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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:35:52 PM EST
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I didn't know this was a thing until I went to Advanced Camp for ROTC. Keep in mind that I had already gone through basic and AIT at Benning.
VMI grad gave me shit about me being a Yankee and all that shit. I thought he was kidding. No. Southerners bring it up wayyyyyyyyyy more than Northerners. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:36:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:the only people i've ever heard even mention the civil war are southerners like the OP here on arfcom. Any Britishers here? Do you complain about losing the Revolutionary War? 
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:37:36 PM EST
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Only time i ever bring it up is when hilljacks in Northern Michigan fly a Confederate flag
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:47:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When people say "Yankee" about anything, it confirms they are backwards and potentially retarded. No different than someone who believes they deserve reparations from slavery. I have lived all over the US and the only place that talks about the Civil War is the south, often within minutes of conversation. I live minutes away from Revolutionary War Battlefields and have never mentioned them to anyone, ever. Neither are part of my identity. 
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:49:19 PM EST
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Comical people blame the north for winning the war and all the problems we have with back folks now.
Yet where were all these black folks dumped off when they were delivered in the US. Southern states. That's where. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:49:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If people only knew that Civil War was the cause of federal government trying to overturn states' rights...in which one of the main reasons was slavery. Much like how the federal government is levying to businesses that the vaccine should be mandatory? We are all not so different on here by that much of a degree in that government should not tell individuals, much less states what to do. Am I right? If I am wrong, then go out and get that booster shot cause lord Fauchi told us to...  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:51:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a huge anti-Southern bias in the country, more so now than ever before. I can see being defensive. Bubba/hick/redneck etc. Although I read in Newsweek years ago (complete with graph), marrying cousins was more predominate in the north. I read something that stated PA and NY had the most in-breads, something else that West VA and the South get falsely lumped into. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:57:59 PM EST
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:58:57 PM EST
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It’s all they’ve got going for them. Let them enjoy.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 6:12:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And why do blacks still bitch about slavery? Because they still have the Democrats as their masters……same as in 1861 |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 6:15:13 PM EST
[#11]
In England we are all yanks.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 6:17:02 PM EST
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Yankees are proud of many things they did not accomplish.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 6:20:20 PM EST
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My relatives came to the USA right before WWI & settled in PA coal country.
While my ancestors had grade school education & worked in mines, they had little knowledge and no participation in the US civil war. Yankees? Yes. No dog in the fight known as Civil War. When children have to quit school in 3rd grade to work—that’s pretty damn close to slavery—so when people ask about “reparations….” |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 6:25:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Comical people blame the north for winning the war and all the problems we have with back folks now. Yet where were all these black folks dumped off when they were delivered in the US. Southern states. That's where. The north had plenty of slaves, of course not in the numbers of the south, until they didn’t need them anymore. They supposedly got some sort of morality….. what they did was figure out a whole new type of slavery. The whole problem is what was done after the war ended. There was not real plan and typical of the history of America and it’s wars….. win and fuck up the end game. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 6:37:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We should be more focused on the War against Freedom and Liberty by the libs in the NOW! This is the damn truth Boyz and girls! The good news is if we have to preserve the union again it's not gonna take 5 years and 600000 dead. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 6:41:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If course. Slavery, apartheid, Jim Crow were never sustainable in a modern society. Even if the Civil War had not been fought slavery would have ended. It just would have ended slightly later than it did. But there is no way we would still have slavery today in the form that it existed then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: None of that matters to the side that loses. The winner will always paint themselves as the righteous victor. That is the way it has been throughout all of history. In my example, we'd go down in history as the vanquished deplorable evil white bigots. If course. Slavery, apartheid, Jim Crow were never sustainable in a modern society. Even if the Civil War had not been fought slavery would have ended. It just would have ended slightly later than it did. But there is no way we would still have slavery today in the form that it existed then. I love this one. At best, it would have ended in the "Confederacy" like it ended in Haiti. At best. Slavery was enshrined in their Constitution and more critical to the wealth of the ruling classes than land itself. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 6:52:18 PM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEvBCnHPM4Y The new Ar-15.com Theme Song.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:07:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm... maybe Jim Crow and Segregation had something to do with it. Stereotypes exist based on real evidence right? That's what I hear constantly. LOL, yeah, because the North was just so tolerant and loving, uh? Freedom of Association is American as Apple Pie, the Constitution, and Secession itself. If you do not want people in your community who are going to...Oh, I dont know, say vote to fuck it up, the people living there have a right to exclude them and defend their community from harm. Deal with it. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:11:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any Britishers here? Do you complain about losing the Revolutionary War? https://images.creativemarket.com/0.1.0/ps/1822915/6793/3682/m1/fpnw/wm1/british-flag-.jpg?1477811604&s=392fc272ec4e558e1e9f3b7dea190f2f |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:12:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Among all the purse swinging in this thread, this gem appears. The South gave the Union all the reason it wanted and needed to create the Federal monster that it now is. Thanks, lincoln. 160 years later we are truly feeling it, and its only just beginning. You should have picked your own cotton. Now we ALL have to pick up that can. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because the War Of Northern Aggression was the cancer that caused the slow and painful death of federalism and brought us to where we are today. NOW all of a sudden people are recognizing that states rights actually mean something, oddly its the southern states leading the way... again. This. Among all the purse swinging in this thread, this gem appears. The South gave the Union all the reason it wanted and needed to create the Federal monster that it now is. Thanks, lincoln. 160 years later we are truly feeling it, and its only just beginning. You should have picked your own cotton. Now we ALL have to pick up that can. The growth of the federal monster had been a Democrat project from the beginning, dating back to Jackson's Constitutionally dubious Indian Removal Act. Jackson was outwardly hostile to the growing abolitionist movement in norther states. His protege, Polk, would drag the U.S. into war with Mexico under very flimsy pretenses. Alas, it allowed for an expansion of slavery westward. How convenient. A chief complaint of the seceding states had been that the federal government did not do enough to crack down in rogue anti-slave states who were harboring escaped slave or harassing slaveowners who wanted to travel there with their "property." As such the CSA Constitution made a point of preventing its win states from ever doing such a thing. Finally, with the possible exception of Roosevelt, every major expansion federal power would happen under a Democrat for the next 100 years, Democrats who were supported vigorously throughout the South, especially Wilson, FDR, and Johnson. They all represent a direct ideological lineage to the Confederacy, with Wilson being a particularly staunch "lost cause" advocate. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:13:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yankees are proud of many things they did not accomplish. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:13:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't know this was a thing until I went to Advanced Camp for ROTC. Keep in mind that I had already gone through basic and AIT at Benning. VMI grad gave me shit about me being a Yankee and all that shit. I thought he was kidding. No. Southerners bring it up wayyyyyyyyyy more than Northerners. Wow. You made it that far along?. I hadn't even left reception before getting it with all barrels. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:15:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, yeah, because the North was just so tolerant and loving, uh? Freedom of Association is American as Apple Pie, the Constitution, and Secession itself. If you do not want people in your community who are going to...Oh, I dont know, say vote to fuck it up, the people living there have a right to exclude them and defend their community from harm. Deal with it. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:17:56 PM EST
[#24]
I remember now....The Black hats wouldnt leave.
 Gettysburg (1993) ~First Day (part three) |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:25:38 PM EST
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Quoted: From people that have no connection with it. Is it a reflection of their personal values? Do they think it projects some kind of guilt? Is it the only think that make their life somehow less pitiful? Discuss. Wrong question. You should be asking why the losers got an ass-whooping and still didn't learn a darn thing, insist on re-writing history, and can't wait to do it again. The only people who ever bring it up are the losers. In the North, we moved on a long, long time ago. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:28:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That they were... they had the economic sense, wherewithal, and education to develop new economic markets to make a buck. The old landed gentry of the South took offense that someone with better economic abilities overtook them and replaced their outdated ideals. Was that before or after they used their conscripted and often imported troops to murder, burn, loot, and subjugate those who refused to prostrate themselves for the North and decided to go their own way? Very easy to rig a game when you spreg out, flip the table over, shoot the honest players, steal their money, and rewrite history to try and make yourselves the heroes, uh? The took offense to their land being stolen, their voices, votes, rights being stripped away in the name of open lies and naked greed. Remember this one thing pal, Freedom was the main victim in the civil war, OK? So the next time you get upset at the Federal leviathan undermine our rights, just remember it was people like you who cheered on the creation of this monsters because "Southern Man Bad", ok? People like you traded the reality of Freedom for the death spiral of the lie of equality. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:33:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you're claiming that Northerners are automatically Leftist, but never been to the rural conservative parts of those states, and claim that it is Northerners who gloat about the Civil War, when they don't even bring it up, yet it is Southerners that constantly do. I take it you're from East Texas, right? Yankees are Leftists "I can recall once trying to explain who was a Yankee to a lady from Illinois. When I got through, she said “You are talking about a control freak.” She was right. That’s what a Yankee is. He or she wants to totally control what you think, how you live, what you are allowed to believe, what you are supposed to not believe, what you can or can’t do with your own property, etc. You get the message, I hope. If not you just ain’t been paying attention." Might want to read up on them. More over Northerners are not all Yankees, that is like saying a Elk, Moose, and Deer are all the same merely because they have 4 legs. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:34:22 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that before or after they used their conscripted and often imported troops to murder, burn, loot, and subjugate those who refused to prostrate themselves for the North and decided to go their own way? Very easy to rig a game when you spreg out, flip the table over, shoot the honest players, steal their money, and rewrite history to try and make yourselves the heroes, uh? The took offense to their land being stolen, their voices, votes, rights being stripped away in the name of open lies and naked greed. Remember this one thing pal, Freedom was the main victim in the civil war, OK? So the next time you get upset at the Federal leviathan undermine our rights, just remember it was people like you who cheered on the creation of this monsters because "Southern Man Bad", ok? People like you traded the reality of Freedom for the death spiral of the lie of equality. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That they were... they had the economic sense, wherewithal, and education to develop new economic markets to make a buck. The old landed gentry of the South took offense that someone with better economic abilities overtook them and replaced their outdated ideals. Was that before or after they used their conscripted and often imported troops to murder, burn, loot, and subjugate those who refused to prostrate themselves for the North and decided to go their own way? Very easy to rig a game when you spreg out, flip the table over, shoot the honest players, steal their money, and rewrite history to try and make yourselves the heroes, uh? The took offense to their land being stolen, their voices, votes, rights being stripped away in the name of open lies and naked greed. Remember this one thing pal, Freedom was the main victim in the civil war, OK? So the next time you get upset at the Federal leviathan undermine our rights, just remember it was people like you who cheered on the creation of this monsters because "Southern Man Bad", ok? People like you traded the reality of Freedom for the death spiral of the lie of equality. Southern state politics did not start becoming hostile to expanding federal power until the Civil Rights era, when suddenly Southern politicians wanted to become Republican, the party which had consistently advocate federalism and resisted expanding federal power since its inception. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:35:10 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that before or after they used their conscripted and often imported troops to murder, burn, loot, and subjugate those who refused to prostrate themselves for the North and decided to go their own way? Very easy to rig a game when you spreg out, flip the table over, shoot the honest players, steal their money, and rewrite history to try and make yourselves the heroes, uh? The took offense to their land being stolen, their voices, votes, rights being stripped away in the name of open lies and naked greed. Remember this one thing pal, Freedom was the main victim in the civil war, OK? So the next time you get upset at the Federal leviathan undermine our rights, just remember it was people like you who cheered on the creation of this monsters because "Southern Man Bad", ok? People like you traded the reality of Freedom for the death spiral of the lie of equality. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:36:05 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have NEVER heard a Northerner bring up the Civil War. It's always the Johnny Rebs. The fuck are you talking about, leftists are always talking about "Burning down South Again" or "Muh we will Finish what Lincoln started" and always gloat about the supremacy of the Federal Government after that massive act of treason that SOB committed. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:36:33 PM EST
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:47:19 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have a source for this claim? Lot of southerners live and talk about this in Washington state? dude. https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/lost-cause-the/ https://scv.org/ https://hqudc.org/ I've been on the board a while and I've seen hundreds of threads with southerners making claims right out of The Lost Cause myth. I see rebel flags all the time here in Texas. Usually on the window or bumper of a bro-dozer. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:52:54 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Southern state politics did not start becoming hostile to expanding federal power until the Civil Rights era, when suddenly Southern politicians wanted to become Republican, the party which had consistently advocate federalism and resisted expanding federal power since its inception. LOL, yeah, ignore what I say pal. Lets ignore the Centralization of power after your beloved war against the states came its is close, right? Never that those federal powers used "muh Civil Rights" as an excuse to undermine the very real freedoms of the American people, just like "Muh Slavery" was the excuse to infringed upon the rights of the states/people 100 years before that, uh? Yeah, they changed parties, the Dems thought they could create a welfare voter class, import every manner of 3rd worlder via the Immigration Act of 1965, and they would have all the White Working/Middle Class paying for their own dispossession and they would ride to power for good. Well they guessed wrong. Yeah, down side of the two party system, You either have Option A. Vote for one of the two parties, or Option B politics by other means. Yeah, its not a good place to be, and frankly if we can not retake the GOP and remake it in what it should be, we will scuttle it and make something else, that assumes we even bother to play by a ever increasingly rigged system, and take our states, our countries and go our own way. After all, Leftists love to say "Blank isn`t a Suicide Pact", and for once, they are right....I mean them being right on something was bound to happen given enough time. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 7:57:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They left the Union and were a conquered people that legitimately lost the war. They're fucking lucky that Reconstruction didn't go as originally planned. They got off lucky. Southern Landed Gentry wanted to establish themselves as the Neo-Nobility in their new nation. Well, they lost the war and to the winners goes the spoils. Honestly, the South was treated with kids gloves. Oh...How was Reconstruction originally planned? Uh? Let me guess, taking away more property of people, politically dispossession, preventing them from having any say in their lives, how they are governed, right? Yeah, totally not justifying what they did before, and would go on to create a far large then the guerilla movement it spawned, right? Funny, what did the Carpetbaggers and Industrialists up North have in mind again? Not like they are a Neo Nobility of today and are running the nation into the ground/s. But hey, at long as we all equally fucked over and subjugated, right? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:04:41 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:In my example, we’d go down in history as the vanquished deplorable evil white bigots. Not hardly!  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:05:27 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't even care. After they lost us, they built the largest Empire in the world. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any Britishers here? Do you complain about losing the Revolutionary War? https://images.creativemarket.com/0.1.0/ps/1822915/6793/3682/m1/fpnw/wm1/british-flag-.jpg?1477811604&s=392fc272ec4e558e1e9f3b7dea190f2f Well now how’s that working out for them. The British sure seem to know how to loose their
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:07:15 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:Even if the Civil War had not been fought slavery would have ended. It just would have ended slightly later than it did. But there is no way we would still have slavery today in the form that it existed then.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:08:59 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this with the heavily armed electric scooter cavalry armed with CPAPs and Diabetes? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I gloat everytime I am uptown and see our 10 foot tall copper statue of a confederate soldier facing North, standing watch, musket by his side, haversack and bedroll just daring the Yankee vermin to try it again. It won't work out so well for you a second time.  |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:09:03 PM EST
[#39]
England…….Not only did we kick their ass….. we had to come back and save them twice!!!!
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:09:51 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:I was speaking in a generality. Southern generality or northern generality??  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:14:18 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The fuck are you talking about, leftists are always talking about "Burning down South Again" or "Muh we will Finish what Lincoln started" and always gloat about the supremacy of the Federal Government after that massive act of treason that SOB committed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have NEVER heard a Northerner bring up the Civil War. It's always the Johnny Rebs. The fuck are you talking about, leftists are always talking about "Burning down South Again" or "Muh we will Finish what Lincoln started" and always gloat about the supremacy of the Federal Government after that massive act of treason that SOB committed. Suppressing insurrection is the most basic function of a President. It is the polar opposite of treason. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:17:02 PM EST
[#42]
It's pretty easy to tell when people don't know or have a grasp on the timeliness and events during that period.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:17:16 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The South lost, the North won. Get the fuck over it! You were not born nor lived through it. Just fucking stop already. The South will not rise again and the Union is now in jeopardy by enemies within that care little for honor or freedom. They want us ALL DEAD! Blue and Gray, North and South! Shut the fuck up about slavery as well. We are all going to be slaves if we don't stay together and fight the REAL enemy! The south can't even keep their statues up. In several cases they took them down before the woke could even complain about it. So no, the "south" isn't going to rise again. It's going to go down the same shit hole as the rest of the country. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:17:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love this one. At best, it would have ended in the "Confederacy" like it ended in Haiti. At best. Slavery was enshrined in their Constitution and more critical to the wealth of the ruling classes than land itself. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: None of that matters to the side that loses. The winner will always paint themselves as the righteous victor. That is the way it has been throughout all of history. In my example, we'd go down in history as the vanquished deplorable evil white bigots. If course. Slavery, apartheid, Jim Crow were never sustainable in a modern society. Even if the Civil War had not been fought slavery would have ended. It just would have ended slightly later than it did. But there is no way we would still have slavery today in the form that it existed then. I love this one. At best, it would have ended in the "Confederacy" like it ended in Haiti. At best. Slavery was enshrined in their Constitution and more critical to the wealth of the ruling classes than land itself. It’s crazy to believe we would still have slavery today. You must have slept through how “woke” the world has become. It simply would not have persisted. You cannot have “yeah we own slaves” and “it’s not PC to call that team the Redskins” at the same time. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:18:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s crazy to believe we would still have slavery today. You must have slept through how “woke” the world has become. It simply would not have persisted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: None of that matters to the side that loses. The winner will always paint themselves as the righteous victor. That is the way it has been throughout all of history. In my example, we'd go down in history as the vanquished deplorable evil white bigots. If course. Slavery, apartheid, Jim Crow were never sustainable in a modern society. Even if the Civil War had not been fought slavery would have ended. It just would have ended slightly later than it did. But there is no way we would still have slavery today in the form that it existed then. I love this one. At best, it would have ended in the "Confederacy" like it ended in Haiti. At best. Slavery was enshrined in their Constitution and more critical to the wealth of the ruling classes than land itself. It’s crazy to believe we would still have slavery today. You must have slept through how “woke” the world has become. It simply would not have persisted. OK. How would it have ended? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:19:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spoken from the safety of a very northern state. So,hows that governor working out for you? Is that the limit of your critical thinking? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:20:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't even care. After they lost us, they built the largest Empire in the world. Hmmm….something here sounds familiar? 
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:20:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK. How would it have ended? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: None of that matters to the side that loses. The winner will always paint themselves as the righteous victor. That is the way it has been throughout all of history. In my example, we'd go down in history as the vanquished deplorable evil white bigots. If course. Slavery, apartheid, Jim Crow were never sustainable in a modern society. Even if the Civil War had not been fought slavery would have ended. It just would have ended slightly later than it did. But there is no way we would still have slavery today in the form that it existed then. I love this one. At best, it would have ended in the "Confederacy" like it ended in Haiti. At best. Slavery was enshrined in their Constitution and more critical to the wealth of the ruling classes than land itself. It’s crazy to believe we would still have slavery today. You must have slept through how “woke” the world has become. It simply would not have persisted. OK. How would it have ended? Presumably in the same way women got the right to vote. As a society we advance in such things with time. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:22:27 PM EST
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Hell, we might be related. Same exact circumstances for my Dad’s side.
Quote HistoryQuoted: My relatives came to the USA right before WWI & settled in PA coal country. While my ancestors had grade school education & worked in mines, they had little knowledge and no participation in the US civil war. Yankees? Yes. No dog in the fight known as Civil War. When children have to quit school in 3rd grade to work—that’s pretty damn close to slavery—so when people ask about “reparations….” |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:22:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Southern state politics did not start becoming hostile to expanding federal power until the Civil Rights era, when suddenly Southern politicians wanted to become Republican, the party which had consistently advocate federalism and resisted expanding federal power since its inception.  Attached File |
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