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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:43:49 AM EDT
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Fuck California
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:45:09 AM EDT
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Well, if the OP doesn't know....
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:45:57 AM EDT
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Fuck California Very constructive input... thanks. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:46:31 AM EDT
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Double fail.
Cheaper than dirt and California . |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:46:36 AM EDT
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Fuck California It's like a dog that barks incessantly. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:47:16 AM EDT
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I would rather do without, than order from CTD, and I'm in MO.
Start cruising the EE and buy the shit you need from there. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:47:46 AM EDT
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Double fail. Cheaper than dirt and California . Could you elaborate? I see a lot of CTD hate, and I'm starting to get it. I'm not "in the know", as it were... |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:48:04 AM EDT
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Maybe it has to do with the fact that just about everything is regulated in some way in California, and the state is replete with AGs who would love to file civil actions across state lines for BS reasons.
I don't blame any gun/ammo/accessories company who won't ship anything to CA, or NY, NJ, IL, MA, etc... |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:49:20 AM EDT
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Double fail. Cheaper than dirt and California . Word! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:49:33 AM EDT
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Your anger is misdirected, it should lie with your lawmakers. CTD just said fuck it we aren't chancing shipping a banned item to California.
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:52:10 AM EDT
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There's lots of companies that just fuck off when it comes to California and it's retardedness. Blame your shithole state, CTD.
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:52:34 AM EDT
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Your anger is misdirected, it should lie with your lawmakers. CTD just said fuck it we aren't chancing shipping a banned item to California. It very much does lie with them, trust me. Regardless, Californians still desire and are able to acquire things from virtually every other company. It just mystifies me why a company would shut out millions of potential customers. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:54:44 AM EDT
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There's lots of companies that just fuck off when it comes to California and it's retardedness. Blame your shithole state, CTD. Not really. So far, they're the only one I've come across that has a blanket policy of denial. The only other things I've really seen is some smaller outfits hesitant to ship ammo here... |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:55:53 AM EDT
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I dont blame them, too much work to wade through the convoluted laws of states like California for the small amount of potential customers.
As a rule, I wont buy FROM California if I can avoid it. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:56:11 AM EDT
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Too bad all freedom loving companies don't do the same to the communist areas.
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:56:15 AM EDT
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It very much does lie with them, trust me. Regardless, Californians still desire and are able to acquire things from virtually every other company. It just mystifies me why a company would shut out millions of potential customers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your anger is misdirected, it should lie with your lawmakers. CTD just said fuck it we aren't chancing shipping a banned item to California. It very much does lie with them, trust me. Regardless, Californians still desire and are able to acquire things from virtually every other company. It just mystifies me why a company would shut out millions of potential customers. Sometimes making a statement is worth more than dollars. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:58:04 AM EDT
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Too bad all freedom loving companies don't do the same to the communist areas. The percentage of right leaning freedom loving 'mericans out here might surprise you... they don't outnumber the goddamn hippies, but it's still pretty high. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:58:23 AM EDT
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CTD has problems but California is a problem.
What company would want to do business in a state where they might get sued for some bullshit random whim? Sorry, but your state sucks. CTD has simply made a business decision. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 8:59:00 AM EDT
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Sometimes making a statement is worth more than dollars. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your anger is misdirected, it should lie with your lawmakers. CTD just said fuck it we aren't chancing shipping a banned item to California. It very much does lie with them, trust me. Regardless, Californians still desire and are able to acquire things from virtually every other company. It just mystifies me why a company would shut out millions of potential customers. Sometimes making a statement is worth more than dollars. I suppose. Since everyone seems to be saying fuck CTD, though... dollars might not be something to snub your nose at. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:00:25 AM EDT
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CTD has problems but California is a problem. What company would want to do business in a state where they might get sued for some bullshit random whim? Sorry, but your state sucks. CTD has simply made a business decision. I know it sucks. Oh, how I know. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:00:26 AM EDT
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That's like saying some prisons are better than others and your prison has a really nice torn rectum repairman.
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The percentage of right leaning freedom loving 'mericans out here might surprise you... they don't outnumber the goddamn hippies, but it's still pretty high. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Too bad all freedom loving companies don't do the same to the communist areas. The percentage of right leaning freedom loving 'mericans out here might surprise you... they don't outnumber the goddamn hippies, but it's still pretty high. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:01:54 AM EDT
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Double fail. Cheaper than dirt and California . +1 |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:02:04 AM EDT
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That's like saying some prisons are better than others and your prison has a really nice torn rectum repairman. Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's like saying some prisons are better than others and your prison has a really nice torn rectum repairman. Quoted:
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Too bad all freedom loving companies don't do the same to the communist areas. The percentage of right leaning freedom loving 'mericans out here might surprise you... they don't outnumber the goddamn hippies, but it's still pretty high. I mean... if you were in prison, would you rather have a really great rectum repairman, or a shakie junkie with a rusty fishhook and some twine? |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:02:34 AM EDT
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Could you elaborate? I see a lot of CTD hate, and I'm starting to get it. I'm not "in the know", as it were... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Double fail. Cheaper than dirt and California . Could you elaborate? I see a lot of CTD hate, and I'm starting to get it. I'm not "in the know", as it were... In the days (and months) after Sandy Hook happened, people were panic-buying any gun-related thing they could get their hands on. Meanwhile, CTD was busy price-gouging the holy living fuck out of all of their customers. They were basically the only ones who had AR mags, ammo, "cool" firearms, etc. in stock on a regular basis and so they set their prices for astronomical, knowing that people would pay whatever they asked because lots of people thought AR's would be banned federally and this was their last chance to get one or to get mags. CTD was charging $600 for a 100rd Beta Mag, $140 for a standard PMag, and $100 for used USGI mags. You could buy a standard, bottom-shelf AR from them for maybe $3k if they had one in stock. It was pretty fucking disgusting, especially considering the blatant irony of their business name. Fuck CTD. Now you've been informed, OP. 
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:03:20 AM EDT
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Op if you're looking for $98 USGI mags I got you covered. I'll give you an arfcom discount and let them go @$75 each. Let me know
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:04:39 AM EDT
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In on one!
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:05:19 AM EDT
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In the days (and months) after Sandy Hook happened, people were panic-buying any gun-related thing they could get their hands on. Meanwhile, CTD was busy price-gouging the holy living fuck out of all of their customers. They were basically the only ones who had AR mags, ammo, "cool" firearms, etc. in stock on a regular basis and so they set their prices for astronomical, knowing that people would pay whatever they asked because lots of people thought AR's would be banned federally and this was their last chance to get one or to get mags. CTD was charging $600 for a 100rd Beta Mag, $140 for a standard PMag, and $100 for used USGI mags. You could buy a standard, bottom-shelf AR from them for maybe $3k if they had one in stock. It was pretty fucking disgusting, especially considering the blatant irony of their business name. Fuck CTD. Now you've been informed, OP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Double fail. Cheaper than dirt and California . Could you elaborate? I see a lot of CTD hate, and I'm starting to get it. I'm not "in the know", as it were... In the days (and months) after Sandy Hook happened, people were panic-buying any gun-related thing they could get their hands on. Meanwhile, CTD was busy price-gouging the holy living fuck out of all of their customers. They were basically the only ones who had AR mags, ammo, "cool" firearms, etc. in stock on a regular basis and so they set their prices for astronomical, knowing that people would pay whatever they asked because lots of people thought AR's would be banned federally and this was their last chance to get one or to get mags. CTD was charging $600 for a 100rd Beta Mag, $140 for a standard PMag, and $100 for used USGI mags. You could buy a standard, bottom-shelf AR from them for maybe $3k if they had one in stock. It was pretty fucking disgusting, especially considering the blatant irony of their business name. Fuck CTD. Now you've been informed, OP. You're forgetting how they cancelled standing orders for in stock items, only to allow purchase of the same item once they RAISED their price, sometimes by 100%. FUCK CTD Forever. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:06:36 AM EDT
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They used to not ship to me either. I found a great way to solve that problem.
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:07:11 AM EDT
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In the days (and months) after Sandy Hook happened, people were panic-buying any gun-related thing they could get their hands on. Meanwhile, CTD was busy price-gouging the holy living fuck out of all of their customers. They were basically the only ones who had AR mags, ammo, "cool" firearms, etc. in stock on a regular basis and so they set their prices for astronomical, knowing that people would pay whatever they asked because lots of people thought AR's would be banned federally and this was their last chance to get one or to get mags. CTD was charging $600 for a 100rd Beta Mag, $140 for a standard PMag, and $100 for used USGI mags. You could buy a standard, bottom-shelf AR from them for maybe $3k if they had one in stock. It was pretty fucking disgusting, especially considering the blatant irony of their business name. Fuck CTD. Now you've been informed, OP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Double fail. Cheaper than dirt and California . Could you elaborate? I see a lot of CTD hate, and I'm starting to get it. I'm not "in the know", as it were... In the days (and months) after Sandy Hook happened, people were panic-buying any gun-related thing they could get their hands on. Meanwhile, CTD was busy price-gouging the holy living fuck out of all of their customers. They were basically the only ones who had AR mags, ammo, "cool" firearms, etc. in stock on a regular basis and so they set their prices for astronomical, knowing that people would pay whatever they asked because lots of people thought AR's would be banned federally and this was their last chance to get one or to get mags. CTD was charging $600 for a 100rd Beta Mag, $140 for a standard PMag, and $100 for used USGI mags. You could buy a standard, bottom-shelf AR from them for maybe $3k if they had one in stock. It was pretty fucking disgusting, especially considering the blatant irony of their business name. Fuck CTD. Now you've been informed, OP. Thank you for the insight. I was in Afghanistan when that went down, so I missed out on the price gouging I suppose. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:07:26 AM EDT
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CTD can choke on a bag of dicks.
California still sucks, though. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:08:52 AM EDT
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If CTD was $5 less than Brownells on an item I would still buy it from Brownells.
Oh, did I mention......... FUCK CTD! |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:08:55 AM EDT
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Do you suppose anyone took them up on their $140 PMAG steals?
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:09:48 AM EDT
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CTD can choke on a bag of dicks. California still sucks, though. There goes that dog again. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:10:32 AM EDT
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Thank you for the insight. I was in Afghanistan when that went down, so I missed out on the price gouging I suppose. CTD has done it many times. Every time there's a publicized shooting or any kind of potential panic. I bought 1000rds of in stock 5.56 the day of Sandy Hook, before I even knew about the shooting. Got my order cancelled the next day, said because it was indefinitely out of stock. Showed back up in stock on the site 2 hours later at over double the price. Buncha panic-mongering assholes. 
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:10:33 AM EDT
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This is a blessing in disguise. CTD is a horrible company. Please stop doing business with them.
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:10:51 AM EDT
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Hahaa. Dunno why you can't have nice things over there, but I am sure someone out there will sell you a shiny death weapon part.
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I mean... if you were in prison, would you rather have a really great rectum repairman, or a shakie junkie with a rusty fishhook and some twine? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's like saying some prisons are better than others and your prison has a really nice torn rectum repairman. Quoted:
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Too bad all freedom loving companies don't do the same to the communist areas. The percentage of right leaning freedom loving 'mericans out here might surprise you... they don't outnumber the goddamn hippies, but it's still pretty high. I mean... if you were in prison, would you rather have a really great rectum repairman, or a shakie junkie with a rusty fishhook and some twine? |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:11:13 AM EDT
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There goes that dog again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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CTD can choke on a bag of dicks. California still sucks, though. There goes that dog again. I do giggle when people get all up in arms about laws that don't affect them lol. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:12:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could you elaborate? I see a lot of CTD hate, and I'm starting to get it. I'm not "in the know", as it were... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Double fail. Cheaper than dirt and California . Could you elaborate? I see a lot of CTD hate, and I'm starting to get it. I'm not "in the know", as it were... Comes from CTD "price gouging" during times of shortage, usually attached to pending legislation or a Sandy Hook type of event.    As well as a few other things that have pissed people off....  |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:12:49 AM EDT
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This is a blessing in disguise. CTD is a horrible company. Please stop doing business with them. Obviously, I have involuntarily done zero business with them. In light of my newfound knowledge, I won't even attempt it in the future. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:13:06 AM EDT
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I don't blame them for not risking frivolous lawsuits to ship to commiefornia.
Last time I shipped something there I made 3 calls to the CA DOJ and received 3 different answers. I left a fucked up state (NJ) and you can too (unless it's your duty station) |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:14:05 AM EDT
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Comes from CTD "price gouging" during times of shortage, usually attached to pending legislation or a Sandy Hook type of event. http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/gougemasters.jpg http://www.gunsandammo.info/wp-content/uploads/prices-ctd.jpg http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Cheaper-than-Dirt-4.jpg As well as a few other things that have pissed people off.... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LmiYmyjbGV4/UW7dqIEX_WI/AAAAAAAAADc/cLn_1T42weM/s1600/SmithMeme_CheaperThanDirt.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Double fail. Cheaper than dirt and California . Could you elaborate? I see a lot of CTD hate, and I'm starting to get it. I'm not "in the know", as it were... Comes from CTD "price gouging" during times of shortage, usually attached to pending legislation or a Sandy Hook type of event. http://www.gunssavelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/gougemasters.jpg http://www.gunsandammo.info/wp-content/uploads/prices-ctd.jpg http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Cheaper-than-Dirt-4.jpg As well as a few other things that have pissed people off.... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LmiYmyjbGV4/UW7dqIEX_WI/AAAAAAAAADc/cLn_1T42weM/s1600/SmithMeme_CheaperThanDirt.jpg Holy shit.  . It's a whole new ballgame once you actually see it.
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:14:09 AM EDT
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Find another vendor. They are overprice during normal times and then when panic starts their supply goes down and their prices inversely proportionally go up and that pisses everyone off here. They all get butthurt because CTD follows the simple rules of economics. Long story short you will not get a good answer here.
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There's lots of companies that just fuck off when it comes to California and it's retardedness. Blame your shithole state, CTD. Not really. So far, they're the only one I've come across that has a blanket policy of denial. The only other things I've really seen is some smaller outfits hesitant to ship ammo here... I'm pretty sure Barret won't ship anything to California. I.E. when the LA SWAT sent their rifle in for repair they refused to send it back or sell anything else to the state. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:15:03 AM EDT
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I do giggle when people get all up in arms about laws that don't affect them lol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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CTD can choke on a bag of dicks. California still sucks, though. There goes that dog again. I do giggle when people get all up in arms about laws that don't affect them lol. I'm not up in arms over CA laws, I just think that if the whole southwest chunk of CA floated off into the ocean and formed it's own nation, the rest of CA, and the country, would be better off... |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:15:07 AM EDT
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Do you suppose anyone took them up on their $140 PMAG steals? Yes, probably thousands of orders. Thats why they can afford not to ship to California and Connecticut too-where you can't buy an AR at all unless you are an exempted class citizen or pay 10x the value for a preban. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:16:08 AM EDT
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Holy shit. . It's a whole new ballgame once you actually see it.-52% savings, can't beat that! 
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:16:16 AM EDT
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I don't blame them for not risking frivolous lawsuits to ship to commiefornia. Last time I shipped something there I made 3 calls to the CA DOJ and received 3 different answers. I left a fucked up state (NJ) and you can too (unless it's your duty station) I know it's irrelevant, but this is where my my son lives with his mom. I left NC to come here and be a parent, so I can't leave in good conscience until he's old enough to hate me. In the meantime, I do's what I can's to have my fun within the confines of the dumbass law. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:16:39 AM EDT
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Do you suppose anyone took them up on their $140 PMAG steals? Lots and lots of people did. I even know some of them... Poor suckers. The only thing I paid them after "the panic" was my two cents on what I thought of their business practices. 
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:17:32 AM EDT
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Find another vendor. They are overprice during normal times and then when panic starts their supply goes down and their prices inversely proportionally go up and that pisses everyone off here. They all get butthurt because CTD follows the simple rules of economics. Long story short you will not get a good answer here. If that's all they did, I wouldn't be butthurt. Cancelling open orders so they can double the price and re-list it is what got me pissed off. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:18:39 AM EDT
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-266% Savings!
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:18:41 AM EDT
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If that's all they did, I wouldn't be butthurt. Cancelling open orders so they can double the price and re-list it is what got me pissed off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Find another vendor. They are overprice during normal times and then when panic starts their supply goes down and their prices inversely proportionally go up and that pisses everyone off here. They all get butthurt because CTD follows the simple rules of economics. Long story short you will not get a good answer here. If that's all they did, I wouldn't be butthurt. Cancelling open orders so they can double the price and re-list it is what got me pissed off. I can definitely understand that. Retroactively raising prices is some shady, snake in the grass bullshit. |
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