protecting politician money laundering operations. . Take your massive pile of cash and weapons and solve your own problems already, or get your actual neighbors to help. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:59:11 AM EDT
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I’m outraged…..not
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Posted: 11/18/2022 11:59:27 AM EDT
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Isn't a war the right place for war crimes?
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:01:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russians killed millions of them and got away with it internationally because of fellow travelers in the US. It's like the Slavic equivalent of wearing a Crusader patch while killing Muslims. While lacking taste, it's fucking war. It's about killing as many people as possible. If you get outraged because of a unit symbol, you should probably recheck your priorities. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:01:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm referring to the masscres of Polish civillians in the area encompassing southeast Poland / southwest Belarus / western Ukraine. Poland still wants Ukraine to apologize for this, and there is debate about what happened how much responsibility Ukraine has. With that said, once Russia invaded, Poland put this aside and stepped up to help their neighbor by accepting over 1M refugees and providing weapons. If Poland was an ARFCOM GD'er, they probably would have said "fuck them." Just proving that the people of Poland are better people than the "Fuck Ukraine" conspiracy theory weirdos that troll this site at times. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lets see how many people know what SS units were Ukrainian in WW2. What's your point? That some Ukranians were on the wrong side in WW2? That's not hard to prove. Poland is still pissed about this, but Poland still stepping up and helping their neighbor because Russia is 100% wrong. War is not an internet argument you can just grab a random point and feel like that counterbalances the entire opposing side. A little more nuanced than that, sorry it's hard for some of the geniuses here to grasp. Stalin just starved 6 million of your people to death. why would fighting with the Germans against Stalin be the wrong side? why would fighting for Stalin be the right side? Evil vs Evil. you're in the middle. I'm referring to the masscres of Polish civillians in the area encompassing southeast Poland / southwest Belarus / western Ukraine. Poland still wants Ukraine to apologize for this, and there is debate about what happened how much responsibility Ukraine has. With that said, once Russia invaded, Poland put this aside and stepped up to help their neighbor by accepting over 1M refugees and providing weapons. If Poland was an ARFCOM GD'er, they probably would have said "fuck them." Just proving that the people of Poland are better people than the "Fuck Ukraine" conspiracy theory weirdos that troll this site at times. Poland occupied western Ukraine for HUNDREDS of years. Poland: - 1) banned Ukrainian Cyrillic from being used - punishment was imprisonment and sometimes torture. - 2) banned the Ukrainian Orthodox church and burned many down. The Byzantine Catholic church was also persecuted even though they recognized Rome/Latin Rite. - 3) Poland confiscated Ukrainian farms -4) Poland took over whole villages, confiscated homes and moved Poles in. 5) Poland routinely persecuted and executed Ukrainians for opposing them. You know how I know? My grandparents told me about it in the 1970s and my mother is still alive and remembers when she was a little girl. A Polish official shoved a stick in my grandmother's ear to the point where it ruptured an eardrum because she didnt take his fucking orders. She always had to turn her head when she talked to me. So, I wonder what all the brave 2A-supporting ARFCOMMERS, who condemn Ukrainians for fighting Poles around WW2, would do if Mexico, Russia, China, or whomever did the above to them, their property, or their family? And before anyone says that I don't like Polish people, my wife is part Polish. I am very happy that Poland and Ukraine have been standing together for decades. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:02:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They can't be that stupid. That unit was the worst of the worst, absolute animals. I don't believe it. Lots of propaganda on both sides here. But why are you so excited? |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:03:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who committed an unprovoked invasion of who? Wars like this usually see a lot of dregs on the front lines, especially with conscription in the picture. Ukraine isn't a 'good guy'. Russia however is absolutely in the wrong, and their repeated invasion and annexation of parts of neighboring countries makes Ukraine a useful tool to stop Russia's aggression. It's not about Ukraine, it's about Russia being a warmongering asshole who keeps attacking other countries. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hmmmmm Wonder when the Ukraine Bros will figure out they are backing A holed as bad as the Russians themselves.... Who committed an unprovoked invasion of who? Wars like this usually see a lot of dregs on the front lines, especially with conscription in the picture. Ukraine isn't a 'good guy'. Russia however is absolutely in the wrong, and their repeated invasion and annexation of parts of neighboring countries makes Ukraine a useful tool to stop Russia's aggression. It's not about Ukraine, it's about Russia being a warmongering asshole who keeps attacking other countries. Still not the USAs problem. Europe can finance it, not us. We have already contributed more money and weapons than 10x everyone else combined. A few short years from now the USA will be the Soviet Union 2.0, flat broke facing violence, collapse and serious problems, and shit like this is part of how we got there. 1. Blowing money on shit we shouldn’t… 2. Not knowing the difference between important spending and stupid spending. Ukraine, for usa interests is stupid spending. We already gave them probably 10x russias entire yearly defense budget in cash, and same in weapons systems. Enough already. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:03:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who committed an unprovoked invasion of who? Wars like this usually see a lot of dregs on the front lines, especially with conscription in the picture. Ukraine isn't a 'good guy'. Russia however is absolutely in the wrong, and their repeated invasion and annexation of parts of neighboring countries makes Ukraine a useful tool to stop Russia's aggression. It's not about Ukraine, it's about Russia being a warmongering asshole who keeps attacking other countries. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hmmmmm Wonder when the Ukraine Bros will figure out they are backing A holed as bad as the Russians themselves.... Who committed an unprovoked invasion of who? Wars like this usually see a lot of dregs on the front lines, especially with conscription in the picture. Ukraine isn't a 'good guy'. Russia however is absolutely in the wrong, and their repeated invasion and annexation of parts of neighboring countries makes Ukraine a useful tool to stop Russia's aggression. It's not about Ukraine, it's about Russia being a warmongering asshole who keeps attacking other countries. I support Ukraine not because they are the pinnacle of democratic ideals, effective rule of law, and the perfection of the modern nation state. I support Ukraine because Russia needs to be put down. We spent countless billions building weapons to kill Russians. Let the Ukrainians have what they want to achieve that end. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:05:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is one thing all former warsaw pact nations that are part of NATO have in common. They pay their NATO obligations. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm referring to the masscres of Polish civillians in the area encompassing southeast Poland / southwest Belarus / western Ukraine. Poland still wants Ukraine to apologize for this, and there is debate about what happened how much responsibility Ukraine has. With that said, once Russia invaded, Poland put this aside and stepped up to help their neighbor by accepting over 1M refugees and providing weapons. If Poland was an ARFCOM GD'er, they probably would have said "fuck them." Just proving that the people of Poland are better people than the "Fuck Ukraine" conspiracy theory weirdos that troll this site at times. There is one thing all former warsaw pact nations that are part of NATO have in common. They pay their NATO obligations. Unfortuately that's factually incorrect. https://www.wsj.com/articles/nato-calls-for-rise-in-defence-spending-by-alliance-members-1434978193 |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:05:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That post was satirical, if you couldn't tell. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Of course, as you mentioned, US military members have SS tattoos and patches, and it's been known for decades that the US military has a massive white supremacist gang problem. No, it isn't well known. That post was satirical, if you couldn't tell. My bros. I maybe slightly defensive when it comes to them. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:05:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t care if they are actual nazis, or being framed, still not our problem, or our fight. It’s europes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Photoshop? I don’t care if they are actual nazis, or being framed, still not our problem, or our fight. It’s europes. Will not disagree with you. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:06:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russians killed millions of them and got away with it internationally because of fellow travelers in the US. It's like the Slavic equivalent of wearing a Crusader patch while killing Muslims. I see it as akin to wearing a skull and crossbones. “We are NOT civil, and there will be no quarter given.” |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: exactly So you are FOR the however many tens of billions we've sent to ukraine?  May your taxes and inflation rest lightly on you. I had no illusions it would stop with a red wave because R's are corrupt pieces of shit too. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:06:47 PM EDT
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Deleted ~ Bollocks44
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:08:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm saying you are ignorant of the meaning. Because you are. But please, go ahead and continue to demonstrate your ignorance. Not everything that uses similar symbols means what is later historically applied to the Symbol. Do you call the Ancient Druids who used Swastikas Nazis too? Yes. Those Nazi forest fucks were neck deep in National Socialism carving their 25-point plan all over the fucking woods. Do you really think the Scout Snipers who used the SS runes were unaware of the association? Nobody thinks they were Nazis, but they absolutely were aware of the symbol. It’s fun and cool to be ironicish. Are you a child? It’s not hard to understand. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:09:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poland occupied western Ukraine for HUNDREDS of years. Poland: - 1) banned Ukrainian Cyrillic from being used - punishment was imprisonment and sometimes torture. - 2) banned the Ukrainian Orthodox church and burned many down. The Byzantine Catholic church was also persecuted even though they recognized Rome/Latin Rite. - 3) Poland confiscated Ukrainian farms -4) Poland took over whole villages, confiscated homes and moved Poles in. 5) Poland routinely persecuted and executed Ukrainians for opposing them. You know how I know? My grandparents told me about it in the 1970s and my mother is still alive and remembers when she was a little girl. A Polish official shoved a stick in my grandmother's ear to the point where it ruptured an eardrum because she didnt take his fucking orders. She always had to turn her head when she talked to me. So, I wonder what all the brave 2A-supporting ARFCOMMERS, who condemn Ukrainians for fighting Poles around WW2, would do if Mexico, Russia, China, or whomever did the above to them, their property, or their family? And before anyone says that I don't like Polish people, my wife is part Polish. I am very happy that Poland and Ukraine have been standing together for decades. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lets see how many people know what SS units were Ukrainian in WW2. What's your point? That some Ukranians were on the wrong side in WW2? That's not hard to prove. Poland is still pissed about this, but Poland still stepping up and helping their neighbor because Russia is 100% wrong. War is not an internet argument you can just grab a random point and feel like that counterbalances the entire opposing side. A little more nuanced than that, sorry it's hard for some of the geniuses here to grasp. Stalin just starved 6 million of your people to death. why would fighting with the Germans against Stalin be the wrong side? why would fighting for Stalin be the right side? Evil vs Evil. you're in the middle. I'm referring to the masscres of Polish civillians in the area encompassing southeast Poland / southwest Belarus / western Ukraine. Poland still wants Ukraine to apologize for this, and there is debate about what happened how much responsibility Ukraine has. With that said, once Russia invaded, Poland put this aside and stepped up to help their neighbor by accepting over 1M refugees and providing weapons. If Poland was an ARFCOM GD'er, they probably would have said "fuck them." Just proving that the people of Poland are better people than the "Fuck Ukraine" conspiracy theory weirdos that troll this site at times. Poland occupied western Ukraine for HUNDREDS of years. Poland: - 1) banned Ukrainian Cyrillic from being used - punishment was imprisonment and sometimes torture. - 2) banned the Ukrainian Orthodox church and burned many down. The Byzantine Catholic church was also persecuted even though they recognized Rome/Latin Rite. - 3) Poland confiscated Ukrainian farms -4) Poland took over whole villages, confiscated homes and moved Poles in. 5) Poland routinely persecuted and executed Ukrainians for opposing them. You know how I know? My grandparents told me about it in the 1970s and my mother is still alive and remembers when she was a little girl. A Polish official shoved a stick in my grandmother's ear to the point where it ruptured an eardrum because she didnt take his fucking orders. She always had to turn her head when she talked to me. So, I wonder what all the brave 2A-supporting ARFCOMMERS, who condemn Ukrainians for fighting Poles around WW2, would do if Mexico, Russia, China, or whomever did the above to them, their property, or their family? And before anyone says that I don't like Polish people, my wife is part Polish. I am very happy that Poland and Ukraine have been standing together for decades. Interesting history… still not the USAs problem to fix, or war to fight. Donate your savings, send supplies personally, Load up and take your kin and go fight it yourself, no one’s stopping you. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:09:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Covid spending, PPP, stimmy, inflation reduction act total roughly 5 trillion, all debt financed (not to mention the student loan debacle). What we have budgeted to Ukraine is approx 1-1.2% of the before mentioned amounts. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: exactly So you are FOR the however many tens of billions we've sent to ukraine? May your taxes and inflation rest lightly on you. I had no illusions it would stop with a red wave because R's are corrupt pieces of shit too. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. Trump signed away approx. $400,000,000,000 to Israel. I never hear a peep from these guys about that. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:11:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Crusaders have a somewhat checkered history of killing Jew and Muslim civilian populations because they wanted the real estate. One of their first acts after taking Jerusalem was to burn down the synagogue. That was an insurance scam. At the time of the Crusades, there were more Christian locals than Muslim. War of liberation. Spun as evil by the fucking Muslimphile Brits. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:11:52 PM EDT
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If I were going into battle and wearing a patch could slightly, possibly give me an edge and boost my morale, I’ll be the grey headed guy wearing SS runes, deaths heads, jolly rogers, Confederate flags and swastikas all over my jacket
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:11:55 PM EDT
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The Dirlewanger thing already had its place in time. Using it seems like of Johnny Come Lately. If you're that gangster why not make your own thing and and claim your time in history?
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:13:10 PM EDT
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Limp wristed faggot complains about the attire of a warrior from behind his keyboard
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:13:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Covid spending, PPP, stimmy, inflation reduction act total roughly 5 trillion, all debt financed (not to mention the student loan debacle). What we have budgeted to Ukraine is approx 1-1.2% of the before mentioned amounts. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: exactly So you are FOR the however many tens of billions we've sent to ukraine? May your taxes and inflation rest lightly on you. I had no illusions it would stop with a red wave because R's are corrupt pieces of shit too. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. If you descend into bankruptcy over massive dept, your nightly / weekly $100 buck credit card charged bar tabs are as much to blame as your $5000.00 Hawaii vacation is. It’s the “ it’s not a big deal / not much money “ mentality than bankrupts people more than it’s large purchases. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:15:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you descend into bankruptcy over massive dept, your $100 buck credit card charged bar tabs are as much to blame as your $5000.00 Hawaii vacation is. It’s the “ it’s not a big deal / not much money “ mentality than bankrupts people more than it’s large purchases. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: exactly So you are FOR the however many tens of billions we've sent to ukraine? May your taxes and inflation rest lightly on you. I had no illusions it would stop with a red wave because R's are corrupt pieces of shit too. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. If you descend into bankruptcy over massive dept, your $100 buck credit card charged bar tabs are as much to blame as your $5000.00 Hawaii vacation is. It’s the “ it’s not a big deal / not much money “ mentality than bankrupts people more than it’s large purchases. Trump signed away approx. $400,000,000,000 to Israel. I would love to read your posts opposing that. Standing by for links... |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:15:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:17:27 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ukebros earning that mental gymnastics gold today. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/vladimir-putin-laughing_zpsov82lsef_GIF-129.gif A comment with no substance. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:18:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump signed away approx. $400,000,000,000 to Israel. I never hear a peep from these guys about that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: exactly So you are FOR the however many tens of billions we've sent to ukraine? May your taxes and inflation rest lightly on you. I had no illusions it would stop with a red wave because R's are corrupt pieces of shit too. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. Trump signed away approx. $400,000,000,000 to Israel. I never hear a peep from these guys about that. Me. I was against that too. Israel needs to pay its own way, same as everyone else. 99.9% of the USAs international spending is a total waste of money, and should either never be spent, or spent at home. Honestly, if within my power, I’d cut the us governments spending 50% tomorrow, and fire 50% of all employees, just to start off. Even then spending would still be probably 10x too much, and still too many wasteful programs, wastes of money and too many government employees. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:18:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A comment with no substance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ukebros earning that mental gymnastics gold today. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/vladimir-putin-laughing_zpsov82lsef_GIF-129.gif A comment with no substance. Define irony… |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:20:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me. I was against that too. Israel needs to pay its own way, same as everyone else. 99.9% of the USAs international spending is a total waste of money, and should either never be spent, or spent at home. Honestly, if within my power, I’d cut the us governments spending 50% tomorrow, and fire 50% of all employees, just to start off. Even then spending would still be probably 10x too much, and still too many wasteful programs, wastes of money and too many government employees. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: exactly So you are FOR the however many tens of billions we've sent to ukraine? May your taxes and inflation rest lightly on you. I had no illusions it would stop with a red wave because R's are corrupt pieces of shit too. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. Trump signed away approx. $400,000,000,000 to Israel. I never hear a peep from these guys about that. Me. I was against that too. Israel needs to pay its own way, same as everyone else. 99.9% of the USAs international spending is a total waste of money, and should either never be spent, or spent at home. Honestly, if within my power, I’d cut the us governments spending 50% tomorrow, and fire 50% of all employees, just to start off. Even then spending would still be probably 10x too much, and still too many wasteful programs, wastes of money and too many government employees. Thanks for your reply. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:20:49 PM EDT
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Those are crossed Lada pistons. Not potato mashers.
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:21:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump signed away approx. $400,000,000,000 to Israel. I would love to read your posts opposing that. Standing by for links... Trump signed 400 billion dollars to Israel? Link? Cite? |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:23:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our platoon sigil was a totemkopf. Many units did similar things. Some of our guys got that tattooed on them. And no one in SoCal ever said a word about them, then. I've never seen the crossed Stielhandgranate before though. My unit incorporated the Afrika Corps palm into our unit logo prior to 9/11. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:23:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortuately that's factually incorrect. https://www.wsj.com/articles/nato-calls-for-rise-in-defence-spending-by-alliance-members-1434978193 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm referring to the masscres of Polish civillians in the area encompassing southeast Poland / southwest Belarus / western Ukraine. Poland still wants Ukraine to apologize for this, and there is debate about what happened how much responsibility Ukraine has. With that said, once Russia invaded, Poland put this aside and stepped up to help their neighbor by accepting over 1M refugees and providing weapons. If Poland was an ARFCOM GD'er, they probably would have said "fuck them." Just proving that the people of Poland are better people than the "Fuck Ukraine" conspiracy theory weirdos that troll this site at times. There is one thing all former warsaw pact nations that are part of NATO have in common. They pay their NATO obligations. Unfortuately that's factually incorrect. https://www.wsj.com/articles/nato-calls-for-rise-in-defence-spending-by-alliance-members-1434978193 @SmilingBandit Unfortunately that article is from 2015 and behind a paywall. I just go straight to source documents personally. So not all former warsaw pact nations, but most of the nations meeting their obligations were former warsaw pact. Outdated graphic on my part, and I have a feeling many more are meeting obligations now. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_193983.htm  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:23:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmmmm Wonder when the Ukraine Bros will figure out they are backing A holed as bad as the Russians themselves.... You should let the Russians know so they can get safely away from these savages (back across the Russian border would probably be their best bet). "De-nazification" had been a Russian talking point for awhile now. Don't trust the Russians. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:24:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Crusaders have a somewhat checkered history of killing Jew and Muslim civilian populations because they wanted the real estate. One of their first acts after taking Jerusalem was to burn down the synagogue. Antisemites everywhere ! Give me a fucking break |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:25:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @SmilingBandit Unfortunately that article is from 2015 and behind a paywall. I just go straight to source documents personally. So not all former warsaw pact nations, but most of the nations meeting their obligations were former warsaw pact. Outdated graphic on my part, and I have a feeling many more are meeting obligations now. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_193983.htm https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55559/NATO_GDP_Spending_jpg-2604692.JPG I’ll never support defending Luxembourg. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:26:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Covid spending, PPP, stimmy, inflation reduction act total roughly 5 trillion, all debt financed (not to mention the student loan debacle). What we have budgeted to Ukraine is approx 1-1.2% of the before mentioned amounts. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. Yep. UA gets chump change basically. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:26:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump signed 400 billion dollars to Israel? Link? Cite? More like 4 billion a year. https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the-us-give-to-israel/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ND-JusticeDefense&gclid=Cj0KCQiA99ybBhD9ARIsALvZavUOa9jcyO1ZpiHcw21Piya2Fo2keFf8lB3e7-1iCJi83uMo3o5cPoIaAkAfEALw_wcB |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:27:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump signed away approx. $400,000,000,000 to Israel. I would love to read your posts opposing that. Standing by for links... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: exactly So you are FOR the however many tens of billions we've sent to ukraine? May your taxes and inflation rest lightly on you. I had no illusions it would stop with a red wave because R's are corrupt pieces of shit too. Inflation would be unchanged if we sent zero to Ukraine. If you descend into bankruptcy over massive dept, your $100 buck credit card charged bar tabs are as much to blame as your $5000.00 Hawaii vacation is. It’s the “ it’s not a big deal / not much money “ mentality than bankrupts people more than it’s large purchases. Trump signed away approx. $400,000,000,000 to Israel. I would love to read your posts opposing that. Standing by for links... I don’t support 99.9% of USA international spending, or 50% minimum of domestic. We are too the point the USA does not even pretend to have a “ budget “, anymore and have not for years. we are 30+ trillion in debt and climbing by blowing money like drunk sailors with stolen credit cards, it SHOULD terrify you, because is going to destroy your future and opportunities and damn sure totally fuck up your childrens and grand childrens futures. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:28:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @SmilingBandit Unfortunately that article is from 2015 and behind a paywall. I just go straight to source documents personally. So not all former warsaw pact nations, but most of the nations meeting their obligations were former warsaw pact. Outdated graphic on my part, and I have a feeling many more are meeting obligations now. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_193983.htm https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55559/NATO_GDP_Spending_jpg-2604692.JPG Source documents labeled "defence" ? Euro source? |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:28:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can't be that stupid. That unit was the worst of the worst, absolute animals. I don't believe it. Lots of propaganda on both sides here. literally documented nonstop for almost 8 years prior to the start of the war...even US state dept put a notice out on it (or something like that) |
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