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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:17:46 PM EST
[#1]
.338 win mag or .45-70
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:19:15 PM EST
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Who has the IP for the old Cobb magnum length actions?
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:19:30 PM EST
[#3]
458 SOCOM
Something in 30-06 12 Ga shotgun with Berneke slugs. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:20:19 PM EST
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:21:43 PM EST
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Browning BAR in .338 WM.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:21:55 PM EST
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Browning BAR in 300 or 338
the 300 is a sweet shooter. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:23:17 PM EST
[#7]
12 gauge with slugs Alaska Sate Troopers style.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:23:22 PM EST
[#8]
AR in 338 Federal or 358 Win .
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:23:36 PM EST
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:24:51 PM EST
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A .308 AR10 will do the job if you insist on a semi auto...
Personally I'd recommend an elephant gun...one shot, one kill. 
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:25:44 PM EST
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Get one of those Garands converted to 458 win mag?
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:26:27 PM EST
[#12]
Nemo Omen 458 Winchester mag:
https://youtu.be/QcnoFE7Dc68 I bet if one were really serious, Falkor could throw together a 375 for you. The Bighorn 500 automax would be easier to lay hands on and it's plenty of gun too. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:28:53 PM EST
[#13]
An Official Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:29:52 PM EST
[#14]
12 ga with slugs
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:30:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An Official Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle Why would you want to just shoot the bear's eye out? |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:30:47 PM EST
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:30:57 PM EST
[#17]
I’d rather be able to put a lot of decent rounds on target quickly if your talking about self defense from bears and not hunting.
Give me some decently hot .308 in a 20rd mag from a 16” AR10 with a decent quick acquisition optic. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:31:17 PM EST
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10mm
1st to say it. 
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:33:09 PM EST
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Garand in 9.3x62, maybe. .338-06 or .35 Whelen, or something like at, with appropriate RN solids, could work, too, although I've only seen the first one.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:33:47 PM EST
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:34:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 458 SOCOM Something in 30-06 12 Ga shotgun with Berneke slugs. This |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:34:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A .308 AR10 will do the job if you insist on a semi auto... Personally I'd recommend an elephant gun...one shot, one kill. I've got a .416 rem mag that was put together for a brown bear guide in alaska. But it is a bolt gun. I am very highly confident the fast .400 grain bullets would smash up stuff. But, it's a bolt gun. Loaded down it is my go-to gun. But it will definitely fix problems with elephant bullets. You really think a .308 is perfectly adequate for brown bear? I have no idea. I just like to err on the side of caution. It's why I bought the .416 rem. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:34:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d rather be able to put a lot of decent rounds on target quickly if your talking about self defense from bears and not hunting. Give me some decently hot .308 in a 20rd mag from a 16” AR10 with a decent quick acquisition optic. I think people overestimate how many accurate rounds they can get off in a charge. A double rifle might even be sufficient. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:36:42 PM EST
[#24]
12 gauge slugs, gets the job done.
Or you could hire this guy....  KARATE BEAR |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:36:47 PM EST
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An M107A1 chambered in Barrett 416 could kill anything in North America you could lay eyes on. But that’s a heavy rifle.
Depending on your definition of longer shots on lighter game, a realistic candidate would be an AR10 in 45 Raptor or one of the 338Lapua AR-variants. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:37:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d rather be able to put a lot of decent rounds on target quickly if your talking about self defense from bears and not hunting. Give me some decently hot .308 in a 20rd mag from a 16” AR10 with a decent quick acquisition optic. If a .308 is a reliable bear stopper then that has to be the gun. It will reach out just fine for stuff like elk and deer. And it can change jobs with a mere magazine change. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:40:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThat right there, that would do it. I wasn't aware that exists. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:41:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThat really is a good looking gun. All things considered I'll bet it is easy to carry around compared to others. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:45:49 PM EST
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For bear defense, unless the bear is attacking someone else, anything over 100yds and you're going to have some explaining to do. 50yds to 100yds depend on who's writing the report.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:47:16 PM EST
[#30]
Quoted: AR in 338 Federal or 358 Win . POF Rogue in .358 would be a handy package, I don't know if they can be re-barreled though. Someone here said their Alaska city pd has .450BM ARs in their cars. I don't think there's a lot of hardcast ammo in that round but maybe that doesn't matter. I saw a video a while back young hunter DRTing a grizzly with a hollow point .50B. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:48:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI was going to post this.  remember reading the magazine article back in the day. Can't recall what magazine.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 2:55:21 PM EST
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:00:11 PM EST
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Likely a Barrett 338lm, most reliable S/A rifle you will find..RND did build some 300 rum semi autos, they were supposed to be bad ass, but they have shut down as far as I can tell..
this is an RND 300Rum....  Attached FileMost likely you would be better off building a nice bolt action rifle and practice on it.. My hunting rifle, Tenacity action, MPA chassis, bartlein barrel chambered in 300rum..  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:01:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think people overestimate how many accurate rounds they can get off in a charge. A double rifle might even be sufficient. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’d rather be able to put a lot of decent rounds on target quickly if your talking about self defense from bears and not hunting. Give me some decently hot .308 in a 20rd mag from a 16” AR10 with a decent quick acquisition optic. I think people overestimate how many accurate rounds they can get off in a charge. A double rifle might even be sufficient. 2 misses/non-vitals and you’re done. Most people aren’t used to shooting under stress either. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:03:31 PM EST
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For me it would be a .308 on the low end. Good thing its a semi so at least you'll have a few followups if you need them.
The bigger the better if you're talking about a one shot stop. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:06:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That really is a good looking gun. All things considered I'll bet it is easy to carry around compared to others. Yep very nice, but remember, any S/A rifle is going to outweigh a bolt gun by a good bit...Any semi auto may end up being a pig to pack hunting... |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:06:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AR in 338 Federal or 358 Win . This... |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:10:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For me it would be a .308 on the low end. Good thing its a semi so at least you'll have a few followups if you need them. The bigger the better if you're talking about a one shot stop. I would want bigger than 308 against a big brownie...especially in a spitting distance alder patch..A good friend who spent most of his adult life guiding kodiak brown bear hunts on Kodiak Island has tried a pile of cartridges for a one shot point blank stop a big bear in its tracks..his choice......505 Gibbs... |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:10:36 PM EST
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A .308 should do just fine. It’s a Bear, not a Cape Buffalo. A single.308 should have no problem killing one, and a mag dump of 5+ rounds should drop any bear on Earth. It’s not the best, but I would figure adequate.
I would be curious what a 5.56 would do. A string of fire, I would assume, would kill a bear just fine as well. Personally, my Beretta 1301 with slugs would be my choice in bear country. Light weight, fast, easy to put a lot of slugs down range. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:12:26 PM EST
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Defensive use, meaning something easy to manipulate but still packs enough punch to put down a big brown, .458 SOCOM/.450BM/.350 Legend/12GA. Any of those with a decent projectile would put serious hurt on any bear while being lightweight and easy to get on target quickly.
A .308-size AR would work well too, if set up correctly. .308/.375 Raptor/.338 Federal/etc. would do just fine. The guys posting semi auto .300/.338 Magnums and such... sure, for hunting while stationary. I'd much rather pack my lightweight .458 SOCOM. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:13:55 PM EST
[#41]
Any .308 loaded with a sturdy bullet will kill a brown or polar bear. I’d do 180 grain Barnes. Plenty of penetration, good expansion.
.30-06 is better. 300 Win also. But .308 would get the job done. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:14:24 PM EST
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Quote History$3k BIN seems quite reasonable. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:17:59 PM EST
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:18:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $3k BIN seems quite reasonable. Even better deal on a used one (NY compliant) https://www.gunbroker.com/item/941034212 |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:19:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get one of those Garands converted to 458 win mag? Came here to post this. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:19:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would want bigger than 308 against a big brownie...especially in a spitting distance alder patch..A good friend who spent most of his adult life guiding kodiak brown bear hunts on Kodiak Island has tried a pile of cartridges for a one shot point blank stop a big bear in its tracks..his choice......505 Gibbs... Phil? |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:23:25 PM EST
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Semi 308 can be had much cheaper than any 45-70 these days. Until ruger ramps up production, lever guns are going to be priced at ridiculously inflated levels.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:26:41 PM EST
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I have changed my answer with a mythic gun from my youth...
The Ithaca Roadblocker in 10 gauge Magnum   HUGE 10 gauge Sawed off Shotgun ROADBLOCKER Ithaca |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:28:01 PM EST
[#49]
For the brownies around me I carry a ar-15.
Other wise it is ak or 45/70. Kodiak and the big kenai brownies 338wm-45-70. |
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:28:25 PM EST
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Barrett 50BMG obviously, haha
 But yeah at minimum a 308 like an AR-10. I mean 25rd mags and just unload on the beast!! Maybe a Garand 30-06 or BAR 30-06 |
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