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Posted: 7/7/2015 6:44:06 AM EDT
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If it is illegal in your state to carry while you have alcohol in your system and you do it anyway, that is not being responsible. In Utah the limit is the same as if you're driving. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This. I'm not obeying a stupid ass law. I don't get shit housed while carrying a gun, but I'm not disarming over a couple beers at dinner. If you can't handle a couple beers and still be responsible then you can't be responsible without the beer either. If it is illegal in your state to carry while you have alcohol in your system and you do it anyway, that is not being responsible. In Utah the limit is the same as if you're driving. I used to leave my gun in my truck when I went out and had a drink with my friends until I got robbed after leaving a bar. I'm not obeying any law that puts my life at risk again. I'll take the jury over the coroner. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 7:11:13 AM EDT
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Side boner. Rare medical condition, but it happens. LOL'd |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 7:44:21 AM EDT
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The legal limit for driving is .08 BAC. However, if you are below that limit, you can still be charged with DWI if the officer believes you are impaired. It'll be a tough sell in court, but you can still be charged. Do you really want to take that chance with a self defense situation in this political environment? It's my personal opinion that that is not an acceptable level of risk for me and my family. I'll refrain from drinking while out and carrying. You legal eagles can obviously do as you please. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The prosecution would have a field day with him if he was involved in a shooting after having that beer. Can you legally do it? Possibly. But it's fucking stupid. Not here in Florida where the law specifically allows for an inebriated individual to use his gun in lawful self defense. The legal limit for driving is .08 BAC. However, if you are below that limit, you can still be charged with DWI if the officer believes you are impaired. It'll be a tough sell in court, but you can still be charged. Do you really want to take that chance with a self defense situation in this political environment? It's my personal opinion that that is not an acceptable level of risk for me and my family. I'll refrain from drinking while out and carrying. You legal eagles can obviously do as you please. The law in Florida specifically allows for a person to use his gun in self defense even if he is over the legal limit. Does that imply that I'm in favor of getting drunk while in possession of a firearm? No it does not; but it is legal to carry and have a drink or 2 although being legally drunk in possession or while shooting is a class 2 misdemeanor here and punishable by a fine unless the gun is used in legitimate self defense. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 9:25:32 AM EDT
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If it is illegal in your state to carry while you have alcohol in your system and you do it anyway, that is not being responsible. In Utah the limit is the same as if you're driving. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what? This. I'm not obeying a stupid ass law. I don't get shit housed while carrying a gun, but I'm not disarming over a couple beers at dinner. If you can't handle a couple beers and still be responsible then you can't be responsible without the beer either. If it is illegal in your state to carry while you have alcohol in your system and you do it anyway, that is not being responsible. In Utah the limit is the same as if you're driving. With all due respect, what you are saying is if You drive 1mph over the posted speed limit, even if they won't cite you for it, it's not being responsible. So you will say you don't ever drive 1mph over the over the speed limit? |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 2:56:29 PM EDT
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If it is illegal in your state to carry while you have alcohol in your system and you do it anyway, that is not being responsible. In Utah the limit is the same as if you're driving. I disagree. I carried concealed for YEARS before I was legally allowed to do so. I'm not putting my life at risk because of some stupid law. Hell, for that matter, I don't follow stupid laws at all unless there are plausible and substantial consequences. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 3:01:44 PM EDT
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I disagree. I carried concealed for YEARS before I was legally allowed to do so. I'm not putting my life at risk because of some stupid law. Hell, for that matter, I don't follow stupid laws at all unless there are plausible and substantial consequences. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is illegal in your state to carry while you have alcohol in your system and you do it anyway, that is not being responsible. In Utah the limit is the same as if you're driving. I disagree. I carried concealed for YEARS before I was legally allowed to do so. I'm not putting my life at risk because of some stupid law. Hell, for that matter, I don't follow stupid laws at all unless there are plausible and substantial consequences. The government gets to make up shit as it goes along without following their own rules, so why should I follow their rules? I respect other people and their property, as long as what I'm doing doesn't hurt them I'll pretty much do what I damn well please. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 3:24:11 PM EDT
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The government gets to make up shit as it goes along without following their own rules, so why should I follow their rules? I respect other people and their property, as long as what I'm doing doesn't hurt them I'll pretty much do what I damn well please. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is illegal in your state to carry while you have alcohol in your system and you do it anyway, that is not being responsible. In Utah the limit is the same as if you're driving. I disagree. I carried concealed for YEARS before I was legally allowed to do so. I'm not putting my life at risk because of some stupid law. Hell, for that matter, I don't follow stupid laws at all unless there are plausible and substantial consequences. The government gets to make up shit as it goes along without following their own rules, so why should I follow their rules? I respect other people and their property, as long as what I'm doing doesn't hurt them I'll pretty much do what I damn well please. I will accept any rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. - Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 4:32:15 PM EDT
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I disagree. I carried concealed for YEARS before I was legally allowed to do so. I'm not putting my life at risk because of some stupid law. Hell, for that matter, I don't follow stupid laws at all unless there are plausible and substantial consequences. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is illegal in your state to carry while you have alcohol in your system and you do it anyway, that is not being responsible. In Utah the limit is the same as if you're driving. I disagree. I carried concealed for YEARS before I was legally allowed to do so. I'm not putting my life at risk because of some stupid law. Hell, for that matter, I don't follow stupid laws at all unless there are plausible and substantial consequences. I'm with this guy. |
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