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Posted: 1/19/2022 10:35:38 AM EDT
I'm sure this topic has been covered before, but I'm interested to see what everyone thinks. I am mainly wondering about standard, motorized cars/trucks that are readily accessible to regular people (i.e. not an m1 abrams tank). For an individual I'm thinking a dirt bike or mountain bike are the best options, but if you need to move four or more people, what does GD think as the most capable, accessible, and utilitarian vehicles?

RULES:
1. Must have at least 4 seats.
2. Must cost under 50k.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:37:30 AM EDT
[#1]
1996 Toyota 4-Runner
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:38:21 AM EDT
[#2]
Wheel drive truck or SUV

Dependable
Lots of spare parts
Does not draw attention.

Not a gas hog
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:40:01 AM EDT
[#3]
Something with a manual shift transfer case and either locking hubs or no axle disconnect.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:40:37 AM EDT
[#4]
I may be biased, but JKU. Not that it's the most reliable, but the sheer massive number of them that are out there means parts will be available to find or scavenge as needed. And they're not too difficult to work on.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:41:16 AM EDT
[#5]
Tesla Cybertruck with solar panels.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:42:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:42:43 AM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:45:18 AM EDT
[#8]
Rental car.

You don't even have to wait for the apocalypse.  Just drive it like you're trying to kill it right now.  
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:46:17 AM EDT
[#9]
Gladiator technical.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:46:51 AM EDT
[#10]
Two decent mountain bikes. Send me $48k.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:47:16 AM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:47:17 AM EDT
[#12]
After years of chasing this conundrum
I’ve tried 7.3 Super Duties, 5.9 Dodge Cummins, 4.0 Jeep,  3.8 jeep, Ect.
I’d say something made by Toyota is your best bet, NOT that Toyota is the most capable or most HP / TQ, or longest range.
But its probably the most likely to NOT give you problems especially when parts would be hard to come by
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:47:17 AM EDT
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Gladiator technical.
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Yaaaaaasss!
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:47:55 AM EDT
[#14]
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1996 Toyota 4-Runner
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I was going for Tacoma, but that works too.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:49:08 AM EDT
[#15]
Depends on your specific needs.  With the information provided, I'm going with two bicycles.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:49:45 AM EDT
[#16]
Toyota Hilux Durability Test #2
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:51:15 AM EDT
[#17]
If it is a gas hog then it is BS.  

Fuel will be in super tight supply and most likely regulated (i.e., taken over by govt.) so, IMHO, it has to be fuel efficient as can be.

A 4WD with out gas is really quite useless.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:56:07 AM EDT
[#18]
Modern ethanol-gasoline will either be used up very quickly or degrade to the point it is unusable. It doesn't store very well.  Those of us who have experience fighting this fight with boat engines know what I'm talking about. So the first hurdle to get over would be choosing something that would either use a renewable fuel source, or something that uses a fuel you can somehow produce on your own.  

If not then what you'll be left with is a very large, stationary target.



edit : I was assuming we were talking about a complete collapse of society ,  WOROL ? If we're simply talking about a short supply type scenario (like some South American countries?) then buy a damn Corrola or Prius and call it good.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:58:11 AM EDT
[#19]
4Runner.  Uber reliable, very capable.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 10:58:57 AM EDT
[#20]
Echo the gasoline capacity comment.

I'm a jeep guy. My lament is the gas tank.

If it's a mass event and you're bugging out, you need to be able to get beyond standard gas tank range (think a 300 mile radius) of any major urban area quickly without gas stations.

If you're on the east coast, you're probably fucked.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:04:13 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:21:59 AM EDT
[#22]
Base model cost about 45k in 1944 dollars.

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Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:23:44 AM EDT
[#23]
I think the answer is a CTL with a trailer.

Tracks, can lift/dig/pull, somewhat armored, easy on diesel.  Slow, but not much will stop you.


Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:26:23 AM EDT
[#24]
I'm going with the road warrior scenario, and take the first one I come across.  
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:28:31 AM EDT
[#25]
Whatever your ar-15 can procure
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:29:05 AM EDT
[#26]
80 series Land Cruiser, triple locked, with rebuilt diesel engine
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:29:38 AM EDT
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Either/or.  Both have room for my posse.

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Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:31:08 AM EDT
[#28]
Side by side. Very very capable in almost any terrain, no electronics to track you like new cars, and depending on what you get they’re usually pretty damn reliable.

Oh and you can throw tracks on them if you really want to.

Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:31:45 AM EDT
[#29]
The one that is operational, has a full tank of gas and is in front of you.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:38:32 AM EDT
[#30]
I always thought a ambulance would be a good vehicle for this, definitely over looked. has a nice boxed in area plenty of hp to convert into a vehicle you can traverse in its a dually so if you flatten the front you can change it out with a rear temporarily.
other good options are ford rape vans or a tacoma
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:41:05 AM EDT
[#31]
I’d vote something diesel that can be ran with multi fuels is reliable but new enough parts are readily available. I’d say Super Duty or Excursion with a 7.3 reliable work horse but things that typically will cause issue are easy to access and work on.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:41:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Maybe some sort of electric dirt bike and a little solar panel farm to charge the battery?
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:43:51 AM EDT
[#33]
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Side by side. Very very capable in almost any terrain, no electronics to track you like new cars, and depending on what you get they’re usually pretty damn reliable.

Oh and you can throw tracks on them if you really want to.

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Can you "easily“ swap in a little 3 cyl. diesel?
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:45:37 AM EDT
[#34]
Raptor
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:46:02 AM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:46:41 AM EDT
[#36]
A bicycle with electric assist
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:48:19 AM EDT
[#37]
1994 Ford Bronco XLT 5.8L with manual hubs.
Identical to mine.
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Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:50:28 AM EDT
[#38]
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Wheel drive truck or SUV

Dependable
Lots of spare parts
Does not draw attention.

Not a gas hog
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Not drawing attention is a good point!
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:50:31 AM EDT
[#39]
I really want a pandur 6x6 AGMS....

The sfodd model!


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Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:50:47 AM EDT
[#40]
Gladiator Rubicon with diesel.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:51:10 AM EDT
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1996 Toyota 4-Runner
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This is a pretty good one. How would you modify yours?
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:51:37 AM EDT
[#42]
for an actual vehicle that is common-
it would be very hard to to better than a basic 4runner or tacoma
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:51:48 AM EDT
[#43]
Bronco sport. The small one, not the big one
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:52:09 AM EDT
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I’d vote something diesel that can be ran with multi fuels is reliable but new enough parts are readily available. I’d say Super Duty or Excursion with a 7.3 reliable work horse but things that typically will cause issue are easy to access and work on.
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I’ve always thought this or a diesel Land Cruiser. 7.3’s are tank engines, don’t produce enough power to break things, develop more than enough power if your not pulling a fully loaded trailer up a mountain pass, and run forever.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:52:17 AM EDT
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Something with a manual shift transfer case and either locking hubs or no axle disconnect.
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In general, it seems like most agree that the less fancy electronics or tech the better. Manual controls are easier to repair for your average person I think.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:53:46 AM EDT
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I may be biased, but JKU. Not that it's the most reliable, but the sheer massive number of them that are out there means parts will be available to find or scavenge as needed. And they're not too difficult to work on.
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Definitely a better choice than my 2008 Grand Cherokee lol
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:55:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:57:14 AM EDT
[#49]
Jeep.  And not due to capability or reliability.  Due to spare parts.  They are fucking everywhere.   Every parking lot full of abandoned cars will be like a Pep Boys for you.
Link Posted: 1/19/2022 11:59:15 AM EDT
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Two decent mountain bikes. Send me $48k.
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You haven’t purchased a MT bike in a while.
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