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Posted: 7/16/2013 4:13:07 AM EDT

[#1]

.300 wby.

It's all I need. It's all anybody should ever need for anything.....but wants and needs are different.

I would like a .338 Lapua or .50 BMG

Posted: 7/16/2013 4:13:58 AM EDT

[#2]

.338 RUM

Posted: 7/16/2013 4:52:39 AM EDT

[#3]

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I have it already a sporter Springfield 03-A4 in .458 Win Mag.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w260/lugerman_album/1903/1903458.jpg http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w260/lugerman_album/1903/1903serial.jpg

Dang, that really bumps up the bolt thrust on that old rifle. Has this been researched for safety?

Given the different areas of each caliber .0745 sq in for the .30 and .1647 sq in for the .458, that is 2.2 times the effective pressure on the bolt, if the cartridges are of the same sammi pressure limit.

Bad math... The force on the bolt is determined by the area of the base of the cartridge. The bolt doesn't know or care about bore diameter. So:

.30-06 case is .471 base dia. = .174in^2

.458 case is .513 base dia. = .206 in^2

An increase of 18% going to the .458. Assuming the original engineers designed the bolt with a healthy safety factor of 3 or more 18% isn't that big a deal.

Posted: 7/16/2013 5:18:06 AM EDT

[#4]

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I want a something chambered in something obscene like .577 T-rex

or 700 nitro

Yup.
With somebody else providing the ammo!

The Ol' Crew Chief

Posted: 7/16/2013 5:20:34 AM EDT

[#5]

800cm Dora railway cannon with a Hubble Telescope for a sight ....

Posted: 7/16/2013 5:26:52 AM EDT

[#6]

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Non-sporting .........................

<a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/drfcolt/media/Boys%20Anti-Tank%20Rifle/100_1870_zps26d5d4d3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk64/drfcolt/Boys%20Anti-Tank%20Rifle/100_1870_zps26d5d4d3.jpg</a>

Is that a fucking Boys?

Yes, in 50BMG verses 55Boys ............

That was going to be my next question, if you had it changed. That's one of my dream guns, but I'll never have the cash for one. Great looking gun.

Posted: 7/16/2013 5:49:30 AM EDT

[#7]

I have no plan to hunt "big game" so if I got one it would just be for fun, to have, etc. ... so probably a nice Sharps of some kind, no real interest in the big boomers.

Posted: 7/16/2013 6:26:16 AM EDT

[#8]

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.256 Newton

In a Newton rifle. Those things are so cool.

I saw one that swallowed two casefulls of Blue Dot. The second one blew it up.

Posted: 7/16/2013 6:27:47 AM EDT

[#9]

Largest? 308/30-06, all I need.

Posted: 7/16/2013 6:46:00 AM EDT

[#10]

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800cm Dora railway cannon with a Hubble Telescope for a sight ....

Dora was 80cm. An 8 meter bore diameter would be pretty impressive.

Posted: 7/16/2013 7:07:31 AM EDT

[#11]

I would like a Husqvarna 640 in 9.3x62mm.

Posted: 7/16/2013 7:10:39 AM EDT

[#12]

Ruger #1 in 458Win mag. After all, I do have a set of RCBS dies & 6 pieces of brass. It seems incumbent upon myself that I acquire said rifle.

Posted: 7/16/2013 7:13:53 AM EDT

[#13]

Trade Ex Canada has these for sale: Zastava 9.3x62 Mauser actioned rifle new and in the box for $695.

Posted: 7/16/2013 7:29:21 AM EDT

[#14]

My great grandpa's .348 Winchester Model 71 its from 1946 Deluxe long tang, my grandfather has it now and I take it out shooting every once in a while. Other than the super hard to find bullets its a real hard hitting MOFO on steel silhouette targets

Posted: 7/16/2013 7:36:16 AM EDT

[#15]

CZ 550 Safari .375H&H

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Posted: 7/16/2013 7:40:00 AM EDT

[#16]

I was at the range one day and a guy had a Krieghoff double rifle in .450/400 Nitro Express that he was sighting in for a safari in Africa. He let me put a couple of rounds through it. For dangerous I think I would rather have a good bolt action in something like .416 Rigby, but it was pretty darn cool.

Posted: 7/16/2013 7:46:21 AM EDT

[#17]

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I want to eventually get around to buying a double in either .470 NE or .500 NE.

I came here to post this.

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:07:18 AM EDT

[#18]

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.256 Newton

In a Newton rifle. Those things are so cool.

I saw one that swallowed two casefulls of Blue Dot. The second one blew it up.

That sucks, there aren't many of those around.

My grandad killed a gob of elk and deer with his, Dad has it now.

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:09:14 AM EDT

[#19]

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Trade Ex Canada has these for sale: Zastava 9.3x62 Mauser actioned rifle new and in the box for $695.

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I wish we still imported those.

Is that in Canadian dollars?

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:12:22 AM EDT

[#20]

700 BDL in .338 RUM, fuck that rifle.

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:13:22 AM EDT

[#21]

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Trade Ex Canada has these for sale: Zastava 9.3x62 Mauser actioned rifle new and in the box for $695.

<a href="http://s641.photobucket.com/user/Fluffy9lives/media/Zastavain93x62_zps860fe97b.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/Fluffy9lives/Zastavain93x62_zps860fe97b.jpg</a>

I wish we still imported those.

Is that in Canadian dollars?

Yes

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:15:11 AM EDT

[#22]

Something with a 4 in it and a nice break action. I want to get back to Africa and try my hand at Cape Buffs

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:19:01 AM EDT

[#23]

http://www.thegunworks.com/custprodgun.cfm?ProductID=2544&do=detail&Cat2Option=yes#

I got to check one out the last time I was there, the thing is massive. The guy told me it could also be made in flintlock,
which is what I would get if I could spare that kind of money. 4 bore = 1.052 caliber.

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:19:24 AM EDT

[#24]

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I have no plan to hunt "big game" so if I got one it would just be for fun, to have, etc. ... so probably a nice Sharps of some kind, no real interest in the big boomers.

The way you collect guns, that's probably a good thing

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:20:48 AM EDT

[#25]

i'd have a mini-gun and mount it to my jeep. nothing screams "sporting rifle" to me more than a mini-gun mounted to a jeep wrangler.

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:23:03 AM EDT

[#26]

308 is plenty big to take down anything I will ever encounter.

Posted: 7/16/2013 8:24:44 AM EDT

[#27]

.375 cheytac

Or just a .338 LM, covers most basis with a 22" barrel well beyond what I shoot.

Posted: 7/16/2013 9:03:13 AM EDT

[#28]

.308 or .30-06.

There is no game in North American that an .06 can't take down. I'm not against people using anything bigger, just stating that my Tikka M695 in .06 will take any game I desire. So I see no need to move up to anything bigger.

Ammo is everywhere...lots of options. It just works.

Posted: 7/16/2013 9:21:59 AM EDT

[#29]

57mm recoilless rifle.

though for "hunting" 30-06 is fine in most cases.

Posted: 7/16/2013 10:18:27 AM EDT

[#30]

For me, it's be a 30-06 bolt action. I have an M1 in 30-06 and a 308 bolt action, so I am not under-gunned.

I'd like a Sharps in 45-70 (or similar cartridge) but it is unlikely that's be practical for anything I do.

Posted: 7/16/2013 10:28:35 AM EDT

[#31]

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Not .50bmg or .338 lapua?

I personally would like to have a Ruger #1 Tropical in .416 Rigby or a .45-70 in a Marlin Guide Gun.

If we ever get together I'll bring my #1 .416. ;)

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Posted: 7/16/2013 10:30:14 AM EDT

[#32]

45-70

Posted: 7/16/2013 11:53:50 AM EDT

[#33]

I picked up a 375 H&H Ruger today.

Posted: 7/16/2013 12:02:40 PM EDT

[#34]

I'd like a bolt action in .300 win mag. It should take down any animal on this continent

Posted: 7/16/2013 12:09:43 PM EDT

[#35]

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I want a custom Model 98 Mauser with double set triggers, spoon bolt, express sights, and a full length mannlicher stock in 9.3X74R

You'd have a lot better luck with a 9.3x62.

Ah yes, that is what I initially had down. Not sure why I changed it though, I blame old age

Posted: 7/16/2013 12:13:06 PM EDT

[#36]

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what is your definition of a "sporting rifle"?

Something of a classic design, made with the entent to harvest game.

I know a bunch of guys who buy some kind of "going to africa" or "shooting a polar bear" rifle and never do anything with it. If I was just going to own rifles to hunt I doubt I would bother with anything bigger than 308 unless I was making a special trip, THEN I would buy a dangerous game rifle. I just do not see the appeal, to each their own.

I filled that fantasy purchase with my bargain Mannlicher. It has that Old Country look I always wanted, but a caliber which is prudent for North America. It is my primary hunting rifle, but one that I love pulling out of the safe to show off.

I adore this rifle; CZ550 FS in .308

Posted: 7/16/2013 12:27:13 PM EDT

[#37]

I have .338 Win Mag. In a sporting Rifle. Anything in .338 is very good all around cartridge. Should be able to take any game on planet with correct placement. Maybe only 2-3 critters where a .416 may be of advantage and really not all that much. Guides would bitch if you tried to hunt with .338 for those few but you can certainly do it.

Just plain fun. Money no object. .50BMG in Semi-Auto.

Posted: 7/16/2013 12:53:00 PM EDT

[#38]

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what is your definition of a "sporting rifle"?

Something of a classic design, made with the entent to harvest game.

I know a bunch of guys who buy some kind of "going to africa" or "shooting a polar bear" rifle and never do anything with it. If I was just going to own rifles to hunt I doubt I would bother with anything bigger than 308 unless I was making a special trip, THEN I would buy a dangerous game rifle. I just do not see the appeal, to each their own.

this

there is a quantity used to measure recoil called "free recoil energy"

basically, it's just the amount of energy that the rifle would have if it was free to recoil backwards, just like the bullet going one way and the rifle going the other

the free recoil energy is the amount of energy your shoulder has to soak up to stop the rifle

the reason the 30-06 has been so popular for so long is that a hunting weight 30-06 firing a 150 grain bullet develops about 17.5 ft-lbs of free recoil energy

any gun that develops more than about 20 ft-lbs will be uncomfortable for most shooters, make them flinch

those elephant killer type 45-70 loads with 350 and 400 grain bullets will generate free recoil energy of almost 50 ft-lbs.

barrel porting and using a muzzle brake will reduce recoil by a large amount but then you have increased muzzle blast. If you ever shot a heavy 357 mag load out of a 4 inch barrel and then tried the same load in a 6' barrel you will know the difference that muzzle blast can make

I always look at this from the perspective of passing the "paper plate test" at 25 yards with a handgun and 100 yards with a rifle. If you cannot pass the paper plate test with 5 shots, you're basically just wasting your time and money.

Probably you wouldn't want a .585 Nyati, then.

actually, i like weird guns, but i know that I would get sick and tired of sliding those $10 artillery shells into the gun and getting knocked down

I'd try to convince myself that it was fun for a few months, then it would sit in the safe for a year and then get sold

a lot of you guys are still in the "buy more guns" frame of mind

but after you hit the saturation point, you find yourself with a gun safe jammed full of guns

and you pick the same four or five guns to shoot week in and week out while all the 'neato" guns sit unused

Posted: 7/16/2013 1:42:28 PM EDT

[#39]

Two Remington 700s in 308. One set up for hunting/tactical precision shooting, the other set up for f class.

Posted: 7/18/2013 5:49:32 AM EDT

[#40]

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I filled that fantasy purchase with my bargain Mannlicher. It has that Old Country look I always wanted, but a caliber which is prudent for North America. It is my primary hunting rifle, but one that I love pulling out of the safe to show off.

I adore this rifle; CZ550 FS in .308

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what is your definition of a "sporting rifle"?

Something of a classic design, made with the entent to harvest game.

I know a bunch of guys who buy some kind of "going to africa" or "shooting a polar bear" rifle and never do anything with it. If I was just going to own rifles to hunt I doubt I would bother with anything bigger than 308 unless I was making a special trip, THEN I would buy a dangerous game rifle. I just do not see the appeal, to each their own.

I filled that fantasy purchase with my bargain Mannlicher. It has that Old Country look I always wanted, but a caliber which is prudent for North America. It is my primary hunting rifle, but one that I love pulling out of the safe to show off.

I adore this rifle; CZ550 FS in .308

https://czusamedia.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/5a/81/5a812083b6b437b1379c679db379b0f4.png

Damn, I really dig Mannlicher stocks. My Enfield has one and it looks a lot like the Ruger International. CZ makes some fine rifles.

Posted: 7/18/2013 5:56:14 AM EDT

[#41]

Idk, whats the biggest I can get? Yeah! I want that one!

Posted: 7/18/2013 6:29:49 AM EDT

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I don't know your financial situation, but I can assure you that you don't have to be wealthy to experience Africa. You can get plains game in South Africa for around $6k and I've even seen tuskless elephants for not much more than that.

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I've always wanted an express double rifle in .470 or an original .416 Rigby. After owning and hunting with a .338 Win Mag for a number of years, I'd put my personal upper limit at the .375 H&H Mag. That is to say the .375 is the largest caliber I aspire to ever own. I figure that would cover me for African hunting should I ever win the Powerball...lol.

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I don't know your financial situation, but I can assure you that you don't have to be wealthy to experience Africa. You can get plains game in South Africa for around $6k and I've even seen tuskless elephants for not much more than that.

The cheap tuskless elephant hunts I have seen were all non-export. Not only can you not bring meat home, you also don't get to keep your trophy. What's the point?

Posted: 7/23/2013 5:51:29 AM EDT

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The cheap tuskless elephant hunts I have seen were all non-export. Not only can you not bring meat home, you also don't get to keep your trophy. What's the point?

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I've always wanted an express double rifle in .470 or an original .416 Rigby. After owning and hunting with a .338 Win Mag for a number of years, I'd put my personal upper limit at the .375 H&H Mag. That is to say the .375 is the largest caliber I aspire to ever own. I figure that would cover me for African hunting should I ever win the Powerball...lol.

Konger

I don't know your financial situation, but I can assure you that you don't have to be wealthy to experience Africa. You can get plains game in South Africa for around $6k and I've even seen tuskless elephants for not much more than that.

The cheap tuskless elephant hunts I have seen were all non-export. Not only can you not bring meat home, you also don't get to keep your trophy. What's the point?

Going to Africa and hunting an elephant?

Posted: 7/23/2013 8:50:25 AM EDT

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The cheap tuskless elephant hunts I have seen were all non-export. Not only can you not bring meat home, you also don't get to keep your trophy. What's the point?

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I've always wanted an express double rifle in .470 or an original .416 Rigby. After owning and hunting with a .338 Win Mag for a number of years, I'd put my personal upper limit at the .375 H&H Mag. That is to say the .375 is the largest caliber I aspire to ever own. I figure that would cover me for African hunting should I ever win the Powerball...lol.

Konger

I don't know your financial situation, but I can assure you that you don't have to be wealthy to experience Africa. You can get plains game in South Africa for around $6k and I've even seen tuskless elephants for not much more than that.

The cheap tuskless elephant hunts I have seen were all non-export. Not only can you not bring meat home, you also don't get to keep your trophy. What's the point?

Sweet pictures and a story for the ages?

Posted: 7/23/2013 8:53:24 AM EDT

[#45]

While I would still want the custom ZKK-602 in .460 G&A or .505 Burns, that largest I'd want would actually be a nice double in .577 Nitro Express, although as a novelty it'd be neat to have a 4-bore or even a 2-bore.

Posted: 7/23/2013 9:29:51 AM EDT

[#46]

416 Taylor on a custom mauser . . . or a 400 Whelen . . . . or a 404 Jeffrey . . . .

Posted: 7/23/2013 9:33:28 AM EDT

[#47]

Serbu BGF .50 or Barrett M82.

LC

Posted: 7/23/2013 9:40:47 AM EDT

[#48]

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Not .50bmg or .338 lapua?

I personally would like to have a Ruger #1 Tropical in .416 Rigby or a .45-70 in a Marlin Guide Gun.

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Curious, why the stipulation? The largest caliber that is practical for me is something like the .338 Lapua. I wouldn't mind having one.

Posted: 7/23/2013 11:17:18 AM EDT

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Sweet pictures and a story for the ages?

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I've always wanted an express double rifle in .470 or an original .416 Rigby. After owning and hunting with a .338 Win Mag for a number of years, I'd put my personal upper limit at the .375 H&H Mag. That is to say the .375 is the largest caliber I aspire to ever own. I figure that would cover me for African hunting should I ever win the Powerball...lol.

Konger

I don't know your financial situation, but I can assure you that you don't have to be wealthy to experience Africa. You can get plains game in South Africa for around $6k and I've even seen tuskless elephants for not much more than that.

The cheap tuskless elephant hunts I have seen were all non-export. Not only can you not bring meat home, you also don't get to keep your trophy. What's the point?

Sweet pictures and a story for the ages?

Basically, that and it is probably one of the more thrilling and dangerous hunts in the world. Almost all tuskless elephants are cows. Not only are they protective of their own offspring,but of the rest of the young in the herd and are generally considered to be more temperamental than bulls. This means you have to go into the cow herds to ID a cow w/o a calf, understanding that all of the cows will be aggressive. Then you must shoot & scoot (being sure not to hit the wrong cow) all without getting stomped in the process. Yeah, you'll have a story to tell for sure!