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Link Posted: 2/12/2019 6:50:51 AM EST
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what a fucking mad man.
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A guy wrote an article awhile back about the possibility of a really unhinged right wing American president provoking China into a war and getting a lot of the west coast depopulated along with China being annihilated.

Which would solidify conservative control of national politics for a long time and solidify our global supremacy.
what a fucking mad man.
Worth it. Saves us a humanitarian crisis when the west coast inevitably falls into the ocean. Anything to help reduce population numbers globally.  Before the global food crisis / wars happen from rampant over population.
Link Posted: 2/12/2019 6:55:24 AM EST
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At least their propaganda machine works. Against the Raptor the J-20 is strictly a disposable, one time use target.
Link Posted: 2/12/2019 7:11:29 AM EST
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It irritates me that people mock them on their ability to build a jet engine. Well, humans have proven to be good at problem solving. They're going to eventually figure it out.

America sucked at building rockets. And then we figured out how to build them without it exploding on the launch pad.

Planning for the future by banking on a foes current manufacturing capacity is fucking dumb. China is not someone to underestimate.
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On that point you are right. The Chinese may one day produce a plane capable of doing what it is advertised of doing. However, when they do we will already have the next generation aircraft rolling off the production line. With China's aggressive behavior, the world can not afford to be complacent or in second place. We also have to recognize China rarely tells the truth. They are masters at saying one thing yet doing another One day they may develop an engine capable of meeting the design needs of the J-20 but it still has design flaws that will still limit it to barely gen 5 status. We aren't sitting on our asses either.
Link Posted: 2/12/2019 7:22:29 AM EST
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A guy wrote an article awhile back about the possibility of a really unhinged right wing American president provoking China into a war and getting a lot of the west coast depopulated along with China being annihilated.

Which would solidify conservative control of national politics for a long time and solidify our global supremacy.
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What scifi books have you been reading?
Link Posted: 2/12/2019 7:53:38 AM EST
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We seem to be in overall agreement over the big picture.

With regard to the Chinese culture, I don't have much of a disagreement with you there.  Although they are experiencing a societal change along the lines that Western Europe did during the industrial revolution.

My point is we cannot afford to underestimate them.  We must overestimate their capability and plan accordingly.

Thank God, the Japanese seem to be waking back up in terms of their defense spending and long term outlook.

What is interesting is that the Japanese are partnering with the British to make the next generation long range A2A missile to be even better than the current Meteor.

Which begs the question, what will be the aircraft the Japanese intend to hang it off?

Partnership on the proposed F-22B and new 6th Gen Fighter would really be a step in the right direction of the US and it's allies in the region staying 1 step ahead of the Chinese.
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It serves China little purpose to play the propaganda game unless they are weaker than we think they are. They are getting bolder because they are getting stronger. That can't be overlooked but the purpose of our intelligence community is to determine what is real and what is not. We have to strike a balance between remaining stronger than our enemies while avoiding spending ourselves into poverty. To defeat your enemy before you meet him on the battlefield is the consummate victory is it not?
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