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Posted: 12/13/2019 3:47:20 PM EDT
... being "on the spectrum"? Aren't they either autistic or not? Is "on the spectrum" just a euphemism to make mommies feel better? I understand there are different degrees of autism, so maybe that's what the "spectrum" is about. There are degrees of the common cold, too, so if your kid has a cold, is he "on the cold spectrum"?
I'm not being rude or insensitive ... I'm just reacting to the double-talk and feel-good language we seem to have to have these days. I never heard the phrase "on the spectrum" until about a year ago, so is it a change in the disorder or just a change in terminology? |
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iirc, the definition in the DSM changed because autism is manifested "on a spectrum" and isn't binary like "you're infected with rhinovirus" or "you're not infected with rhinovirus"
It's not feel-good, it's a more accurate description of autism, because many people are "autistic" but wholly functional, while others are cripplingly autistic |
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It's one in the same. Saying "on the spectrum" just implies (rightly so) that there are many levels of functioning with autism.
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The last DSM had several diagnoses, including Autism, Asperger's, Rett's Disorder, Childhood Disintegrative Disorder and PDD-NOS (Has the symptoms of one or more of the other diagnoses but doesn't meet the criteria for any of them).
DSM-V acknowledges that Autism manifests on a spectrum so they changed the diagnosis to "Autism Spectrum Disorder" with severity levels 1-3, with three being the most severe. This diagnosis includes the former diagnoses of Autism, Asperger's and PDD-NOS. Rett's Syndrome was moved to a different category and Childhood Disintegrative Disorder no longer exists. |
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Twelve out of every ten children in America are "on the spectrum."
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iirc, the definition in the DSM changed because autism is manifested "on a spectrum" and isn't binary like "you're infected with rhinovirus" or "you're not infected with rhinovirus" It's not feel-good, it's a more accurate description of autism, because many people are "autistic" but wholly functional, while others are cripplingly autistic View Quote It's because the fucking range of points you can hit that are autistic are the full spectrum of a god damned rainbow. Every Suzy Soccer mom needs a reason why their kid is licking windows. So now if you need 5 points but only have 3 you are on spectrum. |
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When did people stop dying of old age?
The more we understand about medical science the more specialized the diagnosis becomes. |
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Twelve out of every ten children in America are "on the spectrum." View Quote Now it's thirteen out of every ten I have a nephew who is autistic, and my sister is a fucking saint. No idea how she didn't pull her hair out years ago. It's been a hard journey, that's for sure. These days, I'm wondering how many total kids are "on the spectrum" mainly for that sweet sweet SSI money (I know of two). |
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Holy shit, antivaxxers actually exist? I thought you all were just a shitty internet meme View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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When the doctors had parents saying "My child has various colors of light shining out of their ass! What does it mean?" Then the doctors said "Your child is on the spectrum."
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Holy shit, antivaxxers actually exist? I thought you all were just a shitty internet meme View Quote |
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When everyone wanted to get in on the autism victim train.
You need varying degrees of autism so everyone can join the fun. I've only got 5% of the tisms but I still struggle so make special allowances for me. |
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When the industry realized they needed more kids that required their professional help, in order to get the big Benz with the deluxe leather seats.
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When everyone wanted to get in on the autism victim train. You need varying degrees of autism so everyone can join the fun. I've only got 5% of the tisms but I still struggle so make special allowances for me. View Quote Half the kids I've seen with "autism" have actual issues, the other half are undisciplined little shits whose Mom wants Special-Needs Parent Victim Status: Achievement unlocked. |
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It's a way to explain quirks or parental failures away for many without truly insulting the families that deal with it. True autism is devastating to a family. I know first hand.
It's the same thing as people who self-diagnose themselves with OCD. It's easier to tell people, "Don't do that. I'm OCD!", than to explain to people, "I need to get my way all the time because I'm a whiney little bitch....so appease me." |
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Garlic aioli!
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Let me ask you, how many vaccines are you willing to take? Watch a regular news channel and watch all the BigPharma ads on vax. You would be a pin cushion if you took all the recommended vaccines. View Quote |
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LOL, I was in the Army for 22 years then worked for the CDC for 10. I filled up three shot records (the yellow books). No autism and never even turned into a newt. View Quote |
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When schools realized they can get more funding by having more "special" kids.
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As a former mental health professional, ‘autism’ is a massively over diagnosed sham. In my experience, half the kids we worked with that were labeled ‘autistic’ were not at all. Just shit parenting and unchecked bad behavior and other factors coming together to make a ‘syndrome’. The vast overdiagnosis is a disservice to the children who really are born with autism.
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Make the category so big, like climate change, and you can put whatever you want on the spectrum.
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As the parent of an autistic and epileptic 20 year old who is never gonna be able to live on his own, I'd like to give a big friendly "fuck you" to everyone who thinks the autism spectrum isn't a thing.
That is all. |
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As the parent of an autistic and epileptic 20 year old who is never gonna be able to live on his own, I'd like to give a big friendly "fuck you" to everyone who thinks the autism spectrum isn't a thing. That is all. View Quote |
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Like many things, it is complicated. A change in the understanding of autism and what it exactly means is driving a larger portion of kids to be diagnosed with the disorder. This can mean anything from mild impacts and still able to function in society to completely unable to care for themselves. Add in some financial incentives for people to get their kids diagnosed, and it creates a mess.
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Not everyone displays the full range or severity of autism signs just like not all people with Tourettes display the full range of severity/signs.
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When they started giving vaccines to 6mo babies View Quote I’ve never actually looked myself though. It’s always just twists in logic, just like flat earthers. It could sound right if you have zero knowledge on the subject, but to everyone else they look like fucking retards. |
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It's one in the same. Saying "on the spectrum" just implies (rightly so) that there are many levels of functioning with autism. View Quote |
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As the parent of an autistic and epileptic 20 year old who is never gonna be able to live on his own, I'd like to give a big friendly "fuck you" to everyone who thinks the autism spectrum isn't a thing. That is all. View Quote Best wishes for your son and your family. |
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We are all on the spectrum. View Quote When I was working (presently retired), every engineer I worked with had the symptoms of being "on the spectrum." Are you good at math? On the spectrum Are there co-workers you prefer not to deal with? On the spectrum. |
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Let me ask you, how many vaccines are you willing to take? Watch a regular news channel and watch all the BigPharma ads on vax. You would be a pin cushion if you took all the recommended vaccines. View Quote |
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Everything becomes pejorative eventually and people insist on changing the nomenclature to avoid hurting people's feelings.
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Where are all the Autistic senior citizens? Where are the middle aged Autists?
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Let me ask you, how many vaccines are you willing to take? Watch a regular news channel and watch all the BigPharma ads on vax. You would be a pin cushion if you took all the recommended vaccines. View Quote |
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Im just realizing Ive never seen someone with "autism" who was older than early 20's. They all get locked in a group home when they get kicked off their parents insurance at 27?
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