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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:30:23 PM EDT
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He won by less than 1500 votes. Time to boot his ass out!  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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L.J. Carter is a commie pinko sacklicker! |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:30:30 PM EDT
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So basically best case scenario right now the senate will just block new 12+ round mags (and grandfather what's already here), similar to CO, and everyone will go to WV, PA, TN, etc. to get them instead. LEOs won't bother because there is nothing for them to enforce. Great plan. I feel safer.
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:31:04 PM EDT
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Or you could... you know... keep them? |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:31:24 PM EDT
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Once in effect you may not possess magazines for semi-automatic, center-fire firearms with a capacity of more than 12 rounds, full-stop. And can't have a suppressor. The bill must still survive the senate committee, the senate vote, and pass the house again if the modifications are substantial. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so i can keep my ar just cant buy new mags for it,or at least buy in va And can't have a suppressor. The bill must still survive the senate committee, the senate vote, and pass the house again if the modifications are substantial. I also read it that if you already possess a "silencer" (as of the effective date of the legislation, presumable July 1) then you may keep it in Virginia. New "silencer" acquisitions would be verboten. However, I am not a Leftist piece of shit so maybe I am interpreting it wrong. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:31:46 PM EDT
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And can't have a suppressor. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:31:55 PM EDT
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lets say it passes where would we sell these mags?its a buyers market and prices low already.no one will really want them so there are just trash 
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:32:09 PM EDT
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if passes says cannot have,unless grandfathered.time to really hit senators up to protect us
just pissed and venting.
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:32:19 PM EDT
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Where does it say that? |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:32:51 PM EDT
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Where does it say that? |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:33:00 PM EDT
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So basically best case scenario right now the senate will just block new 12+ round mags (and grandfather what's already here), similar to CO, and everyone will go to WV, PA, TN, etc. to get them instead. LEOs won't bother because there is nothing for them to enforce. Great plan. I feel safer. Most likely scenario is the Senate amends it to allow grandfathering of currently owned standard capacity mags. Coonman laughs at us and we still tell him to go fuck himself. Slightly less but still viable scenario is Deeds and Lewis fold like bitches and it passes as is. Coonman laughs, Va gunowners must make a terrible choice. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:33:07 PM EDT
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meanwhile in the senate, a gun bill failed(not sure how to properly link tweeter)
https://twitter.com/LVozzella/status/1227287657904050178 |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:33:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean, as a hypothetical, under this bill, possession is only a misdemeanor, whereas sale/transfer is a felony. So that seems like the best course. 
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:33:33 PM EDT
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Or you could... you know... |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:34:07 PM EDT
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Transport is a felony. Therefore, unless you have a backyard range, get caught "transporting" a mag over 12, and it's a felony charge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I mean, as a hypothetical, under this bill, possession is only a misdemeanor, whereas sale/transfer is a felony. So that seems like the best course. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:34:45 PM EDT
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Best case scenario is Deeds and Lewis keep their word and vote it down. It dies, we tell Coonman to kiss our asses until next year. Most likely scenario is the Senate amends it to allow grandfathering of currently owned standard capacity mags. Coonman laughs at us and we still tell him to go fuck himself. Slightly less but still viable scenario is Deeds and Lewis fold like bitches and it passes as is. Coonman laughs, Va gunowners must make a terrible choice. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:34:58 PM EDT
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lets say it passes where would we sell these mags?its a buyers market and prices low already.no one will really want them so there are just trash I am speaking of what you could do "legally" if this trash legislation becomes law. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:36:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We need to turn at least one more senator on this to get a safety margin. Lewis Petersen Edwards Hammer them. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:36:57 PM EDT
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meanwhile in the senate, a gun bill failed(not sure how to properly link tweeter) https://twitter.com/LVozzella/status/1227287657904050178
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Transport is a felony. Therefore, unless you have a backyard range, get caught "transporting" a mag over 12, and it's a felony charge. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:38:22 PM EDT
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The idea that minorities are more likely to suffer ill health due to their proximity to industrial regions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF is Environmental Justice? |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:40:05 PM EDT
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Spot on. They'll either grandfather mags, or up the limit to 15, or both and it will likely be done.
No matter what they do, I won't comply with any of it, and I will not be a part of funding the new Virginia any longer than I have to. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:40:05 PM EDT
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lets say it passes where would we sell these mags?its a buyers market and prices low already.no one will really want them so there are just trash I ordered some yesterday too. And last Friday. 
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:44:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:44:43 PM EDT
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Deeds Lewis Petersen Edwards Hammer them. GA: 804-698-7525 District: 434-296-5491 [email protected] Lewis GA: 804-698-7506 District: 757-787-1094 [email protected] Petersen GA: 804-698-7534 District: 703-349-3361 [email protected] Edwards GA: 804-698-7521 District: 540-985-8690 [email protected] |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:45:45 PM EDT
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meanwhile in the senate, a gun bill failed(not sure how to properly link tweeter) https://twitter.com/LVozzella/status/1227287657904050178
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:47:14 PM EDT
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I ordered new mags this morning. I ordered some yesterday too. And last Friday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lets say it passes where would we sell these mags?its a buyers market and prices low already.no one will really want them so there are just trash I ordered some yesterday too. And last Friday. 
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:47:23 PM EDT
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Deeds Lewis Petersen Edwards Hammer them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: We need to turn at least one more senator on this to get a safety margin. Lewis Petersen Edwards Hammer them. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:47:50 PM EDT
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meanwhile in the senate, a gun bill failed(not sure how to properly link tweeter) https://twitter.com/LVozzella/status/1227287657904050178
 Attached FileETA: Lewis and Petersen voted NAY. Deeds & Edwards voted YEA |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:51:13 PM EDT
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The way this bill allows transfers of grandfathered weapons as gifts to immediate family members is strange. Do any other state AWBs allow this? IIRC at least some of the others don't even allow inheritance.
At least it'll allow us to make sure they'll be passed on to someone that is more likely to keep them and maintain them rather than just turning them in or selling them out of state. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:53:00 PM EDT
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It doesn't. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:54:54 PM EDT
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The way this bill allows transfers of grandfathered weapons as gifts to immediate family members is strange. Do any other state AWBs allow this? IIRC at least some of the others don't even allow inheritance. At least it'll allow us to make sure they'll be passed on to someone that is more likely to keep them and maintain them rather than just turning them in or selling them out of state. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:55:40 PM EDT
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Deeds GA: 804-698-7525 District: 434-296-5491 [email protected] Lewis GA: 804-698-7506 District: 757-787-1094 [email protected] Petersen GA: 804-698-7534 District: 703-349-3361 [email protected] Edwards GA: 804-698-7521 District: 540-985-8690 [email protected] Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Deeds Lewis Petersen Edwards Hammer them. GA: 804-698-7525 District: 434-296-5491 [email protected] Lewis GA: 804-698-7506 District: 757-787-1094 [email protected] Petersen GA: 804-698-7534 District: 703-349-3361 [email protected] Edwards GA: 804-698-7521 District: 540-985-8690 [email protected] |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:55:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s cool. There is just no point if what iffing the bill. It could still change (for better or worse) so no one really knows what will happen with lowers or anything else. 
That said hope does not spring eternal as far as looking for any mercy or understanding from POS dems. Truth be told I would just sooner them get it over with and see how they like all their newly minted felons come next July 1. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:55:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I ordered new mags this morning. I ordered some yesterday too. And last Friday. 
Glock 10s 
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:58:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCan’t even be bothered to show up. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:00:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me too
Glock 10s
"Breakin the law, breakin the law" 
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:00:27 PM EDT
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The way this bill allows transfers of grandfathered weapons as gifts to immediate family members is strange. Do any other state AWBs allow this? IIRC at least some of the others don't even allow inheritance. At least it'll allow us to make sure they'll be passed on to someone that is more likely to keep them and maintain them rather than just turning them in or selling them out of state. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good job Joshua Cole. Thank you for your service. Can’t even be bothered to show up. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:01:53 PM EDT
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So much for representing the people. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:05:48 PM EDT
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Make no mistake, they are coming back for more next session or next mass shooting. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:09:55 PM EDT
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Or you could... you know...  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:13:09 PM EDT
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Or honor their oaths. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So much for representing the people. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:14:31 PM EDT
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Give Sally Hudson from Albemarle County a call at (804)698-1057 and let her know that you're extremely disappointed in her vote and you won't be voting for her in the future.
Also let them know that you're extremely disappointed that she wants to put her constituents out of work, thus making them unable to feed their families. This bill would shut down multiple local firearm manufacturers that employee constituents in her area. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:19:13 PM EDT
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From what I've read, the most damaging part of this bill would be (IMO) the "or parts" wording.
Yeah, they might grandfather owning an MSR and normal cap mags but the "or parts" wording just made the state of VA a "do not ship" state for vendors, i.e. PSA, G, etc..., for anything related to a semiauto weapon. I could also see how they could apply the "or parts" to silencers. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:20:48 PM EDT
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any idea at all on when itll be the senates turn?
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:26:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Deeds GA: 804-698-7525 District: 434-296-5491 [email protected] Lewis GA: 804-698-7506 District: 757-787-1094 [email protected] Petersen GA: 804-698-7534 District: 703-349-3361 [email protected] Edwards GA: 804-698-7521 District: 540-985-8690 [email protected] Several weeks ago I watched as you gave good arguments against a proposed bill in the Senate Judiciary Committee which would have made it illegal for you to give your child a shotgun or rifle with which to hunt due to the age change from 14 to 18 at which someone could leave a gun unsupervised with the youth. Your statements showed that you put serious thought into the impacts of these laws. Please place similar thought on the magazine and so-called “assault weapon” ban. You sound like a gun owner to me although I am not sure what you own and how you feel about them. If you are an owner I am sure you are aware that even your beloved bolt action 22 rifle or 22 handgun magazines will likely be outlawed by the HB961 coming through crossover, and virtually all common compact, mid and full size pistol OEM magazines that ship in the box from the manufacturer (15 round glock etc). Thank you. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:27:54 PM EDT
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any idea at all on when itll be the senates turn? |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:29:19 PM EDT
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From what I've read, the most damaging part of this bill would be (IMO) the "or parts" wording. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:30:28 PM EDT
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It's vitally important to kill the bill in the Senate this year, not just hope for more watering down. 2021 is an election year, which means Dems in districts that could flip will be unlikely to support draconian gun control. I expect the backlash against the current shenanigans to get people out to the polls this fall to vote for Trump and either turn Virginia red again or at least show marginal Democrats that their seats are in danger. Assuming greater Republican turnout in 2020, the fear of that same turnout in 2021 would keep any bad gun bills off the docket. If we can kill this thing now, we might be able to buy time till at least 2022, allowing ourselves more time to build grass roots and organize a counter-movement. But if anything passes this year, it's going to be much harder to overturn it in the future.
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:36:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The most damaging part as currently written is that possession of mags over 12 rounds is a crime. No grandfathering. |
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