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Posted: 10/8/2011 3:57:16 AM EST
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He never did nothing for me. Just another Joe in the grand scheme of things.
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Posted: 10/8/2011 4:01:54 AM EST
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He got his billions. Not any more, he doesn't. He was a very successful businessman. Good for him. I hope he made the right decision about what really matters. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 4:12:05 AM EST
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He never did nothing for me. Just another Joe in the grand scheme of things. He had a greater impact than you will admit - his products forced the competition to up their game in so many ways. He forced them to produce new products that they never thought of before. You may not own a Apple or Mac product but without his creative spirit you would still be beating your head against the wall pissing around with MSDOS and turned into a Microsoft drone. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 4:17:23 AM EST
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I don't give a fuck.
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Posted: 10/8/2011 4:36:51 AM EST
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Edison was a self centered prick and had no scruples, however he changed the world for the better with his inventions. Jobs may have been an asshole but he changed the world just the same with his inventions and ideas. Who the "F" cares what his personality was like.
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:21:25 AM EST
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I think this article sums up most of the arfkom sentiment on iJobs and his tyrannical business behaviour. Who knows, maybe someone from the future came back to terminate him ala John Connor. Why Richard M Stallman Is Right About Steve Jobs "Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died. As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing. Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective." Analogy fail. Who made people buy the stuff? No one. They chose. No one here knows who Stallman is, that much is pretty certain. Yeah, jail is being able to listen to the music anywhere, 24/7 and freedom is being able to take pot shots at a dead man while most people have that ounce of decency to at least note a remarkable life cut short. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:23:19 AM EST
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I think this article sums up most of the arfkom sentiment on iJobs and his tyrannical business behaviour. Who knows, maybe someone from the future came back to terminate him ala John Connor. Why Richard M Stallman Is Right About Steve Jobs "Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died. As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing. Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective." Analogy fail. Who made people buy the stuff? No one. They chose. No one here knows who Stallman is, that much is pretty certain. Yeah, jail is being able to listen to the music anywhere, 24/7 and freedom is being able to take pot shots at a dead man while most people have that ounce of decency to at least note a remarkable life cut short. Actually anybody who's paid any attention to the open source movement over the last 20 years knows who Stallman is. He's kind of famous, even if not everybody agrees with him on everything –– he pretty much created the concept of open source software. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:32:06 AM EST
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Quoted: I think this article sums up most of the arfkom sentiment on iJobs and his tyrannical business behaviour. Who knows, maybe someone from the future came back to terminate him ala John Connor. Why Richard M Stallman Is Right About Steve Jobs "Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died. As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing. Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective." Richard Stallman is what everyone on Arfcom thinks that Steve Jobs was - a crazy old hippie. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:33:01 AM EST
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I think this article sums up most of the arfkom sentiment on iJobs and his tyrannical business behaviour. Who knows, maybe someone from the future came back to terminate him ala John Connor. Why Richard M Stallman Is Right About Steve Jobs "Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died. As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing. Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective." Analogy fail. Who made people buy the stuff? No one. They chose. No one here knows who Stallman is, that much is pretty certain. Yeah, jail is being able to listen to the music anywhere, 24/7 and freedom is being able to take pot shots at a dead man while most people have that ounce of decency to at least note a remarkable life cut short. Actually anybody who's paid any attention to the open source movement over the last 20 years knows who Stallman is. He's kind of famous, even if not everybody agrees with him on everything –– he pretty much created the concept of open source software. http://stallman.org/#lifelongactivist Seems to be a Progressive with lots of contempt for Conservatives. He may be famous in computer circles but on a gun board I'd imagine he'd tickle the meter only slightly. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:33:58 AM EST
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I think this article sums up most of the arfkom sentiment on iJobs and his tyrannical business behaviour. Who knows, maybe someone from the future came back to terminate him ala John Connor. Why Richard M Stallman Is Right About Steve Jobs "Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died. As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing. Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective." Richard Stallman is what everyone on Arfcom thinks that Steve Jobs was - a crazy old hippie. I wouldn't say that, he's very dogmatic and knows what he believes in, even if he is kind of a communist. Crazy? I don't think so, not for a minute. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:34:36 AM EST
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I think this article sums up most of the arfkom sentiment on iJobs and his tyrannical business behaviour. Who knows, maybe someone from the future came back to terminate him ala John Connor. Why Richard M Stallman Is Right About Steve Jobs "Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died. As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing. Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective." Analogy fail. Who made people buy the stuff? No one. They chose. No one here knows who Stallman is, that much is pretty certain. Yeah, jail is being able to listen to the music anywhere, 24/7 and freedom is being able to take pot shots at a dead man while most people have that ounce of decency to at least note a remarkable life cut short. anybody who's paid any attention to the open source movement over the last 20 years knows who Stallman is. He's kind of famous, even if not everybody agrees with him on everything –– he pretty much created the concept of open source software. http://stallman.org/#lifelongactivist Seems to be a Progressive with lots of contempt for Conservatives. He may be famous in computer circles but on a gun board I'd imagine he'd tickle the meter only slightly. As I said in red above... |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:42:15 AM EST
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didn't know him personally but he contributed quite a bit and should be recognized for that He was a great businessman and drove his employees to the point where they were afraid to "catch an elevator" with him for fear of his epic firings for disagreeing with him. He denied paternity for years to his first daughter and was well known for anti-philanthropy contributions. Try reading the article the article before calling me cold. He was a great businessman. That is not a historically notable achievement. The man was a true innovator, not to be confused with inventor. His work changed the lives of billions of humans. Was he a prick? It sounds like he was. Lots of people are nice; you will never know their names. I don’t have the ability to judge his heart. Do you? I a thinking that with a world population of 6 billion people, with at least 2 billion in china and india alone, he didn't manage to change the life of half of the rest. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:48:00 AM EST
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Mozilla wont release a browser for the ipad because of Apple's gnarly, cutthroat and blatant anti open source policies. Jobs fucked a lot of early innovators responsible for Apple's success out of stocks and a lot of money. Everything I know about Jobs points to him being a major asshole, but yeah he got shit done. So did Hitler. I'm not saying he equates to Hitler, but I am saying that the fact that he stone-heartedly made a success out of something does not make him a hero. It's funny that so serious a capitalist was such a hero to the liberal left.
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:52:06 AM EST
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A lot of people seem to think Jobs', well, job, was to be a nice guy and make open source software.
Nuh uh. His job was to bring value to shareholders. Not to coddle someone else's vision of what a computer should be, not to be nice to you, not to sell you what you want. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 5:57:24 AM EST
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What? You're pisse that he did not rape and pillage the company like most CEOs do? What other CEO accomplished what he did? He could've clamied a billion-dollar salary, by the performance standards of most CEOs, but he didn't. Ther is something noble about that. Are you serious? It's a tax strategy that he used, nothing innovative and certainly not noble according to Liberals. Again, this is what makes me laugh; the Wall Street protesters are holding this guy up as a hero, and he is the poster child of what Obama champions: "Paying your fair share"??? Please, I'd definitely use every tax vehicle I could, as this guy did, yet I'd be called an evil greedy Capitalist 
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Posted: 10/8/2011 6:00:17 AM EST
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Jobs was born in San Francisco
'nuff said for most folks. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 6:12:08 AM EST
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He was a fucking douchebag, and the world is a better place with him dead.
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Posted: 10/8/2011 6:46:36 AM EST
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Quoted: I'm not saying he equates to Hitler Somebody in a thread the other day was explaining to everyone how Steve Jobs is the same as Osama Bin Laden, so hey, go ahead we don't mind. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 6:55:02 AM EST
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I had worked with Next back then and had the opportunity to meet Steve Jobs on some of the meetings. Steve is more of a theory X manager. Different from Dave Packard who is more of a theory Y manager. However, I would bet that Steve made more millionaire employees than Dave did.
I will leave it at that. RIP, Steve Jobs. I am hoping your legacy in Apple will last longer than Dave Packard's in HP. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 7:29:22 AM EST
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More to the point
"The internet allowed people around the world to express themselves more freely and more easily. With the App Store, Apple reversed that progress. The iPhone and iPad constitute the most popular platform for handheld computerizing in America, key venues for media and software. But to put anything on the devices, you need Apple's permission. And the company wields its power aggressively." No one seems to remember the early Apple pulling this same stunt on software and peripherals from their computers. Apple nearly went out of business several times because the only software available was theirs. I could chose from dozens of products for a PC, but only the official Apple product was allowed on the Mac. Anyone could create and sell software for DOS/Windows. Many companies are around today who got their start building hardware to enhance a PC, and competition made for better products. Not so with Apple. But I'm a 1911 guy, so it stands to reason that I don't like Apple. |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 7:31:04 AM EST
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You "change the world" people are higher then a goddamn kite.
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Posted: 10/8/2011 8:12:24 AM EST
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and, B. Franklin used his slaves as his own personal harem.
and Einstein f***ed his cousin, then abandoned their inbred child.... and... |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 8:32:41 AM EST
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Edison was a self centered prick and had no scruples, however he changed the world for the better with his inventions. Jobs may have been an asshole but he changed the world just the same with his inventions and ideas. Who the "F" cares what his personality was like. THIS |
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Posted: 10/8/2011 3:46:33 PM EST
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didn't know him personally but he contributed quite a bit and should be recognized for that He was a great businessman and drove his employees to the point where they were afraid to "catch an elevator" with him for fear of his epic firings for disagreeing with him. He denied paternity for years to his first daughter and was well known for anti-philanthropy contributions. Try reading the article the article before calling me cold. He also committed small thefts and frauds against many others, including Steve Wozniak. I never met anyone in the tech world who liked him as a person. He was an asshole. Did he make a lot of people a lot of money with Apple? Sure. Was he an asshole? You bet. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:46:25 AM EST
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He was a fucking douchebag, and the world is a better place with him dead. Classy... I am willing to bet that you are mad because when you die, it will not even make a blip on the local homemade cable outlet show.... As for all you 'enlightened' folks who say he didn't do shit to affect their lives, the simple fact that you are whining about him shows he had an impact on your life. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 2:47:30 PM EST
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Quoted: and, B. Franklin used his slaves as his own personal harem.  |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 2:51:52 PM EST
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He was a fucking douchebag, and the world is a better place with him dead. Classy... I am willing to bet that you are mad because when you die, it will not even make a blip on the local homemade cable outlet show.... As for all you 'enlightened' folks who say he didn't do shit to affect their lives, the simple fact that you are whining about him shows he had an impact on your life. You've got a poster with a little shrine to him in your room, dontcha? 
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Posted: 10/9/2011 2:59:21 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm not saying he equates to Hitler Somebody in a thread the other day was explaining to everyone how Steve Jobs is the same as Osama Bin Laden, so hey, go ahead we don't mind. Somebody in this thread is obfuscating what was said. This is the gist what was said: Bin Laden - gave money and aid to groups trying to destroy the USA as we know it. Steve Jobs - gave money and aid to groups trying to destroy the USA as we know it. You evidently have a hard time grasping the reality that liberals and Islamic extremists vote the same way. But hey, don't let me stop you from participating in this Jobs = Great American orgyfest ....... |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 3:41:26 PM EST
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and, B. Franklin used his slaves as his own personal harem. The REAL evidence suggests otherwise. But feel free to disregard it to further your political agenda, just like the left-wingers who promulgated that myth did. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 3:57:54 PM EST
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I still don't see it. To me all the guy did was market a bunch of stuff that was already made to a bunch of "Metro" people. Personal computer, not new. MP3 player, not new. Tablets, not new. He didn't "revolutionize" anything but who's cooler with the what brand you hold.
Jobs defined "cool" in the eyes of a bunch of people who ran their lives over Guess Jeans vs Levi, Gates is actually putting the world to work with Windows 7, Server 2008, SQL 2008, IIS, Office 2010 and what ever MS product you guys use that don't appreciate. This sums it up.  |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:19:38 PM EST
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Once again, Jobs was a faggot douche, and the world is now a better place with him dead.
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:21:49 PM EST
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Once again, Jobs was a faggot douche, and the world is now a better place with him dead. That's a pretty fucked up thing to say. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:22:46 PM EST
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Uh... he was a Liberal.
But a bad mother fucking businessman. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:24:42 PM EST
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Once again, Jobs was a faggot douche, and the world is now a better place with him dead. That's a pretty fucked up thing to say. LOL, hardly. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:43:21 PM EST
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:46:40 PM EST
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A "Mac" book that costs $160.95? lol, I rest my case. ETA, but if you really want to be cool... |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:48:10 PM EST
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A "Mac" book that costs $160.95? lol, I rest my case. ETA, but if you really want to be cool... It's not a Mac book. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:48:20 PM EST
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If you want an apple-fanboy perspective you can read "The Perfect Thing".
It's a bit over the top as far as Jobs-fellating goes, but still pretty informative. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 4:50:56 PM EST
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Quoted: A "Mac" book that costs $160.95? lol, I rest my case. ETA, but if you really want to be cool... It's free at the library. I think I paid about ten bucks for it. A used paperback should be a couple of bucks. It spends a lot more time on the Altair than the Mac, btw. It is not a book about Apple. It's a book about the creators of the personal computer. Apple obviously plays a part. |
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Posted: 10/13/2011 11:11:24 AM EST
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I find it ironic that he died of PC
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Posted: 10/13/2011 11:24:05 AM EST
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You "change the world" people are higher then a goddamn kite. Agreed. He made a hugely successful product line, but i dont get the cock sucking that goes on. Its not like he invented a high speed smart phone while we were all communicating with cans and string. The iphone may have been a revolutionary smart phone, but it was hardly a revolution for mankind. |
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Posted: 10/13/2011 11:26:37 AM EST
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You don't get to the top by being Mr. Nice Guy.
All the second-hand accounts I've heard from people who worked in Silicon Valley in the '80s & '90s (my Dad, for example) indicate that he wasn't a very friendly fellow. |
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Posted: 10/13/2011 11:28:10 AM EST
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You "change the world" people are higher then a goddamn kite. Agreed. He made a hugely successful product line, but i dont get the cock sucking that goes on. Its not like he invented a high speed smart phone while we were all communicating with cans and string. The iphone may have been a revolutionary smart phone, but it was hardly a revolution for mankind. What a myopic view of things. Jobs and Wozniak essentially invented the personal computer. That did, in fact, change the world. Has nothing to do with iphones, though those are just another revolution along the path they started back in 1975. |
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Posted: 10/13/2011 11:38:11 AM EST
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You "change the world" people are higher then a goddamn kite. Agreed. He made a hugely successful product line, but i dont get the cock sucking that goes on. Its not like he invented a high speed smart phone while we were all communicating with cans and string. The iphone may have been a revolutionary smart phone, but it was hardly a revolution for mankind. What a myopic view of things. Jobs and Wozniak essentially invented the personal computer. That did, in fact, change the world. Has nothing to do with iphones, though those are just another revolution along the path they started back in 1975. FIFY |
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Posted: 10/13/2011 11:41:38 AM EST
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You "change the world" people are higher then a goddamn kite. Agreed. He made a hugely successful product line, but i dont get the cock sucking that goes on. Its not like he invented a high speed smart phone while we were all communicating with cans and string. The iphone may have been a revolutionary smart phone, but it was hardly a revolution for mankind. What a myopic view of things. Jobs and Wozniak essentially invented the personal computer. That did, in fact, change the world. Has nothing to do with iphones, though those are just another revolution along the path they started back in 1975. FIFY No, your edit is wrong. Wozniak is a great engineer –– he would never have gotten anywhere without Jobs. |
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Posted: 10/13/2011 11:50:46 AM EST
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He's dead Jim.
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Posted: 10/13/2011 12:28:37 PM EST
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Successful businessmen are seldom nice people. It takes a cut-throat fuck the world mentality to succeed at that level. Name any tycoon in the world in the last century. Most had a healthy ego, a single minded determination, a ruthless outlook, and few if any real friends.
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