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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:22:21 PM EDT
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He acted alone but secret service capped JFK with a m16. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:25:40 PM EDT
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The SS agent accidentally firing his M16 accidentally is my favorite conspiracy theory
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:25:55 PM EDT
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I’ve seen this theory and it’s believable. He gets shot by Oswald and a dumbass SS agent with a new M16 he’s not used to has an ND into the back of the president Kennedy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He acted alone but secret service capped JFK with a m16. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:26:18 PM EDT
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At the time it was not illegal to assinate the President, so was charged under Texas law for first degree murder. Problem was the Dallas Police Chief was kind of corrupt and a big show boater. I am convinced it was a conspiracy, one of two groups were involved (bringing in Oswald as a patsy) either organized crime (back then no one involved with organized crime talked) or it was put together by LBJ. LBJ was such a piece of shit and was hated the Kennedys. Bobby Krnnedy the AG had pissed off both parties to no end. When both parties had been used to get JFK elected, JFK's daddy had a shit load of ties to organized crime and in tough areas like Chicago they got votes moved to the Kennedy column. While even though at the time Texas was a Democrat state, JFK was not as popular as LBJ was here and LBJ was brought on board to get the southern Democrats to support the ticket. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I cannot understand why Oswald was not immediately taken into federal custody. He allegedly commits the ultimate federal crime--killing the president--and yet he is not immediately taken into super-secure federal custody. Instead he's in the custody of the Dallas Police who let an armed person into their police station and allow him the opportunity to shoot Oswald Oswald just happened to land a job at the book depisitory three months before the assassination. And the parade route just happened to take place beneath Oswald's window. When you look at it logically, it just stinks. I am convinced it was a conspiracy, one of two groups were involved (bringing in Oswald as a patsy) either organized crime (back then no one involved with organized crime talked) or it was put together by LBJ. LBJ was such a piece of shit and was hated the Kennedys. Bobby Krnnedy the AG had pissed off both parties to no end. When both parties had been used to get JFK elected, JFK's daddy had a shit load of ties to organized crime and in tough areas like Chicago they got votes moved to the Kennedy column. While even though at the time Texas was a Democrat state, JFK was not as popular as LBJ was here and LBJ was brought on board to get the southern Democrats to support the ticket. There were a lot of ties between the federal government and organized crime back in that time period of the Kennedy assasination. If Ruby, with his documented connections hadn't gone through the crowd and taken out Oswald I'd accept the lone gunman theory, although Oswald Soviet Union/Cuban connections can't be rationalized. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:29:20 PM EDT
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Were it not for the JFK assassination, we wouldn't have songs like California Uber Alles or Holiday in Cambodia.
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:29:49 PM EDT
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Evidence could convince me otherwise, but from what I've seen and read, I believe Oswald was the lone shooter. Whether he was part of some conspiracy, I have no idea. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:31:27 PM EDT
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I researched this a lot and went there. Oswald acted alone. After all, who would include a nutjob like him in a high level conspiracy. All the conspiracy theory points are not valid if you dig into them. People who understand more about physics and etc understand what they are really seeing with both JFK and 9/11. Ignorant people buy into the conspiracies because they can't grasp what they are really seeing. (Charlie Sheen on how fast the buildings fell for an easy example) |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:40:12 PM EDT
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I don’t think the Russians had anything to do with it. The way they backed down over The Cuban Missile Crisis demonstrates that they did not want a war with us. Taking part in assassinating a sitting president is a pretty good way to start a war. I think Oswald was selected for the job because his Russian connections would make for a good red herring. I think Jack Ruby was sent in to do what he did by the same people who set Oswald in motion. It’s possible Oswald’s handlers posed as Russian operatives to fool him into thinking he was fighting for the cause. I give it a 50/50 coin toss on either JBJ or the Federal Reserve being behind it. I doubt it was the mob, even at the height of their power they didn’t have the weight to make everything happen that needed to happen. They wanted Jupiter missles removed from Turkey. They got what they wanted. From what I've studied, the danger of the Cuban missle crises wasn't that either side intended to go to war, but that it could have spiraled out of control with a minor misstep. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:41:08 PM EDT
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Yes. Oswald acted alone. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:42:52 PM EDT
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I voted for Cyril Wecht more than once.
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Posted: 7/4/2019 12:45:23 PM EDT
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The SS agent accidentally firing his M16 accidentally is my favorite conspiracy theory |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 1:14:55 PM EDT
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This thread is the first time I've heard of this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The SS agent accidentally firing his M16 accidentally is my favorite conspiracy theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 2:21:52 PM EDT
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The SS agent accidentally firing his M16 accidentally is my favorite conspiracy theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 2:24:11 PM EDT
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After all it was you and me
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Posted: 7/4/2019 2:24:37 PM EDT
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The SS agent accidentally firing his M16 accidentally is my favorite conspiracy theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 2:05:36 PM EDT
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The SS agent accidentally firing his M16 accidentally is my favorite conspiracy theory Also, the wound, the spray, head explosion all, to me anyway, matches a close range high speed fragmenting bullet. - |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 4:40:58 PM EDT
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I looked out the window down to the Xs in the street
Easy shot for anybody that knows how to shoot. It is plausible that Oswald was the lone shooter. However Oswald's background during the height of the cold war is very unusual. Being assassinated in police custody is unusual and convenient. Having the details classified means information other than what has already been released is being kept secret for some reason. The video looks weird for all shots coming from the right rear. The sealed information will probably never be released. In my mind it comes down to whether I think the whole truth is being told and I dont think it is. |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 4:47:53 PM EDT
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Did Ruby? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes. Oswald acted alone. why is it so hard to believe there were 2 crazy people in Dallas? both expected to be heroes |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 4:48:14 PM EDT
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Some of the bullshit that is posted on this board is beyond belief. It's been more than 50 years since JFK was shot, and there are still people who think it was a fucking conspiracy. The people who believe that crap obviously have no knowledge whatever of human behavior. I can't remember who said it, but there is a quote that you JFK conspiracy buffs need to remember: "Two people can keep a secret only if one of them is dead." Don't any of you guys think that if there really was a conspiracy, that over the last 50 years that SOMEONE would have spilled the beans by now? ever had one under penalty of death? plenty of people keep secrets for a very long time entire classified capabilities have been kept secret for ever with nobody saying anything. |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 4:51:01 PM EDT
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After all it was you and me |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 4:53:49 PM EDT
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yes. why is it so hard to believe there were 2 crazy people in Dallas? both expected to be heroes Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes. Oswald acted alone. why is it so hard to believe there were 2 crazy people in Dallas? both expected to be heroes But I'm a cynic. |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 5:02:31 PM EDT
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The conspiracy theories were all part of the cover up.
While everybody was concerned about the grassy knowl, the secret service, the mob connections of Ruby Nobody bothered to focus on why Oswald killed JFK and who did he do it for? Who called the hit? Who was behind it? Distraction successful. |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 5:13:05 PM EDT
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The SS agent accidentally firing his M16 accidentally is my favorite conspiracy theory Jay |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 5:17:12 PM EDT
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The conspiracy theories were all part of the cover up. While everybody was concerned about the grassy knowl, the secret service, the mob connections of Ruby Nobody bothered to focus on why Oswald killed JFK and who did he do it for? Who called the hit? Who was behind it? Distraction successful. |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 9:06:30 PM EDT
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The theory of him being shot accidentally by the SS agent is ridiculous. I can't believe ppl here are seriously saying they think that's what happened.
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Posted: 7/5/2019 9:57:45 PM EDT
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I've often considered that. Instead of debating who killed Kennedy, the question of WHY rarely gets asked. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The conspiracy theories were all part of the cover up. While everybody was concerned about the grassy knowl, the secret service, the mob connections of Ruby Nobody bothered to focus on why Oswald killed JFK and who did he do it for? Who called the hit? Who was behind it? Distraction successful. There are several parallels between the mixed stories and "updated actual facts" on JFK assassination which don't exactly match the previously released facts and "Russia Collusion" story changing to match new info released. Ruby getting Oswald quick and silence about many aspects / classification is the most suspicious. IOW, I agree with @Mach above. Originally Posted by Mach: In my mind it comes down to whether I think the whole truth is being told and I dont think it is. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 6:44:19 PM EDT
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I've often considered that. Instead of debating who killed Kennedy, the question of WHY rarely gets asked. The Commission could not make any definitive determination ofOswald's motives. It has endeavored to isolate factors which con- 22 tributed to his character and which might have influenced his decision to assassinate President Kennedy. These factors were: (a) His deep-rooted resentment of all authority which was expressed in a hostility toward every society in which he lived ; (h) His inability to enter into meaningful relationships with people, and a continuous pattern of rejecting his environment in favor of new surroundings ; (c) His urge to try to find a place in history and despair at times over failures in his various undertakings ; (d) His capacity for violence as evidenced by his attempt to kill General Walker ; (e) His avowed commitment to Marxism and communism, as he understood the terms and developed his own interpretation of them; this was expressed by his antagonism toward the United States, by his defection to the Soviet Union, by his failure to be reconciled with life in the United States even after his disenchantment with the Soviet Union, and by his efforts, though frustrated, to go to Cuba. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:31:10 PM EDT
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I've been reading the Warren report.
They thought the cartridges had been cycled through the rifle before (as in, he was cycling live cartridges through it for practice). Also his wife told them he'd sit around working the action and dry firing, and that he would go out and actually practice with the rifle. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:32:42 PM EDT
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Mick? Is that you? How's Keith? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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