Buckle up for what?

The Signal/Noise ratio on discussions is also a good gauge of something people don't want to hear.

Read to Reply ratio compared to similar topics is an anomaly, while S/N goes down at the same time.

Those who complain/dissent the most...

When you hear the next airliner taking off from an airport near you, really quick pull out your Phone and take a photo so the airplane is more than a speck and post it here, Bonus points for night time.

Phone cameras are made for near range/social media, plus trying to even find the object you want to get a photo of in the screen is hard and a focus pulled on it is even more rare.  

We have images from .mil bases but they get shouted down as drones or flares (that somehow hover stationary for 10 minutes+), though none were present at the time and others cover far too many miles across multiple states to be drones which can hover and move supersonic and stop again without visible delay.

The ones screaming for evidence are the ones who then insist it's fraud document or fake/flare/bad video when they are given evidence.

I also know a thing or two about advanced air vehicles as well.


Edit..And yes I know all about optics as well and was told from some who believe in this bunk, that our current NV Tech was from captured gear from Roswell. This kinda of nonsense is an insult to so many phenominal engineers over the years who actually developed this tech...

Guess Bob Lazar forgot to get that protection? Another gem...

Being an avid amature astronomer peering into the dark sky with my NV equipped C11, I do look up a bunch.


Listen, I'm not trying to bash but I remeber vividly when Have Blue flew for the first time/s and we would take bets how many UFO calls the local Lincoln County constables would get the nights we were active. Flying triangles, eerie propulsion, etc.

I will say this, just because we may not understand 21st century flight dynamics and an object does things "they're not supposed to", does not mean non-human.  Just saying Sir...

I can respect your reply and makes sense. I'll add this, the SR-71, F-117, Tacit Blue , Bird of Prey, B2 etc. were way abnormal shaped air vehicles for thier time and some saw disbelief. A new era is and has has been forthcoming IMHO...

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Good post, enjoyed the thought going into it. Agreed the American public should pay very close attention what is happening with Jamess Comer's comment's.

As for Lazar, there is nothing out there to change mine and MANY other Aero Defense Contractors minds at the time who knew this guy was never where he said he was along with his educational background. Total con.

It's kind of related to ?? aka  v-¯1¯    in science fiction, Especially in Early ones like Heinlein and Asimov, while today's sci-fi use the multi-world/timeline intertwined idea of physics to give more elbow room.   We could live on a planet that is a single sphere in some  Tesseract. Otherwise these craft are traveling to us from another planet, solar system, or even galaxy which has entirely alien life, not just a different spot in the same planet. Another idea tossed out in the multi timeline/world theory is the UFOs we see are "Time Tourists" (Time on it's own isn't needed for physics to work, only space-time, so it is mathematically not-impossible).

The imaginary plane.   Overlaid and in the same physical space that we're familiar with, the 3 dimensions of up/down left/right in/out.   If you take it to the theoretical math level, those can also have an imaginary component.  Think of it as "phase" which is what it is called in EE or "axis perpendicular to all of x,y,z" with spots where one can see another but not in entirety and not completely unless the correct maneuvers/manipulation takes place.   That is the earlier theory of "Phase shifted world" for Earth having non humans here a hell of a lot longer than humans have been here, co-located with us.  Potentially responsible for ghosts, UFOs, cryptids, etc when they peek/jump through.

Another is the "Breakaway Civilization" idea where there is a giant underground facility in Antarctica where it is a world of things that didn't evolve from the Homo Sapiens strain the way we did.  Potentially much more intelligent and different skin and body proportions based on the thousands or tens of thousands of years of acclimation they've gone through.   This is similar also to the "Hollow Earth" and "Hollow Moon" concepts, just with different names and locations.   They have highly advanced travel and mastered gravity and magnetism which is among the last of roadblocks for us humans to have a complete knowledge of how stuff works.     Admiral Byrd said "Pole to Pole and back in a single day" when speaking of the craft he was shown in his visit to Antarctica.  That was then redacted and he said no more about the trip to Antarctica on way home.  The single day pole to pole quote was to a Brazilian newspaper asking about the first mapping of Antarctica and asking how they lost so much and came home early.  Admiral Byrd 1947 Diary entry regarding the Operation High Jump Antarctica expedition.  The newspaper quote is out there as well, just not easily found.


We have a really good and precise equation for electrical and magnetic fields and how to manipulate and use them to our advantage.  We only know gravity is related to mass and no clue how it actually works.  Some other civilization may have cracked the gravity problem long, long ago an just doesn't give it out, maybe they helped build the pyramids and other sites in S. America, India, etc and left again after saying "You're doing it wrong, try this way" or some other message.  

So, it's easier to say "Materials not made with what we generally consider as "man made", no matter which country's cutting edge tech".  These craft have been seen throughout history and with the same shape/lights and dimensions, long long before there was a science of metallurgy or even flight.   I doubt they were really advanced secret aircraft, even the sightings of the 50s have capabilities we do not even have now, or if gravity has been controlled by reverse engineering "dropped off" craft, there may be the ARV test flights which can do the massive acceleration and turning without making any sound at all.  There was a mention of a "UFO exchange" with a US Navy ship in 1915 but we weren't given the details of the alleged 'exchange'.  1916 UFO Problems with these early ones quite well documented if they can be found, but the search engines don't go out of their way to put them in the first 5 pages.

Others think it's all a simulation and "From this Earth" is relative to what we can do at the molecular level, we now have essentially 6 molecule transistors, they can't get any smaller for traditional/current construction, yet we cannot figure out why gravity is.  Once gravity is figured out, inertial frame can be brought along so 0 to mach 10 happens in 100 yards and you won't even spill your coffee or notice a thing until you're at your destination.