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Posted: 1/19/2022 11:59:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tesla Cybertruck with solar panels. I like this idea, but I fear this will draw a lot of unwanted attention |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:00:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you "easily“ swap in a little 3 cyl. diesel? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Side by side. Very very capable in almost any terrain, no electronics to track you like new cars, and depending on what you get they’re usually pretty damn reliable. Oh and you can throw tracks on them if you really want to. https://i.imgur.com/bOyc0L8.jpg Can you "easily“ swap in a little 3 cyl. diesel? My Club Car Carryall 1700 already has a 3cyl kubota diesel, solid rear axle, 4wd, dump bed and seating for 5 or 6. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:00:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jeep. And not due to capability or reliability. Due to spare parts. They are fucking everywhere. Every parking lot full of abandoned cars will be like a Pep Boys for you. If you want to find spare parts this is your answer... There won't be any Toyotas available because they will all still be running.... |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:03:02 PM EDT
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Something old that will still run after EMP blast
Or a horse |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve always thought this or a diesel Land Cruiser. 7.3’s are tank engines, don’t produce enough power to break things, develop more than enough power if your not pulling a fully loaded trailer up a mountain pass, and run forever. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’d vote something diesel that can be ran with multi fuels is reliable but new enough parts are readily available. I’d say Super Duty or Excursion with a 7.3 reliable work horse but things that typically will cause issue are easy to access and work on. I’ve always thought this or a diesel Land Cruiser. 7.3’s are tank engines, don’t produce enough power to break things, develop more than enough power if your not pulling a fully loaded trailer up a mountain pass, and run forever. The problem I would have with diesel land cruisers would be parts availability. If you do break something your likely hosed but every town in the country has a supply of second Gen super duty’s. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:04:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat is this car? Even modified, idk if it'd be my first choice |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:05:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySomething like this I'm sure would be useful. But not if you're trying to fly under the radar lol |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:06:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gladiator technical. I'd love one of these 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:06:36 PM EDT
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My Outback gets better mpg than any other ICE vehicle listed so far. Range is going to be important.
I'm my perfect world, a completely built 5cyl diesel g wagen or a new diesel 70 series. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:07:22 PM EDT
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Something with a diesel engine.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:08:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like this idea, but I fear this will draw a lot of unwanted attention Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tesla Cybertruck with solar panels. I like this idea, but I fear this will draw a lot of unwanted attention I think an electric side by side with a 30 cal full auto airgun on a pintle mount would be the ultimate secret squirrel perimeter defense vehicle 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:11:02 PM EDT
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Works against a Terminator.
What else other than a Jeep CJ has been proven? 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:11:11 PM EDT
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I always thought a older Tahoe....they run good can do okay 4x4 and there are tons out there for parts.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:14:20 PM EDT
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Unless it is nuclear powered. nothing will last very long.
In the movies or on TV the hero just fires up the car that has been sitting abandoned for several years, not in the real world. Even the gas in filling station tanks will go bad or get contaminated. The best you could do is some sort of bug out vehicle that can get you to your cabin in the mountains, if it has enough gas, and if the roads are not completely blocked. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:14:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis is an interesting choice - small, maneuverable, relatively quick, and definitely capable off road. Any idea on long-term reliability, parts availability and ease of repairs? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:16:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After years of chasing this conundrum I’ve tried 7.3 Super Duties, 5.9 Dodge Cummins, 4.0 Jeep, 3.8 jeep, Ect. I’d say something made by Toyota is your best bet, NOT that Toyota is the most capable or most HP / TQ, or longest range. But its probably the most likely to NOT give you problems especially when parts would be hard to come by Right - long term mechanical reliability seems like one of the most important attributes (maybe even the most important). |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:18:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Depends on your specific needs. With the information provided, I'm going with two bicycles. I think a bike for sure is the most ideal for an individual. What is your pick if you had to move 4 or more people on a regular basis? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:18:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySaving the vid to watch later while not at work 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:19:15 PM EDT
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I'm partial to my TJ Rubicon.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:20:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless it is nuclear powered. nothing will last very long. In the movies or on TV the hero just fires up the car that has been sitting abandoned for several years, not in the real world. Even the gas in filling station tanks will go bad or get contaminated. The best you could do is some sort of bug out vehicle that can get you to your cabin in the mountains, if it has enough gas, and if the roads are not completely blocked. Yep. Depends on how long the S will be HTF, but if we are talking about an extended period, a horse would probably be best. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:21:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it is a gas hog then it is BS. Fuel will be in super tight supply and most likely regulated (i.e., taken over by govt.) so, IMHO, it has to be fuel efficient as can be. A 4WD with out gas is really quite useless. Very important to consider. I think having 4wd is ideal, but not many 4wd vehicles out there getting 40+mpg lol Any thoughts on diesel or biodiesel? Any other way for someone to make their own fuel? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:23:36 PM EDT
[#22]
A horse
Maybe two |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:23:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Modern ethanol-gasoline will either be used up very quickly or degrade to the point it is unusable. It doesn't store very well. Those of us who have experience fighting this fight with boat engines know what I'm talking about. So the first hurdle to get over would be choosing something that would either use a renewable fuel source, or something that uses a fuel you can somehow produce on your own. If not then what you'll be left with is a very large, stationary target. edit : I was assuming we were talking about a complete collapse of society , WOROL ? If we're simply talking about a short supply type scenario (like some South American countries?) then buy a damn Corrola or Prius and call it good. I was thinking moreso full-blown collapse scenario. Any thoughts about biodiesel? I know virtually nothing about it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:24:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYes, but the military version with belt feds and shit on it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:25:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think a bike for sure is the most ideal for an individual. What is your pick if you had to move 4 or more people on a regular basis? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Depends on your specific needs. With the information provided, I'm going with two bicycles. I think a bike for sure is the most ideal for an individual. What is your pick if you had to move 4 or more people on a regular basis? With the information you provided in the op ? A Rickshaw The long-term reliability of a vehicle means very little unless you can acquire ,or somehow manufacture , the fuel necessary to keep it running. Since I do not own a home refinery I'm screwed if I ever find myself in a very sincere EOTWAWKI , along with most members here. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:26:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Echo the gasoline capacity comment. I'm a jeep guy. My lament is the gas tank. If it's a mass event and you're bugging out, you need to be able to get beyond standard gas tank range (think a 300 mile radius) of any major urban area quickly without gas stations. If you're on the east coast, you're probably fucked. I'll probably drive north until I hit lake superior. Don't tell the michiganders on me
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:26:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:27:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryThat Hilux technical ad is hilarious Toyota anything really seems like a popular pick. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:27:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGreat movie for it's time. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:27:55 PM EDT
[#30]
M35A2 Deuce and a Half.
Multifuel engine, will burn any hydrocarbon. Bring your own oil filtration system with you. There’ll be plenty of abandoned vehicles everywhere. LC |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Base model cost about 45k in 1944 dollars. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69887/YYEcCUP_jpg-2245868.JPG this is sweet lmao what the heck is it and where can I buy one? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:32:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the answer is a CTL with a trailer. Tracks, can lift/dig/pull, somewhat armored, easy on diesel. Slow, but not much will stop you. Forgive my ignorance, what's a CTL? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:32:32 PM EDT
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Hear me out...
3rd Gen Rav4 Sport (06-2012) with some mild A/T tires. You get the capability of a light off road vehicle that can handle a variety of terrain, with the on road performance of a sports sedan, but with more storage space. 3.5L V6 269 HP 0-60 in a little over 6 seconds Tows 3000+ lbs with a tow package. Handles like a car on road. AWD with the option to lock into 4WD up to 20 or 25 mph, and the ability to turn of traction control. They do surprisingly well in snow, sand, steep hills, and other light to medium off road situations. Sure a lifted Jeep of some flavor will do better, but you aren't outtunning anyone in one of those. It's not huge so it can squeeze into tighter spots that a big suv or truck. Bombproof, tons of Rav4 on the road, lots of parts out there. Easy to fix. It's the perfect balance of size, power, capability, handling, decent MPG, etc. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:32:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 80 series Land Cruiser, triple locked, with rebuilt diesel engine I like this idea 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:33:59 PM EDT
[#35]
V8 Interceptor
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:34:30 PM EDT
[#36]
In a perfect rubber bullet world, a Suzuki Samurai with a vw diesel swap engine.
All this perfect vehicle this and that talk for roaming the countryside in your “bug out” vehicle is utter nonsense. The first skirmish you get into, you’ll be hunting for another vehicle with less bullet holes and a non leaking radiator if you survive. If haven’t already moved your primary residence to a sparsely populated area, you aren’t thinking at all. You are dreaming. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:35:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Side by side. Very very capable in almost any terrain, no electronics to track you like new cars, and depending on what you get they’re usually pretty damn reliable. Oh and you can throw tracks on them if you really want to. https://i.imgur.com/bOyc0L8.jpg This option really seems to make a lot of sense. In a true SHTF/collapse, I cannot imagine needing to go on mad-max style raids requiring big armor and guns, but having quick, reliable transport for general errands and needs around your immediate AO. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:36:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1994 Ford Bronco XLT 5.8L with manual hubs. Identical to mine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541243/7955FC0D-79ED-4BE9-BCF3-125D67F89F2D_jpe-2245891.JPG Nice! My dad has been restoring an '87. Sweet truck
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:37:41 PM EDT
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Toyota. But not just anything Toyota.
One that DOES NOT have a timing belt. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:38:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Something old that will still run after EMP blast Or a horse A horse! Love this idea - I've wondered about getting a couple (sometime in the future). |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:42:28 PM EDT
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A diesel Hilux and a Kawi KLR 650
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:45:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1994 Ford Bronco XLT 5.8L with manual hubs. Identical to mine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541243/7955FC0D-79ED-4BE9-BCF3-125D67F89F2D_jpe-2245891.JPG Gross. As an owner of a 1994 Bronco and intimately familiar with all of its quirks, no... just no. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:47:24 PM EDT
[#43]
79 Series Toyota Land Cruiser
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:49:16 PM EDT
[#45]
A white 4x4 work truck with a utility bed.
Seriously. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:53:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wheel drive truck or SUV Dependable Lots of spare parts Does not draw attention. Not a gas hog This last is a tough one, honestly. But if you can make do with ~20mpg in level highway cruising you have a decent amount of options. Some of the newer domestic half tons tend to beat the smaller trucks (Tacoma, etc) in highway mileage, if you're talking gas engines. You want a truck. Hauling lots of fuel in an SUV is a pain in the ass and the pickup is more versatile for heavy/large cargo. Mid-size trucks like a Taco will fit more places if you have dense forest or mountains but full size will hold quite a bit more. SxS if you're only talking local transport and no huge cargo, just for gas mileage. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:58:03 PM EDT
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If it’s within 6 months, any 4 runner.
Post 6 months when gas degrades. Horse and pack mule. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you "easily“ swap in a little 3 cyl. diesel? I'm not sure how "easy" it is, but they make a version for the military. (though it's technically a Rzr, not a General.)  |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:05:27 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it’s within 6 months, any 4 runner. Post 6 months when gas degrades. Horse and pack mule. This is good. I also like bicycles with a small trailer is a good option Quiet and very mobile. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:06:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A horse! Love this idea - I've wondered about getting a couple (sometime in the future). I say this as a serious horseman. |
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