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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:42:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh! As an East JaCo resident, is there groups/petitions etc for this? I loathe the current Jackson county gov't and the KC aspects of it. Would love to see the county split! I have not heard of this before...I'm in the same area and I'm 100% in for this! |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:50:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't beat the first Publicly-funded pro sports stadiums are a racket. The taxpayers are essentially guaranteeing the profits of the wealthy owners. Like Robin Hood, in reverse. This. The teams already get free promotion and marketing from the media, and much of the general public acts like the NFL is a national treasure that cannot be done without. I guess it is like the Romans providing entertainment for the masses in Colosseum. What other businesses in the US get as much free advertising and hype. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:52:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. The teams already get free promotion and marketing from the media, and much of the general public acts like the NFL is a national treasure that cannot be done without. I guess it is like the Romans providing entertainment for the masses in Colosseum. What other businesses in the US get as much free advertising and hype. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can't beat the first Publicly-funded pro sports stadiums are a racket. The taxpayers are essentially guaranteeing the profits of the wealthy owners. Like Robin Hood, in reverse. This. The teams already get free promotion and marketing from the media, and much of the general public acts like the NFL is a national treasure that cannot be done without. I guess it is like the Romans providing entertainment for the masses in Colosseum. What other businesses in the US get as much free advertising and hype. Politics |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:55:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. Yep, total BS that the tax payer money is ever used for stadiums for professional sports where owners pay hundreds of millions if not over a billion to buy teams and pay players millions. Let the private sector pay to build them and run them. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:05:04 PM EDT
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If stadiums, ballparks, and arenas are such great investments, then the teams should have no trouble at all recruiting private investors.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:07:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:07:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't beat the first Publicly-funded pro sports stadiums are a racket. The taxpayers are essentially guaranteeing the profits of the wealthy owners. Like Robin Hood, in reverse.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:11:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:13:58 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. Exactly. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:27:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have also removed Royals from public access TV viewing, who wants to pay for the stadiums and then have to pay for a streaming TV service to watch the game? Thats nuts. That's the MLB doing that and not the Royals. At least you're only blacked out from seeing Royals and/or Cardinals games. Iowa get's blacked out for Brewers, Cardinals, Cubs, Royals, Twins, and the White Sox.... 
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:43:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And stupid. Putting Allegiant stadium so close to the freeway was stupid. Putting the new A's stadium right there in the middle of the Strip is industrial strength stupid. What the holy blue fuq are these idiots thinking??? Eh, Baseball is trying to get back to the old days, were the stadium was a part of down town, and most people didn't drive to the game. Astros/Cardinals/Twins/Lots of others are that way, and b/c of it most of the time I've taken an Uber to the game, and then spend time drinking after the game until Uber is reasonable to get back home/to hotel. Once the A's go to Vegas, I'll for sure fly in for a few days to stay on the strip and catch a few games in a row. As I won't be driving to the games, I'll more likely to stay on the strip for ease of getting to the stadium. Me plus millions of others will use a few baseball games as an excuse to go and spend money in Vegas. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:51:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 12:51:44 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:37:45 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. FPNI again |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:38:21 PM EDT
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These owners think that it's still 1980 and that there are a lot of cities where they can move to and draw a crowd.
Look how Jacksonville worked out for the NFL, and there are others in baseball, too. If you want it, build it yourself, stop stealing from the taxpayers. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:41:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes we did. It was a surprise to me. The politicians will keep trying to get it passed one way or another. But for now they have been kicked to the curb way bigger metros out there now. It's not 1970 anymore. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:43:15 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:43:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These owners think that it's still 1980 and that there are a lot of cities where they can move to and draw a crowd. Look how Jacksonville worked out for the NFL, and there are others in baseball, too. If you want it, build it yourself, stop stealing from the taxpayers. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:46:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Only taxpayers should have been allowed to vote on this
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:46:37 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. This! $60 parking, $20 beers, and multimillion dollar contracts. You can't build your own stadium to fleece the public and pay yourselves millions? Oh well. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:46:48 PM EDT
[#21]
Since taxpayers are so generous, give all business owners a blank check to build whatever facilities they want for their business.
The more, the merrier. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:48:41 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Public risk, private gain. "Stadium funding tax" when you rent a car in the surrounding area of Detroit. Goes right to the Illitch family. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:49:46 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: “Vibrant arts district”. Lol. Get shot in the face and carjacked district is more like it. Where are they trying to put the new one? I can't think of any place closer to downtown that wouldn't be absolutely terrible for traffic. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 1:53:46 PM EDT
[#24]
Let them move to Kansas City
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Posted: 4/3/2024 2:08:00 PM EDT
[#25]
The taxpayers of Harris county Texas are still paying for the Astrodome, which hasn't been used for about 20 years. In fact, there was a resolution on the ballot whether to tear it down or not. Tear it down won, and the city council ignored it. I'm thinking it's still standing is because it's full of asbestos and they don't want to pay for the hazardous cleanup.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 2:28:54 PM EDT
[#26]
Finally, a unified arfcom!
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Posted: 4/3/2024 2:32:17 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see it as the opposite, KC isn't a big metro anymore, it's growing slower than the rest of the country. The chances of them packing up and moving somewhere like Austin are high. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: These owners think that it's still 1980 and that there are a lot of cities where they can move to and draw a crowd. Look how Jacksonville worked out for the NFL, and there are others in baseball, too. If you want it, build it yourself, stop stealing from the taxpayers. Royals…maybe. Chiefs….not going to happen. The Chiefs involvement in this measure was just due to proximity. This has been a Royals driven initiative for years. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 2:34:33 PM EDT
[#28]
Meh, pro ball teams come and go. Time to move on. Maybe if the economy ever recovers the big cities will be able to afford these luxuries or maybe not.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 2:45:21 PM EDT
[#29]
Sherman is a dumbass. Not sure I'd pay to go to a game as long as he's the owner.
I expected it to lose, but not this soundly. Could be an indication that in These Trying Times people are tired of paying these people's way. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 2:48:24 PM EDT
[#30]
Back in the 1990's Chicago Bears GM Mike McCaskey approached mayor Little Dick Daley to demand that the city build a new stadium. Or else he'd move the team to Gary, Indiana (lol).
Mind, this was the year that Northwestern took a break from getting whaled on by girl scouts and retarded kids and won the Rose Bowl. I've never known Mayor Short shanks to get anything right before or since, but the stuttering prick told McCaskey "When you have the best football team in Chicago, then come back and make demands." (In the interest of historical accuracy, I'm pretty sure that Daley caved and coughed up for a new stadium as soon as the fat envelopes showed up.) Oh, BTW, fuck John Elway, and for pretty much the same reason. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 2:49:55 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally, a unified arfcom! When I saw the story, I thought "arfcom could use a thread of unity". |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 2:51:32 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If the miserable owner does move the team, I'll watch the Cardinals or find something else to do. There's nothing wrong with Kaminski Park that gassing the rest of the neighborhood wouldn't fix. But if they really do move, you know, there is this other team a hell of a lot closer than St Louis... |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 2:56:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. I'll second that, and thanks for that. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:03:03 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. Fuk-in-a right. They want a tax...add it to the concession prices, ticket prices, broadcast rights, players paychecks, owners income, trophy wife pampering, etc. Triple tax for AB and Bud Light
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:09:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Maybe the well funded BLM can kick down?
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article249018010.html Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce told reporters February 4, 2021, that he and Patrick Mahomes are committed to continuing the Black Lives Matter cause in Kansas City. Kelce said the Chiefs 'lock arms and stand together' on those issues. Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article249018010.html#storylink=cpy 
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:21:51 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let the owners pay for the whole thing Government has no business in paying for private property. FJerryWorld |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:22:21 PM EDT
[#37]
What exactly does the general public get out of it? Not like you can go see anything for less than $100.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:25:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Have a bake sale, raise some money.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:29:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What exactly does the general public get out of it? Not like you can go see anything for less than $100. Personal Seat License bill if you want season tickets. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:34:09 PM EDT
[#40]
If this shit is publicly funded then seats should be free or heavily discounted. Im down for this socialism
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:45:11 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where are they trying to put the new one? I can't think of any place closer to downtown that wouldn't be absolutely terrible for traffic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: “Vibrant arts district”. Lol. Get shot in the face and carjacked district is more like it. Where are they trying to put the new one? I can't think of any place closer to downtown that wouldn't be absolutely terrible for traffic. Basically where the original Kansas City A’s stadium was. It is now the hood and no, there is noway to get that much traffic through there. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:46:33 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe the well funded BLM can kick down? https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article249018010.html Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce told reporters February 4, 2021, that he and Patrick Mahomes are committed to continuing the Black Lives Matter cause in Kansas City. Kelce said the Chiefs 'lock arms and stand together' on those issues. Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article249018010.html#storylink=cpy https://img.mlbstatic.com/mlb-images/image/private/ar_16:9,g_auto,q_auto:good,w_1536,c_fill,f_jpg/mlb/tmozfgrlaidzk8ldblpq I understand where you’re coming from but we’re talking about the virtue signaling of paid athletes, or maybe the marketing or ownership. Regardless, I don’t consult them for their opinions about anything. They run, catch, hit, & score. That’s it. They aren’t changing hears or minds regarding the BLM fad, and Clark Hunt is a douche. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:55:24 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see it as the opposite, KC isn't a big metro anymore, it's growing slower than the rest of the country. The chances of them packing up and moving somewhere like Austin are high. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: These owners think that it's still 1980 and that there are a lot of cities where they can move to and draw a crowd. Look how Jacksonville worked out for the NFL, and there are others in baseball, too. If you want it, build it yourself, stop stealing from the taxpayers. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 4:02:59 PM EDT
[#44]
Maybe the players can kneel in protest.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 4:09:41 PM EDT
[#45]
Outstanding.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 4:14:58 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see it as the opposite, KC isn't a big metro anymore, it's growing slower than the rest of the country. The chances of them packing up and moving somewhere like Austin are high. It's really simple: If the market can't or won't support your business, find one that does, or fold. I don't care which. Jay |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 4:17:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Im sure residents won't have to pay $9 for a hot dog and $20 for a beer after they pay for the fking stadium right?
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Posted: 4/3/2024 4:26:08 PM EDT
[#48]
Fpni. Bunch of bullshit hiking taxes to pay for that.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 4:26:12 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: “Vibrant arts district”. Lol. Get shot in the face and carjacked district is more like it. :D I see you know about The Paseo and 18th and Vine. We are all required to pretend to love walking around in Missouri Mogadishu and viewing the "building art". |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 4:28:59 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ask the millionaires who play on the field to chip in. They can't. Gots to have that lavender pimp-jacket and them $10,000 sunglasses. Shits expensive yo. |
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