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Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:03:13 PM EDT
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Passed 51 to 48, while Del. Helmer beat his meat.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:04:11 PM EDT
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No surprise. The only chance to stop it is in the senate.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:04:32 PM EDT
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I CALLED THE FEED FREEZE!

brb affixing my tipper mount on my boog helmet
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:04:34 PM EDT
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Closer than expected.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:05:03 PM EDT
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Is there a vote count list? Who voted yes and who no?
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:05:19 PM EDT
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how about the senate whats our chances?when do they vote?
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:05:42 PM EDT
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Lol the feed has been shitty all day. Even if it was random you had like an 80% chance of being right.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:06:01 PM EDT
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Disappointed, but not surprised. Closer than I thought. Now on to calling Senators like we called Delegates.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:06:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:06:19 PM EDT
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So now it is up to the Senate...

Fuckin treasonous basturds.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:06:30 PM EDT
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4 dems in the senate have said they are iffy about it. We need two of them to vote no to stop it. Not sure when they vote.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:07:21 PM EDT
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There you have it.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:07:55 PM EDT
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Guys it still has to go to Senate commitee and then senate.
Then any amendments must be passed by the other house again.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:08:16 PM EDT
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Anyone have a list of the Yeas vs. Nays?
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:08:50 PM EDT
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Yep.

Still fucking terrible. But no surprise.

Time to go nuts on your senators!
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:09:22 PM EDT
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Commence "fuck the king" inventory inflation procedures.  Off to PSA!
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:10:10 PM EDT
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Yep.

Still fucking terrible. But no surprise.

Time to go nuts on your senators!
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No surprise. The only chance to stop it is in the senate.
Yep.

Still fucking terrible. But no surprise.

Time to go nuts on your senators!
Yup.  Gotta hit the Senate hard.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:10:11 PM EDT
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4 dems in the senate have said they are iffy about it. We need two of them to vote no to stop it. Not sure when they vote.
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The dems said that they were iffy about it "as written".

It's been amended. It will be amended in the Senate.

I fully expect it to pass into law, however I believe for that to happen, grandfathering of mags will have to be added. Effectively cutting off the supply of our shit.

The dems will fight back and forth over it, and the true believers like levine will lose their shit about it being amended, going to conference, amended again, back to conference, etc.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:10:20 PM EDT
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Senate has a better chance to vote down. This house vote was closer than I thought.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:11:29 PM EDT
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what dems in senate are iffy on it?now todays vote is that what was expected or did a couple of dems surprise us?any idea on senate time to vote?
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:11:34 PM EDT
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So they pass anti guns laws, then immediately hide behind men with guns? Did I get that right?
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Exactly this. If those officers of the state we're really honoring their oath they'd walked out or joined the angry citizenry.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:11:48 PM EDT
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Is there a roll count available somewhere?
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:12:19 PM EDT
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When does the senate vote?
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:12:44 PM EDT
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Bodes well, but it could also be political gamesmanship.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:13:13 PM EDT
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Deeds and Petersen are two of the four
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:13:23 PM EDT
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The dems said that they were iffy about it "as written".

It's been amended. It will be amended in the Senate.

I fully expect it to pass into law, however I believe for that to happen, grandfathering of mags will have to be added. Effectively cutting off the supply of our shit.

The dems will fight back and forth over it, and the true believers like levine will lose their shit about it being amended, going to conference, amended again, back to conference, etc.
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4 dems in the senate have said they are iffy about it. We need two of them to vote no to stop it. Not sure when they vote.
The dems said that they were iffy about it "as written".

It's been amended. It will be amended in the Senate.

I fully expect it to pass into law, however I believe for that to happen, grandfathering of mags will have to be added. Effectively cutting off the supply of our shit.

The dems will fight back and forth over it, and the true believers like levine will lose their shit about it being amended, going to conference, amended again, back to conference, etc.
I agree. It will likely pass the senate with some more watering down. Probably the magazines section like you said. It’s the only part that hasn’t been drastically dialed back.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:15:13 PM EDT
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so i can keep my ar just cant buy new mags for it,or at least buy in va
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:15:48 PM EDT
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I agree. It will likely pass the senate with some more watering down. Probably the magazines section like you said. It’s the only part that hasn’t been drastically dialed back.
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Yup.

These assholes, as much as they wish they could, aren't going for confiscation yet.

They want to cut the supply line first. If I were a betting man, I'd say tinkering with the mag portion of 961 is a given.

"You can keep what you have, but you cannot buy anymore".
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:16:00 PM EDT
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This was inevitable.  Sadly, very few gun laws are removed from the books once added (exception was the AWB...only because of the sunset clause).  Even if Republicans take back the house, senate, and governors seat I seriously doubt they would remove these laws from the books.  VA is stuck with this shit for the time being, and likely for quite a while.
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Will Virginians actually boogaloo now or will they just keep posting memes? I can make it to va this time...missed the rally but I'm back stateside if we need people to head to va.
This was inevitable.  Sadly, very few gun laws are removed from the books once added (exception was the AWB...only because of the sunset clause).  Even if Republicans take back the house, senate, and governors seat I seriously doubt they would remove these laws from the books.  VA is stuck with this shit for the time being, and likely for quite a while.
The longer it sticks the more likely it is to stay stuck.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:16:02 PM EDT
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961 will go to the senate and they will allow grandfathering of mags. 961 will pass the Senate in that case and become law.
It's fucking bullshit, but hey, remember to give "W', the Va GOP, the GOP/GOP leaning voters with a case of Muh Candidate Ain't pure syndrome a big fucking thanks for this.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:16:14 PM EDT
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Shouldn't we be identifying any vulnerable politicians and hammering them for voting in favor of this bill?
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:16:53 PM EDT
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Shouldn't we be identifying any vulnerable politicians and hammering them for voting in favor of this bill?
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Deeds and I believe Lewis in the Senate.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:17:13 PM EDT
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Hammer your senator regardless
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:17:34 PM EDT
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Here you go, all Senate contacts:

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Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:17:58 PM EDT
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Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop.

And can't have a suppressor.

The bill must still survive the senate committee, the senate vote, and pass the house again if the modifications are substantial.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:20:50 PM EDT
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so i can keep my ar just cant buy new mags for it,or at least buy in va
Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop.

And can't have a suppressor.
I believe it was spelled out a few days ago, but what about unbuilt lowers? The lowers were bought before this bullshit law.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:21:01 PM EDT
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Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop.

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Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop.

And can't have a suppressor.
Yup.

Revolvers, bolt/ lever action, shotguns, etc.  FUDD Central.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:21:38 PM EDT
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You would think Deeds would understand that the problem is not the tool, but the mental health of the perpetrator.

"On November 19, 2013, Deeds was stabbed multiple times at his home in Bath County, Virginia by his 24-year-old son, Gus, who then committed suicide. Deeds was initially reported to be in critical condition at University of Virginia Medical Center. Although a judge had issued an involuntary commitment order for Gus, and despite an intensive search, no available hospital bed could be found to provide him mental health treatment in the days before the attempted murder and he was released home without the ordered treatment. As a consequence, several changes were made in the screening and admission process for people undergoing an emergency psychiatric examination in Virginia."
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:22:33 PM EDT
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I believe it was spelled out a few days ago, but what about unbuilt lowers? The lowers were bought before this bullshit law.
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so i can keep my ar just cant buy new mags for it,or at least buy in va
Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop.

And can't have a suppressor.
I believe it was spelled out a few days ago, but what about unbuilt lowers? The lowers were bought before this bullshit law.
For now. Let's focus on having the senate kill it.

We'll see what it looks like when they are done with it if that time comes.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:23:22 PM EDT
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For now. Let's focus on having the senate kill it.

We'll see what it looks like when they are done with it if that time comes.
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so i can keep my ar just cant buy new mags for it,or at least buy in va
Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop.

And can't have a suppressor.
I believe it was spelled out a few days ago, but what about unbuilt lowers? The lowers were bought before this bullshit law.
For now. Let's focus on having the senate kill it.

We'll see what it looks like when they are done with it if that time comes.
You may find my lack of faith disturbing.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:23:35 PM EDT
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lets say it passes where would we sell these mags?its a buyers market and prices low already.no one will really want them so there are just trash
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:23:50 PM EDT
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I believe it was spelled out a few days ago, but what about unbuilt lowers? The lowers were bought before this bullshit law.
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so i can keep my ar just cant buy new mags for it,or at least buy in va
Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop.

And can't have a suppressor.
I believe it was spelled out a few days ago, but what about unbuilt lowers? The lowers were bought before this bullshit law.
"May not build" was in the law, whatever that means, and "may not import parts of" banned weapons. Technically (notwithstanding the in-flight court case about it in federal court) a lower is a complete firearm, but you can't import parts, so you'd have to have all of those parts on hand to assemble (but not build) a banned firearm. I am not a lawyer though, and my liability for this advice is exactly what you paid me to receive it.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:25:00 PM EDT
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If that's what you're worried about, and buy into the grandfathering thing, you're not helping the cause.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:26:21 PM EDT
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im worried about stopping it.also concearns me as its got value and we shouldnt have to lose it
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:27:35 PM EDT
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so i can keep my ar just cant buy new mags for it,or at least buy in va
Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop.

And can't have a suppressor.
I believe it was spelled out a few days ago, but what about unbuilt lowers? The lowers were bought before this bullshit law.
For now. Let's focus on having the senate kill it.

We'll see what it looks like when they are done with it if that time comes.
You may find my lack of faith disturbing.
While I want it to die completely... I doubt it will. True.

But, I think it will look different than it does now.

So nit-picking the legal details at this point is a waste of effort.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:27:37 PM EDT
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I’ll buy yours.
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so i can keep my ar just cant buy new mags for it,or at least buy in va
Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop.

And can't have a suppressor.
I believe it was spelled out a few days ago, but what about unbuilt lowers? The lowers were bought before this bullshit law.
For now. Let's focus on having the senate kill it.

We'll see what it looks like when they are done with it if that time comes.
You may find my lack of faith disturbing.
That’s cool. There is just no point if what iffing the bill. It could still change (for better or worse) so no one really knows what will happen with lowers or anything else.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:29:41 PM EDT
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They don't care if you lose money. Should be able to claim the loses that they cause on your taxes, but you can't.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 3:29:48 PM EDT
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Or you could... you know... keep them?
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