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Posted: 4/17/2023 1:00:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my mind I’m putting together the most likely scenario. The kid goes to the wrong house to pick up his siblings. The home owner tells him the siblings aren’t there. The kid demands to get his siblings which the home owner can’t provide. The kid being dumb tries to enter the house to look for his siblings. Then home owner shoots him. Could be... one thing for sure, at some point the kid went berserk, as they all do any time somebody does something they don't like, and the resident was forced to fire. It has to be a genetic trait. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 1:02:38 PM EST
[#2]
https://www.tonyskansascity.com/2023/04/kansas-city-teen-shooting-ignites.html
Halfway decent article here from Tony's KC blog; he's been writing this thing for about 20 years, and generally covers stuff more honestly (and more quickly and accurately) than the local press. He can at times be pretty lefty on some issues, but he's generally been a strong and vocal 2A supporter (and detests abortion . . . which makes the liberals really hate him) |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 1:15:47 PM EST
[#3]
Ring Doorbell for the win.
Unknown to me person gets talked to via Ring. Yeah I’m covering the door, no I’m not going to the door. Cheap insurance for me and my wife. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 1:28:34 PM EST
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Who in the heck let's their elementary aged kids stay out until 10pm at someone else's house on a school night
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Posted: 4/17/2023 1:33:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Story says he was ringing the doorbell. But maybe he was doing both. Many questions. E.g. you know what kind of language teens (black and otherwise) use... maybe he was pounding on the door and yelling "hey, open this motherf*cking door, you goddam motherf*cker" and so on. Scared the crap out of the little old man. Bang, bang. Regardless, just like they did with Treyvon Martin, Eric Garner, Michael Brown, etc. the media will pump it for all it's worth. I can just see them in the conference room: "hey guys, we got a juicy one here!" I just feel sorry for the old codger; the last remaining years of his life have been turned into a living hell. Sad. According to the post showing a email from the school's Principal, Ralph Yarl is a great student and a very talented musician. Also sounds like he's waiting for the investigation to conclude before the rioting to start over Yarl. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 1:37:20 PM EST
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Do I have my facts straight here?
a) Only side of the story currently in the press is the kid's story; and b) The police have not made an arrest _________________________ If the above is true then shouldn't we be asking what facts the police know that the press doesn't? And waiting for those facts to be presented before passing judgement? |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 1:41:30 PM EST
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And your 16 year old kid was out in the family car at 10pm. Isn’t that a bit odd?
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Posted: 4/17/2023 2:21:49 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.tonyskansascity.com/2023/04/kansas-city-teen-shooting-ignites.html Halfway decent article here from Tony's KC blog; he's been writing this thing for about 20 years, and generally covers stuff more honestly (and more quickly and accurately) than the local press. He can at times be pretty lefty on some issues, but he's generally been a strong and vocal 2A supporter (and detests abortion . . . which makes the liberals really hate him) I have read Tony for many years. Lets just pull one quote from the article; for the Lolz ........."In both instances there's a slight exaggeration that's mostly used, in a practical sense, to garner sympathy from chubby white women -- The blessed constituency who have clandestinely decided nearly every facet of Western Civilization from movable type to yoga pants."........... |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 2:51:22 PM EST
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DA wants more evidence to be collected and interviews to be completed before possibly bringing charges.
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Posted: 4/17/2023 2:55:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look closer, the street and terrace are near the north city limits, and they aren't simple to trace. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I haven't read much about this, but the posted article doesn't make sense. There is no 115th Street in "the northeast" part of the city as that term refers to the historically Italian now largely Vietnamese portion of downtown. If it was north of the river, it should be NE 115th or NW 115th Street. 115th without the directional prefix is 115 blocks south of the river. Sure, the mistakes been made before, but those 230 blocks are at least 30 minutes apart from each other. Having lived in Kansas City, Missouri I can tell you the whole street and terrace part can be confusing. On top of that Kansas City has many of these streets that start and stop one place and start up again a few blocks later. Before GPS became a thing, at times could be difficult going to a call and you think you're almost there, only to find the street ends per se and starts up again a few blocks later. Why KC did the whole Terrace and Street with the same numbers is beyond me. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 2:56:16 PM EST
[#11]
Oh no Yarl bros, he might have accidently also entered the man's house! 
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Posted: 4/17/2023 2:57:09 PM EST
[#12]
If my gun is a cocking, don't come a knocking
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:00:01 PM EST
[#13]
So where is the doorbell video?
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:02:29 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Oh no Yarl bros, he might have accidently also entered the man's house! Yarlbros... not like this... Say... they going to yank that 1 million gofundme if he was "accidentally entering" the "wrong" house? Nothing about this smelled right from the start, and even if you hope it's just an unfortunate accident... it's just not going to pass the sniff test. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:04:18 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yarlbros... not like this... Say... they going to yank that 1 million gofundme if he was "accidentally entering" the "wrong" house? Nothing about this smelled right from the start, and even if you hope it's just an unfortunate accident... it's just not going to pass the sniff test. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:07:07 PM EST
[#16]
Nothing like Mob justice.
Guess election season has officially kicked off. Hope everyone stock up on bricks and sand bags. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:08:14 PM EST
[#17]
What pisses me off the most, is if the kid was white and a white guy shot him nobody would care. Now that he is black, it's a big deal, but does not matter how many blacks die day in and out, unless it's at the hands of a whitey. The other issues I have is, even if the guy was a racist and shot the kid, well, it's terrible but that his problem, not mine, why is it an indictment of all whites when a singular event occurs, which based on stats is very rare.
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:10:27 PM EST
[#18]
Many people mistakenly think "Castle Doctrine" extends outside their house. Unless the young man had a weapon, the shooter is in deep shit.
Statically, this is a very rare event. Whites shoot whites and blacks shoot blacks. Similar event here in Menard Count and the shooter was convicted of first degree murder. It did not make the national news for some reason. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:17:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: stuff i heard is kid knocked on door doing a delivery for door dash or similar. then was shot twice in the head through a glass door. the shot twice thing makes me question the narrative, the narrative that the local news *here in maine so quite a ways removed* was kid is door dash driver , rings doorbell homeowner shoots twice through glass door with 2 shots to head and kid is in critical care. This means either A kid got shot in head and stayed upright for 2nd shot(my understanding is headshots are down right then) , there was a "pinning shot"(which would be easily evident and likely reported), or C the narrative isnt entirely factual. Based on Kyle rittenhosue initial "facts" reported, one cant be really sure what is reported is factual. The media is reporting kid was at wrong address, only how did they KNOW that, kid was shot in head twice. Im not a doctor but aside from democrat politians married to astronauts I'm unaware of any people that talk after 1 shot to the head. How did the "wrong house" narrative get started? seems like that would be easy to figure out, no? Kid gets ID'ed, parents say he was going to 1234 XXX street. Cops quickly realizes shooting was at 1234 XXX terrace. Kid doesnt appear to be a shitbag initially but the difference between "he was knocking" and "he entered" is critical and needs to be understood. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:21:20 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: seems like that would be easy to figure out, no? Kid gets ID'ed, parents say he was going to 1234 XXX street. Cops quickly realizes shooting was at 1234 XXX terrace. Kid doesnt appear to be a shitbag initially but the difference between "he was knocking" anhed "he entered" is critical and needs to be understood. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:24:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, if that turns out to be the case, they'll probably just argue that shooting home invaders is racist, and Biden will send out another tweet about gun control. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yarlbros... not like this... Say... they going to yank that 1 million gofundme if he was "accidentally entering" the "wrong" house? Nothing about this smelled right from the start, and even if you hope it's just an unfortunate accident... it's just not going to pass the sniff test. A state representative in Little Rock makes that argument all the time, and has for years. She claims self defense laws are clearly racist since they give white people an excuse to murder black people. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:27:47 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, it probably was an unfortunate misunderstanding. Maybe the kid tried opening the glass door, and the homeowner perceived that as a random guy trying to do a home invasion, which isn't an unreasonable conclusion to draw. You're probably right, the little nuances matter. Especially if it involves a teen of any skin color, an elderly guy in his own home at night, and what the ACTUAL events were. The immediate reaction as if it's race related is the usual dumb dumb shit. Bringing Crump in makes it look even worse, has he EVER been on the right side of history? |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:28:57 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Many people mistakenly think "Castle Doctrine" extends outside their house. Unless the young man had a weapon, the shooter is in deep shit. Maybe in your communist cesspool of a state. Would you be surprised to learn that in most states that have a “Stand Your Ground” law stand your ground means anyplace you have a legal right to be? Would it surprise you that in some states that are not Illinois that shooting through a closed door at someone attempting to break into your home is perfectly legal? |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:30:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. If Ben Crump had ever represented Mother Theresa I’d assume she was the bad guy. Crump is human garbage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anytime I see Ben Crumps name I immediately ignore the story. This. If Ben Crump had ever represented Mother Theresa I’d assume she was the bad guy. Crump is human garbage. Kinda surprised he never tried to represent her then, now that you mention it...... |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:30:52 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Many people mistakenly think "Castle Doctrine" extends outside their house. Unless the young man had a weapon, the shooter is in deep shit. Statically, this is a very rare event. Whites shoot whites and blacks shoot blacks. Similar event here in Menard Count and the shooter was convicted of first degree murder. It did not make the national news for some reason. That's bullshit. Someone trying to enter a house without permission is absolutely an imminent threat. You don't have to wait for them to break in, and they don't need a weapon to be considered a threat. People are beaten to death all the time. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:33:30 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Many people mistakenly think "Castle Doctrine" extends outside their house. Unless the young man had a weapon, the shooter is in deep shit. Statically, this is a very rare event. Whites shoot whites and blacks shoot blacks. Similar event here in Menard Count and the shooter was convicted of first degree murder. It did not make the national news for some reason. In most states… it does, it could be your barn, a hotel, a neighbor’s house if you’re in it legally (didn’t just walk in) extends to a vehicle, etc |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:40:14 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing like Mob justice.
Guess election season has officially kicked off. Hope everyone stock up on bricks and sand bags. Anyone planning street craziness in that area of KC is asking for a whole lot of problems. That isnt the area to try it. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:43:31 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This happened a few blocks from my house. By all accounts, the kid is a good kid. He goes to the same high school as my oldest son. It’s a very good school, probably one of the more affluent in the area. There was a big “rally” down the street. Hundreds of people showed up. The social media posts stated they were protesting because they were tired of all these “white men shooting black kids”. And yet they ignore the 8+ shot over the late week and weekend during black-on-black violence in Westport and 35/Prospect, followed by a revenge shooting the next night st 37/Prospect. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:49:24 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe in your communist cesspool of a state. Would you be surprised to learn that in most states that have a "Stand Your Ground" law stand your ground means anyplace you have a legal right to be? Would it surprise you that in some states that are not Illinois that shooting through a closed door at someone attempting to break into your home is perfectly legal? Just to be clear, I am agreeing with you Hoji. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 3:58:33 PM EST
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:27:58 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe in your communist cesspool of a state. Would you be surprised to learn that in most states that have a “Stand Your Ground” law stand your ground means anyplace you have a legal right to be? Would it surprise you that in some states that are not Illinois that shooting through a closed door at someone attempting to break into your home is perfectly legal? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Many people mistakenly think "Castle Doctrine" extends outside their house. Unless the young man had a weapon, the shooter is in deep shit. Maybe in your communist cesspool of a state. Would you be surprised to learn that in most states that have a “Stand Your Ground” law stand your ground means anyplace you have a legal right to be? Would it surprise you that in some states that are not Illinois that shooting through a closed door at someone attempting to break into your home is perfectly legal? No, it would not. Was this young man trying to break in? Did he have a weapon? Did he threaten the 80 year old home owner? In Illinois as in most other states there has to be a real threat when outside your home, but in your house you do not have to show you feared for your life to use deadly force if the perp broke in. This is Castle Doctrine which is different that Stand Your Ground. Most of down state Illinois is not antigun. Ninety sheriffs out of 102 counties have written letters that they will not enforce the AWB. A similar number of States Attorneys are against the AWB and 33 SA's have filed briefs supporting our lawsuits. In fact, I am the past President of Guns Save Life, the most progun organization in Illinois. NRA is useless. Illinois State Rifle Association always folds in the end so they can save their place at the table with new gun registration. We don't fold. We are supporting 14 lawsuits in State and federal court against the new AWB, and the FOID card, and have raised tens of thousands of dollars to support these cases. I contributed to the Caulkins' case and am a plaintiff in Devore 3. Other people have ran from the state, we have not run. BTW we do not support unjustified shooting. We are literally on the front lines of the fight for the 2A. Somebody has to stop these bastards. If we do not stop it here, in WA, in NY, and in CA, it will be coming to your state. We are hearing all their arguments and so learn their strategy. Their arguments are weak, but we are learning really fast and our attorneys are getting better and better. At no time in my 70 years have the stars aligned so we can fight gun control until now. Here is more the Kansas case: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11981377/Viola-Davis-supports-family-black-teenager-16-shot-white-homeowner.html |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:47:56 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it would not. Was this young man trying to break in? Did he have a weapon? Did he threaten the 80 year old home owner? In Illinois as in most other states there has to be a real threat when outside your home, but in your house you do not have to show you feared for your life to use deadly force if the perp broke in. This is Castle Doctrine which is different that Stand Your Ground. Most of down state Illinois is not antigun. Ninety sheriffs out of 102 counties have written letters that they will not enforce the AWB. A similar number of States Attorneys are against the AWB and 33 SA's have filed briefs supporting our lawsuits. In fact, I am the past President of Guns Save Life, the most progun organization in Illinois. NRA is useless. Illinois State Rifle Association always folds in the end so they can save their place at the table with new gun registration. We don't fold. We are supporting 14 lawsuits in State and federal court against the new AWB, and the FOID card, and have raised tens of thousands of dollars to support these cases. I contributed to the Caulkins' case and am a plaintiff in Devore 3. Other people have ran from the state, we have not run. BTW we do not support unjustified shooting. We are literally on the front lines of the fight for the 2A. Somebody has to stop these bastards. If we do not stop it here, in WA, in NY, and in CA, it will be coming to your state. We are hearing all their arguments and so learn their strategy. Their arguments are weak, but we are learning really fast and our attorneys are getting better and better. At no time in my 70 years have the stars aligned so we can fight gun control until now. Here is more the Kansas case: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11981377/Viola-Davis-supports-family-black-teenager-16-shot-white-homeowner.html ETA: Not saying this is what happened here. I could see this one going at least three different ways, including as a bad shoot. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:49:07 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The entire narrative so far has been delivered by his momma, so of course he didn't do nothing. You tell me why a teen is "pulling up to the wrong house" at ten at night, with no phone on him.  You've never mistyped an address or received one with one number off? Cops do this ALL THE TIME. Sucks for the kid if reports are accurate. In for more details |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:53:31 PM EST
[#34]
It he shot through the door, what a fucking coward.
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:56:23 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What pisses me off the most, is if the kid was white and a white guy shot him nobody would care. Now that he is black, it's a big deal, but does not matter how many blacks die day in and out, unless it's at the hands of a whitey. The other issues I have is, even if the guy was a racist and shot the kid, well, it's terrible but that his problem, not mine, why is it an indictment of all whites when a singular event occurs, which based on stats is very rare. Sounds like an anti 2A orgs wet dream. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:57:00 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And your 16 year old kid was out in the family car at 10pm. Isn’t that a bit odd? No. Especially not if he worked or was at some extra curricular activity, or his parents work late, and he was picking them up from a sitter. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:58:32 PM EST
[#37]
This happened Last Thursday night. The child is home recovering from a gunshot wound to the head and arm. No Caliber of weapon has been released so far.
https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/ralph-yarl/live-updates-reaction-to-ralph-yarl-shooting-continues-gofundme-up-to-1-2m A neighbor went on a KMBZ-FM radio show Monday to describe his experience helping Yarl. The neighbor, James Lynch, told host Dana Wright of the Dana and Parks Show that he was out back of his house for a smoke when he heard someone yell "Help me. Help me. I've been shot." Lynch, who was 250 to 300 feet away, then saw Yarl stumble from the home and lay on the street. At first Yarl was motionless and devoid of any movement. Lynch said he was concerned that he had run to somebody who had passed away. But luckily, Yarl started to show movement and tried to lift his head up, but Lynch told him to keep it down. Lynch said Yarl was responsive to questions immediately and didn't seem to struggle for words at all. Lynch said that he did not hear the shots or any disturbance prior to hearing Yarl yell for help. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 4:59:40 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. If Ben Crump had ever represented Mother Theresa I’d assume she was the bad guy. Crump is human garbage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anytime I see Ben Crumps name I immediately ignore the story. This. If Ben Crump had ever represented Mother Theresa I’d assume she was the bad guy. Crump is human garbage. Crump was invoking the memory of Trayvon Martin in an interview I just saw on TV, talking about poor innocent black children being shot. 
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Posted: 4/17/2023 5:11:51 PM EST
[#39]
Charges was just filed Count 1 Class A felony Assualt 1st Degree Count 2 Armed Criminal Action DA just said .32 revolver. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 5:17:18 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am wondering if the guy used an Air Rifle, and no actual gun was used. Charges was just filed Count 1 Class A felony Assualt 1st Degree Count 2 Armed Criminal Action DA Will not discuss the type of weapon used. Charges filed? Link? Sounds like a bad shoot by an old guy. Especially with the reported second shot after the kid had fallen. If it's as reported, he'll spend the rest of his years locked up. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 5:18:35 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Charges filed? Link? Sounds like a bad shoot by an old guy. Especially with the reported second shot after the kid had fallen. If it's as reported, he'll spend the rest of his years locked up. They should be releasing probabl cause shortly. Watching the live press conference https://www.kmbc.com/nowcast |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 5:21:19 PM EST
[#42]
“He heard rustling around going on in the house and then finally the door was open,” the attorney said. “And he was confronted by a man who told him, ‘Don’t come back around here,’ and then he immediately fired his weapon.”
In my house? I'd have fuckin' shot him too!! 
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Posted: 4/17/2023 5:30:01 PM EST
[#43]
 Attached FileAnymore, this will eventually make national news. FJB will call it racist and DOJ dictatorship will investigate as a hate crime. Yet all the attacks on so called white privileged Americans....nada.....and being justified as being done by oppressed people. Therefore it's OK and not a hate crime. Sorry I really just do not care anymore. I done being civil when there are two different sets of laws being enforced or the lack of. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 5:52:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “He heard rustling around going on in the house and then finally the door was open,” the attorney said. “And he was confronted by a man who told him, ‘Don’t come back around here,’ and then he immediately fired his weapon.” In my house? I'd have fuckin' shot him too!! I think you're missing the point. Correct me if I'm wrong but "he" in that quote is Yarl, the one shot, that heard rustling in the house before the door was opened and he was shot. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 5:55:56 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And your 16 year old kid was out in the family car at 10pm. Isn’t that a bit odd? That alone, not really. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 6:01:10 PM EST
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Posted: 4/17/2023 6:05:49 PM EST
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Posted: 4/17/2023 6:08:26 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryNot to be clinical but they will charge anyone with enough riot pressure Was the victim inside the shooter's house at any point in time. Or trying to get in. It really comes down to that. If not. Good charge. If so good shooting |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 6:11:15 PM EST
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Posted: 4/17/2023 6:11:21 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Having lived in Kansas City, Missouri I can tell you the whole street and terrace part can be confusing. On top of that Kansas City has many of these streets that start and stop one place and start up again a few blocks later. Before GPS became a thing, at times could be difficult going to a call and you think you're almost there, only to find the street ends per se and starts up again a few blocks later. Why KC did the whole Terrace and Street with the same numbers is beyond me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I haven't read much about this, but the posted article doesn't make sense. There is no 115th Street in "the northeast" part of the city as that term refers to the historically Italian now largely Vietnamese portion of downtown. If it was north of the river, it should be NE 115th or NW 115th Street. 115th without the directional prefix is 115 blocks south of the river. Sure, the mistakes been made before, but those 230 blocks are at least 30 minutes apart from each other. Having lived in Kansas City, Missouri I can tell you the whole street and terrace part can be confusing. On top of that Kansas City has many of these streets that start and stop one place and start up again a few blocks later. Before GPS became a thing, at times could be difficult going to a call and you think you're almost there, only to find the street ends per se and starts up again a few blocks later. Why KC did the whole Terrace and Street with the same numbers is beyond me. |
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