User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:31:10 PM EDT
[#1]
I think you should go find a smaj and ask him that exact question.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:31:20 PM EDT
[#2]
How do you know what kind of god damn day it is?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:32:38 PM EDT
[#3]
He’s there to check all the dumb shit the officers come up with. You see how much gets through, imagine what it would be like without them.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:38:36 PM EDT
[#4]
They make sure nobody enters the DFAC without eye pro, a clean shave or God forbid tries to enter wearing a black fleece as an outer garment.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:40:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Somebody needs to enforce the "grooming standards".
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:40:21 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
He's there to check all the dumb shit the officers come up with. You see how much gets through, imagine what it would be like without them. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:40:33 PM EDT
[#7]
Yell
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:41:57 PM EDT
[#8]
What are you? A fucking weatherman?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:42:13 PM EDT
[#9]
To write emails at 3rd grade level. To speak like a child who never finished middle school.
To harass young soldiers because hes a combatives instructor and "is looking for a challenge". To attend a seminar from a world recognized authority on teamwork, crew management, human relations, etc.....and then suggest hair cuts and shiny boots are the key to success during the open forum phase. To scream at a pilot with glasses on his head in the TOC because he ran in to get some GRGs while his helo idles outside. And my favorite, to lay on a DFAC table eyes tightly shut, jaw and fists clenched while the LTC slaps him to wake up because a mortar landed about 100 meters away. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:42:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Get off muh grass.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:42:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Hes there to yell at non-rates and hold the COs purse.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:42:54 PM EDT
[#12]
To try and commandeer vehicles in a war zone when the driver doesn't have a seat belt on. Oh wait, that's the Command Sgt. Major, nvm.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:42:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Who else is going to bust the E7s and E9s for fucking the female E1s-E3s?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:43:14 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I served with one that was a decent solider. The rest were deranged myopic A holes with no clear job other than making enlisted miserable. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:44:03 PM EDT
[#15]
Pretty sure the PT belt bullshit was Smaj inspired
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:44:48 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You answered your own question. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:45:19 PM EDT
[#17]
POOLEECE THAT MOOOSTASH
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:45:38 PM EDT
[#18]
In theory, they're in charge of order and discipline of the army (small a, as in the size of unit).
That is, they're the one with the most experience, and able to instruct all the other sergeants on how to maintain the correct marching structure, spacing, and so on as it comes to rank and file movement - actually a far more difficult task under fire than it seems at first glance. After about 1880, though? No idea. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:53:32 PM EDT
[#19]
Your rang?
18Z50....doing the paperwork you so dread |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:55:13 PM EDT
[#20]
They are the enlisted version of the Joint Chiefs. Worthless.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 4:59:16 PM EDT
[#21]
To provide a job for the most functionally illiterate and mentally retarded Marines?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:00:52 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
He’s there to check all the dumb shit the officers come up with. You see how much gets through, imagine what it would be like without them. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:01:47 PM EDT
[#23]
To patrol the PX area, and make sure troops just out of the field don't have the strings from their Bonnie hats hanging out.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:03:25 PM EDT
[#24]
Police call master
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:04:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Keep Joe off his grass.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:05:58 PM EDT
[#26]
One of mine was maybe 5' tall standing on his toes. Was literally about the size of your average 11 year old.
He would walk around with his chest thrown out and arms out to his side like he was ripped. He wasn't. He spoke, of course, in a way too deep, loud and dramatized voice. He would also buy new boots and immediately send them out to be re-soled with the highest sole possible. He looked like a 6th grade KISS fan playing Army in an overstarched uniform. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:06:01 PM EDT
[#27]
I had the same thought, OP, except it was about officers..
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:06:24 PM EDT
[#28]
...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:06:54 PM EDT
[#29]
To keep good order and discipline by yelling at O4s to stop wearing morale patches.
That's my experience at least. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:07:13 PM EDT
[#30]
Liaison between the enlisted and the commanding officer.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:07:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The CSM is too busy yelling at 1SG about how his troops are all fucked up. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:08:31 PM EDT
[#32]
...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:08:49 PM EDT
[#33]
To keep some shitheaded LT or CPT from intefering with the day to day operations of the unit. To tell the BN CSM where to put his bright ideas.
In the 18 series unit it is a SGM that runs the company not a 1SG like the rest of leg land and the mighty morphin rangers 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:16:11 PM EDT
[#34]
To demand that you call "at ease" when they walk in the room, despite all of the officers that occupy said office.
Or to take shopping trips to sites where he has soldiers, and never speak to them. Or fly his wife into CENTCOM, berate the gate guards until they get back on a HIGHLY secured installation, then hide her in his CHU. Or talk about how awesome he is to everyone, then demand other NCOs be humble. Convince the CO to deny CABs and EOT awards for his soldiers because, "being in combat isn't that dangerous." Fuck you CSM. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:19:09 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
To keep good order and discipline by yelling at O4s to stop wearing moral patches. That's my experience at least. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:20:15 PM EDT
[#36]
When my dad made Master Chief he said his job was basically to drink coffee all day, induce terror just by walking into a compartment, and come up with creative non-NJP punishments.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:20:30 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
I served with one that was a decent solider. The rest were deranged myopic A holes with no clear job other than making enlisted miserable. Many of the old get off the grass type CSMs have retired and are retiring soon. I have several CSM buddies, none of them are assholes. If senior Enlisted members are enforcing the standard the CSM won't have to waste his time checking on barracks and soldier discipline etc. A good CSM is giving sound advice to his Commander and coaching/mentoring his Senior NCOs. If he has to spend all his time babysitting discipline issues/shitty NCOs then yea he may become a asshole. Belive it or not, individual discipline within the unit plays heavily in his life, if NCOs are enforcing standards and setting the example life will be good. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:21:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
well, thats just plain evil. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
To keep good order and discipline by yelling at O4s to stop wearing moral patches. That's my experience at least.
Good catch |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:25:20 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He’s there to check all the dumb shit the officers come up with. You see how much gets through, imagine what it would be like without them. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:26:51 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
To demand that you call "at ease" when they walk in the room, despite all of the officers that occupy said office. Or to take shopping trips to sites where he has soldiers, and never speak to them. Or fly his wife into CENTCOM, berate the gate guards until they get back on a HIGHLY secured installation, then hide her in his CHU. Or talk about how awesome he is to everyone, then demand other NCOs be humble. Convince the CO to deny CABs and EOT awards for his soldiers because, "being in combat isn't that dangerous." Fuck you CSM. Hell we gave some E6s Bronze Stars as EOT awards. My question was said CSM tabbed and had a CIB? Just curious. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:29:45 PM EDT
[#41]
Otherwise you would stand there gawking like you had never seen the hand of God before....
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:29:52 PM EDT
[#42]
To make sure rocks get painted, grass doesn't get walked on, reflective belts get worn and unneeded standards are adhered to.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:29:52 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
To write emails at 3rd grade level. To speak like a child who never finished middle school. To harass young soldiers because hes a combatives instructor and "is looking for a challenge". To attend a seminar from a world recognized authority on teamwork, crew management, human relations, etc.....and then suggest hair cuts and shiny boots are the key to success during the open forum phase. To scream at a pilot with glasses on his head in the TOC because he ran in to get some GRGs while his helo idles outside. And my favorite, to lay on a DFAC table eyes tightly shut, jaw and fists clenched while the LTC slaps him to wake up because a mortar landed about 100 meters away. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:32:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Of the five I served with, two were practically nonentities, one I liked, one I hated, and one I'd walk through fire for.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:34:45 PM EDT
[#45]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:37:18 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
How do you know what kind of god damn day it is? |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:37:53 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote History
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:38:57 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
He is the Senior Enlisted advisor to BN Commanders and above. Many of the old get off the grass type CSMs have retired and are retiring soon. I have several CSM buddies, none of them are assholes. If senior Enlisted members are enforcing the standard the CSM won't have to waste his time checking on barracks and soldier discipline etc. A good CSM is giving sound advice to his Commander and coaching/mentoring his Senior NCOs. If he has to spend all his time babysitting discipline issues/shitty NCOs then yea he may become a asshole. Belive it or not, individual discipline within the unit plays heavily in his life, if NCOs are enforcing standards and setting the example life will be good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I served with one that was a decent solider. The rest were deranged myopic A holes with no clear job other than making enlisted miserable. Many of the old get off the grass type CSMs have retired and are retiring soon. I have several CSM buddies, none of them are assholes. If senior Enlisted members are enforcing the standard the CSM won't have to waste his time checking on barracks and soldier discipline etc. A good CSM is giving sound advice to his Commander and coaching/mentoring his Senior NCOs. If he has to spend all his time babysitting discipline issues/shitty NCOs then yea he may become a asshole. Belive it or not, individual discipline within the unit plays heavily in his life, if NCOs are enforcing standards and setting the example life will be good. The best BN SGM I ever had was doing his leadership stint outside of the Unit after having been there for a while. His brother was 75th Ranger Regimental SGM at the time as well. Guamanian guys. He was the hardest-charging, most upbeat, positive mental attitude SGM I've ever seen, and made it is his mission in life to meet and mingle with everyone in the Battalion, instilling a sense of always chasing excellence. He had a flat range built right next to BN HQ so anyone that wanted to could go shoot CQM, zero, etc. Red Dog Range, named after our little BN mascot dog who was run over by some 88Ms from Camp Casey. I never had another SGM like him though. The rest of them were either riding their time out until retirement, while occasionally searching for cigarette butts in the grass. Most of them were some of the most incompetent NCOs I ever had the displeasure of serving under in my NCO support channel. Instead of being proactively seeking opportunities to coach, mentor, and develop, they were reactive to problems and let those problems drive their leadership posture to the entire Battalion. Some of them were downright criminals who had found a safe space in the Army to hang out in, still managing to get multiple DUIs and loss of post driving privileges, but because of some racist policies, they were immune from the consequences any of the rest of us were subjected to. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:39:42 PM EDT
[#49]
The only time we ever saw our CSM at Ft Hood was when there was an E5 or E6 board. Other than that...hell, I dunno. I think I may have seen him once in the field, though.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/2/2019 5:40:01 PM EDT
[#50]
In my day it was a job, not a rank.
Our Regimental Sergeant Major was a real prick, and I was terrified of him. I stayed up all night once because I had CQ of a building where I had to pick up the keys from Regimental HQ in the morning and unlock the building. The previous time I had that duty they told me the wrong day, so they hunted me down to ask me why the fuck I hadn't unlocked the building that morning. They were a bit nonplussed when I explained. With a record like that, I didn't want it to get fucked up again. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
Attached File