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Posted: 7/20/2023 9:12:31 PM EDT
Who Are Those Who Can Never Be Saved? Part 1 (Hebrews 6:4-6)


Who Are Those Who Can Never Be Saved?
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 9:19:16 PM EDT
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The ones who don’t want to be. God’s grace is sufficient for all, one just has to accept it.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 10:54:42 PM EDT
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The retail industry works in a similar manner ....... condition consumers to think they need something.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:03:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:09:44 PM EDT
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I like Jack Hibbs.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:10:56 PM EDT
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The non-elect
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:18:14 PM EDT
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Communist can’t unless they’re baptized with lead
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Even many of them will beg for God's grace before it's all over.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:19:43 PM EDT
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Wtf why are you posting all this cornbelt Jesus stuff here?  What gives?
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:21:27 PM EDT
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Because freedom.  Take a hike or listen up
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:27:03 PM EDT
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There's a religious forum but they always feel the need to put GD on blast.

Shit posting is a thing here.



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GD is open forum.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:32:27 PM EDT
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There's a religious forum but they always feel the need to put GD on blast.

Shit posting is a thing here.



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Wtf why are you posting all this cornbelt Jesus stuff here?  What gives?



There's a religious forum but they always feel the need to put GD on blast.

Shit posting is a thing here.




Every time you post in a religion thread you bump it to the top of page 1.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:34:03 PM EDT
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Saved from what?

Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:38:32 PM EDT
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Every time you post in a religion thread you bump it to the top of page 1.
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It’s cringe

Enjoy your bump
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:39:04 PM EDT
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Touching a computer
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:39:37 PM EDT
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Haters are gonna hate
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Born again hypocrites gonna say one thing and do the other.
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It’s cringe

Enjoy your bump
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Every time you post in a religion thread you bump it to the top of page 1.



It’s cringe

Enjoy your bump

What's cringe is your inability to just not click on threads about stuff you don't like.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:42:24 PM EDT
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Probably because the time is short and we all need to hear this.  Or, you could log into DU and catch up on the latest exploits of Satan.  
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:42:38 PM EDT
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Those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:43:23 PM EDT
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That guy in Nutty Putty wasn't able to be saved
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Yup.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:57:55 PM EDT
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Oh please.  This probably is the response you guys were fishing for anyways.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 12:10:31 AM EDT
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Well, first of all the title to the video has nothing to do with the passage:

Heb 6: 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

That passage has nothing to do with who can or who cannot be saved.

What the passage says is,  those who were enlightened, have tasted the heavenly gift, are partakers of the Holy Ghost, tasted the good word of God and the powers of the world to come....

If THEY fall away, OTHERS cannot renew THEM unto repentance.  No, they will have to repent themselves.  

There are no people "who can never be saved."

The Bible makes it absolutely clear throughout the scriptures that Jesus Christ has provided light to every man (John 1:9), that God has dealt a measure of faith to every man (Rom 12:3), that the Lord is not willing that any should perish (2 Pet 3:9), that Christ died for every man (Heb 2:9), and it is God's will that all men would be saved (1 Tim 2:4).

But that does not mean that there are not people who will refuse salvation.  

God offers salvation through a relationship.  That relationship is based on love - with the terms mutually acceptable to both parties.  That's how a relationship based on love has to exist.  The terms are not unilateral.

God's love for mankind was put into action and displayed on the cross at Calvary. The Bible says we love him (God) because He first loved us and gave Himself for us (1 John 4:19).

People are free to respond to God's love, believe the truth, and a relationship between God and the sinner is formed - eternally...  Or, they can reject God's love and have no relationship with God and remain unsaved.

But there are no sinners "who can never be saved."

So the premise of the video is false and the "proof text" for the video isn't even about salvation it's about those who fall away and their need to repent themselves.

Now, for those who are unsaved, Christians are supposed to preach repentance toward God, and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21)
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 12:14:25 AM EDT
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Didn't watch, but blasphemists of the Holy Spirit ~right in black and white in the new testament, IIRC

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Beat

Link Posted: 7/21/2023 12:18:00 AM EDT
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Sounds like a peaceful, loving god.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 12:19:57 AM EDT
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Pray on Sunday and sin all week.  You won’t find finer copium anywhere.
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The ones who don’t want to be. God’s grace is sufficient for all, one just has to accept it.
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100% right.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 12:47:05 AM EDT
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Sounds like a peaceful, loving god.
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Sounds like a peaceful, loving god.

God is not merely and only peaceful and loving.

Being loving and peaceful does not mean you do not hate what is worthy of hate and that you will not do violence upon those who deserve it.

Extra add on: mercy is getting positive favor that, by definition, *you don't deserve it.*

If you deserved positive favor, it's not mercy, it's just what you earned.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 1:04:52 AM EDT
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God is not merely and only peaceful and loving.

Being loving and peaceful does not mean you do not hate what is worthy of hate and that you will not do violence upon those who deserve it.

Extra add on: mercy is getting positive favor that, by definition, *you don't deserve it.*

If you deserved positive favor, it's not mercy, it's just what you earned.
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God sure did a lot of that in the OT. I like to see my god smite his creation.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 1:11:03 AM EDT
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My great grandfather said “Not all democrats are horse thieves. But all horse thieves are Democrats. I’m guessing they will be a lot of the unsaved too.  ;-)
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 1:16:22 AM EDT
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Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 1:18:43 AM EDT
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extraterrestrial thread...greetings
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 1:20:12 AM EDT
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Hey! Thats my Pastor!
I see myself...
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 1:27:04 AM EDT
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He is one of, if not my favorite, pastors to watch on YouTube.

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Ive enjoyed this church for 7 years now.  

Teaching is straight forward from the bible. the eschatolgy is a little much sometimes but...

Jack is a great Pastor/Guy we were in services during the lockdown and fighting the state and leading other churches to open too.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:13:37 PM EDT
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God sure did a lot of that in the OT. I like to see my god smite his creation.
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God is not merely and only peaceful and loving.

Being loving and peaceful does not mean you do not hate what is worthy of hate and that you will not do violence upon those who deserve it.

Extra add on: mercy is getting positive favor that, by definition, *you don't deserve it.*

If you deserved positive favor, it's not mercy, it's just what you earned.
God sure did a lot of that in the OT. I like to see my god smite his creation.

Those who believe the bible is God's word and truth also realize they deserve to get smited, and so don't usually enjoy seeing that, even though they know it is 1000% deserved and just.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:17:47 PM EDT
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There are no atheists in foxholes.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:27:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:28:25 PM EDT
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Me. I can't be saved...
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:31:00 PM EDT
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Things could get very awkward someday
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:32:18 PM EDT
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I enjoy most all Religious topics posted here in GD.  I always learn something new in them.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:37:20 PM EDT
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Utter bullshit.
I've had 2 heart attacks. Was certain both times I'd die before I got to the hospital. Never thought once about any gods.
I've had multiple bilateral pulmonary emboli. Literally fighting to breathe. Unbelievable pain. Never thought once about any gods.

The old 'no atheists in foxholes' crap is a story believers tell themselves because they can't fathom that there are people who don't believe the same things they do.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:40:03 PM EDT
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Stop touching yourself Kent..
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:40:28 PM EDT
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The ones with too much pride to humble themselves and submit to God.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:52:05 PM EDT
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I had a good friend who was the pastor of a Cowboy Baptist church.
He told me that people don't go to the doctor when they're feeling healthy.

If they don't ask, don't offer.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:52:42 PM EDT
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Read the book, do what it says.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:55:45 PM EDT
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Kill smartass kids who talk back?
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