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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:50:47 PM EDT
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For what its worth Ed Bolian is selling off his entire collection
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:52:43 PM EDT
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For that money - Audi R8 V10 Plus in Suzuka Grey, with Premium package, Red Interior and Blacked out Wheels... and I did. :)

Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:54:44 PM EDT
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For that money - Audi R8 V10 Plus in Suzuka Grey, with Premium package, Red Interior and Blacked out Wheels... and I did. :)

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Beautiful, what's up top?

@smtgwkd
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:59:38 PM EDT
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My wife's car - may be more fun to have folks guess.  I'd wager for the right car buff it'll take about 2 trys. ;)
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:04:42 PM EDT
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wow I knew the viper numbers were low...but not that low
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Yup… don’t have the total handy but the entire run of Vipers from 1992 to 2017 is about 30k… or less than a single year of Corvette production.   How many survive is another question?

In that list where you see very small numbers, those are holdovers from previous model years.  There were no Viper models for 2007, 2011, 2012 and the line stopped for good in 2017.  


Why did it end?  A variety of factors but the Hellcat is one.  They also had a “packaging issue” that limited transmission options and thus additional engine upgrades.   They really wanted to consider an automatic transmission to broaden the appeal but it wasn’t going to fit without a lot of rework.

Anyway, great cars, rare and only increasing in value.  Lots of garage queens to be had and more than a few rebuilt multiple times

The Gen V (2013-2017) was certainly the nicest by a good margin with the leather interior and electronic upgrades.  Gen 4 (2008-2010) are similar but no electronics to speak of but antilock brakes and a nice but not fancy interior.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:04:44 PM EDT
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To be honest...I would buy 2

2005+ Viper
AMG GT-R

Those are going to turn more heads and give you more fun that any 911, since all 911 fuckin look like every other boxster and 911 on the road.
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Many of us drive sports cars for the way they drive, not who looks at us.

I've got an old air cooled 911 that isn't terribly fast, but handles great.

I'd just dump more money into my old car and maybe buy a 914 to restore and put a 911 motor in it.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:08:24 PM EDT
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Many of us drive sports cars for the way they drive, not who looks at us.

I've got an old air cooled 911 that isn't terribly fast, but handles great.

I'd just dump more money into my old car and maybe buy a 914 to restore and put a 911 motor in it.
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This. I’ve grown out of the phase of my life in which I wanted to turn heads. Oh, and 99.9% of those turning heads are male anyway. Trying to impress others with a car is lame as hell imo.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:14:52 PM EDT
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My wife's car - may be more fun to have folks guess.  I'd wager for the right car buff it'll take about 2 trys. ;)
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Kinda looks McLarenish to me.   720 S
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:20:37 PM EDT
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My wife's car - may be more fun to have folks guess.  I'd wager for the right car buff it'll take about 2 trys. ;)
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Lines suggest McLaren, maybe a 765LT?
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:26:34 PM EDT
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Kinda looks McLarenish to me.   720 S
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Or 1 try!  Well done.  720 S Spider in Volcano Red.

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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:30:27 PM EDT
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Mazda Miata, spend the rest of it in aftermarket parts
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:45:46 PM EDT
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If anyone is curious, here are the US sales numbers of Vipers and 911s.  (I got curious )

Year - sold
2005 - 1,652
2006 - 1,455
2007 - 435
2008 - 1,172
2009 - 482
2010 - 392
2011 - 197
2012 - 20
2013 - 591
2014 - 760
2015 - 676
2016 - 626
2017 - 585
2018 - 19
2019 - 5
2020 - 6
2021 - 6

Year - sold
2005 - 10,107
2006 - 12,045
2007 - 12,493
2008 - 8,324
2009 - 6,839
2010 - 5,736
2011 - 6,016
2012 - 8,528
2013 - 10,142
2014 - 9,707
2015 - 12,904
2016 - 8,901
2017 - 8,970
2018 - 9,783
2019 - 9,265
2020 - 8,839
2021 - 9,167

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Those numbers only include the low selling gen 4/5 SRTs.  Previous gen Vipers sold 26,000 cars.  The main reason you don't commonly see Vipers [compared to God's sports car, the 911] is because they're the exact opposite of a car you want to drive on the street.  It's like driving a John Deere kit car made from Dodge Neon parts - especially the first 2 gens which sold the most.  It's a job to drive it to the gas station, so instead you use a 1 gal gas can to fuel it in your garage.  Cars & Coffee not located inside your gated community on a perfect day?  F"k that, take the golf cart and wear the Viper Club hat.

Friend of mine has a rare 2017 ACR-Extreme.  Bought for only $95K 2 years ago.  Valued at $330K now.  Lol.  I haven't even sat in it as it only gets driven 30 feet a month.  Looks super sexy parked tho!  

As for sales #'s, thought I'd throw this up to compare.



Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:48:25 PM EDT
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Vipers are basically the car that “car guys” describe when asked what they want. Just a raw beast with “no nanny bullshit.”

But when it was available none of them bought it
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 5:29:15 PM EDT
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My budget was a 1/3 of yours, but got this a few weeks ago as a Christmas gift to myself for just under 50k.  Porsche 981 Cayman S, the last of the NA flat 6 engines.  My opinion Caymans are better then 911s, mid engine and the S and GT Caymans have slightly detuned 911 engines that you can retune and have a superior car for half the price.

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GT4 is the last of the flat 6's for the cayman line...
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 5:36:08 PM EDT
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That's kind of a meaningless statement.  I can think of lots of cars that are rarer than 911s.  After all, 911s ARE a realistic daily driver, compared to most other hardcore sports cars.  I am not sure ANYONE daily drives a Lambo or Ferrari.

911s are everywhere COMPARED to Ford Model A's as well.   Doesn't mean the Model A is a great car, and it doesn't mean 911s are "a dime a dozen"

I live in one of the highest-income counties in the U.S. (with two of the other top-five counties within spitting distance), and I might see ONE other 911 if I am out driving ... to say they are a dime a dozen is silly, IMO.
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I know someone who DD's a Lamborghini Huracan which is AWD even here in Montreal winters.
Some new AWD Ferrari's also.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 5:42:50 PM EDT
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My wife's Panamera has an ass and big hips that midcap should appreciate as well.  

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Fuck the 'noles..

Go Gators
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 5:49:12 PM EDT
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Yes please...

I was 90% of the way towards buying a Type 65 Coupe for the dart based 331 sitting in my garage.

Being in Ca and trying to get an SB100 smog exemption was questionable in 2015.

I was starting to look at options like a 996/997 911 but mileage and history was sketchy.

I was looking at Gen 3 and Gen 4 Vipers but they were just beginning to go back up in value.   Also potential for sketch history.

Wound up getting an S550 GT when I wanted a GT350.  Bad compromise that I only know now 6 years later with barely 14k miles on the car.   Was looking at 12-13 Boss 302s as well as C6 grandsports as well, think either of those would have made me happier.

The 66 is the unsophisticated angry asshole of a car I wanted with the Type 65 Coupe build I was considering.  I am just heavier wirh the 66 Coupe versus a 65 Daytona.

I should have just pulled the trigger back then on a 65-70 Mustang and gone Maier Racing or other options to start building what I lusted for.    Options were not as good in 2015 as today so probably best that I waited.

Hoping to some day find a 69/70 sportroof and do it all over again with same suspension but with a 351 based stroker and 315s on all 4 corners.

Link Posted: 1/10/2022 6:10:10 PM EDT
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Viper -

Pulled up to a red light on a viper in my dodge caravan minivan with 4 kids, some in car seats, many years ago.

Started to rev my 2006 3.8 L EGH V6 engine and make eye contact with the guys in the viper.  Viper dudes respond in kind, rev their engine.   Kids were having a blast with the idea of a race.

Green light I launch that caravan off the line.  Dodge Viper dude dumps the clutch and stalls the car.  Kids are ECSTATIC as we pull away leaving them in the dust...
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 6:12:11 PM EDT
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Miata is always the answer. Could make hell of a monster with $150k
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 6:18:45 PM EDT
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Fully built fd with a 26b
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 6:28:45 PM EDT
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Miata is always the answer. Could make hell of a monster with $150k
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Fine...   3 rotor FD RX7 or an LS swapped RX7....



For the OP...


150k could get him into a NICE Super Performance Daytona Cpupe with a 427 Roush engine.  Marked difference between a somewhat sad Factory Five kit and a well done Super Performance kit that is build using the Shelby jigs and qualify for the Continuation Series.

But terribly cramped pedal box being cooked by headers may not be his cup of tea.

Link Posted: 1/10/2022 7:09:48 PM EDT
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Ducati Panigale V4 Superleggera.

234hp.

This is on a bike with a claimed 336lb dry weight thanks to carbon fiber frame, wheels, swingarm and bodywork plus a bunch of magnesium and titanium bits.

I'd use the leftover money for gear (including bespoke Dainese leathers, natch), a bunch of tires and consumables, and a trailer to get it to track days.

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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 7:14:44 PM EDT
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You might be interested in this t-shirt.  Unless you are gay.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.    


Link Posted: 1/10/2022 7:19:03 PM EDT
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You should bump up the budget
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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 7:19:48 PM EDT
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C8 ZO6 Id say...
One of my GT350's may be sacrificed for a healthy downpayment on one .
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 8:17:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 8:19:47 PM EDT
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Easy, Dodge Viper ACR, but I would even be happy with just any Viper
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 9:05:43 PM EDT
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Or 1 try!  Well done.  720 S Spider in Volcano Red.

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nice!  That hood line and those round hips give it away.  Even under cover.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 9:16:43 PM EDT
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GT4 is the last of the flat 6's for the cayman line...
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Not true. The GTS has the 4.0 flat 6 as well.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 9:58:18 PM EDT
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Many of us drive sports cars for the way they drive, not who looks at us.

I've got an old air cooled 911 that isn't terribly fast, but handles great.

I'd just dump more money into my old car and maybe buy a 914 to restore and put a 911 motor in it.
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c'mon....
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 9:59:36 PM EDT
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For that money - Audi R8 V10 Plus in Suzuka Grey, with Premium package, Red Interior and Blacked out Wheels... and I did. :)

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Send it to hank.

Brutal IROZ MOTORSPORT Audi R8 8.04s @1/4 mile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPIbedY-0MQ
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 10:41:29 PM EDT
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Ducati Panigale V4 Superleggera.

234hp.

This is on a bike with a claimed 336lb dry weight thanks to carbon fiber frame, wheels, swingarm and bodywork plus a bunch of magnesium and titanium bits.

I'd use the leftover money for gear (including bespoke Dainese leathers, natch), a bunch of tires and consumables, and a trailer to get it to track days.

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that bike is just breathtaking.  I don't have the skill to wring its neck,  but I'd love to lean it over just a little bit.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 10:49:31 PM EDT
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with a $!50,000 budget I'd buy a M134 mini gun or some MP5s and a Ma Deuce, but enjoy your car
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150k would make a nice down payment on the M134, maybe 25%?
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 11:22:58 PM EDT
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Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite

You'd be cool in the 60's driving around in one of these. Probably still be cool driving around making people wonder what it is.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 12:07:04 AM EDT
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Should save more to get something decent instead of some crap for 150k. Like a nice Lamborghini Aventador, 2022 models start out around 500k. Or get a nice electric like the Lotus Evija around 2.3 million.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 12:10:44 AM EDT
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GT3 if you can find one for $150k.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 12:11:24 AM EDT
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Aventador is slow now though.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 12:15:44 AM EDT
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911 of some flavour
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Aventador is slow now though.
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Should save more to get something decent instead of some crap for 150k. Like a nice Lamborghini Aventador, 2022 models start out around 500k. Or get a nice electric like the Lotus Evija around 2.3 million.

Aventador is slow now though.




DRAG RACE. Full Launch Control! Porsche Taycan Turbo S vs Lamborghini Aventador SV
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 1:37:48 AM EDT
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To all the plaid people... Can the plaid stay on a track for more than 15 minutes without a 20 minute recharge while pushing hard? will the brakes not over heat on the second lap? the batteries? can it exceed 150mph? How does it handle at high speed in corners?
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 1:54:21 AM EDT
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You're thinking too small bud, just buy Porsche AG for $20 billion, get outta here with these chump change ideas.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 2:07:03 AM EDT
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Honda type R, 3 of them.
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This right here all day long.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1133968_hear-the-2023-chevrolet-corvette-z06-s-flat-plane-crank-v-8-scream-to-8-600-rpm


Link Posted: 1/11/2022 2:27:22 AM EDT
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Had OP even replied?  It's been 6 pages and a few days.
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Those are going to turn more heads and give you more fun that any 911, since all 911 fuckin look like every other boxster and 911 on the road.
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My gripe as well
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 3:58:35 AM EDT
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NOW you are talking. I love those Porsches.
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I asked a similar question 5 years ago.

What could I get that was the most fun, best handling, fastest with a manual transmission (a must). My budget was $100,000, about the same as today when you consider the premiums dealers are asking and getting.


A new 2017 C7 Zo6 Zo7 was a touch over my budget but well worth it. It is not a daily but now has 96,000 miles, lots of track days and a shit ton of fun times with it. If I could do it over I wouldn't do anything different.

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I would say a C7 also. ZR1 maybe.
Link Posted: 1/11/2022 4:06:31 AM EDT
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Vipers are basically the car that “car guys” describe when asked what they want. Just a raw beast with “no nanny bullshit.”

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I am a true car guy and a Viper isn’t ANYWHERE on my list. Porsche GT3 would an excellent buy but not for 150K. Corvette C7,Z06 or ZR1. I’m a ZR1 fan.
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no 911s are everywhere compared to vipers


That doesn't make them a dime a dozen.

It's also not apples to apples since the Viper stopped production in 2017.  Viper had a production run of 25 years and the 911 is nearly 60 years of production.


and the viper had a real engine and not some fancy subaru engine



You should appreciate 911's, they THICC from behind......


That is a really good point.  

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That thing is pure SEXY. I want a Porsche so bad but I want a GT3. I will just keep dreaming. My Corvettes will have to do for now. I love watching Rally Racing when they have the Porsches run. They had me at hello.
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Might as well go big and get a 1983 Vette.
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