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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:25:46 AM EDT
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In any group of people you get some ego maniac assholes with extremely high opinions of themselves. That being said all of the polling I've seen seems to suggest on average atheists are more educated than highly religious people. See the pew global website for polls. If someone is more educated than someone else they may or may not be more intelligent... But on average they probably are, although that doesn't mean their ideas are correct. However, as an atheist I tend to think that the ideas of all religions, that I am familiar with, are erroneous. Btw did I tell you I have a high iq?  
I've never met an atheist that said the type of shit that you posted. I have heard people say things like they can't understand how intelligent people could believe in nonsense (ie religions) |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:27:20 AM EDT
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Put that little bitch in the open of an artillery barrage and let me know the name he is screaming to.
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:31:10 AM EDT
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I've met alot of really dumb people in my career. Most of the self describe atheists are not so much idiots or morons as just plain assholes to be around in the first place.
Nearly every atheist I have met is anti-gun, pro abortion, and loves Bernie. And nearly every one of them is flat broke 100% of the time and asks to borrow money (which I politely refuse). That said, I've met some bum-fuck stupid self described "Christians" who can hardly screw in a lightbulb w/o watching a youtube video over ... and over ... and over again. There is no religion (or anti-religion) that has a market cornered on stupidity. Just evil and selfishness is what I have witnessed. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:36:17 AM EDT
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Offended by star wars because it is fake?
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:38:46 AM EDT
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Religious people are less intelligent on average than atheists because faith is an instinct and clever people are better at rising above their instincts, researchers have claimed.
The theory — called the 'Intelligence-Mismatch Association Model' — was proposed by a pair of authors who set out to explain why numerous studies over past decades have found religious people to have lower average intelligence than people who do not believe in a god. A 2013 analysis by University of Rochester found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 historic studies. A negative correlation between intelligence and religion makes sense if religion is considered an instinct, and intelligence the ability to rise above one's instincts, say researchers Edward Dutton and Dimitri van der Linden in their new paper published today. Just to spell it out for the more obtuse among us, atheists aren't necessarily more intelligent than religious people, but intelligent people are more likely to be atheists. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:45:08 AM EDT
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Just to spell it out for the more obtuse among us, atheists aren't necessarily more intelligent than religious people, but intelligent people are more likely to be atheists. Niel DG is not a super genius as he pretends... cucker has his PhD in ballroom dance, not astrophysics. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:48:41 AM EDT
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Not really... Most atheists are very vocal about their hatred of Christians and hide/run in the face of Islam. That doesn't make them more "intelligent", just openly two-faced blow hards. Niel DG is not a super genius as he pretends... cucker has his PhD in ballroom dance, not astrophysics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just to spell it out for the more obtuse among us, atheists aren't necessarily more intelligent than religious people, but intelligent people are more likely to be atheists. Niel DG is not a super genius as he pretends... cucker has his PhD in ballroom dance, not astrophysics. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:03:46 AM EDT
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Atheism isn't an IQ test, its a ego test. Atheism appeals to our base selfish instincts.
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:09:14 AM EDT
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As an atheist that happens to be a former infantryman and has fought muslims... fuck off in the most sincere way possible. I hope a Muslim is fucking your daughter right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm glad that they have a degree of modesty. They can burn in hell with the Muslims.  You actually wrote that and then actually hit Submit. No sympathy for you here.
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:15:36 AM EDT
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"Account suicide" |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:40:59 AM EDT
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It's the fundamentalists who hold power (socially and theologically). Agnostic-Theists, theological liberals and deists who grapple with the issues honestly are rare (they'll also often play cover for the fundamentalists). Holistically, you defeat them by educating them. 
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:48:41 AM EDT
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First time anybody's ever confused me with being a believer. My post that you quoted is just looking at what I see going on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You believers take religion too seriously, that's why you will never win an argument, only thing left is the bitter after taste.  
ETA: should have scrolled down. 
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:24:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2017 1:51:19 PM EDT
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They _______, but we ______.
If what your saying follows that pattern, then you aren't as smart as you think you are. That goes for everyone. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 5:19:59 PM EDT
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Seriously dude you should be banned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Look at the Muslims in the Middle East. Generally low IQs in addition to poor education. Extremely religious. What is the cause? Look at who is most religious in America. The poorly educated. Is it because of the lack of education? Or is there an actual dearth of intelligence? Intelligent people can be religious, but there is a strong negative correlation. What for? The most religious in America are the least educated. Are facts worthy of a ban? 
To be honest, I thought the correlation was stronger. A study found the correlation between IQ and atheism to be 0.60. This means a moderate to strong correlation. Another study showed that the correlation between low educational attainment and religion was present but decreasing. It would seem to be that the correlation is between low intelligence and religion. The fact that well-educated people are more likely to be atheists is probably due to higher intelligence rather than to more education, with higher education simply being an artifact of higher intelligence. Note: This last statement is a conjecture, not a fact. To be clear, there are some very intelligent people who believe in God. I am not stating that only dumb people believe in God, or that believing in God makes one stupid. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 5:33:34 PM EDT
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@hotbiggun42 What for? The most religious in America are the least educated. Are facts worthy of a ban? http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/04/25101955/PF.04.26.2017_-useducation-00-02.png To be honest, I thought the correlation was stronger. A study found the correlation between IQ and atheism to be 0.60. This means a moderate to strong correlation. Another study showed that the correlation between low educational attainment and religion was present but decreasing. It would seem to be that the correlation is between low intelligence and religion. The fact that well-educated people are more likely to be atheists is probably due to higher intelligence rather than to more education, with higher education simply being an artifact of higher intelligence. Note: This last statement is a conjecture, not a fact. To be clear, there are some very intelligent people who believe in God. I am not stating that only dumb people believe in God, or that believing in God makes one stupid. Any time you measure "the traditional beliefs" of a people versus something else you're going to get a rural-urban split, and the correlating education/IQ differences. The people in the countryside are always more conservative and adhere more strongly to the traditional beliefs. In ancient Rome the pagans were in the countryside and the dangerous radicals were Christians in the cities. Now the Christians are in the countryside and the dangerous radicals are atheists in the cities. In Iran the Mullahs are supported by the traditionalists in the countryside and opposed by radicals in the cities. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 5:41:24 PM EDT
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@hotbiggun42 What for? The most religious in America are the least educated. Are facts worthy of a ban? http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/04/25101955/PF.04.26.2017_-useducation-00-02.png To be honest, I thought the correlation was stronger. A study found the correlation between IQ and atheism to be 0.60. This means a moderate to strong correlation. Another study showed that the correlation between low educational attainment and religion was present but decreasing. It would seem to be that the correlation is between low intelligence and religion. The fact that well-educated people are more likely to be atheists is probably due to higher intelligence rather than to more education, with higher education simply being an artifact of higher intelligence. Note: This last statement is a conjecture, not a fact. To be clear, there are some very intelligent people who believe in God. I am not stating that only dumb people believe in God, or that believing in God makes one stupid. I would say that often highly educated/intelligent people will publicly attest to a belief in the accepted religion of their social circles in order to fit in. I lied for years and still do to some people (75 YO father). As far as intellect goes, I am not a stupid person. I quit posting inflammatory responses a while back when I realized I was just feeding trolls the majority of the time. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 5:50:40 PM EDT
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Well presented argument. Bonus debate points for good citations and the caveats when you presented your conjecture. I agree with the findings and see it in everyday life. I would say that often highly educated/intelligent people will publicly attest to a belief in the accepted religion of their social circles in order to fit in. I lied for years and still do to some people (75 YO father). As far as intellect goes, I am not a stupid person. I quit posting inflammatory responses a while back when I realized I was just feeding trolls the majority of the time. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 6:03:31 PM EDT
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For me, religion provides entertainment.
I have a co-worker who is extremely devoted Evangelical Christian. The very first day I came to work, he gave me a copy of Billy Graham's book and CD, I know what was ahead of me right a way. I kept my mouth shut for the first 2 years, I finally realized he's not gonna stop. Then I started treating the preaching as fun times at work, it does make my days go by faster. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 6:31:03 PM EDT
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Dumbest shit I've ever read. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 7:24:06 PM EDT
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Feel free to rebut his position. We can hope you will provide proper cites and caveat your personal positions. This guy thinks he is so brilliant that if he told his 75 year old father what he has figured out it would what, blow his mind?
Like his 75 year old pa was never young and thought he knew the secrets to the universe. Haha. Atheism is not some new mutant gene that only a few gifted posses. Lol. WTF is wrong with some of you knuckle heads? |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 7:34:27 PM EDT
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So, Athiest keep their beliefs to themselves, why? So they can fit in. Lol. Like you are some kind of genetic anomalie lol, if the Christians found out the truth you guys carry in your noodles surely you would be crucified. Lol. This guy thinks he is so brilliant that if he told his 75 year old father what he has figured out it would what, blow his mind?
Like his 75 year old pa was never young and thought he knew the secrets to the universe. Haha. Atheism is not some new mutant gene that only a few gifted posses. Lol. WTF is wrong with some of you knuckle heads? Trump beat Cruz during the Republican nomination. It was the non-weekly attenders that nominated Trump. Actual committed Evangelicals (the weekly attending) wanted Cruz, the SBC wanted Cruz, etc. Like it or not, everybody knows Trump is pretty much the antithesis of Evangelicalism. It's a tribal label for most. The religious fundamentalist will also ostracize those outside the group, so it's better to keep the tribal label (even if one doesn't really believe). |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 8:00:52 PM EDT
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I honestly think there's a tidal wave of Atheists/non-believers whom call themselves Christian/religious/etc. Trump beat Cruz during the Republican nomination. It was the non-weekly attenders that nominated Trump. Actual committed Evangelicals (the weekly attending) wanted Cruz, the SBC wanted Cruz, etc. Like it or not, everybody knows Trump is pretty much the antithesis of Evangelicalism. It's a tribal label for most. The religious fundamentalist will also ostracize those outside the group, so it's better to keep the tribal label (even if one doesn't really believe). You can put your life in the hands in politicians who believe they are the highest power on earth. I will take my chances on those who fear their actions will be judged by a higher power. Trump says he is a Christian and I believe him. If he's lying well not much I can do about it. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 8:50:22 PM EDT
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So, Athiest keep their beliefs to themselves, why? So they can fit in. Lol. Like you are some kind of genetic anomalie lol, if the Christians found out the truth you guys carry in your noodles surely you would be crucified. Lol. This guy thinks he is so brilliant that if he told his 75 year old father what he has figured out it would what, blow his mind?
Like his 75 year old pa was never young and thought he knew the secrets to the universe. Haha. Atheism is not some new mutant gene that only a few gifted posses. Lol. WTF is wrong with some of you knuckle heads? You are sure shine your light well, don't you. 
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Posted: 6/30/2017 9:08:14 PM EDT
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I honestly think there's a tidal wave of Atheists/non-believers whom call themselves Christian/religious/etc. Trump beat Cruz during the Republican nomination. It was the non-weekly attenders that nominated Trump. Actual committed Evangelicals (the weekly attending) wanted Cruz, the SBC wanted Cruz, etc. Like it or not, everybody knows Trump is pretty much the antithesis of Evangelicalism. It's a tribal label for most. The religious fundamentalist will also ostracize those outside the group, so it's better to keep the tribal label (even if one doesn't really believe). WRT Trump, he has presented nothing to indicate he would be considered an evangelical. I personally think he fits in the category like you have stated. He appears to me to be a "tribal believer" in order to fit in. Cruz lost because he sold his beliefs which turned many off before they ever looked his positions. He was pandering is faith and nothing is more pretentious. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 9:27:13 PM EDT
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Feel free to rebut his position. We can hope you will provide proper cites and caveat your personal positions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumbest shit I've ever read. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:03:27 PM EDT
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When you quote a person make sure you write in a form that addresses them, not about them. You are sure shine your light well, don't you. |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:04:38 PM EDT
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I think you may have confused him |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 10:47:44 PM EDT
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Not in this century bud. Athiest have been around as long as man has existed. You can put your life in the hands in politicians who believe they are the highest power on earth. I will take my chances on those who fear their actions will be judged by a higher power. Trump says he is a Christian and I believe him. If he's lying well not much I can do about it.  Failed To Load Title [cringe] ------------------------ Cruz would also have been the nominee if people really cared (whom the weekly-attending Evangelicals wanted to nominate). Trump was nominated by the non-weekly attenders. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 12:18:16 AM EDT
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So, Athiest keep their beliefs to themselves, why? So they can fit in. Lol. Like you are some kind of genetic anomalie lol, if the Christians found out the truth you guys carry in your noodles surely you would be crucified. Lol. This guy thinks he is so brilliant that if he told his 75 year old father what he has figured out it would what, blow his mind?
Like his 75 year old pa was never young and thought he knew the secrets to the universe. Haha. Atheism is not some new mutant gene that only a few gifted posses. Lol. WTF is wrong with some of you knuckle heads? |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 12:30:03 AM EDT
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I started college a liberal and an atheist. I left college a Christian and a Republican. There is a common consensus, both quantitative and qualitative, that college graduates are no longer increasing their critical thinking and problem solving capacity over non college graduates. I will take a kid with a vision and no college over a college grad any day of the week.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 12:50:46 AM EDT
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I started college a liberal and an atheist. I left college a Christian and a Republican. There is a common consensus, both quantitative and qualitative, that college graduates are no longer increasing their critical thinking and problem solving capacity over non college graduates. I will take a kid with a vision and no college over a college grad any day of the week. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 1:24:20 AM EDT
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What if they have a vision of another God? You may be an ambassador to England or France You may like to gamble, you might like to dance You may be the heavyweight champion of the world You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes Indeed you're gonna have to serve somebody Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 1:40:16 AM EDT
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So, Athiest keep their beliefs to themselves, why? |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 2:01:33 AM EDT
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Indeed they do. As the great poet Bob Dylan once said: You may be an ambassador to England or France You may like to gamble, you might like to dance You may be the heavyweight champion of the world You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes Indeed you're gonna have to serve somebody Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What if they have a vision of another God? You may be an ambassador to England or France You may like to gamble, you might like to dance You may be the heavyweight champion of the world You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes Indeed you're gonna have to serve somebody Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord But you're gonna have to serve somebody How do you know that you're not worshiping the Devil cloaked as God and he's worshiping the real God? |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 2:09:49 AM EDT
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Put that little bitch in the open of an artillery barrage and let me know the name he is screaming to. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 2:35:06 AM EDT
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Its k.
Yuppy atheists don't multiply. The future belongs to the jimmy rays, jaquarius's, and the Juan Carlos's and not the skyler's and the rian's. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 3:29:08 AM EDT
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Its k. Yuppy atheists don't multiply. The future belongs to the jimmy rays, jaquarius's, and the Juan Carlos's and not the skyler's and the rian's. Economic/cultural productivity is more important. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 7:34:36 AM EDT
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Because it's none of your business, nor is there any reason for me to bring it up unsolicited. A position that some Christians find difficult to abide by. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, Athiest keep their beliefs to themselves, why? People want to be qualified as "good" and valuable to their peer groups. To do that they will "fill the squares" as needed. I have all my life as have most if not all of you reading this thread. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 7:50:41 AM EDT
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Must be so hard to teach young atheist ,constantly overthinking , chronically questioning and doubting.
Little atheist Johnny , 2+2=4.. why , 2+2=4 , but why.. it just is, 2+2=4 don't you understand this...why , what if it's a different 2? what if your 2 isn't the same as my 2? You don't really know it equals 4 , you can't prove it.. show me a 4.. see you cant. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 7:58:30 AM EDT
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In any group of people you get some ego maniac assholes with extremely high opinions of themselves. That being said all of the polling I've seen seems to suggest on average atheists are more educated than highly religious people. See the pew global website for polls. If someone is more educated than someone else they may or may not be more intelligent... But on average they probably are, although that doesn't mean their ideas are correct. However, as an atheist I tend to think that the ideas of all religions, that I am familiar with, are erroneous. Btw did I tell you I have a high iq?
I've never met an atheist that said the type of shit that you posted. I have heard people say things like they can't understand how intelligent people could believe in nonsense (ie religions) |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:01:06 AM EDT
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Its k. Yuppy atheists don't multiply. The future belongs to the jimmy rays, jaquarius's, and the Juan Carlos's and not the skyler's and the rian's. https://youtu.be/77Jl59DZ2C4 |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:08:05 AM EDT
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Put that little bitch in the open of an artillery barrage and let me know the name he is screaming to. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:40:40 AM EDT
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It hard not to feel superior when you're in a discussion with another person about the existence of an mythological all powerful being. Its worse than discussing a globe with someone from the flat earth society.
You with as well be arguing the existence of the Easter bunny or Saint Nick but without any of the proof that comes with the candy and presents that show up annually. There I said it. There is more actual physical evidence to support the existence of the Easter bunny and Santa than there is for an all powerful God. What I can't fathom is how a group of books wrote 2K years ago by a bunch of shepherds are taken to be the holy truth after all this time. Actual real hard science is in debate by folks that think the words of a 2K year old shepherd is final word on all things metaphysical. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:44:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:45:01 AM EDT
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Because this is not going to change anybody's mind, on the contrary, it reaffirms the ideology of each side.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:52:19 AM EDT
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Must be so hard to teach young atheist ,constantly overthinking , chronically questioning and doubting. Little atheist Johnny , 2+2=4.. why , 2+2=4 , but why.. it just is, 2+2=4 don't you understand this...why , what if it's a different 2? what if your 2 isn't the same as my 2? You don't really know it equals 4 , you can't prove it.. show me a 4.. see you cant. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 8:57:59 AM EDT
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Do any of you really think the OP was asking a genuine question or just making a statement.
The title of this thread should have been: atheists are stupid, and please agree with me. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 9:06:56 AM EDT
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Do any of you really think the OP was asking a genuine question or just making a statement. The title of this thread should have been: atheists are stupid, and please agree with me. People know so little about themselves it amazes me. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 9:23:02 AM EDT
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That's why I've never shit posted in religious section. Religious topics in GD are pure comedy gold.
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