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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:42:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EV Tanks are all fun and games until the lithium-cobalt battery pack takes a hit then explodes more violently than a T-72 taking a SABOT in the ass, I mean gas tanks. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif Seriously people, lithium-ion is no fucking joke.  Reactive armor LiPo |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:48:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hybrid? Serious question. The History Channel like 10 years ago before it became the garbage picker channel demonstrated electric APCs that were so stinking quiet, it’s amazing. Noise on the battlefield from 50 tons of squeaking metal is one thing, but that turbine engine is loud! High pitched noises don’t carry well, nor does a whine carry as well as the clanking of a piston engine. I’m curious if this will have the Cummins ACE though. That would be awesome. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:49:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine. That turbine engine is excellent................multi fuel and powerful |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:54:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is the best part. I was stationed with a guy who claimed ungoverned that it would go over 80 mph. I was at ft hood when they got rolled out. That's what we were told. They locked them down fairly quick. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:55:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That turbine engine is excellent................multi fuel and powerful preforms great? oh sure, that it does. but good god, bring your wallet. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:56:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: preforms great? oh sure, that it does. but good god, bring your wallet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That turbine engine is excellent................multi fuel and powerful preforms great? oh sure, that it does. but good god, bring your wallet. I suspect future turbines will be more fuel efficient. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:58:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect future turbines will be more fuel efficient. The Army was developing a turbine that used 1/3 less fuel but it was cut when Crusader was cut. I'd imagine one today would be better and of course the transmission and track can offer savings as well. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:59:47 PM EDT
[#8]
Will it be armored against the white male patriarchy?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:00:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Want.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:06:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Speculation: Turbine electric with a sneaky mode. APS with Laser/Thermal/Magnetic spoofing. Armor that makes better use of dyneema, ceramic, XAlloy goodness that's come about since the stone ages.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:07:46 PM EDT
[#11]
They gave it a Jeep Angry Eyes grill
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:12:11 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: they belong in the air not on the ground. were the only ones that have made them work but at a needless cost. The major drawback is specific consumption but with the addition of the APU the consumption while not actually moving is greatly reduced. Still thirsty but better than it was. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:14:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect future turbines will be more fuel efficient. fuel efficiency increase yes but unit cost and long term maintenance? nope, titanium alloys are not cheap. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:14:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dear god don't be an EV. I heard from top men that climate change is the real enemy. Oh, and wite people. I like the tactical headlights tho 
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:19:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was at ft hood when they got rolled out. That's what we were told. They locked them down fairly quick. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:20:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, what's wrong with the turbine? The only real weakness I know of is that it consumes a lot of fuel - but being a very multi-fuel capable engine in a time where they were expecting to be retreating with supply lines that would have been getting shorter (and the ability to scrounge fuel from wherever they happened to find it), the turbine made sense. Low coolant requirements and a small size helped too. It's too bad they didn't follow through with the re-engening that got canceled with the Crusader. Same power with a lot less fuel consumption and a seamless drop-in swap. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: i really hope they got rid of that stupid turbine engine.  Yeah, what's wrong with the turbine? The only real weakness I know of is that it consumes a lot of fuel - but being a very multi-fuel capable engine in a time where they were expecting to be retreating with supply lines that would have been getting shorter (and the ability to scrounge fuel from wherever they happened to find it), the turbine made sense. Low coolant requirements and a small size helped too. It's too bad they didn't follow through with the re-engening that got canceled with the Crusader. Same power with a lot less fuel consumption and a seamless drop-in swap. A modern multi-fuel diesel would get a lot more power and use a lot less fuel. The turbine made sense given the state of mid '70 diesel engines. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:21:38 PM EDT
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Still waiting for the rail gun version talked about in the 90s in popular science or popular mechanics.
ETA, Popular Science vol 245, Nov 1994, page 31.  https://books.google.com/books?id=r_gZbq_1_i4C&pg=PA31&dq=Railgun&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiIlpPZjsD4AhVooWoFHR7-BaIQ6AF6BAgEEAM#v=onepage&q=Railgun&f=false |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:22:41 PM EDT
[#18]
We can make them and park them in desert with all those other Abrams tanks.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:24:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who are they advertising to? Hey taxpayers, I know inflation is bad and we're tapped out with multi-trillion dollar budget deficits that you haven't even begun to pay for which poses a far greater threat to your national security than any adversary this grift machine would ever be used against, but let us fuck you a little more with this sick new ride. Call your congressman today and have him support this sheer waste of money that your children will be co-signing the loan on until the wheels fall off of what's left of your husk country Well now I’m totally depressed. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:24:26 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Speculation: Turbine electric with a sneaky mode. APS with Laser/Thermal/Magnetic spoofing. Armor that makes better use of dyneema, ceramic, XAlloy goodness that's come about since the stone ages. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:30:00 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A modern multi-fuel diesel would get a lot more power and use a lot less fuel. The turbine made sense given the state of mid '70 diesel engines. Most contemporary MBTs are in the 900 to 1200 horse range. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:31:43 PM EDT
[#22]
In on a potential diesel-electric tank
Das Tank sounds awesome I hope for hilarious Tesla Plaid-ish drag times |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:34:28 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In on a potential diesel-electric tank Das Tank sounds awesome I hope for hilarious Tesla Plaid-ish drag times |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:34:53 PM EDT
[#24]
Watch, itll be little more than electronics and remote control mg's.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:36:30 PM EDT
[#25]
It’s EV, and it comes with interchangeable phallic extensions on the seats in a variety of sizes and colors, a vagina reticle on the main gun, a disco lighting package, and all manuals use gender-neutral pronouns. The main gun can be folded down between the tracks to look like it’s not even there, a design feature the DoD feels is inclusive and gender-affirming for transitioning crew members.
It will effectively meet all DoD objectives except for actual war fighting performance. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:36:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:37:50 PM EDT
[#27]
Can I drive it from Warsaw to Moscow with one tank of fuel ?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:43:22 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A modern multi-fuel diesel would get a lot more power and use a lot less fuel. The turbine made sense given the state of mid '70 diesel engines. More power? Unlikely. More power density? Unlikely. The turbine leads in every category but cost and fuel consumption. Doesn’t have a massive use of energy for cooling. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:44:20 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect future turbines will be more fuel efficient. And cheaper to make when the complex parts can now be 3D sintered. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:44:33 PM EDT
[#30]
If it’s EV, it’s range will be cut in 1/2 in the cold.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:45:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think there is a modern tank with more than 1500 horse. Even given its weight the abrams is one of the more mobile MBTs, because of that power pack. Most contemporary MBTs are in the 900 to 1200 horse range. A couple crack 1600 but once diesel electric gets to being a thing I expect you’ll see them north of 2000. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:46:38 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are fast enough to rip the tracks up. I mean 70 tons doing 60 mph driven with a T handle is a little sketchy but I think the tracks are the limiting factor 267 got them first. We (1st cav) had guys that rotated from Germany and had buddies down there. They were the ones swearing those fuckers would fly. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:46:48 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it’s EV, it’s range will be cut in 1/2 in the cold. No, it’ll use supercapacitors. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:48:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In on a potential diesel-electric tank Das Tank sounds awesome I hope for hilarious Tesla Plaid-ish drag times The figure that I’ve seen was that an electric transmission with a similar power rating as a conventional drivetrain was 20% quicker to 30mph. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:48:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 267 got them first. We (1st cav) had guys that rotated from Germany and had buddies down there. They were the ones swearing those fuckers would fly. 
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:53:22 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: none of which that can really be justified in todays time for its cost. we had all the best shit in the world and we still lost Vietnam and Afghanistan. we have a ton of shit that is so needlessly expensive for its combat effectiveness. i also dont trust the competency of the old military contract industries, hell upstart Space X could build a F35 for 2/3rd the cost if they wanted. we are so fucking lucky to have two oceans and for our competitors in this world to be so grossly incompetent or we would be fucked. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are many reasons why the Abrams turbine engine is still quite relevant. none of which that can really be justified in todays time for its cost. we had all the best shit in the world and we still lost Vietnam and Afghanistan. we have a ton of shit that is so needlessly expensive for its combat effectiveness. i also dont trust the competency of the old military contract industries, hell upstart Space X could build a F35 for 2/3rd the cost if they wanted. we are so fucking lucky to have two oceans and for our competitors in this world to be so grossly incompetent or we would be fucked. Stick with what you know…like shitty Korean cars… |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:55:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Calling it
Diesel electric. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:56:37 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: More power? Unlikely. More power density? Unlikely. The turbine leads in every category but cost and fuel consumption. Doesn’t have a massive use of energy for cooling. If memory serves correct, GDLS has offered a Kraut MTU option for years now and no one wanted it. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:58:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stick with what you know…like shitty Korean cars… What can i say, im tired and angry. My husband, cars, other toys and Iowa are all i have now. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:59:12 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Calling it Diesel electric. makes the most sense. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:59:25 PM EDT
[#41]
Correct.
I’d like to see a transverse mounted turbine. Could free up 150cf under the hull. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:59:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The crew (xrew?) will have to enter their pronouns before it starts up and moves.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 12:09:05 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think there is a modern tank with more than 1500 horse. Even given its weight the abrams is one of the more mobile MBTs, because of that power pack. Most contemporary MBTs are in the 900 to 1200 horse range. I think the solution is clearly 2 Hiroshima hair dryers and an LS from Texas Speed.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 12:09:09 AM EDT
[#44]
Seriously, the powerplant is long overdue for an upgrade.
A tethered observation/targeting drone would be nice as well. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 12:12:57 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CROWS right above the main gun? Izzies used to (maybe still do) mount an M2 to the main gun That's a 30mm on the CROWS, not a M2. Makes sense to have it centered. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 12:14:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2022 12:16:35 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a 30mm on the CROWS, not a M2. Makes sense to have it centered. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: CROWS right above the main gun? Izzies used to (maybe still do) mount an M2 to the main gun That's a 30mm on the CROWS, not a M2. Makes sense to have it centered. It’s an anti-drone system. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 12:25:19 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What can i say, im tired and angry. My husband, cars, other toys and Iowa are all i have now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Stick with what you know…like shitty Korean cars… What can i say, im tired and angry. My husband, cars, other toys and Iowa are all i have now. I like you vintage car posts…not your angry ones! |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 12:33:14 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s an anti-drone system. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: CROWS right above the main gun? Izzies used to (maybe still do) mount an M2 to the main gun That's a 30mm on the CROWS, not a M2. Makes sense to have it centered. It’s an anti-drone system. No shit. The M230 paired with something CROWS like(EOS R-400S MK2?) would have various uses. Shooting down drones would be one of many uses.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 1:09:59 AM EDT
[#50]
Hahahaha its going to be a power wheels tank
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