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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:03:56 PM EDT
https://www.defensenews.com/land/2022/06/28/us-army-unveils-contract-to-build-new-light-tank-for-infantry-forces/
:quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/mco/6F6VF25GCFF2HFJCOITRJSGNPE.JPG) The U.S. Army on Tuesday selected General Dynamics Land Systems to build a light tank meant to improve mobility, protection and direct-fire capabilities for Infantry Brigade Combat Teams. The production deal is a key step forward for Army Futures Command, which has promised faster and more successful modernization programs through a competitive prototyping approach. GDLS will deliver 26 vehicles initially, but the contract allows the Army to buy 70 more over the course of low-rate initial production for a total of $1.14 billion, according to the Army. At least eight of the 12 prototypes used during competitive evaluation will be retrofitted to be fielded to the force, service officials in charge of the competition said. The first production vehicles are expected to be delivered in just under 19 months. The first unit will receive a battalion’s worth of MPF systems — 42 vehicles — by the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025. The Army plans to enter full-rate production in calendar year 2025, according to GDLS. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/next-generation-m1-abrams-tank-teased-by-general-dynamics Promotional materials provide glimpses of a new version of the M1 Abrams main battle tank. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_june_2022_global_security_army_industry/discover_next_generation_american-made_m1_abrams_mbt_main_battle_tank.html Discover Next Generation American-made M1 Abrams MBT Main Battle Tank https://eurasiantimes.com/americas-silent-killer-gdld-releases-cryptic-teaser-of-next-gen-abrams-main-battle-tanks-watch/ America’s ‘Silent Killer’ — GDLD Releases ‘Cryptic Teaser’ Of Next-Gen Abrams Main Battle Tanks  General Dynamics announces next generation of US M1 Abrams MBT Main Battle Tank |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:04:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Dear god don't be an EV.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:05:14 PM EDT
[#2]
So they put a suppressor on an Abrams? Or is it an electric Abrams?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:05:52 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dear god don't be an EV. It is an all of the crews will be LBGTQ whatever the fuck they're called |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:08:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Did they really do a Jeep and give it angry eyes?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:11:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they really do a Jeep and give it angry eyes? It scares the Infantry |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:12:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dear god don't be an EV. "silent strike" Well hell, looks like they're doing that. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:13:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is an all of the crews will be LBGTQ whatever the fuck they're called With new Rainbow Pride camouflage |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:14:24 PM EDT
[#8]
Has the gay ass infinity looking headlights along with enough battery power to keep child slaves in Africa employed at least until they’re rebel soldiers
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:14:55 PM EDT
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i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:16:32 PM EDT
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I have no idea if this is what they did, but there was a proposal years ago to go with a diesel generator and electric drive train. Saved fuel, weight and maint costs. Gave you more acceleration and range.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:16:51 PM EDT
[#11]
CROWS right above the main gun?
Izzies used to (maybe still do) mount an M2 to the main gun |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:17:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine. 
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:18:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine. 
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:20:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Please be an EV
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:21:00 PM EDT
[#15]
So did they start development on this before the Marines abandoned tanks, or after?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:21:07 PM EDT
[#16]
But why?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:21:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With new Rainbow Pride camouflage Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is an all of the crews will be LBGTQ whatever the fuck they're called With new Rainbow Pride camouflage Instead of smoke grenades it'll have glitter grenades  |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:21:59 PM EDT
[#18]
No love for the M1A1 Prius?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:23:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine. Yeah, what's wrong with the turbine? The only real weakness I know of is that it consumes a lot of fuel - but being a very multi-fuel capable engine in a time where they were expecting to be retreating with supply lines that would have been getting shorter (and the ability to scrounge fuel from wherever they happened to find it), the turbine made sense. Low coolant requirements and a small size helped too. It's too bad they didn't follow through with the re-engening that got canceled with the Crusader. Same power with a lot less fuel consumption and a seamless drop-in swap. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:23:55 PM EDT
[#20]
Old Abrams.....new Abrams. Betcha if I rolled up a BDU blouse I'd still be able to take a nap on the thing.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:24:20 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:24:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea if this is what they did, but there was a proposal years ago to go with a diesel generator and electric drive train. Saved fuel, weight and maint costs. Gave you more acceleration and range. Basically like a freight locomotive? Could be cool. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:25:24 PM EDT
[#23]
It’d be funny if it ends up having a welded cage on top
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:25:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is an all of the crews will be LBGTQ whatever the fuck they're called Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dear god don't be an EV. It is an all of the crews will be LBGTQ whatever the fuck they're called The crew (xrew?) will have to enter their pronouns before it starts up and moves. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:28:30 PM EDT
[#25]
QinetiQ has been working on the electric drive. The army is interested for the Bradley and it’s replacement in particular.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:30:52 PM EDT
[#26]
I'm quite happy with the existing power-pack, thank you. My guess is hybrid. Legacy M1 is quiet AF compared to its diesal ancestors. Hybrid could be a logical step forward. All electric...no thanks.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:33:04 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "silent strike" Well hell, looks like they're doing that. "Silent strike".... Turbine engine combined with muddy track render them very quiet. Throw in a little morning mist and they are stealth-like for human senses....of course modern thermal, infrared and such still pick them out like full daylight. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:35:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine. Should stick to Korean hamster cars and big block Mopars |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:39:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Who are they advertising to?
Hey taxpayers, I know inflation is bad and we're tapped out with multi-trillion dollar budget deficits that you haven't even begun to pay for which poses a far greater threat to your national security than any adversary this grift machine would ever be used against, but let us fuck you a little more with this sick new ride. Call your congressman today and have him support this sheer waste of money that your children will be co-signing the loan on until the wheels fall off of what's left of your husk country |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:40:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should stick to Korean hamster cars and big block Mopars they belong in the air not on the ground. were the only ones that have made them work but at a needless cost. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:44:03 PM EDT
[#31]
I kind of feel like the era of tanks is over.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:44:09 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine. Hey, now - That turbine shares the same lineage as the mighty Mopar you're driving!
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:46:15 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm assuming after Ukraine the Army is now installing Active Protection Systems now?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:47:45 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically like a freight locomotive? Could be cool. Electric drive goes back to WW2 with the US T-23 and german Porsche Elefant.. T-23 was Ordnance's proposed Sherman replacement but the Armored Force rejected the electric drive.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:47:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It scares the Infantry Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did they really do a Jeep and give it angry eyes? It scares the Infantry It'll surely scare the civilians that'll get run over by it as it flies the LGBTQIASIIHP flag. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:49:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:52:46 PM EDT
[#37]
EV Tanks are all fun and games until the lithium-cobalt battery pack takes a hit then explodes more violently than a T-72 taking a SABOT in the ass, I mean gas tanks.
Seriously people, lithium-ion is no fucking joke. 
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:53:15 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey, now - That turbine shares the same lineage as the mighty Mopar you're driving! oh i know. there is a reason they never made the jet car into production. each engine was near $100,000 in todays money. they are extremely expensive. A Abrams is like what? 10 million? would not be surprised if 3 million of that is just of the engine itself. sure back in the 70s conventional engines could not do the power output required but now? fuck we can make a v12 have 2000 hp easy, maybe even multi fuel just put a fucking normal engine in it already for half the cost. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:54:13 PM EDT
[#39]
I thought the silent killer was alzheimers
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:56:16 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Instead of smoke grenades it'll have glitter grenades They can take that to the nearest Air Force Base when they have drag queen shows and fire them off |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:59:01 PM EDT
[#41]
i bet you this new tank is going to be 25 million a pop with little notable change in combat capability compared to a current Abrams
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:05:49 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With new Rainbow Pride camouflage They might as well paint it pink with flames on the side and call it Trixie. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:06:24 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine. Why is the turbine engine stupid? |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:08:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they really do a Jeep and give it angry eyes? Angry Eyes Abrams 
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: oh i know. there is a reason they never made the jet car into production. each engine was near $100,000 in todays money. they are extremely expensive. A Abrams is like what? 10 million? would not be surprised if 3 million of that is just of the engine itself. sure back in the 70s conventional engines could not do the power output required but now? fuck we can make a v12 have 2000 hp easy, maybe even multi fuel just put a fucking normal engine in it already for half the cost. There are many reasons why the Abrams turbine engine is still quite relevant. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:14:57 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are many reasons why the Abrams turbine engine is still quite relevant. none of which that can really be justified in todays time for its cost. we had all the best shit in the world and we still lost Vietnam and Afghanistan. we have a ton of shit that is so needlessly expensive for its combat effectiveness. i also dont trust the competency of the old military contract industries, hell upstart Space X could build a F35 for 2/3rd the cost if they wanted. we are so fucking lucky to have two oceans and for our competitors in this world to be so grossly incompetent or we would be fucked. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:37:02 PM EDT
[#47]
Another vote for bad ass power pack.
Loved watching third shop rip one out and get another crate open and stuck in and out the door in short order. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:38:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine. That is the best part. I was stationed with a guy who claimed ungoverned that it would go over 80 mph. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:41:19 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: EV Tanks are all fun and games until the lithium-cobalt battery pack takes a hit then explodes more violently than a T-72 taking a SABOT in the ass, I mean gas tanks. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif Seriously people, lithium-ion is no fucking joke. Supercapacitors are a thing. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:41:53 PM EDT
[#50]
Hybrid?
Serious question. The History Channel like 10 years ago before it became the garbage picker channel demonstrated electric APCs that were so stinking quiet, it’s amazing. Noise on the battlefield from 50 tons of squeaking metal is one thing, but that turbine engine is loud! ETA now, if only a good gun company would make the polymer 0.70” Browning action .32 ACP or .380 ACP DOA with actual night sights and configuration that fits a man’s hand….like a PSM-sized. |
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