And the gov of the country we live in is just as corrupt

That’s carnage

the whole neighborhood got rekt too

Damn. I wonder what weapons were used against that armor, just all the anti-tanks rockets being sent over there? Looks like whoever attacked the at column would have to have a lot.

I think we have invaded ALL of our neighbors...

Let’s see:

Canada? Yes, during the Revolution and War of 1812.
Mexico? Yes, War with Mexico and more recently the Punitive Expedition with Pershing.
USSR/Russia? (As viewed from Palin’s house) Yes, Polar Bear Expedition after WWI.
Caribbean neighbors: Yes for Cuba, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Grenada
Central America: Yes for Panama, Nicaragua.

Okay, I’ll say plausible. We’ve invaded pretty much all our neighbors.

I think you're looking at this wrong.  Perhaps we just need to make sure the bullets are flying in the right direction.  I'm not sure what "fight" it is that you say you'll be out of when you make your "escape" to Mexico, Brazil, etc.  Home is worth fighting for, but if you're talking about getting sent off to some foreign conflict that is clearly a bunch of politicians' wet dreams, then I'd say you have a valid argument.

But I'm not running anywhere.  Mexico?...Brazil?...what's the old saying?..."you can run but you'll only die tired."  I'm not going to some third world shithole.  I don't have a death wish, but I'd rather fight the enemy in my own shithole with the hope of killing my enemies foreign and domestic.

Those democrats and liberals you mention do indeed need to be removed.  If it doesn't get done in the next 2/4 year election cycles in a massive way, then the political process is pretty much over.  They're not running me out of here.

Politicians start wars, people suffer from them

Maybe neither GOVERNMENT is innocent.

But the Ukrainian people are pretty innocent. So in that case these are wolves attacking sheep.

But the sheep are fighting back.

Probably artillery firing anti-armor submunition dispensing shells. Light armor gets shredded by that sort of thing. Even just normal air bursting HE can probably punch big enough holes in a BTR to matter. Or they had just dismounted and got shredded in the open. In any case, that's probably a motor rifle company or more worth the VDF wiped out.

Russia can win this thing via attrition, but Christ almighty, someone ought to tell them this isn't 1944 and lend lease isn't going to kick in to give them new trucks. At this rate I'm starting to think Ukraine might just end up pushing the fuckers back into Russia and then keep going.

Missed one.

Honduras, where the United Fruit Company and Standard Fruit Company dominated the country's key banana export sector and associated land holdings and railways, saw insertion of American troops in 1903, 1907, 1911, 1912, 1919, 1924 and 1925. The writer O. Henry coined the term "Banana republic" in 1904 to describe Honduras.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars

It's amazing the Bahamas managed to avoid an Amercian invasion.

NPR will probably praise the armed civilian defense of Ukraine and in the same breath complain that no civilian needs an AR-15

Not recently . . . mostly . . . don't think we have invaded most of South America . . . could have kept Brazil for da wimminz . . .

Optimistic, when they couldn't even push them out of Donbas.

It is enlightening to see how a much smaller and less capable military can effectively fight against a near-peer who doesn't take them seriously, when provided with copious amounts of military aid.

We didn't want to piss off the British, they were still a force to be reckoned with and the Bahamas fall under their sphere of influence, off the top of my head.

Ah, so this is the Russian propaganda thread. Got it.

Brits can’t project enough force to get the Falklands back if they are taken.

I see this has aged well.

Probably NLAWs and Javelins we’ve been sending.

You know how I know you have no idea what youre talking about?

I’m going to be honest, I’m really not sure how what he posted was minacious.

Nice aid package you got there.
Be a shame if Biden happened to it.
Better fire everybody who's investigating Hunter.

Not all Americans are pacifist willing to rollover for an invading force.

I can understand OPs post, How the heck does Russian armor get to the door step of Kiev in just 1.5 days?! That blew my mind.

That didn't age well, I am kind of thinking that Russia is getting beaten with a rod.

The only thing that makes me think otherwise is the fact that Russia has posted no propaganda about winning. I thought they would be showing dead Ukrainian soldiers all over the place, burned up vehicles and carnage they left behind. Their Army groups in the North and South seemed to have mauled any opposition, but the eastern group has stalled. Wouldn't Russia try to show that they are dominating the fight? There has been almost ZERO propaganda that I have seen that shows any type of Russian success.

Key tactical victories thus far for Russia:
1. Getting to Kiev in 1.5 days, that was insane.
2. Securing water for Crimea, everyone knew this was going to be top target, Ukraine unable to slow or stop this. Took them less then 2 days.
3. They are about to secure the land bridge from Crimea to separatist region, land area roughly 200 miles long, in about what, 5 days?

These are fast and major tactical objectives the Russians wanted to achieve, taking Kiev may take weeks, but Russians are stalling in the east. From the anti-Russian propaganda that I have seen, it looks like they are getting curb stomped! I don't know what to believe. I just pray it does not go Nuclear.

That’s all I need to hear. If you can teach my kids that phrase I’ll let you visit Missouri so you can at least see some freedom.

It's not possible the Russians don't have GPS, is it?

You’d also think that they’d have spare gas, but here we are.

Also:

Not so sure of that buddy, everybody cool till they have to fight then they bail

There was video of a drone strike on an armored column earlier and something cooked off and started blowing everything up around it.

They have them, but apparently they're not getting given to troops, just like they have NVGs but troops still don't.

In the thread started by the guy who has family there, he says that there are a lot of lost Russians with only paper maps.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Battle-for-Kyiv-Niece-making-Molotovs/5-2533785/

 You don’t understand the situation Ukraine was in regarding Donbass,at all. They DID almost take bake everything until Russia attacked with artillery from behind their border and a rush of troops that didn’t even pretend to be locals.

 Ukraine couldn’t try to push them anywhere due to Minsk accord after that,just stop them from expanding.

There is a huge difference between pushing an army out of a territory where the civilian population is friendly, and one where the civilian population is hostile.

The Russians could move freely in Donbas without worrying about what the locals might do. Not so in Kiev.

That explains some of the propaganda victims.  Not bad guys, perhaps,, just very gullible.      There’s also a lot of shills.

You don’t honestly think a “simple treaty”, could have avoided this invasion, do you?        

I’m pretty sure nobody could be that gullible.

He’s the guy that thinks a militiaman is more effective than a professional soldier.

Bermuda and Bahamas were under the protection of Great Britain, and GB was a force to be reckoned with until WW-II.     We've had a gentleman's agreement with GB ever since.

We buy lots of stealth planes, guided missles and quad nods. Yay 'Merica.

There are some things money can't buy, like willingness to go out bussin' ya gat.

I read most of that John Whitehead commentary in that link you provided. What he says comes across to me as what a yellow-bellied liberal would say, and I'm sure he's a Democrat. There is no wrong or right here. It is a matter of your values and fighting for what you believe in, that is if you don't want to eventually be enslaved. USA did NOT become the strongest nation in the world by ignoring and running from every threat and madman we've encountered. We did have to show strength to survive, and lose many lives in the process. Freedom is not FREE.... though the most recent generations of Americans are fat & lazy and think that it is.

How long ago?

The legacy media rolled over for the stolen American 2020 election... they rolled over for the ongoing invasion from Mexico... When you're a looser like Biden its all too convenient to wag the dog for some foreign land.

America First.  Our enemies are right here.

LOL, I've been following this and with certainty I can say YES, a treaty would have avoided this invasion.  And YES there is no military solution to this problem.

Washington's Crocodile Tears Over Ukraine's Destruction

Far more than that.

I could see the farm land as an insurance policy to feed Russia if the predictions on food shortages comes true.  This pairs nicely with Russia's position as the top exporter of fertilizer products.  Russia was already facing a water shortage in Crimea thanks to Ukraine blocking canals that typically supply the region with water.  If Russia lost the ability to transport water in to the area, they would lose the Black Sea Fleet home ports, their only warm water port, and access to the Med would be crippled leaving their bases in Syria to wither on the vine.

Getting booted out of SWIFT long term might be better for Russia and quite painful for us.  China and Russia has been working for almost a decade on breaking the petro dollar.  If China moves with Russia, and they have good reasons to do so to prop their most important ally up, the two could spark major financial issues if those countries, and their client states dump the dollar for the new Chinese/Russian system.  Watching how China plays this will tell a lot about our next five years.  Also remember Klaus Schwab said Putin was a member of the leadership program of the WEF.  If true Putin has ties to an organization that has the sway to make things happen in the financial world.  Also remember if Russia is out of SWIFT they cant repay loans to other nations, effectively wiping their debt while leaving the lenders with a black hole in their finances they need to bandage over.  Maybe this is another snowball that starts the next global market crash.

Ukraine is also more than gas lines.  Lots of people have not noticed that Russia has not built a large surface combatant larger than a large corvette since the collapse of the USSR.  A few years ago they lost their largest naval dry dock in the Kuznetsov accident.  Ukrainian ports used to build to large number of their large naval vessels.  Russia also lost the factories that supplied large numbers of tank engines, jet engines, and other things needed for their military.  Just so happens Russia has difficulty getting reliable engines into their new vehicles in sufficient numbers.

There's more, but I could easily see why Russia will take a hard line on this.

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