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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:03:56 PM EDT
https://www.defensenews.com/land/2022/06/28/us-army-unveils-contract-to-build-new-light-tank-for-infantry-forces/
The U.S. Army on Tuesday selected General Dynamics Land Systems to build a light tank meant to improve mobility, protection and direct-fire capabilities for Infantry Brigade Combat Teams. The production deal is a key step forward for Army Futures Command, which has promised faster and more successful modernization programs through a competitive prototyping approach. GDLS will deliver 26 vehicles initially, but the contract allows the Army to buy 70 more over the course of low-rate initial production for a total of $1.14 billion, according to the Army. At least eight of the 12 prototypes used during competitive evaluation will be retrofitted to be fielded to the force, service officials in charge of the competition said. The first production vehicles are expected to be delivered in just under 19 months. The first unit will receive a battalion’s worth of MPF systems — 42 vehicles — by the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025. The Army plans to enter full-rate production in calendar year 2025, according to GDLS. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/next-generation-m1-abrams-tank-teased-by-general-dynamics Promotional materials provide glimpses of a new version of the M1 Abrams main battle tank. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_june_2022_global_security_army_industry/discover_next_generation_american-made_m1_abrams_mbt_main_battle_tank.html Discover Next Generation American-made M1 Abrams MBT Main Battle Tank https://eurasiantimes.com/americas-silent-killer-gdld-releases-cryptic-teaser-of-next-gen-abrams-main-battle-tanks-watch/ America’s ‘Silent Killer’ — GDLD Releases ‘Cryptic Teaser’ Of Next-Gen Abrams Main Battle Tanks ![]() General Dynamics announces next generation of US M1 Abrams MBT Main Battle Tank |
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So they put a suppressor on an Abrams? Or is it an electric Abrams?
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Has the gay ass infinity looking headlights along with enough battery power to keep child slaves in Africa employed at least until they’re rebel soldiers
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I have no idea if this is what they did, but there was a proposal years ago to go with a diesel generator and electric drive train. Saved fuel, weight and maint costs. Gave you more acceleration and range.
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CROWS right above the main gun?
Izzies used to (maybe still do) mount an M2 to the main gun |
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So did they start development on this before the Marines abandoned tanks, or after?
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Yeah, what's wrong with the turbine? The only real weakness I know of is that it consumes a lot of fuel - but being a very multi-fuel capable engine in a time where they were expecting to be retreating with supply lines that would have been getting shorter (and the ability to scrounge fuel from wherever they happened to find it), the turbine made sense. Low coolant requirements and a small size helped too. It's too bad they didn't follow through with the re-engening that got canceled with the Crusader. Same power with a lot less fuel consumption and a seamless drop-in swap. |
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Old Abrams.....new Abrams. Betcha if I rolled up a BDU blouse I'd still be able to take a nap on the thing.
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Quoted: It is an all of the crews will be LBGTQ whatever the fuck they're called View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Dear god don't be an EV. It is an all of the crews will be LBGTQ whatever the fuck they're called The crew (xrew?) will have to enter their pronouns before it starts up and moves. |
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QinetiQ has been working on the electric drive. The army is interested for the Bradley and it’s replacement in particular.
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I'm quite happy with the existing power-pack, thank you. My guess is hybrid. Legacy M1 is quiet AF compared to its diesal ancestors. Hybrid could be a logical step forward. All electric...no thanks.
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Quoted: "silent strike" Well hell, looks like they're doing that. View Quote "Silent strike".... Turbine engine combined with muddy track render them very quiet. Throw in a little morning mist and they are stealth-like for human senses....of course modern thermal, infrared and such still pick them out like full daylight. |
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Who are they advertising to?
Hey taxpayers, I know inflation is bad and we're tapped out with multi-trillion dollar budget deficits that you haven't even begun to pay for which poses a far greater threat to your national security than any adversary this grift machine would ever be used against, but let us fuck you a little more with this sick new ride. Call your congressman today and have him support this sheer waste of money that your children will be co-signing the loan on until the wheels fall off of what's left of your husk country |
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I'm assuming after Ukraine the Army is now installing Active Protection Systems now?
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Quoted: Basically like a freight locomotive? Could be cool. View Quote Electric drive goes back to WW2 with the US T-23 and german Porsche Elefant.. T-23 was Ordnance's proposed Sherman replacement but the Armored Force rejected the electric drive. ![]() |
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EV Tanks are all fun and games until the lithium-cobalt battery pack takes a hit then explodes more violently than a T-72 taking a SABOT in the ass, I mean gas tanks.
![]() Seriously people, lithium-ion is no fucking joke. ![]() |
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Quoted: Hey, now - That turbine shares the same lineage as the mighty Mopar you're driving! ![]() View Quote oh i know. there is a reason they never made the jet car into production. each engine was near $100,000 in todays money. they are extremely expensive. A Abrams is like what? 10 million? would not be surprised if 3 million of that is just of the engine itself. sure back in the 70s conventional engines could not do the power output required but now? fuck we can make a v12 have 2000 hp easy, maybe even multi fuel just put a fucking normal engine in it already for half the cost. |
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i bet you this new tank is going to be 25 million a pop with little notable change in combat capability compared to a current Abrams
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Quoted: oh i know. there is a reason they never made the jet car into production. each engine was near $100,000 in todays money. they are extremely expensive. A Abrams is like what? 10 million? would not be surprised if 3 million of that is just of the engine itself. sure back in the 70s conventional engines could not do the power output required but now? fuck we can make a v12 have 2000 hp easy, maybe even multi fuel just put a fucking normal engine in it already for half the cost. View Quote There are many reasons why the Abrams turbine engine is still quite relevant. |
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Quoted: There are many reasons why the Abrams turbine engine is still quite relevant. View Quote none of which that can really be justified in todays time for its cost. we had all the best shit in the world and we still lost Vietnam and Afghanistan. we have a ton of shit that is so needlessly expensive for its combat effectiveness. i also dont trust the competency of the old military contract industries, hell upstart Space X could build a F35 for 2/3rd the cost if they wanted. we are so fucking lucky to have two oceans and for our competitors in this world to be so grossly incompetent or we would be fucked. |
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Another vote for bad ass power pack.
Loved watching third shop rip one out and get another crate open and stuck in and out the door in short order. |
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Quoted: EV Tanks are all fun and games until the lithium-cobalt battery pack takes a hit then explodes more violently than a T-72 taking a SABOT in the ass, I mean gas tanks. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif Seriously people, lithium-ion is no fucking joke. ![]() View Quote Supercapacitors are a thing. |
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Hybrid?
Serious question. The History Channel like 10 years ago before it became the garbage picker channel demonstrated electric APCs that were so stinking quiet, it’s amazing. Noise on the battlefield from 50 tons of squeaking metal is one thing, but that turbine engine is loud! ETA now, if only a good gun company would make the polymer 0.70” Browning action .32 ACP or .380 ACP DOA with actual night sights and configuration that fits a man’s hand….like a PSM-sized. |
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