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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:12:59 AM EST
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Did you know there are people who can look at a misspelled word and based on the context in which it is used, auto-correct it in their mind without losing a beat? Obviously, you're not one of those people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If the staff really scared about this site, they need to get new mods... Obviously, you're not one of those people. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:14:33 AM EST
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:17:51 AM EST
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This. He's good people, and seeing staff suggesting he was a problem isnt a good look for this site. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When you have site staff openly shitting on moderators on the public side using made up BS that was an utter fabrication you have a complete failure of the administration here. Not only does it cause members to distrust staff statements, but furthermore, it is incredibly distasteful to have to watch. Moderators shouldn't have to take shit from anyone because they volunteer their time. It is in the COC I'm sure. For it to come from staff though and be pushed out on the public side - beyond belief. I would never let this happen to one of my mods. You need to fucking clean house around here as it is disgusting. That all the other mods and all of the staff aren't up in arms over this is extremely odd. Even if you wanted him out, the amount of disrespect shown here to a lifetime member, valuable contributor, and well trusted mod by the membership generally needs to be handled. He's good people, and seeing staff suggesting he was a problem isnt a good look for this site. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:18:19 AM EST
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:23:18 AM EST
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:26:22 AM EST
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They have the mentality of 12 year olds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And? What part of the COC does that violate? |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:27:36 AM EST
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I trust the people who run this place to make better decisions running it than those who dont. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When you have site staff openly shitting on moderators on the public side using made up BS that was an utter fabrication you have a complete failure of the administration here. Not only does it cause members to distrust staff statements, but furthermore, it is incredibly distasteful to have to watch. Moderators shouldn't have to take shit from anyone because they volunteer their time. It is in the COC I'm sure. For it to come from staff though and be pushed out on the public side - beyond belief. I would never let this happen to one of my mods. You need to fucking clean house around here as it is disgusting. That all the other mods and all of the staff aren't up in arms over this is extremely odd. Even if you wanted him out, the amount of disrespect shown here to a lifetime member, valuable contributor, and well trusted mod by the membership generally needs to be handled. He's good people, and seeing staff suggesting he was a problem isnt a good look for this site. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:31:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you ever noticed that in every thread that criticized the site, the same few vocal people are drawn in and post a lot: Madcap72, Undefined, blinded, and a few others. The estimate that “everyone thinks the moderation is bad” might be just a TINY bit over-estimated. Firstly, do the 'ol "join date/post count" check on me. You're wrong. Far more here have seen the biased moderation here, and not just as of late. It is however much more obvious now. Some just aren't that vocal about it. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:35:24 AM EST
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The comment "oh well" should NEVER EVER result in anything. If made in a rude way, just let people see the person is an asshole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These are simply two perspectives on the same situation, and both are pretty much correct, as far as they go. And as we all know perfectly well, a police shooting can be ruled a legal shoot, even when many reasonable people can view it is manslaughter at the least. That line about "we have investigated ourselves..." has a solid factual foundation. My recollection, not having known about somebody's arfcom "permanent record," is more in line with Undefined's. The fact that "oh well" can bring completely different responses from staff/mods depending on who makes the comment is the problem. It's a crappy comment to make in a tragic situation, so treat it that way consistently. But that's not where we are. CoC has the flexibility to be employed selectively, and it is. All the staff and mods should own that.TT If made in a rude way, just let people see the person is an asshole. And in a free site where such comments can be freely made, then let it also be fair game to call the asshole an asshole. That's pretty much why Sylvan was banned, he kept calling assholes as such. Assholes NEED to be called assholes. Or else we get the_underscore brigade. 
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:43:07 AM EST
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I leave it to the site owners to say whether such a comment should or should not result in anything, but it should be consistent. That's what the fuss is about: same comment, same offensiveness (despite DKProf's objection), different result. And in a free site where such comments can be freely made, then let it also be fair game to call the asshole an asshole. That's pretty much why Sylvan was banned, he kept calling assholes as such. Assholes NEED to be called assholes. Or else we get the_underscore brigade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These are simply two perspectives on the same situation, and both are pretty much correct, as far as they go. And as we all know perfectly well, a police shooting can be ruled a legal shoot, even when many reasonable people can view it is manslaughter at the least. That line about "we have investigated ourselves..." has a solid factual foundation. My recollection, not having known about somebody's arfcom "permanent record," is more in line with Undefined's. The fact that "oh well" can bring completely different responses from staff/mods depending on who makes the comment is the problem. It's a crappy comment to make in a tragic situation, so treat it that way consistently. But that's not where we are. CoC has the flexibility to be employed selectively, and it is. All the staff and mods should own that.TT If made in a rude way, just let people see the person is an asshole. And in a free site where such comments can be freely made, then let it also be fair game to call the asshole an asshole. That's pretty much why Sylvan was banned, he kept calling assholes as such. Assholes NEED to be called assholes. Or else we get the_underscore brigade. 
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Posted: 10/20/2019 10:57:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I trust the people who run this place to make better decisions running it than those who dont. 
A piece of work you are. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:00:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I trust the people who run this place to make better decisions running it than those who dont. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:17:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would wonder if having “moderation is GD is bad” in the title might bias the sample, and perhaps draw more people who are disgruntled into the thread. How about if the title were “what do you think about the moderation in GD these day?” - I think that would be slightly better and less likely to bias the sample. I would STILL expect that people who think there is something wrong would be more likely to express their opinion ... in customer service there seems to be an adage that you hear about unhappy customers at 10x the rate of happy customers, so I am not sure there even is a way to measure it in an unbiased way. I simply don it know - not trying to pre-qualify any results. Go ahead and start the thread, if you want. My guess-stimate of the results would be 20-25% unhappy, but it’s purely a guess. Bells and whistles should have gone off nearly 1000 votes said they wouldn't renew their membership. Instead heads were placed in asses and "we need another poll". Now 600+ votes say the moderating sucks and all we have gotten is site staff and other mods attacking a former mod because he wasn't a JBT boot licker. (my favorite part is when you called him out in the pit then he replied and you quickly tried to tuck tail and run to IMs because "since this seems to be getting close to discussing mod/Staff forum stuff in public") 
Maybe we need another thread or 6 with an overwhelming poll saying things suck and y'all will wake up. Probably not, but maybe. If this the road y'all are going to go down, at least blame it on Russia. Its more entertaining than this shit show.
edit corrected some spelling then i stopped caring. My point was made and I'm hung over. 
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:20:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I trust the people who run this place to make better decisions running it than those who dont. 
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:22:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And by that logic you trust those governing the U.S. more than the governed.
A piece of work you are. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:23:33 AM EST
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You now have TWO threads saying stuff sucks around here and all site staff seems to be worried about is dogging former mods. Not only is there a painfully obvious disconnect but now its a maturity issue as well. Bells and whistles should have gone off nearly 1000 votes said they wouldn't renew their membership. Instead heads were placed in asses and "we need another poll". Now 600+ votes say the moderating sucks and all we have gotten is site staff and other mods attacking a former mod because he wasn't a JBT boot licker. (my favorite part is when you called him out in the pit then he replied and you quickly tried to tuck tail and run to IMs because "since this seems to be getting close to discussing mod/Staff forum stuff in public")
Maybe we need another thread or 6 with an overwhelming pool saying things suck and y'all will wake up. Probably not, but maybe. If this the road y'all are going to go down, at least blame it on Russia. Its more entertaining than this shit show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I would wonder if having “moderation is GD is bad” in the title might bias the sample, and perhaps draw more people who are disgruntled into the thread. How about if the title were “what do you think about the moderation in GD these day?” - I think that would be slightly better and less likely to bias the sample. I would STILL expect that people who think there is something wrong would be more likely to express their opinion ... in customer service there seems to be an adage that you hear about unhappy customers at 10x the rate of happy customers, so I am not sure there even is a way to measure it in an unbiased way. I simply don it know - not trying to pre-qualify any results. Go ahead and start the thread, if you want. My guess-stimate of the results would be 20-25% unhappy, but it’s purely a guess. Bells and whistles should have gone off nearly 1000 votes said they wouldn't renew their membership. Instead heads were placed in asses and "we need another poll". Now 600+ votes say the moderating sucks and all we have gotten is site staff and other mods attacking a former mod because he wasn't a JBT boot licker. (my favorite part is when you called him out in the pit then he replied and you quickly tried to tuck tail and run to IMs because "since this seems to be getting close to discussing mod/Staff forum stuff in public")
Maybe we need another thread or 6 with an overwhelming pool saying things suck and y'all will wake up. Probably not, but maybe. If this the road y'all are going to go down, at least blame it on Russia. Its more entertaining than this shit show.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:24:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You now have TWO threads saying stuff sucks around here and all site staff seems to be worried about is dogging former mods. Not only is there a painfully obvious disconnect but now its a maturity issue as well. Bells and whistles should have gone off nearly 1000 votes said they wouldn't renew their membership. Instead heads were placed in asses and "we need another poll". Now 600+ votes say the moderating sucks and all we have gotten is site staff and other mods attacking a former mod because he wasn't a JBT boot licker. (my favorite part is when you called him out in the pit then he replied and you quickly tried to tuck tail and run to IMs because "since this seems to be getting close to discussing mod/Staff forum stuff in public")
Maybe we need another thread or 6 with an overwhelming pool saying things suck and y'all will wake up. Probably not, but maybe. If this the road y'all are going to go down, at least blame it on Russia. Its more entertaining than this shit show. Once they break the huddle , the blitz of newspeak will be mind boggling . They e got a couple of placeholder mods and sycophants hanging around , but once the A team shows up it should get highly entertaining |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:34:24 AM EST
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When you have site staff openly shitting on moderators on the public side using made up BS that was an utter fabrication you have a complete failure of the administration here. Not only does it cause members to distrust staff statements, but furthermore, it is incredibly distasteful to have to watch. Moderators shouldn't have to take shit from anyone because they volunteer their time. It is in the COC I'm sure. For it to come from staff though and be pushed out on the public side - beyond belief. I would never let this happen to one of my mods. You need to fucking clean house around here as it is disgusting. That all the other mods and all of the staff aren't up in arms over this is extremely odd. Even if you wanted him out, the amount of disrespect shown here to a lifetime member, valuable contributor, and well trusted mod by the membership generally needs to be handled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: If you want to believe that I and other Staffers are lying to you, feel free. I have no control over your beliefs. I can only tell you what the reality is, and the rest is up to you. ETA: "very next day" .. are you sure about that? lol |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:38:38 AM EST
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He never misses an opportunity to genuflect to an authority figure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: And by that logic you trust those governing the U.S. more than the governed.
A piece of work you are. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:42:10 AM EST
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We should get a Striker approved fund raising campaign for a new set of knee pads for wtf. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A piece of work you are. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:43:22 AM EST
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But when a moderator locks a fun thread that a site staff member is participating in, I have to wonder what is going on. I didn't want to believe that this place is changing, but it is. I'm not mad, just disappointed. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 11:44:54 AM EST
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Quote History"Like sticking ur dink in a blender full of puppy ears."
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:01:14 PM EST
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Lol they kicked krpind out. What a shitshow this place has become.
circling the drain.
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:25:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know there’s an epic shitstorm going on behind the scenes . Once they break the huddle , the blitz of newspeak will be mind boggling . They e got a couple of placeholder mods and sycophants hanging around , but once the A team shows up it should get highly entertaining 
That’s why I’m wasting as many resources for the limited time I have left. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:34:50 PM EST
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I’m afraid that’ll be the end for some of us
That’s why I’m wasting as many resources for the limited time I have left. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You know there’s an epic shitstorm going on behind the scenes . Once they break the huddle , the blitz of newspeak will be mind boggling . They e got a couple of placeholder mods and sycophants hanging around , but once the A team shows up it should get highly entertaining
That’s why I’m wasting as many resources for the limited time I have left. It will be a month or so because re they restart the purge . 
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:40:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are several good reasons that they need to get heavy handed. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:48:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This place is out of control as evidenced by these threads. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:49:30 PM EST
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You are correct but you don't know why. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: This place is out of control as evidenced by these threads. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:50:04 PM EST
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This place is out of control as evidenced by these threads. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There are several good reasons that they need to get heavy handed.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:53:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once they break the huddle , the blitz of newspeak will be mind boggling . |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:54:40 PM EST
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I know this is a long shot but I think "Brownells didn't really buy Arfcom" is a possibility. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/20/2019 12:59:49 PM EST
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I know this is a long shot but I think "Brownells didn't really buy Arfcom" is a possibility. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:02:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And? 
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:08:49 PM EST
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Technically, they didn't. We were purchased by their parent company. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:10:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have something there on your chin |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:10:58 PM EST
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Technically, they didn't. We were purchased by their parent company. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:11:47 PM EST
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And technically correct is the best kind of correct! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:12:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EVERYONE thinks the moderation is bad? You really believe that? @DK-Prof |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:13:22 PM EST
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How long are you going to let WTFBOOMBRB troll these threads ? @DK-Prof Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:13:36 PM EST
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How long are you going to let WTFBOOMBRB troll these threads ? @DK-Prof Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:15:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Until someone snaps at him and gets banned. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:16:51 PM EST
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Next up, "Brownells has nothing to do with this", not understanding that telling the users that there's no one in charge is maybe not the best decision.
I know sometimes the wheels turn slowly when decisions like this have to be made but you guys can't cover this up forever. People are going to figure out that the new owners are in control of the site. Promoting the idea that they bought it and then abandoned it is just not viable in the long term. It's definitely not a good plan for advertisers. |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:17:13 PM EST
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How long are you going to let WTFBOOMBRB troll these threads ? @DK-Prof Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:18:00 PM EST
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:18:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mod in training or a 2nd mod account. Pretty easy to see |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:24:14 PM EST
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In every thread like this he's going into them with his bullshit shtick trying to get people to overstep and receive sanctions,it's pretty damn obvious Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Mod in training or a 2nd mod account. Pretty easy to see Reminds me of a FL guy that i wont mention |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:24:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. I thought it was just me who thought that yesterday but now its quite obvious that what he is doing. Reminds me of a FL guy that i wont mention |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:26:20 PM EST
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meh, I never thought he was a conspirator, I thought it was brain damage.
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:28:55 PM EST
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In every thread like this he's going into them with his bullshit shtick trying to get people to overstep and receive sanctions,it's pretty damn obvious |
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Posted: 10/20/2019 1:29:27 PM EST
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Pretty obvious when some mods are having their period.
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