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Posted: 12/9/2022 4:46:41 AM EDT
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I watched one with a rabbit.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 4:53:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: It just occurred to me that when I was a kid there was a man dressed in drag on TV on a show that my parents watched. It was called M.A.S.H. and the character was called Klinger. I always hated that show and never thought Klinger was funny. This was a long time ago. We only had three channels, so not much selection I guess. For some reason I don’t remember much thought or debate about it at the time. My parents were conservative Republicans. Seems odd now that I think of it. In case you don't remember the details, he chose to be a cross dresser because he wanted people to think he was mentally ill. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 4:55:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In case you don't remember the details, he chose to be a cross dresser because he wanted people to think he was mentally ill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It just occurred to me that when I was a kid there was a man dressed in drag on TV on a show that my parents watched. It was called M.A.S.H. and the character was called Klinger. I always hated that show and never thought Klinger was funny. This was a long time ago. We only had three channels, so not much selection I guess. For some reason I don’t remember much thought or debate about it at the time. My parents were conservative Republicans. Seems odd now that I think of it. In case you don't remember the details, he chose to be a cross dresser because he wanted people to think he was mentally ill. Thanks, no, I don’t remember the details. Just that I didn’t really like the show. And all of the drag queen talk in GD reminded me of it. Maybe I’d find it funny now as an adult. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 4:57:27 AM EDT
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He was trying to convince them he was cuckoo, because until recently, it meant you were cuckoo, and that would have gotten him discharged and shipped back to good ol' Toledo!
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Posted: 12/9/2022 4:58:02 AM EDT
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Bosom Buddies was another one...
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Posted: 12/9/2022 4:59:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bosom Buddies was another one... That might have been before my time. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:03:26 AM EDT
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 Some Like It Hot (2/11) Movie CLIP - Sugar Kane (1959) HD Its been a joke for a long time... |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:10:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI wonder why. I think it just doesn’t appeal to my sense of humor. I’ve never been to a drag show and can’t imagine I’d find it funny. I don’t think I’d be outraged or anything, but it seems like it would be a waste of time and not entertaining to me. And I think I have a pretty good sense of humor. Or at least I like to laugh and do so often. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:13:07 AM EDT
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Jack on Three's company had to pretend he was gay so he wouldn't get evicted.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:14:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That might have been before my time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bosom Buddies was another one... That might have been before my time. They dressed as women to get cheap rent at a women-only apartment. The only tv show guy in drag I can recall was on the Drew Carey show, and it wasn't Mimi. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:16:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jack on Three's company had to pretend he was gay so he wouldn't get evicted. I remember that one. Didn’t remember that he was acting gay. Actually I probably didn’t ever catch onto it because I didn’t know what gay was at that age. The first show with gay people that I remember was much later. Called Will and Grace. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:19:07 AM EDT
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 Attached FileBorrowed this from another thread. Klinger character just wanted to go home. The show itself was super left and it showed. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:20:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, no, I don’t remember the details. Just that I didn’t really like the show. And all of the drag queen talk in GD reminded me of it. Maybe I’d find it funny now as an adult. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It just occurred to me that when I was a kid there was a man dressed in drag on TV on a show that my parents watched. It was called M.A.S.H. and the character was called Klinger. I always hated that show and never thought Klinger was funny. This was a long time ago. We only had three channels, so not much selection I guess. For some reason I don’t remember much thought or debate about it at the time. My parents were conservative Republicans. Seems odd now that I think of it. In case you don't remember the details, he chose to be a cross dresser because he wanted people to think he was mentally ill. Thanks, no, I don’t remember the details. Just that I didn’t really like the show. And all of the drag queen talk in GD reminded me of it. Maybe I’d find it funny now as an adult. It's debatable how funny mash is... Some of the banter is quite good but the actual jokes can be pretty bad. Watching it again now I think you'll be surprised by how non-woke it is and the theme of gallows humour in the face of the awfulness of war will definitely resonate with you more as an adult. That's the bit you definitely missed as a kid (mortality usually doesn't sink in until you're rather older). |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:21:25 AM EDT
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I watched MASH as a young child, so I have an incomplete memory of the characters and nuance of the show, but my recollection is that aside from regular outbursts designed to get attention Klinger was hard-working and well-grounded. One of the themes of his character was that he tried to act crazy to escape the war, but in doing so made the argument that no sane person would want to be part of it. You could argue that by protesting and trying to go home without hurting anyone, he was the most sane person there.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:22:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In case you don't remember the details, he chose to be a cross dresser because he wanted people to think he was mentally ill. Right, so not drag. He´s pretending to be mentally insane so it makes sense that him, a man, would dress like a woman. Ironically enough, you now have men in the military that arent pretending, but trully are mentally ill and dress accordingly too. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:25:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right, so not drag. He´s pretending to be mentally insane so it makes sense that him, a man, would dress like a woman. Ironically enough, you now have men in the military that arent pretending, but trully are mentally ill and dress accordingly too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In case you don't remember the details, he chose to be a cross dresser because he wanted people to think he was mentally ill. Right, so not drag. He´s pretending to be mentally insane so it makes sense that him, a man, would dress like a woman. Ironically enough, you now have men in the military that arent pretending, but trully are mentally ill and dress accordingly too. I just have to ask, is the the same Ferfal? Back from the grave? Or a new Ferfal? Noting that MiamiJBT and IronhandJohn are back too and even Sylvan. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:36:12 AM EDT
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If you get a chance watch the M*A*S*H movie that the TV series was based on. It was a brilliant comedy film that was much better than the show.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:38:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched one with a rabbit. 
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:43:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I watched one with a rabbit. https://i0.wp.com/www.homosensual.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/bugs-bunny-drag-4.jpg Lol, that one I did find funny at the time. Cartoons were so much better then. Way more violent when you consider it. Not graphic with blood, but compare Looney Toons to Peppa Pig or whatever kids watch these days. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:48:51 AM EDT
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I knew this guy named Shakespeare who wrote a few stage plays...
Pretty much all the female characters were played by men dressed up as women... |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:49:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just have to ask, is the the same Ferfal? Back from the grave? Or a new Ferfal? Noting that MiamiJBT and IronhandJohn are back too and even Sylvan. You'll know in thec1st circumcision or cosleeping thread that pops up, if it is him. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:49:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: shipped back to good ol' Toledo! Mudhens!! |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:50:30 AM EDT
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Those of us old enough to have watch MASH as an adult, Klinger was cross dressing and not in drag. There's a difference, he didn't wear make up and he wasn't self-identifying as a women or complaining of being misgendered. The thing was that in that period Klinger could have been discharged from the Army if he said he was gay, he was offered that route out several times but he refused because that would on his discharge papers and being straight didn't want that.
Whole joke was straight guy in a dress pretending to be crazy to get out of the Army. Also old enough to have seen the film with my wife that the series was based on. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:53:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those of us old enough to have watch MASH as an adult, Klinger was cross dressing and not in drag. There's a difference, he didn't wear make up and he wasn't self-identifying as a women or complaining of being misgendered. The thing was that in that period Klinger could have been discharged from the Army if he said he was gay, he was offered that route out several times but he refused because that would on his discharge papers and being straight didn't want that. Whole joke was straight guy in a dress pretending to be crazy to get out of the Army. Also old enough to have seen the film with my wife that the series was based on. Tbh, I didn’t know that cross dressing and drag were different things until now. I always thought they were the same. I’ve learned my one new thing of the day  |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 5:54:37 AM EDT
[#25]
Tony Curtis Jack Lemon...
1959... "Some like it Hot" Main stream drag has been around a long time. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 6:05:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In case you don't remember the details, he chose to be a cross dresser because he wanted people to think he was mentally ill. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 6:12:34 AM EDT
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But he was consider a freak at the time, now it the new normal.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 6:19:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tbh, I didn’t know that cross dressing and drag were different things until now. I always thought they were the same. I’ve learned my one new thing of the day Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Those of us old enough to have watch MASH as an adult, Klinger was cross dressing and not in drag. There's a difference, he didn't wear make up and he wasn't self-identifying as a women or complaining of being misgendered. The thing was that in that period Klinger could have been discharged from the Army if he said he was gay, he was offered that route out several times but he refused because that would on his discharge papers and being straight didn't want that. Whole joke was straight guy in a dress pretending to be crazy to get out of the Army. Also old enough to have seen the film with my wife that the series was based on. Tbh, I didn’t know that cross dressing and drag were different things until now. I always thought they were the same. I’ve learned my one new thing of the day I think I just learned something I didn't want to know. 
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Posted: 12/9/2022 6:24:57 AM EDT
[#29]
He was trying to make people believe that he was insane.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 6:36:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis is how you get furries. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 6:40:59 AM EDT
[#31]
Monty python's flying circus was another one.
They dressed in drag from time to time. I'm thinking if you are doing as part of a comedy routine then it's not wrong. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 6:41:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember that one. Didn’t remember that he was acting gay. Actually I probably didn’t ever catch onto it because I didn’t know what gay was at that age. The first show with gay people that I remember was much later. Called Will and Grace. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Jack on Three's company had to pretend he was gay so he wouldn't get evicted. I remember that one. Didn’t remember that he was acting gay. Actually I probably didn’t ever catch onto it because I didn’t know what gay was at that age. The first show with gay people that I remember was much later. Called Will and Grace. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 6:51:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:15:25 AM EDT
[#34]
 The Fall Guy with Tom Selleck and Lee Majors |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:17:40 AM EDT
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Also, FWIW, the opening credits of MASH were that era's equivalent of Pornhub.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:18:20 AM EDT
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HELL, I remember Uncle Milty dressing in drag..
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:22:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched MASH as a young child, so I have an incomplete memory of the characters and nuance of the show, but my recollection is that aside from regular outbursts designed to get attention Klinger was hard-working and well-grounded. One of the themes of his character was that he tried to act crazy to escape the war, but in doing so made the argument that no sane person would want to be part of it. You could argue that by protesting and trying to go home without hurting anyone, he was the most sane person there. Catch-22. Literally, that's the theme of the book. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:26:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HELL, I remember Uncle Milty dressing in drag..  I got that reference. 
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:26:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, FWIW, the opening credits of MASH were that era's equivalent of Pornhub. It was the 1970s, not the 1790s. The "era" of Deep Throat and plenty of other actual porn. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:28:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In case you don't remember the details, he chose to be a cross dresser because he wanted people to think he was mentally ill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It just occurred to me that when I was a kid there was a man dressed in drag on TV on a show that my parents watched. It was called M.A.S.H. and the character was called Klinger. I always hated that show and never thought Klinger was funny. This was a long time ago. We only had three channels, so not much selection I guess. For some reason I don’t remember much thought or debate about it at the time. My parents were conservative Republicans. Seems odd now that I think of it. In case you don't remember the details, he chose to be a cross dresser because he wanted people to think he was mentally ill. That’s a bingo. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:29:42 AM EDT
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Once it became clear it was a lost cause, he eventually stopped.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:34:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder why. I think it just doesn’t appeal to my sense of humor. I’ve never been to a drag show and can’t imagine I’d find it funny. I don’t think I’d be outraged or anything, but it seems like it would be a waste of time and not entertaining to me. And I think I have a pretty good sense of humor. Or at least I like to laugh and do so often. Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder why. I think it just doesn’t appeal to my sense of humor. I’ve never been to a drag show and can’t imagine I’d find it funny. I don’t think I’d be outraged or anything, but it seems like it would be a waste of time and not entertaining to me. And I think I have a pretty good sense of humor. Or at least I like to laugh and do so often. Would you take your kids to one though? |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:39:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tony Curtis Jack Lemon... 1959... "Some like it Hot" Main stream drag has been around a long time. Actors were never held in as high esteem as they are these days, until Hollywood they were basically considered lowlifes |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:42:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: It just occurred to me that when I was a kid there was a man dressed in drag on TV on a show that my parents watched. It was called M.A.S.H. and the character was called Klinger. I always hated that show and never thought Klinger was funny. This was a long time ago. We only had three channels, so not much selection I guess. For some reason I don’t remember much thought or debate about it at the time. My parents were conservative Republicans. Seems odd now that I think of it. But Klinger was trying to show he was nuts, so he could get a section 8 discharge from the army |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:44:08 AM EDT
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The difference is that it used to be something to be made fun of and laughed at.
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:49:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was the 1970s, not the 1790s. The "era" of Deep Throat and plenty of other actual porn. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Also, FWIW, the opening credits of MASH were that era's equivalent of Pornhub. It was the 1970s, not the 1790s. The "era" of Deep Throat and plenty of other actual porn. And how accessible was that porn to the general public? I mean, I was a kid through all of the 70s. I think it was well into the 80s before I came across my first cast off Playboy lying discarded somewhere. It didn't permeate the culture in quite the same way was my point. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:49:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched MASH as a young child, so I have an incomplete memory of the characters and nuance of the show, but my recollection is that aside from regular outbursts designed to get attention Klinger was hard-working and well-grounded. One of the themes of his character was that he tried to act crazy to escape the war, but in doing so made the argument that no sane person would want to be part of it. You could argue that by protesting and trying to go home without hurting anyone, he was the most sane person there. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:53:08 AM EDT
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MASH was the result of the 1971 slaughter of rural television programming after congress wrote more laws controlling content.
Even as a 12-year old the liberal content was disturbing to me. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 7:57:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Monty python's flying circus was another one. They dressed in drag from time to time. I'm thinking if you are doing as part of a comedy routine then it's not wrong. British humor was weird. |
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Posted: 12/9/2022 8:00:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder why. I think it just doesn’t appeal to my sense of humor. I’ve never been to a drag show and can’t imagine I’d find it funny. I don’t think I’d be outraged or anything, but it seems like it would be a waste of time and not entertaining to me. And I think I have a pretty good sense of humor. Or at least I like to laugh and do so often. After seeing grown men with makeup, dresses and wigs on (in the regular world), if you're anything like the rest of us, you'll just find it sad and pathetic. And then you'll be glad you're relatively normal, and that hopefully none of those defects work in your school district. |
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