All you need to know about which side to be on is that every commie Hollywood actor has a fake southern accent they use to make fun of southerners.  There's never a fake northeastern accent.  Commies, that's all you need to know.

Born in NYS, live in the north, wish the confederacy had won.

Plenty of them in my area.


Plenty of that in my area as well.

lol-AROKIE 2021

this is truth.
my forbears came to America in 1917 to escape the Bolshevik revolution.  
I don't give two shits about ya'lls civil war, so bless your hearts
 

OP what do you mean gloat? i dont ever hear anybody from up north gloat over the civil war? so tell us what you hear or are constantly supposedly hearing

Do they?

I mean... I'm not really in a "yankee/southerner" part of the country, so about the only time I hear anyone talk about the civil war is here or when my wife's family visits from the South.  And it's virtually always Southerners that start the conversation.

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Why? Did you fight in some great battle while you were in TX? Did TX do something special for everyone else that I’m not aware of? Why are Texans always talking about where they’re from? And if it’s so great in TX, why don’t they stay there?

Why do Auburn fans complain so much?

No normal person talks about the civil war.  The only ones who talk about the civil war are people stuck in a history class and civil war aficionados.

There are no Yankees, Rebels, Northerners, Southerners, or whatever geographical label you want to use to differentiate people in this country.  

The different type of people in the country are Suburban vs Urban and Communist vs "Conservative", with a large group of illegal invaders thrown in.

God help me for wading into a "causes of the Civil War argument" in GD, but here goes. Both of you are right. The slave-owning elites in VA pushed for secession in order to keep slavery. They owned the media and many politicians (sounds familiar?) but didn't have the clout to make it happen at the first secession convention. There were too many non slave-owning folks in western VA who wanted no part of it. Lincoln gave the elites the excuse needed to drag the state into the fray on the southern side. They had the votes, but they still lost almost half the state (western counties who became WV) in the process.

So for the slave-owning elites in VA, the reason for secession was slavery. For many others it was opposition to perceived federal overreach. It should be a cautionary tale: Don't let the rich elites compel you to take up a cause that is detrimental to your self interest. But instead folks will continue to have their anger directed at their countrymen, and not the rich power-brokers.

My ancestors in VA were non slave-owning descendants of German pacifist abolitionists. I've read their primary documents. They abhorred slavery and opposed secession. Yet many of them wildly supported secession after Lincoln's call for troops to invade the south (several others sat the war out in the mountains, or fought for the north). Instead of studying history and extracting lessons that are relevant to current times, we fall into the same old traps and use the events of 160 years ago to demonize our countrymen and validate our own worldviews.

The Civil War shouldn't be an argument. It shouldn't be "Lost Causer" vs. "Neo Recustructionist" but here we are. I was all but kicked out of the local Republican Party back in VA because I wouldn't wrap myself in the Confederate Flag during an election year where the Democrats tried to make race the foremost issue. I'm good with taking down Lost Cause iconography that was erected for a specific purpose during the Jim Crow era. But I also will not join the side that tries to paint incredibly nuanced historical issues as a binary choice to further modern political goals.

In short, the war is over. Get over it. Study history, and don't allow the elites to cause you to act against your self interests.

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None of us have any real connection to the Civil War. It was long, long ago, we won't ever know any of the people that participated in or observed it.

I had ancestors on both sides, I'll never meet them. I can't connect with them any more than they can connect with me, but you can pretend to if that's what you want.

War between the States, pit bulls, tattoos, social security. The 4 staples of GD.

This.  When I traveled anywhere in the South The War of Northern Aggression would almost always get referenced.  This is in a business setting where it had FAN to do with the business at hand.

Same reasons people gloat about,"their," football team. What those reasons are I don't have a clue.

Arfcom is the only place I've ever heard this retardation.
Normal people go about their lives and don't give two cumulative minutes of shit their entire lives over something that ended 160ish years ago.  Nobody I know or ever knew does this.

Until you come here. Its the people looking to make it an issue for some weird reason I have watched and could never understand. And its always been a constant thing here. And its always our southern members. It could have its own subforum.

Its worth the $2 a month to watch people "still fighting the War of Northern Aggression " stroke the fuck out like the OP over nothing but made up fantasy victimhood. Because if he never carried this imaginary chip on his shoulder,  and didn't bring it up, or actually went looking for a fight about it.........it wouldn't even be a thing. Nobody gives a shit.

Laughs in 30 round mag

Claims not to be typical Southerner who still talks about the civil war…put Yankee in thread title.

Awww fuck

Here we go again

I’ve never heard about it outside the classroom. And I’m long in the tooth.

Oh come on, those little red dots are huge!

Damn Skippy!  No pedos, no Yankees ??

Seriously though, the only northerners that often stink up the Commonwealth are NY & NJers and it's not about the War.

Just using the term “yankee” makes me think the OP is obsessed.

I pretty much only see it in response to southern whining about the Civil War.

I don’t really see it unless a southerner brings it up.  I think it’s more a function that they haven’t gotten over losing and still believe they’re part of the confederacy.

Don't you mean southerners, OP? Every time there's any mention of the civil war on here is always the southern members who are the loudest.

It would seem to me Southerners lament “their" loss far more than Northerners brag about “their” victory.


We all make attachments to social constructs- like being “proud” of where you’re born.   Be a thankful Texan, not a proud Texan if you want to be more logical

The answer is jealously

The north is a cold, desolate, soulless place filled woth ugly women.

Bubba/hick/redneck is used to describe rural people, not just southerners.  

99% of the regional hate posted on this site comes from southerners.  I see more anti-Kansas comments than anti-southern.

A lot of the democrats current con job works because the Confederacy obsessed play along. What they really should be doing was giving the party of the Klan the credit for the really bad stuff. Like the nuts under the Franklin Roosevelt administration that experimented on blacks and sterilized them. That doesn't even make sense in a 1860's Confederacy mindset. Instead trolling is the main concern and the Democrat party gets to have this act like they are clean, perfect, unvarnished puritan and every body else is most evil. The Democrats committed so many crimes, shouldn't they get to keep some credit for their actions?

lol

Northerners really don't think about the Civil War much. It's always southerners talking about it.

You damn yankees come down here and trash our beaches and fuck our thick hot ass girls. Just kidding.
I have no beef with Americans living north of the Mason dixon line. Southerners who live at the gulf coast believe any one north of Interstate 10 is a fucking Yankee.

I grew up in the North but moved to Virginia to see what we won in the war. ??

Southerners bitching about Yankees gloating about the Civil War seems far more common than Yankees gloating about the Civil War.

the only people i've ever heard even mention the civil war are southerners like the OP here on arfcom.

Yup.  I live very close to where Washington crossed the Delaware, they do a re-enactment each year and people cross in boats, I think they do it on both the 4th of July and Christmas.  

Valley Forge is close too, quite a bit of cool history in the area.

Gettysburg is a few hours away and nobody talks much about it other than factually stating it’s a shame so many people died there.  I think most don’t consider a side won or lost the war in a traditional sense of winning or losing because regardless the outcome so many men died.

All of my family came to the US after CW so nobody talks about it.  Most of them served in WW2 so you did hear quite a bit of those stories especially Operation Iceberg.

When people say "Yankee" about anything, it confirms they are backwards and potentially retarded.  No different than someone who believes they deserve reparations from slavery.

I have lived all over the US and the only place that talks about the Civil War is the south, often within minutes of conversation.  I live minutes away from Revolutionary War Battlefields and have never mentioned them to anyone, ever.  Neither are part of my identity.

Where are you from again?

Sherman left a bad taste in our mouths. He brought the war right to our front pourches.
The famous Arlington house in Birmingham, Al was spared being burn down. Because Arlington was a northern sympathizer. The Arlington house stands today and sill intact and even has all the original antebellum furniture inside.

Hollywood uses that fake southern accent to represent all rural folks.  Nothing like watching a show and hearing “Nebraskans” talk like they are from Texas or Alabama.

LoL.   Are you super Old?

Today’s FL has been annexed by the South.   Haiti, PR, DR, Guatemala, Honduras, Columbia, Cuba, Venezuela, Portugal, Brazil, etc, etc, etc.   I apologize if I left some countries/cultures out, it’s impossible to list them all.   Seriously, you have No Idea.    

That's because you want the audience to understand them.

If people only knew that Civil War was the cause of federal government trying to overturn states' rights...in which one of the main reasons was slavery. Much like how the federal government is levying to businesses that the vaccine should be mandatory? We are all not so different on here by that much of a degree in that government should not tell individuals, much less states what to do. Am I right? If I am wrong, then go out and get that booster shot cause lord Fauchi told us to...

we arent afraid of the cold.

BORN IN FL